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EU referendum live: David Cameron and Nigel Farage grilled by Buzzfeed readers EU referendum live: David Cameron and Nigel Farage grilled by Buzzfeed readers
(35 minutes later)
5.39pm BST
17:39
Cameron is winding up now.
He says people should use the referendum to reject Nigel Farage’s view of Britain.
5.37pm BST
17:37
Q: If there is a Brexit, will you have Boris Johnson in your cabinet?
Cameron says he wants to bring people together after the referendum. He says he wants his strongest players in the team. Johnson was a good mayor.
Q; Do you stay up at night worrying about this?
Cameron says he is very concerned about this, because it is more important than an election.
Q: Could you lose?
Cameron says there is nothing to compare it with. It is “very competitive” out there.
In an election, when people say they are undecided, that normally means they won’t vote for you. But in this contest people are genuinely undecided.
5.33pm BST
17:33
Q: How is the Conservative party going to come back together after this?
Camerons says it has been a passionate debate. But they all agree that it is right to hold a referendum, and to obey the instructions afterwards.
He thinks that will happen, he says.
Q: Some MPs have said if there is a vote to leave, they will try to block that.
Cameron says he does not accept that. Parliament should accept the will of the people.
Q: How do you feel about the insults directed at Boris Johnson?
Cameron says these debates get lively. He wants to focus on the argument.
Q: Why won’t you debate Johnson?
Cameron says he does not want this to be the Dave v Boris show.
And he likes doing town hall meetings like this, engaging with people directly.
5.29pm BST
17:29
Q: This government discriminates against non-EU migrants.
Cameron says he does not accept that.
5.28pm BST
17:28
Q: Given we have been members of the EU for 40 years, why is there so little affection for it?
Cameron says our history is different. We have never been invaded. People have a practical view of it, not a national view.
Other Europeans have a more emotional view of it, because they have had a history of invasion.
He says, as Churchill says, we may not be of Europe but we are with Europe.
5.26pm BST
17:26
Q: I’m an Indian national working in the NHS. I have to spent a lot of money in visas fees proving I can be here. Yet EU citizens can come in without proving anything. That makes me feel I am not valued.
Cameron says the single market means Britons can go and work in the EU, as well as enabling EU citizens to come here. The rules are different, he accepts. But he says having a single market is good for Britain and British people.
5.24pm BST
17:24
Q: How would an increase in the minimum wage increase immigration?
Cameron says increasing the minimum wage is a good thing to do. He says there are good ways to control immigration and bad ways. Over the last five years the UK created more jobs than the rest of the EU. But those EU economies are now growing.
5.22pm BST
17:22
Cameron says trade negotiations are not a love-in. We don’t sell any beef to the US, he says.
5.21pm BST
17:21
A young woman says she is voting Remain, even though she hates the Tories because they have “fucked everything up”, and “screwed the disabled, screwed the vulnerable”.
Cameron smiles. He says the nice thing about this referendum is that it is bringing people together who would never normally agree. The woman sees the funny side.
5.20pm BST
17:20
Q: How do you intend to tackle with immigration?
Cameron says people coming to the UK have to look for a job. If they can’t get a job, they have to go home. And if they stay, they don’t get full benefits for four years.
5.18pm BST
17:18
Cameron acknowledges that the UK buys more for the EU than it sells to it.
But 44% of our goods go to Europe, he says. Only 8% of their goods come here.
And although there is a deficit in goods, there is a surplus in services.
5.17pm BST
17:17
Q: You said you would cut immigration. And you said you would contemplate leaving the EU. Why should we listen to you now.
Cameron says he never wanted to leave the EU.
If he wanted an easier life, he would say the EU decision was a balanced one, but that he only just favoured staying.
But he does not think it is a balanced argument. He is arguing strongly for staying in because the case is so strong.
5.15pm BST
17:15
Cameron says if the UK is outside the single markets, tariffs will be imposed if it sells cars to Germany.
5.13pm BST
17:13
Q: If the case for staying in is so strong, why are the polls so close?
Cameron says people should ignore the polls. In the 2015 election people saw how focusing on the polls during the campaign gave a false impression.
5.12pm BST
17:12
David Cameron at BuzzFeed
Q: If leaving the EU is going to be so bad, why did you give the people a vote?
David Cameron says it’s because he’s a democrat. He thought the people should decide.
5.04pm BST5.04pm BST
17:0417:04
Farage says Ukip not racist, but wrongly 'demonised by establishment' for its EU stanceFarage says Ukip not racist, but wrongly 'demonised by establishment' for its EU stance
Here is the line from Nigel Farage where he claimed that Ukip had never been racist or homophobic, but that it had been “demonised” by the media because it was defying conventional wisdom. Farage said:Here is the line from Nigel Farage where he claimed that Ukip had never been racist or homophobic, but that it had been “demonised” by the media because it was defying conventional wisdom. Farage said:
When I first appeared on Question Time on the BBC back in 2000 I was the first person in 20 years on Question Time that had said I thought we should leave the European Union. So what I am guilty of is making Europe a big issue in British politics, and I’m guilty of forcing Mr Cameron into holding this referendum.When I first appeared on Question Time on the BBC back in 2000 I was the first person in 20 years on Question Time that had said I thought we should leave the European Union. So what I am guilty of is making Europe a big issue in British politics, and I’m guilty of forcing Mr Cameron into holding this referendum.
In life, if you challenge the establishment, whether it’s in business, whether it’s in science, whether it’s in politics, if you take on a consensus view, they will abuse you. And what happened to me in 2014 was our party started to rise in the polls, and the establishment got terrified. ‘Crikey, these awful Ukip people might win the European elections.’ There was a quite deliberate attempt to paint out Euroscepticism, me and my supporters, as being racist, homophobic, anti-foreigner - none of it, absolutely none of it, was ever true ...In life, if you challenge the establishment, whether it’s in business, whether it’s in science, whether it’s in politics, if you take on a consensus view, they will abuse you. And what happened to me in 2014 was our party started to rise in the polls, and the establishment got terrified. ‘Crikey, these awful Ukip people might win the European elections.’ There was a quite deliberate attempt to paint out Euroscepticism, me and my supporters, as being racist, homophobic, anti-foreigner - none of it, absolutely none of it, was ever true ...
We’ve been demonised by a media, by an establishment, scared of a different argument.We’ve been demonised by a media, by an establishment, scared of a different argument.
When it was put to him that there was a long list of Ukip members who have said unacceptable things, he said these were people who had gone online after having “one too many” in the pub.When it was put to him that there was a long list of Ukip members who have said unacceptable things, he said these were people who had gone online after having “one too many” in the pub.
We had Ukip people who, coming back from the pub, after one too many, said stupid or at times abusive or abrasive things. At the same over 200 councillors from the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats were actually arrested or imprisoned for crimines including rape, paedophilia, even planting bombs in North Wales.We had Ukip people who, coming back from the pub, after one too many, said stupid or at times abusive or abrasive things. At the same over 200 councillors from the Conservatives, Labour and the Liberal Democrats were actually arrested or imprisoned for crimines including rape, paedophilia, even planting bombs in North Wales.
Farage also claimed that Ukip’s record on dealing with problems like antisemitism was better than Labour’s.Farage also claimed that Ukip’s record on dealing with problems like antisemitism was better than Labour’s.
4.48pm BST4.48pm BST
16:4816:48
Farage has finished.Farage has finished.
The online response was 70% liking him, 25% not liking him. But in the studio only 45% of the audience liked him, and 55% did not like him.The online response was 70% liking him, 25% not liking him. But in the studio only 45% of the audience liked him, and 55% did not like him.
4.47pm BST
16:47
Q: If it is a vote to remain, will you quit politics?
Farage says he will go out and get hammered, and then think about it the following day.
4.46pm BST
16:46
A member of the audience wearing a headscarf says she never expected to agree with a word he said, but thinks he has been giving straight answers to questions. But, with regard to sex attacks, it is not just an issue to do with immigrants, she says.
Farage says he wants a points-based immigration system.
4.45pm BST
16:45
Q: Can you explain your Sunday Telegraph comments about Cologne-style sex attacks?
Farage says he was asked if this could be the nuclear bomb in the campaign. He said it could be. That was it.
4.43pm BST
16:43
Q: How do you feel to have lost the title for running the most xenophobic campaign to Zac Goldsmith?
Farage says he has been demonised. He has never been a racist or xenophobic.
Q: Do you think Goldsmith’s campaign was racist?
Farage says he did not think it was the best campaign he could have run.
4.42pm BST
16:42
Farage says he went to the European parliament thinking the UK was “a square peg in a round hole”. He was happy to accept the EU, if other European countries wanted that, as long as the EU was not involved.
But the votes on the European constitution showed how the EU was willing to override the will of the people. At that point he decided the whole project was flawed.
4.40pm BST
16:40
Q: Would you push for a second referendum if Remain win narrowly?
Farage says it was hard enough to get the first one.
He says many people in the Tory party will be irreconcilable if there is a Remain vote.
But Farage says he thinks parliament would not vote for a second referendum.
He says what Stephen Kinnock, the Labour MP, said on the Today programme this week about MPs trying to ignore the results of the referendum (by using the withdrawal legislation to keep the UK in the single market) would be outrageous.
He says the Labour vote is key to the result of the referendum.
4.35pm BST
16:35
Q: How will we ensure women’s rights are protected if we leave?
Farage says he hears these arguments. But trust Britons a bit more. We do not need to be given rights by Brussels. The first parliamentary Act on women’s rights was passed in 1911. And the Equal Pay Act was passed in 1970.
The UK has led the way on rights, he says. We are the country that believes in innocent until proven guilty, habeas corpus and trial by jury.
Q: You raised concerns about attacks on women.
I didn’t, says Farage.
Q: You did.
Farage says people should not just read the headline above his interview. This is an issue in some European countries.
UPDATE: This is from Britain Stronger in Europe.
But @Nigel_Farage you have previously suggested you and @vote_leave will get rid of worker's rights #StrongerIn #BFtownhall
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4.32pm BST
16:32
Farage says politicians talk about the single market as if it is a good thing. In fact, it is a “big cartel that suits multinationals”.
He says it is wrong to think the UK has big influence in the UK. Since 2010, there have been 40 occasions when Britain has lost in the council of ministers.
4.30pm BST
16:30
Q: If we leave the EU, how will students be able to go and study abroad?
Farage says Europe now seems a bit dull to students.
He says he hopes Brexit will lead to Denmark leaving the EU, Austria leaving the EU, Sweden leaving the EU, and eventually just a Europe of nation states.
4.28pm BST
16:28
Farage says the behaviour of universities in the referendum campaign has been “deplorable”. There are over 200 Monnet chairs. That means they get money from the EU.
He says we should be encouraging as many foreign students as possible to come to the UK to study here.