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Clinton and Trump take questions from vets at Commander-in-Chief forum – live Clinton and Trump take questions from vets at Commander-in-Chief forum – live
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That concludes NBC’s “Commander-in-Chief” forum aboard the Intrepid aircraft carrier.
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Donald Trump is asked by the father of a young woman who avoided joining the military over concerns about military sexual assault “what specifically would you do to support all victims of sexual assault in the military?”
“We’re gonna have to run it very tight,” Trump says. “We have to come down very very hard on that and your daughter is absolutely right, it is a massive problem, but we have to do something about that problem.”
Matt Lauer then quotes this tweet:
26,000 unreported sexual assults in the military-only 238 convictions. What did these geniuses expect when they put men & women together?
“This should have been expected?” Lauer asks incredulously.
“Something has to be happening - part of the problem is nobody gets prosecuted,” Trump says. “When you have somebody that does something so evil, so bad as that, there has to be consequence for that person.”
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01:50
A Marine Corps aviation specialist who struggles with post-traumatic stress disorder asks Donald Trump what his plan will be to stop the suicide of 20 veterans a day.
“Actually, it’s 22,” Trump says, drawing a shocked look from the questioner. “They need help, they need tremendous help, and we’re doing nothing for them.”
“We are going to make it efficient and good and if it’s not good, you’re going out to private hospitals and doctors.”
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01:47
Donald Trump touts Vladimir Putin’s approval ratings and dismisses the invasion of Crimea.
“Do you want me to start naming some of the things that President Obama does?” Trump says. “I think when he calls me brilliant I’m gonna take the compliment.”
For the record, this never happened.
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01:43
Donald Trump is asked whether he would allow undocumented immigrants to remain in the country if they serve in the armed forced.
“I think that when you serve in the armed forced, that’s a very special situation, and I could see myself working that out, absolutely,” Trump says. “If they plan on serving I would absolutely hold those people - it would be a very special circumstance, thank you.”
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Matt Lauer asks Donald Trump if anything he’s learned in intelligence briefing make him “reconsider some of the things you say you can accomplish”.
“What I did learn is that our leadership - Barack Obama - did not follow what our experts and our truly when they call it it intelligence, it’s there for a reason, what our experts said to do.”
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01:40
Asked about his proposed 30-day turnaround plan for “my generals” to come up with a plan to defeat Isis, Matt Lauer asks Trump whether “the plan you’ve been hiding this whole time asking someone else for their plan?”
“I may love what the generals come back with,” Trump says. “I have a plan, but I don’t want to be - look, I have a very substantial chance of winning, make America great again.”
“If I like their plan, Matt, I’m not gonna call you up and say, we have a great plan. This is what Obama does.”
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01:38
A retired Marine Corps captain asks Donald Trump about his “secret plan to defeat Isis,” and “what is your plan for the region” once Isis is defeated.
“If you really look at the aftermath, Iran is going to be taking over Iraq. They’ve been doing it, and it’s not a pretty picture,” Trump says. “If we’re gonna get out, take the oil. If we would’ve taken the oil, you wouldn’t have Isis. Isis formed with the power and the wealth of that oil.”
Asked how the US would go about “taking the oil,” Trump decries the loss of “the spoils” to the victors in conflicts.
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Asked about his comments declaring that he knows “more about Isis than the generals do,” Donald Trump is defensive.
“The generals under Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton have not been successful,” Trump says. “The generals have been reduced to rubble - they have been reduced to a pint where it’s embarrassing for our country.”
“We need change, Matt - we have to have it, and we have to have it fast.”
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01:34
Donald Trump joins 'Commander-in-Chief' forum
Following former secretary of state and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has joined Matt Lauer onboard the Intrepid to discuss national security, military issues and veterans affairs.
Asked to avoid attacking Clinton, Trump tells Lauer that he will keep his attacks “to a minimum”.
Asked about his personal and professional life experiences that prepare
“I’ve built a great company, I’ve been all over the world, I’ve dealt with foreign countries. I’ve done very well, as an example, in dealing with China,” Trump says.
“I think the main thing is that i have great judgment - I have good judgment,” Trump says. “I was totally against the war in Iraq... perhaps almost as bad was the way Barack Obama got out.”
Trump defends his temperament and regretting inflammatory comments, telling Lauer that “when you say regret, yeah sure I regret, but in the meantime, I beat 16 people and here I am.”
“If you saw what happened in Mexico the other day, where I went there,” Trump says, “if you look at what happened, look at the aftermath today, people that arranged ther trip in Mexico have been forced out of government.”
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Matt Lauer asks about fighting terrorist attacks in the United States either organized by or inspired by Isis.
“I’m gonna do everything in my power to make sure that that’s the result,” Clinton says, but “I’m not going to promise something that I think most thinking Americans know will be a huge challenge.”
Calling for an “intelligence surge,” Clinton tells Lauer that “we have to do a better job of not only collecting and analyzing the intelligence we do have but distributing it much more quickly.”
“The last thing we need to do is to play into the hands of Isis. Going after American Muslims, defaming a Gold Star family... that is not going to help us in defeating Isis and protecting our homeland security.”
With that, Clinton - who apparently violated her agreement to avoid criticizing Donald Trump - is done for the night.
Next up: Trump himself.
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Hillary Clinton, on fighting Isis:Hillary Clinton, on fighting Isis:
We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again.We are not putting ground troops into Iraq ever again.
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A Marine Corps sergeant and Arabic translator who is undecided asks Hillary Clinton whether she thinks the criticism of the Veterans Association have been “worse than they really are”.A Marine Corps sergeant and Arabic translator who is undecided asks Hillary Clinton whether she thinks the criticism of the Veterans Association have been “worse than they really are”.
“I will not let the VA be privatized, and I do think there is an agenda out there supported by my opponent to do that. I think that would be very disastrous for our military veterans,” Clinton says, pledging to have a meeting every week in the Oval Office about the VA.“I will not let the VA be privatized, and I do think there is an agenda out there supported by my opponent to do that. I think that would be very disastrous for our military veterans,” Clinton says, pledging to have a meeting every week in the Oval Office about the VA.
“We’re living in a technological world - you cannot tell me that you can’t do a better job getting that information.”“We’re living in a technological world - you cannot tell me that you can’t do a better job getting that information.”
Asked by Matt Lauer about rates of veteran suicide, Clinton lays the blame on overprescription of opioids, sexual assault and one-size-fits-all mental health treatment that ignores specific needs.Asked by Matt Lauer about rates of veteran suicide, Clinton lays the blame on overprescription of opioids, sexual assault and one-size-fits-all mental health treatment that ignores specific needs.
“This month is Suicide Prevention Awareness month,” Clinton says. “I rolled out my mental health agenda last week, and I have a whole section devoted to veteran’s mental health. We’ve got to remove the stigma, we’ve got to help people currently serving” to feel safe to vocalize symptoms of depression, and “help our veterans reenter civilian life and live full productive lives.”“This month is Suicide Prevention Awareness month,” Clinton says. “I rolled out my mental health agenda last week, and I have a whole section devoted to veteran’s mental health. We’ve got to remove the stigma, we’ve got to help people currently serving” to feel safe to vocalize symptoms of depression, and “help our veterans reenter civilian life and live full productive lives.”
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The next question comes from a former intelligence analyst for the Air Force, a Democrat who asks Hillary Clinton how she responds to questions about whether her “hawkish” foreign policy will continue.The next question comes from a former intelligence analyst for the Air Force, a Democrat who asks Hillary Clinton how she responds to questions about whether her “hawkish” foreign policy will continue.
“I assume you’re talking about Iraq, because of my vote, and you probably are talking about Libya, because of the role that I played in the administration’s decision about whether to take on Qaddafi,” Clinton responds.“I assume you’re talking about Iraq, because of my vote, and you probably are talking about Libya, because of the role that I played in the administration’s decision about whether to take on Qaddafi,” Clinton responds.
“I view force as a last resort, not a first choice,” Clinton says. “I will also be as careful as I can in making the most significant decisions any president and commander-in-chief can make about sending our men and women into harm’s way.”“I view force as a last resort, not a first choice,” Clinton says. “I will also be as careful as I can in making the most significant decisions any president and commander-in-chief can make about sending our men and women into harm’s way.”
“Taking that action was the right decision,” Clinton says, of her advocacy for intervention in Libya. “Not taking it and permitting there to be an ongoing civil war in Libya would have been as dangerous and threatening as what we are seeing in Syria.”“Taking that action was the right decision,” Clinton says, of her advocacy for intervention in Libya. “Not taking it and permitting there to be an ongoing civil war in Libya would have been as dangerous and threatening as what we are seeing in Syria.”
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The first question from the audience comes from retired Air Force lieutenant John Lester, a Republican who asks Hillary Clinton how she expects “those who were entrusted with America’s most sensitive information... when you clearly corrupted our national security?”
“You know and I know classified material is designated, it is marked - there is a header so that there is no dispute at all so that what is being communicated... is marked classified,” Clinton says. “And what we have here is the use of an unclassified system by hundreds of people in our government to send information that was not marked.”
“I communicated about classified material on a wholly separate system. I took it very seriously,” Clinton continues. “When I traveled I went into one of those little tents... because we didn’t want there to be any potential for someone to have embedded a camera to try to see whatever it is that I was seeing.”
“I take it very seriously - always have, always will.”
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01:08
Hillary Clinton, speaking at NBC’s “Commander-in-Chief Forum” onboard the aircraft carrier Intrepid in New York City, tells anchor and host Matt Lauer and the US military veterans in attendance that the most important characteristic a commander-in-chief can possess is “steadiness”.
“Steadiness, an absolute rock steadiness, mixed with strength, to be able to make the hard decisions,” Clinton says. “These are not easy decisions - if they were, they wouldn’t get to the president in the first place.”
“What you want in a president, a commander-in-chief, is someone who listens, who evaluates what is being told to him or her, who is able to sort out the very difficult options being presented, and then makes the decision.”
When asked about judgment as it related to her use of private email servers during her tenure as secretary of state, Clinton admitted that she had made a mistake, but that it was not a disqualification from office.
“There is no evidence my system was hacked,” Clinton says.
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NBC 'Commander-in-Chief' candidate forum begins
Hosted on the Intrepid, a decommissioned aircraft carrier anchored on the shores of New York City, the forum will feature two half-hour interviews on national security and military issues with both major-party presidential candidates.
First up: Hillary Clinton.
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Ahead of NBC’s forum, Hillary Clinton’s campaign has released a new ad: “Nukes.”
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Ben Jacobs
Donald Trump pledged that his campaign could compete in New York as he accepted the presidential nomination of the state’s Conservative Party.
Trump pledged “we are going to play in New York - we’re not just doing this for fun” and boasted “upstate we are going to do so well.” In Trump’s view, “it’s always bad, never good when you lose your state and lose it badly.” Recent polls of New York have Trump losing by almost 20 points to Clinton, who represented the Empire State for eight years in the United States Senate.
Under New York’s unique election law, there is fusion voting which allows multiple political parties to nominate the same candidate and their votes to be counted cumulatively on election night.
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Any chance of this coming up tonight?
Donald Trump called Hillary Clinton “trigger happy and very unstable” during a speech earlier today in which he further outlined his military strategy. Speaking at the Union League in Philadelphia, Trump mocked Clinton’s foreign policy record, saying “sometimes it seemed like there wasn’t a country in the Middle East that Hillary Clinton didn’t want to invade, intervene in or topple”.
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In roughly an hour, Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump will appear on what NBC is billing as its “Commander-in-Chief” forum, a chance for both candidates to make their case - although not at the same time - that they are the candidate more prepared to handle military and veterans issues as president.
Here’s a quick rundown of the expected proceedings:
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Trump campaign manager: Timing of donation to Florida attorney general 'coincidence'
Kellyanne Conway tells @bpolitics the timing of Trump's Bondi contribution was a "coincidence" w/ Trump U. decision: pic.twitter.com/gOfQukMTaJ
11.49pm BST
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Joanna Walters
Barack Obama has taken the historic step of nominating the first Muslim candidate to become a federal judge.
The announcement comes just weeks after White House candidate Donald Trump made controversial remarks that it was “possible, absolutely” that Muslim judges could be biased against him. US judges who are Muslims have served at state level but never the echelons above – as appeals, federal or supreme court judges, according to Muslim Advocates, a national advocacy organization.
Abid Qureshi, a litigation and pro bono specialist practicing in Washington, was put forward on Tuesday night to serve on the federal judiciary at the US district court for the District of Columbia.
“I think it’s past time for an American Muslim to be nominated as a federal judge. I’m absolutely thrilled,” Farhana Khera, executive director of Muslim Advocates, told the Guardian on Wednesday.
Khera had lobbied both Obama, during a meeting at the White House in 2015, to nominate a Muslim to the federal bench, and Qureshi to apply, she said.
“A judiciary that reflects the rich diversity of our nation helps ensure the fair and just administration of the law, and it is vital for American Muslims to be included,” she added.
The selection of Qureshi, who was born in Pakistan and settled in the US as a young child, became the latest milestone in a significant increase in judicial diversity under Obama.
Since becoming president, Obama has led a push to nominate more women, African American, Latino, Asian American and openly gay judges.
Of Qureshi, Obama said: “I am confident he will serve the American people with integrity and a steadfast commitment to justice.”
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Donald Trump is pleased with Peter Thiel’s op-ed in the Washington Post:
Thank you Peter - if elected, I will think big for our country & never let the American people down! #AmericaFirst https://t.co/6Nwu7EMJ9d