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Facebook leaders debate: Bill Shorten wins audience vote – politics live | Facebook leaders debate: Bill Shorten wins audience vote – politics live |
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Nighty night | |
I’ll let you all go to the pub now. Thanks so much for jumping on board, it’s been terrific. Mr Bowers and I will be back with you for another special edition of Politics Live on Sunday for Labor’s campaign launch from Penrith before rolling into the final fortnight. And don’t forget the live event in Melbourne next Tuesday night, would be great to see you there at the Malthouse. | |
Quick summary of this evening: | |
Have a great night and restful Saturday. See you Sunday. | |
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Here’s the audience verdict. | Here’s the audience verdict. |
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Every day I’m buffering. | Every day I’m buffering. |
Oh, the irony … Malcolm’s buffering as he talks up the #NBN #LeadersDebate pic.twitter.com/3TzOGSkhm6 | Oh, the irony … Malcolm’s buffering as he talks up the #NBN #LeadersDebate pic.twitter.com/3TzOGSkhm6 |
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Nothing says fight like a double handed grip. | Nothing says fight like a double handed grip. |
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Mr Consensus is awake, and wants a fight: my quick verdict | Mr Consensus is awake, and wants a fight: my quick verdict |
The first quick take was that was a good debate. The second is in every forum, the questions from voters indicate Labor is much more on the zeitgeist than the Coalition when it comes to the policy concerns of voters. That has been entirely consistent throughout the campaign. Labor’s agenda is the one that is resonant at this moment in Australia’s history. | The first quick take was that was a good debate. The second is in every forum, the questions from voters indicate Labor is much more on the zeitgeist than the Coalition when it comes to the policy concerns of voters. That has been entirely consistent throughout the campaign. Labor’s agenda is the one that is resonant at this moment in Australia’s history. |
But the field evidence also shows us that the polls have hardly moved over the past several weeks. People are not giving Labor an affirmative bounce for being in touch. | But the field evidence also shows us that the polls have hardly moved over the past several weeks. People are not giving Labor an affirmative bounce for being in touch. |
Which brings me to the main take out of tonight. We saw it this morning. We saw it again tonight. Bill Shorten has taken a decision to try and punch it up as we head into the final fortnight. He’s leaning in to the prime minister, and starting to demand a contest, a fight, a clash of values. | Which brings me to the main take out of tonight. We saw it this morning. We saw it again tonight. Bill Shorten has taken a decision to try and punch it up as we head into the final fortnight. He’s leaning in to the prime minister, and starting to demand a contest, a fight, a clash of values. |
The government’s objective is to keep this campaign as flat as possible, as tamped down, as reassuring, as dull as possible. The Coalition wants torpor not confrontation, because torpor guarantees a Coalition victory. Labor is evidently positioning to fight in the home stretch, which is interesting, because it’s against the grain for Shorten, who like consensus and commonality, not confrontation – it’s not his cadence. | The government’s objective is to keep this campaign as flat as possible, as tamped down, as reassuring, as dull as possible. The Coalition wants torpor not confrontation, because torpor guarantees a Coalition victory. Labor is evidently positioning to fight in the home stretch, which is interesting, because it’s against the grain for Shorten, who like consensus and commonality, not confrontation – it’s not his cadence. |
But in my view, fight is the only chance Labor has of getting the contest by the throat. Judging by the Labor leader’s performance tonight, that’s what he thinks too. It was a feisty performance from Shorten, a few left hooks, a couple of risks, some high visibility contrast with his opponent, some assertive negativity. | But in my view, fight is the only chance Labor has of getting the contest by the throat. Judging by the Labor leader’s performance tonight, that’s what he thinks too. It was a feisty performance from Shorten, a few left hooks, a couple of risks, some high visibility contrast with his opponent, some assertive negativity. |
But the prime minister didn’t stumble, didn’t take any wrong turns, he just followed the battle plan: keep it tight and tidy, stick with the messages, be reassuring, and all will be well on polling day. | But the prime minister didn’t stumble, didn’t take any wrong turns, he just followed the battle plan: keep it tight and tidy, stick with the messages, be reassuring, and all will be well on polling day. |
Let’s see how that all goes. | Let’s see how that all goes. |
Updated | Updated |
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Mike Bowers: all kinds of fabulous coming out of that room. | Mike Bowers: all kinds of fabulous coming out of that room. |
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Now they are over and out. | Now they are over and out. |
I’ll share some pictures and some thoughts very shortly. | I’ll share some pictures and some thoughts very shortly. |
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Bill Shorten crams in as much as possible. | Bill Shorten crams in as much as possible. |
I want to save Medicare. I want to make sure that every school is a great school properly resourced so kids get the best start in life. I want to make sure that working parents, especially working mums get relief from the cost of childcare. I want to make sure that our TAFE sector is revitalised. I want to lead a country which makes steel products and has a steel industry as well as a ship and sub-building industry I want to make sure we have innovations for infrastructure, public transport in our big cities to help improve productivity and relieve congestion, a national broadband network so that small businesses can compete in our region, I want to make sure people go to work and are paid properly including penalty rates and shift allowances. I want to make sure that in this country we generate sustainable jobs for the future, but on the basis of rigid budget discipline, and making sure we have a highly skilled workforce and making sure we have jobs for the future and we will do not by not having a corporate tax cut and by the way, vote for us, we will have a banking royal commission. | I want to save Medicare. I want to make sure that every school is a great school properly resourced so kids get the best start in life. I want to make sure that working parents, especially working mums get relief from the cost of childcare. I want to make sure that our TAFE sector is revitalised. I want to lead a country which makes steel products and has a steel industry as well as a ship and sub-building industry I want to make sure we have innovations for infrastructure, public transport in our big cities to help improve productivity and relieve congestion, a national broadband network so that small businesses can compete in our region, I want to make sure people go to work and are paid properly including penalty rates and shift allowances. I want to make sure that in this country we generate sustainable jobs for the future, but on the basis of rigid budget discipline, and making sure we have a highly skilled workforce and making sure we have jobs for the future and we will do not by not having a corporate tax cut and by the way, vote for us, we will have a banking royal commission. |
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Summations now in response to a question about vision. The prime minister delivers the stump speech, with this added burst of enthusiasm, or over reach, depending on your level of tolerance on a Friday night. | Summations now in response to a question about vision. The prime minister delivers the stump speech, with this added burst of enthusiasm, or over reach, depending on your level of tolerance on a Friday night. |
Malcolm Turnbull: | Malcolm Turnbull: |
What I’m doing is enabling the dreams of every Australian. | What I’m doing is enabling the dreams of every Australian. |
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Question ten is on parliamentary perks, pensions and the like. | Question ten is on parliamentary perks, pensions and the like. |
Malcolm Turnbull says an independent tribunal governs the system and the alternative is politicians police themselves. He says he’s the worst person to ask about entitlements because he didn’t come into politics to make more money. | Malcolm Turnbull says an independent tribunal governs the system and the alternative is politicians police themselves. He says he’s the worst person to ask about entitlements because he didn’t come into politics to make more money. |
Bill Shorten echoes the sentiment on the tribunal, but he inflects his point. He doesn’t understand why the Liberal party keeps freezing increases to everyone else’s superannuation. | Bill Shorten echoes the sentiment on the tribunal, but he inflects his point. He doesn’t understand why the Liberal party keeps freezing increases to everyone else’s superannuation. |
I’m committed to lifting the superannuation, but I’m the Labor guy and I want to see people do better. | I’m committed to lifting the superannuation, but I’m the Labor guy and I want to see people do better. |