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| Clinton and Trump take questions from vets at Commander-in-Chief forum – live | Clinton and Trump take questions from vets at Commander-in-Chief forum – live |
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| 1.56am BST | |
| 01:56 | |
| That concludes NBC’s “Commander-in-Chief” forum aboard the Intrepid aircraft carrier. | |
| 1.53am BST | |
| 01:53 | |
| Donald Trump is asked by the father of a young woman who avoided joining the military over concerns about military sexual assault “what specifically would you do to support all victims of sexual assault in the military?” | |
| “We’re gonna have to run it very tight,” Trump says. “We have to come down very very hard on that and your daughter is absolutely right, it is a massive problem, but we have to do something about that problem.” | |
| Matt Lauer then quotes this tweet: | |
| 26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together? | |
| “This should have been expected?” Lauer asks incredulously. | |
| “Something has to be happening - part of the problem is nobody gets prosecuted,” Trump says. “When you have somebody that does something so evil, so bad as that, there has to be consequence for that person.” | |
| 1.50am BST | |
| 01:50 | |
| A Marine Corps aviation specialist who struggles with post-traumatic stress disorder asks Donald Trump what his plan will be to stop the suicide of 20 veterans a day. | |
| “Actually, it’s 22,” Trump says, drawing a shocked look from the questioner. “They need help, they need tremendous help, and we’re doing nothing for them.” | |
| “We are going to make it efficient and good and if it’s not good, you’re going out to private hospitals and doctors.” | |
| 1.47am BST | |
| 01:47 | |
| Donald Trump touts Vladimir Putin’s approval ratings and dismisses the invasion of Crimea. | |
| “Do you want me to start naming some of the things that President Obama does?” Trump says. “I think when he calls me brilliant I’m gonna take the compliment.” | |
| For the record, this never happened. | |
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| 01:43 | |
| Donald Trump is asked whether he would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the country if they serve in the armed forced. | |
| “I think that when you serve in the armed forced, that’s a very special situation, and I could see myself working that out, absolutely,” Trump says. “If they plan on serving I would absolutely hold those people - it would be a very special circumstance, thank you.” | |
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| 01:42 | |
| Matt Lauer asks Donald Trump if anything he’s learned in intelligence briefing make him “reconsider some of the things you say you can accomplish”. | |
| “What I did learn is that our leadership - Barack Obama - did not follow what our experts and our truly when they call it it intelligence, it’s there for a reason, what our experts said to do.” | |
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| 01:40 | |
| Asked about his proposed 30-day turnaround plan for “my generals” to come up with a plan to defeat Isis, Matt Lauer asks Trump whether “the plan you’ve been hiding this whole time asking someone else for their plan?” | |
| “I may love what the generals come back with,” Trump says. “I have a plan, but I don’t want to be - look, I have a very substantial chance of winning, make America great again.” | |
| “If I like their plan, Matt, I’m not gonna call you up and say, we have a great plan. This is what Obama does.” | |
| 1.38am BST | |
| 01:38 | |
| A retired Marine Corps captain asks Donald Trump about his “secret plan to defeat Isis,” and “what is your plan for the region” once Isis is defeated. | |
| “If you really look at the aftermath, Iran is going to be taking over Iraq. They’ve been doing it, and it’s not a pretty picture,” Trump says. “If we’re gonna get out, take the oil. If we would’ve taken the oil, you wouldn’t have Isis. Isis formed with the power and the wealth of that oil.” | |
| Asked how the US would go about “taking the oil,” Trump decries the loss of “the spoils” to the victors in conflicts. | |
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| Asked about his comments declaring that he knows “more about Isis than the generals do,” Donald Trump is defensive. | |
| “The generals under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not been successful,” Trump says. “The generals have been reduced to rubble - they have been reduced to a pint where it’s embarrassing for our country.” | |
| “We need change, Matt - we have to have it, and we have to have it fast.” | |
| 1.34am BST | |
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| Donald Trump joins 'Commander-in-Chief' forum | |
| Following former secretary of state and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has joined Matt Lauer onboard the Intrepid to discuss national security, military issues and veterans affairs. | |
| Asked to avoid attacking Clinton, Trump tells Lauer that he will keep his attacks “to a minimum”. | |
| Asked about his personal and professional life experiences that prepare | |
| “I’ve built a great company, I’ve been all over the world, I’ve dealt with foreign countries. I’ve done very well, as an example, in dealing with China,” Trump says. | |
| “I think the main thing is that i have great judgment - I have good judgment,” Trump says. “I was totally against the war in Iraq... perhaps almost as bad was the way Barack Obama got out.” | |
| Trump defends his temperament and regretting inflammatory comments, telling Lauer that “when you say regret, yeah sure I regret, but in the meantime, I beat 16 people and here I am.” | |
| “If you saw what happened in Mexico the other day, where I went there,” Trump says, “if you look at what happened, look at the aftermath today, people that arranged ther trip in Mexico have been forced out of government.” | |
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| Matt Lauer asks about fighting terrorist attacks in the United States either organized by or inspired by Isis. | |
| “I’m gonna do everything in my power to make sure that that’s the result,” Clinton says, but “I’m not going to promise something that I think most thinking Americans know will be a huge challenge.” | |
| Calling for an “intelligence surge,” Clinton tells Lauer that “we have to do a better job of not only collecting and analyzing the intelligence we do have but distributing it much more quickly.” | |
| “The last thing we need to do is to play into the hands of Isis. Going after American Muslims, defaming a Gold Star family... that is not going to help us in defeating Isis and protecting our homeland security.” | |
| With that, Clinton - who apparently violated her agreement to avoid criticizing Donald Trump - is done for the night. | |
| Next up: Trump himself. | |
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| Hillary Clinton, on fighting Isis: | Hillary Clinton, on fighting Isis: |
| We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again. | We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again. |
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| A Marine Corps sergeant and Arabic translator who is undecided asks Hillary Clinton whether she thinks the criticism of the Veterans Association have been “worse than they really are”. | A Marine Corps sergeant and Arabic translator who is undecided asks Hillary Clinton whether she thinks the criticism of the Veterans Association have been “worse than they really are”. |
| “I will not let the VA be privatized, and I do think there is an agenda out there supported by my opponent to do that. I think that would be very disastrous for our military veterans,” Clinton says, pledging to have a meeting every week in the Oval Office about the VA. | “I will not let the VA be privatized, and I do think there is an agenda out there supported by my opponent to do that. I think that would be very disastrous for our military veterans,” Clinton says, pledging to have a meeting every week in the Oval Office about the VA. |
| “We’re living in a technological world - you cannot tell me that you can’t do a better job getting that information.” | “We’re living in a technological world - you cannot tell me that you can’t do a better job getting that information.” |
| Asked by Matt Lauer about rates of veteran suicide, Clinton lays the blame on overprescription of opioids, sexual assault and one-size-fits-all mental health treatment that ignores specific needs. | Asked by Matt Lauer about rates of veteran suicide, Clinton lays the blame on overprescription of opioids, sexual assault and one-size-fits-all mental health treatment that ignores specific needs. |
| “This month is Suicide Prevention Awareness month,” Clinton says. “I rolled out my mental health agenda last week, and I have a whole section devoted to veteran’s mental health. We’ve got to remove the stigma, we’ve got to help people currently serving” to feel safe to vocalize symptoms of depression, and “help our veterans reenter civilian life and live full productive lives.” | “This month is Suicide Prevention Awareness month,” Clinton says. “I rolled out my mental health agenda last week, and I have a whole section devoted to veteran’s mental health. We’ve got to remove the stigma, we’ve got to help people currently serving” to feel safe to vocalize symptoms of depression, and “help our veterans reenter civilian life and live full productive lives.” |
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| The next question comes from a former intelligence analyst for the Air Force, a Democrat who asks Hillary Clinton how she responds to questions about whether her “hawkish” foreign policy will continue. | The next question comes from a former intelligence analyst for the Air Force, a Democrat who asks Hillary Clinton how she responds to questions about whether her “hawkish” foreign policy will continue. |
| “I assume you’re talking about Iraq, because of my vote, and you probably are talking about Libya, because of the role that I played in the administration’s decision about whether to take on Qaddafi,” Clinton responds. | “I assume you’re talking about Iraq, because of my vote, and you probably are talking about Libya, because of the role that I played in the administration’s decision about whether to take on Qaddafi,” Clinton responds. |
| “I view force as a last resort, not a first choice,” Clinton says. “I will also be as careful as I can in making the most significant decisions any president and commander-in-chief can make about sending our men and women into harm’s way.” | “I view force as a last resort, not a first choice,” Clinton says. “I will also be as careful as I can in making the most significant decisions any president and commander-in-chief can make about sending our men and women into harm’s way.” |
| “Taking that action was the right decision,” Clinton says, of her advocacy for intervention in Libya. “Not taking it and permitting there to be an ongoing civil war in Libya would have been as dangerous and threatening as what we are seeing in Syria.” | “Taking that action was the right decision,” Clinton says, of her advocacy for intervention in Libya. “Not taking it and permitting there to be an ongoing civil war in Libya would have been as dangerous and threatening as what we are seeing in Syria.” |