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| VP debate pits Kaine and Pence against Trump's own words – campaign live | VP debate pits Kaine and Pence against Trump's own words – campaign live |
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| The presidential nominees continue to tout the performances at the debate Tuesday night of their running mates. | |
| Jumping on her plane, Clinton gives Tim Kaine two thumbs up, Bloomberg reports: | |
| How did Kaine do last night? "Great. Two thumbs up!" Clinton says while boarding her plane, putting up both thumbs. | |
| Trump, meanwhile, credits Mike Pence with bravely overcoming the “constant interruptions” by Kaine: | |
| The constant interruptions last night by Tim Kaine should not have been allowed. Mike Pence won big! | |
| Constant interruptions... that sounds familiar from somewhere... | |
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| When Mike Pence led the anti-LGBT backlash | When Mike Pence led the anti-LGBT backlash |
| Amanda Holpuch | Amanda Holpuch |
| Mike Pence first rose to the national stage during a crisis that pundits said had “exploded”, “plummeted” and “crumbled” his chances of representing the GOP in the next presidential election, writes the Guardian’s Amanda Holpuch: | Mike Pence first rose to the national stage during a crisis that pundits said had “exploded”, “plummeted” and “crumbled” his chances of representing the GOP in the next presidential election, writes the Guardian’s Amanda Holpuch: |
| It was March 2015 and same-sex marriage was on the verge of becoming legal nationwide – carried by probably the swiftest change in public opinion in US history – but the Indiana governor and establishment favorite going into 2016 was standing firm. | It was March 2015 and same-sex marriage was on the verge of becoming legal nationwide – carried by probably the swiftest change in public opinion in US history – but the Indiana governor and establishment favorite going into 2016 was standing firm. |
| The state’s residents, big business and the rest of the country had quickly turned against Pence for signing into law a religious freedom bill that was interpreted as state-sanctioned discrimination against LGBT people and a bad faith reaction to the legalization of same-sex marriage in Indiana against the governor’s wishes. | The state’s residents, big business and the rest of the country had quickly turned against Pence for signing into law a religious freedom bill that was interpreted as state-sanctioned discrimination against LGBT people and a bad faith reaction to the legalization of same-sex marriage in Indiana against the governor’s wishes. |
| But today, as his party’s vice-presidential nominee, Pence’s name now sits just below Donald Trump’s on bumper stickers and placards stuck in front yards across the country. | But today, as his party’s vice-presidential nominee, Pence’s name now sits just below Donald Trump’s on bumper stickers and placards stuck in front yards across the country. |
| On this ticket, Pence is the GOP’s steady pair of hands compared with the politically inexperienced Trump, but the impact of the religious freedom battle lingers, and his decades of anti-LGBT attitudes that preceded it remain. | On this ticket, Pence is the GOP’s steady pair of hands compared with the politically inexperienced Trump, but the impact of the religious freedom battle lingers, and his decades of anti-LGBT attitudes that preceded it remain. |
| “I have seen no growth, no change, no evidence of nuance,” said Sheila Suess Kennedy, an Indiana University professor who first met Pence as a guest on his radio show, which was broadcast from 1994 to 1999. Like Pence, Kennedy was the Republican candidate for an Indiana congressional seat, but she lost her 1980 race and has been an Indiana political insider ever since. “He is convinced that God doesn’t like gay people and that’s it.” | “I have seen no growth, no change, no evidence of nuance,” said Sheila Suess Kennedy, an Indiana University professor who first met Pence as a guest on his radio show, which was broadcast from 1994 to 1999. Like Pence, Kennedy was the Republican candidate for an Indiana congressional seat, but she lost her 1980 race and has been an Indiana political insider ever since. “He is convinced that God doesn’t like gay people and that’s it.” |
| Read the full piece here: | Read the full piece here: |
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| Bill Clinton struggles to remove foot from mouth on Obamacare | Bill Clinton struggles to remove foot from mouth on Obamacare |
| A sharp and detailed critique of the Affordable Care Act emerged on the campaign trail Monday – but it didn’t come from the Republicans. | A sharp and detailed critique of the Affordable Care Act emerged on the campaign trail Monday – but it didn’t come from the Republicans. |
| At a rally in Flint, Michigan, Bill Clinton dropped this truth bomb: | At a rally in Flint, Michigan, Bill Clinton dropped this truth bomb: |
| So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It’s the craziest thing in the world. | So you’ve got this crazy system where all of a sudden 25 million more people have health care and then the people who are out there busting it, sometimes 60 hours a week, wind up with their premiums doubled and their coverage cut in half. It’s the craziest thing in the world. |
| Clinton tried to reverse that statement at a rally Tuesday in Athens, Ohio, saying: | Clinton tried to reverse that statement at a rally Tuesday in Athens, Ohio, saying: |
| Look, the Affordable Health Care Act did a world of good, and the 50-something efforts to repeal it that the Republicans have staged were a terrible mistake. We, for the first time in our history, at least are providing insurance to more than 90% of our people. | Look, the Affordable Health Care Act did a world of good, and the 50-something efforts to repeal it that the Republicans have staged were a terrible mistake. We, for the first time in our history, at least are providing insurance to more than 90% of our people. |
| But the damage had been done, as Pence quoted Clinton during the debate, opening the way perhaps for Trump to press the case – if he focused on it. | But the damage had been done, as Pence quoted Clinton during the debate, opening the way perhaps for Trump to press the case – if he focused on it. |
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| Hello, and welcome to our live-wire coverage of the 2016 race for the White House. The vice-presidential nominees debated last night, both turning in performances that thrilled their bases, although it’s not clear that Indiana governor Mike Pence thrilled his boss – “[Donald Trump] can’t stand to be upstaged,” an unnamed Trump adviser told NBC News afterward. | Hello, and welcome to our live-wire coverage of the 2016 race for the White House. The vice-presidential nominees debated last night, both turning in performances that thrilled their bases, although it’s not clear that Indiana governor Mike Pence thrilled his boss – “[Donald Trump] can’t stand to be upstaged,” an unnamed Trump adviser told NBC News afterward. |
| Pence was praised for his fluid style, while Hillary Clinton’s running mate Tim Kaine won plaudits for working hard to pin Pence down on the many controversial things Trump has said. Pence’s tactic was to deny that Trump had said those things. | Pence was praised for his fluid style, while Hillary Clinton’s running mate Tim Kaine won plaudits for working hard to pin Pence down on the many controversial things Trump has said. Pence’s tactic was to deny that Trump had said those things. |
| That has opened the way for some accountability journalism. The Huffington Post has produced an instructive video mashup of Trump saying all the things Pence denied he’d said. The Clinton camp put out something similar: | That has opened the way for some accountability journalism. The Huffington Post has produced an instructive video mashup of Trump saying all the things Pence denied he’d said. The Clinton camp put out something similar: |
| At the #VPDebate, Mike Pence tried really, really hard to deny pretty much everything Donald Trump has said and done. Let's replay the tape: pic.twitter.com/5XNKyFX6az | At the #VPDebate, Mike Pence tried really, really hard to deny pretty much everything Donald Trump has said and done. Let's replay the tape: pic.twitter.com/5XNKyFX6az |
| Politico, meanwhile, has produced coverage of “six Trump statements that Pence attempted to tweak, massage or erase all together”. Topics include tax returns, social security, insults, Russian president Vladimir Putin, nuclear weapons and abortion. | Politico, meanwhile, has produced coverage of “six Trump statements that Pence attempted to tweak, massage or erase all together”. Topics include tax returns, social security, insults, Russian president Vladimir Putin, nuclear weapons and abortion. |
| Top moment on Facebook of #VPDebate: “He is asking everybody to vote for somebody that he cannot defend.” - @timkaine | Top moment on Facebook of #VPDebate: “He is asking everybody to vote for somebody that he cannot defend.” - @timkaine |
| Here’s a video of the debate highlights: | Here’s a video of the debate highlights: |
| While there was no Trump-level always-be-closing salesman onstage to give the fact-checkers a real workout, the checkers nonetheless had plenty to do. Here’s the Guardian’s Alan Yuhas keeping them honest: | While there was no Trump-level always-be-closing salesman onstage to give the fact-checkers a real workout, the checkers nonetheless had plenty to do. Here’s the Guardian’s Alan Yuhas keeping them honest: |
| What if Pence were the nominee? | What if Pence were the nominee? |
| After the debate, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said that Pence had failed to defend Trump, but had come across as “smooth” and “sort of likable”. He was sunny where Trump is cloudy. Pence was in control where Trump is not. | After the debate, Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said that Pence had failed to defend Trump, but had come across as “smooth” and “sort of likable”. He was sunny where Trump is cloudy. Pence was in control where Trump is not. |
| But was Pence’s performance strong enough to occasion buyer’s remorse for the Republicans? | But was Pence’s performance strong enough to occasion buyer’s remorse for the Republicans? |
| 1. One thing that's going to be vastly overstated today on cable is "If Pence were prez candidate, he'd be blowing HRC away." No (con'd) | 1. One thing that's going to be vastly overstated today on cable is "If Pence were prez candidate, he'd be blowing HRC away." No (con'd) |
| Today on the trail | Today on the trail |
| Clinton will be in Washington DC today for finance events, while Trump, who stayed overnight in Las Vegas, has a midday event in a suburb of Sin City and an afternoon event in Reno. | Clinton will be in Washington DC today for finance events, while Trump, who stayed overnight in Las Vegas, has a midday event in a suburb of Sin City and an afternoon event in Reno. |
| Clinton has a lot of surrogates in the field today – everyone short of the president and first lady, it seems. Bill Clinton is still somewhere on a bus in Ohio; Kaine will be in Philadelphia; Bernie Sanders will campaign in Des Moines, Iowa, and in Madison and Green Bay, Wisconsin; and Chelsea Clinton will campaign in Iowa. | Clinton has a lot of surrogates in the field today – everyone short of the president and first lady, it seems. Bill Clinton is still somewhere on a bus in Ohio; Kaine will be in Philadelphia; Bernie Sanders will campaign in Des Moines, Iowa, and in Madison and Green Bay, Wisconsin; and Chelsea Clinton will campaign in Iowa. |
| Thanks for reading, and please join us in the comments. | Thanks for reading, and please join us in the comments. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.03pm BST | at 3.03pm BST |