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| Labour leadership debate: Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith in Cardiff – as it happened | Labour leadership debate: Jeremy Corbyn and Owen Smith in Cardiff – as it happened |
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| That’s all from tonight’s live coverage of the Labour leadership debate - thanks for reading. | That’s all from tonight’s live coverage of the Labour leadership debate - thanks for reading. |
| The next debate will be held in Gateshead on Thursday 11 August at 7pm. | The next debate will be held in Gateshead on Thursday 11 August at 7pm. |
| 8.59pm BST | 8.59pm BST |
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| Read Alice Ross’s full story on the first Labour leadership debate here: | Read Alice Ross’s full story on the first Labour leadership debate here: |
| 8.56pm BST | 8.56pm BST |
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| Jeremy Corbyn mentioned the inquiry into antisemitism carried out by Shami Chakrabarti, the human rights and civil liberties campaigner. He did not mention, however, that he had put her forward for a peerage. | Jeremy Corbyn mentioned the inquiry into antisemitism carried out by Shami Chakrabarti, the human rights and civil liberties campaigner. He did not mention, however, that he had put her forward for a peerage. |
| His decision has caused tensions at the top of the party, with several MPs criticising the leader’s decision to nominate her given the row over cronyism engulfing David Cameron and No 10. | His decision has caused tensions at the top of the party, with several MPs criticising the leader’s decision to nominate her given the row over cronyism engulfing David Cameron and No 10. |
| Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, said: “With just one Lords appointment, Corbyn has undermined criticism of Cameron’s list and the remaining credibility of his antisemitism inquiry.” | Wes Streeting, Labour MP for Ilford North, said: “With just one Lords appointment, Corbyn has undermined criticism of Cameron’s list and the remaining credibility of his antisemitism inquiry.” |
| Tom Watson, the Labour deputy leader, is understood not to have been consulted about the choice and believes the party should be boycotting the whole system. | Tom Watson, the Labour deputy leader, is understood not to have been consulted about the choice and believes the party should be boycotting the whole system. |
| 8.49pm BST | 8.49pm BST |
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| Huffington Post political editor Paul Waugh tweets: | Huffington Post political editor Paul Waugh tweets: |
| Smith's main pitch 'i will take us back to Government'Will Corbyn repeat that pledge? | Smith's main pitch 'i will take us back to Government'Will Corbyn repeat that pledge? |
| 8.43pm BST | 8.43pm BST |
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| That’s the end of the first Labour leadership debate. Only five more to go... | That’s the end of the first Labour leadership debate. Only five more to go... |
| 8.38pm BST | 8.38pm BST |
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| Jeremy Corbyn says Labour lost the last general election because it offered “austerity-lite” and abstaining on the welfare reform bill. | Jeremy Corbyn says Labour lost the last general election because it offered “austerity-lite” and abstaining on the welfare reform bill. |
| Party membership has gone up to 540,000 under his leadership - people are engaged in politics in a way they were not before. He ends with a call for “real social justice right across this country” to slightly more applause. | Party membership has gone up to 540,000 under his leadership - people are engaged in politics in a way they were not before. He ends with a call for “real social justice right across this country” to slightly more applause. |
| 8.35pm BST | 8.35pm BST |
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| Two-minute closing pitches now: | Two-minute closing pitches now: |
| Owen Smith says the country is in crisis that was compounded by the Brexit vote. Labour’s legacy is being wiped out and the party is divided. The answer is a powerful, strong opposition that is a government-in-waiting, he tells the Cardiff debate. | Owen Smith says the country is in crisis that was compounded by the Brexit vote. Labour’s legacy is being wiped out and the party is divided. The answer is a powerful, strong opposition that is a government-in-waiting, he tells the Cardiff debate. |
| Smith promises to deliver the most radical programme since the Labour administration of 1945. “I will take us back to government,” he ends on, to strong applause from the audience. | Smith promises to deliver the most radical programme since the Labour administration of 1945. “I will take us back to government,” he ends on, to strong applause from the audience. |
| 8.32pm BST | 8.32pm BST |
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| Final question is about how to re-engage voters in Wales. | Final question is about how to re-engage voters in Wales. |
| Corbyn mentions a number of concepts, including the EU funding that could be lost being replaced by Westminster. It’s also unacceptable that travelling from north to south Wales by a method other than cars is very difficult, he adds. | Corbyn mentions a number of concepts, including the EU funding that could be lost being replaced by Westminster. It’s also unacceptable that travelling from north to south Wales by a method other than cars is very difficult, he adds. |
| Smith starts by saying he wants a Labour government in power to work with the Labour “comrades” in Wales and would invest £10bn in infrastructure. “We need a Labour government at both ends of the M4.” | Smith starts by saying he wants a Labour government in power to work with the Labour “comrades” in Wales and would invest £10bn in infrastructure. “We need a Labour government at both ends of the M4.” |
| 8.28pm BST | 8.28pm BST |
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| Smith says legislation is needed to narrow the gender pay gap and outlaw discrimination: “To do that we need to be in government ... we’ve got to win, Jeremy.” | Smith says legislation is needed to narrow the gender pay gap and outlaw discrimination: “To do that we need to be in government ... we’ve got to win, Jeremy.” |
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| Welsh Labour MP Chris Elmore tweets: | Welsh Labour MP Chris Elmore tweets: |
| .@owensmith2016 says #Labour should be ashamed of anti semitism in the party. Jeremy supporter shouts 'why' - I'm shocked beyond words! | .@owensmith2016 says #Labour should be ashamed of anti semitism in the party. Jeremy supporter shouts 'why' - I'm shocked beyond words! |
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| A question – which could be the last – about female leadership of the Labour party. | A question – which could be the last – about female leadership of the Labour party. |
| Smith thinks 50% of the party’s MPs and shadow cabinet should be women. | Smith thinks 50% of the party’s MPs and shadow cabinet should be women. |
| Corbyn mentions all-women shortlists and driving down the gender pay gap as ways to promote women. His first shadow cabinet was majority female, he adds. | Corbyn mentions all-women shortlists and driving down the gender pay gap as ways to promote women. His first shadow cabinet was majority female, he adds. |
| Updated | Updated |
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| Huffington Post political editor Paul Waugh tweets: | Huffington Post political editor Paul Waugh tweets: |
| Shades of Kinnock/Militant speech there from Smith Ashamed that 'The Labour party, the Labour party,..accused of anti-semitism' | Shades of Kinnock/Militant speech there from Smith Ashamed that 'The Labour party, the Labour party,..accused of anti-semitism' |
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| Labour has been too slow to admit that the party has a problem with antisemitism – something it should be ashamed of, Smith says. “How has this happened?” he asks Corbyn. | Labour has been too slow to admit that the party has a problem with antisemitism – something it should be ashamed of, Smith says. “How has this happened?” he asks Corbyn. |
| Corbyn says many of the cases pre-date his leadership and wants Labour to be inclusive. Nineteen members have been suspended and rule changes are coming, he adds. | Corbyn says many of the cases pre-date his leadership and wants Labour to be inclusive. Nineteen members have been suspended and rule changes are coming, he adds. |
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| On to antisemitism, which Corbyn says has “no place in the Labour party”. | On to antisemitism, which Corbyn says has “no place in the Labour party”. |
| Smith says he would have “zero tolerance” – with no short-term suspensions. “They would be out.” | Smith says he would have “zero tolerance” – with no short-term suspensions. “They would be out.” |
| Corbyn says every case should be investigated: “That’s what we are doing.” | Corbyn says every case should be investigated: “That’s what we are doing.” |
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| Smith says we are an immigrant nation, which is something we “need to be proud of”. | Smith says we are an immigrant nation, which is something we “need to be proud of”. |
| He refuses to set targets for immigrations because we need migrants. | He refuses to set targets for immigrations because we need migrants. |
| Corbyn says non-European immigration is strictly controlled and that needs to be looked at. He adds that Smith is right about the need for migrant nurses in the NHS, for example. | Corbyn says non-European immigration is strictly controlled and that needs to be looked at. He adds that Smith is right about the need for migrant nurses in the NHS, for example. |
| There are 2 million British people in Europe who want to stay there and that should be remembered, the Labour leader notes. | There are 2 million British people in Europe who want to stay there and that should be remembered, the Labour leader notes. |