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| Bill Shorten says Tony Abbott is winning marriage debate as bill goes back to parliament – politics live | Bill Shorten says Tony Abbott is winning marriage debate as bill goes back to parliament – politics live |
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| You can see why Albo was such a good leader of the lower house. No one got away under his watch. | |
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| Shameless, that Albo. | |
| Bowers reports that the press gallery is into the grand final and the pollies came second last or fifth out of six teams. He speculated that it was the loss of Stephen Conroy which did the pollies down. Conroy was an enthusiastic, some say brutal player. Albo may be taking the mantle. | |
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| The Big Issue’s Parliamentary Street Soccer Cup in Canberra was on this morning. | |
| This is a very good cause that raises awareness for the Big Issue’s federally funded Community Street Soccer Program, which supports homeless and disadvantaged men and women around Australia. | |
| These are hard-fought games and Mike Bowers played and took photos – showing his many talents. | |
| I am no soccer expert but I am not sure this tackle by Anthony Albanese is legal. | |
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| The sound of canons... | |
| Don’t panic. It is the gun salute for the Singaporean PM. | |
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| Resources minister pushes BP to "make good" on commitments in the Bight | |
| Gareth Hutchens | |
| The resources minister, Matt Canavan, says he is “bitterly disappointed” with BP’s decision to not go ahead with its controversial plan to drill for oil in the commonwealth marine reserve in the Great Australian Bight. | |
| He said BP was allowed to explore for oil in the marine reserve by making almost half a billion dollars worth of commitments to do work in the area, and now it had walked away. | |
| [So] I would expect them to make good some of those commitments in other ways. I’ll be very interested in discussing with them in coming days what those plans might be. | |
| He criticised environmental groups that had campaigned against BP’s project. | |
| I do think it’s the ugly side of green activism, that yesterday a decision was made which impacts around 25 businesses ... in South Australia, we think up to 100 workers will be impacted, and those workers I’m sure went to bed last night a little restless ... but we had other people in this country popping the champagne corks and celebrating that fact. What does frustrate me is sometimes those workers in these industries, who tend to be fairly quiet, reticent types of people, aren’t the ones on the radio or in the media telling their stories. | |
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| There is a longstanding fight in the NSW Liberal party over reform. It goes to the way preselections are conducted. Katharine Murphy reported on the issue spilling into the partyroom yesterday when it was raised by Tony Abbott and knocked down by Christopher Pyne on the grounds that state party business should not be discussed in the federal party room. | |
| Peta Credlin, former Abbott chief of staff, hit back on her Sky platform last night. She said if a NSW MP (Abbott) cannot raise it in the partyroom led by a NSW PM (Turnbull), then what is the world coming to? | |
| Abbott also hit back at the leaks in a chat with Murpharoo. | |
| Tony Abbott has publicly challenged Malcolm Turnbull to lead a democratisation push in New South Wales as he launched a stinging broadside against colleagues for leaking his tussle in Tuesday’s party room meeting. | |
| The former prime minister told Guardian Australia he was “dismayed” by the leaks after Tuesday’s regular party room meeting in Canberra. “It’s a cancer on our polity – this culture of leaking.” | |
| “The fact that people readily leak pejorative stuff to damage colleagues is pretty dishonourable I think,” Abbott said on Tuesday afternoon. | |
| “Leaks are poisoning our political culture.” | |
| He went further...it really is worth a read. | |
| He remarked that it was “just crackers” to say state organisational issues could not be considered during party room meetings in Canberra given organisational issues in electorates and in various states were considered all the time. | |
| “This line that it shouldn’t be raised in the party room is self-serving at best,” Abbott said – returning the rebuke to Pyne. | |
| On the issue of reform of preselections, Abbott said it was important to revitalise procedures in NSW, which was a division that had been run by “factional warlords”. | |
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| Barnaby Joyce: ring your Labor member to support backpacker tax and plebiscite | Barnaby Joyce: ring your Labor member to support backpacker tax and plebiscite |
| As I said the backpacker bills will come into parliament, which sits at 9.30am. | As I said the backpacker bills will come into parliament, which sits at 9.30am. |
| There are four related bills: | There are four related bills: |
| Barnaby Joyce has accused Labor of playing politics *drink* and failing to support the government when they had fixed the backpacker problem of attracting labour. (Which was a problem entirely of their own making when they whacked a 32.5% tax on backpackers without consulting with their own backbench, tourism or ag industries. They have since revised the tax to 19%.) | Barnaby Joyce has accused Labor of playing politics *drink* and failing to support the government when they had fixed the backpacker problem of attracting labour. (Which was a problem entirely of their own making when they whacked a 32.5% tax on backpackers without consulting with their own backbench, tourism or ag industries. They have since revised the tax to 19%.) |
| After we went through the process and deliberations and making sure we have a backpacker tax rate to attract labour into the country. Before we did it the Labor party were deriding us and now we have fixed it, they won’t support us. I ask people to ring up their Labor party member, their Labor party senator and ask them to do two things for us – support the backpacker tax to get this issue off the agenda and please support the plebiscite so we can get this issue off the agenda as well. | After we went through the process and deliberations and making sure we have a backpacker tax rate to attract labour into the country. Before we did it the Labor party were deriding us and now we have fixed it, they won’t support us. I ask people to ring up their Labor party member, their Labor party senator and ask them to do two things for us – support the backpacker tax to get this issue off the agenda and please support the plebiscite so we can get this issue off the agenda as well. |
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| Paul Karp reports that Labor and the Greens will combine to push for a Senate committee to examine how best to close coal power stations to meet Australia’s climate change targets. | Paul Karp reports that Labor and the Greens will combine to push for a Senate committee to examine how best to close coal power stations to meet Australia’s climate change targets. |
| The Greens and Labor will move a motion to ask the Senate environment and communications references committee to report on mass closures of electricity generators, and expect sufficient crossbench support to set up the inquiry. | The Greens and Labor will move a motion to ask the Senate environment and communications references committee to report on mass closures of electricity generators, and expect sufficient crossbench support to set up the inquiry. |
| It will consider how the retirement of coal power plants can help meet the Paris climate target of limiting global warming to 2C and how to achieve it with “minimal community and individual impact from closures”. That will include ways to attract new investment and jobs to affected communities. | It will consider how the retirement of coal power plants can help meet the Paris climate target of limiting global warming to 2C and how to achieve it with “minimal community and individual impact from closures”. That will include ways to attract new investment and jobs to affected communities. |
| The committee will also consider the increasing amount of electricity generated by renewables, future demand and the “maintenance of electricity supply, affordability and security”. | The committee will also consider the increasing amount of electricity generated by renewables, future demand and the “maintenance of electricity supply, affordability and security”. |
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| Foreign powers most serious threat to cyber security, says report | Foreign powers most serious threat to cyber security, says report |
| The 2016 Threat Report will be released today by the Australian Cyber Security Centre. This is the government body that deals with all of this stuff. | The 2016 Threat Report will be released today by the Australian Cyber Security Centre. This is the government body that deals with all of this stuff. |
| The most interesting point is that it identifies foreign powers as “the most serious and rising threat to the security of government networks”, according to the Oz. | The most interesting point is that it identifies foreign powers as “the most serious and rising threat to the security of government networks”, according to the Oz. |
| In the 18 months to June 30 this year, government networks were hit by 1,095 serious cyber assaults from all sources, including foreign espionage. | In the 18 months to June 30 this year, government networks were hit by 1,095 serious cyber assaults from all sources, including foreign espionage. |
| The report says the danger of a single major cyber attack on the government has increased. | The report says the danger of a single major cyber attack on the government has increased. |
| Behaviour by a number of countries is demonstrating a willingness to use disruptive and destructive cyber operations to seriously impede or embarrass organisations and governments – equating to foreign interference or coercion. The employment of the tactic in such a brazen manner against high-profile entities has almost certainly lowered the threshold of adversaries seeking to conduct such acts. | Behaviour by a number of countries is demonstrating a willingness to use disruptive and destructive cyber operations to seriously impede or embarrass organisations and governments – equating to foreign interference or coercion. The employment of the tactic in such a brazen manner against high-profile entities has almost certainly lowered the threshold of adversaries seeking to conduct such acts. |
| Dan Tehan, the minister assisting the prime minister on cybersecurity, says at the moment the capability is limited but it will increase over time. | Dan Tehan, the minister assisting the prime minister on cybersecurity, says at the moment the capability is limited but it will increase over time. |
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| Before I go anywhere else, you might be wondering what the Singaporean PM is doing in town. Katharine Murphy has enlightened us here: | Before I go anywhere else, you might be wondering what the Singaporean PM is doing in town. Katharine Murphy has enlightened us here: |
| The practice is that the senators will head down to the House and they will squash in on the benches to listen to the address. | The practice is that the senators will head down to the House and they will squash in on the benches to listen to the address. |
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| Good morning fellow tragics, | Good morning fellow tragics, |
| It is a very full program today, this hump day in the parliament. | It is a very full program today, this hump day in the parliament. |
| The debate over the marriage plebiscite bill will continue. We heard a number of speeches last night. Long-time Liberal National party advocate Warren Entsch made a heartfelt contribution – in the end arguing for the plebiscite as the “the best possible chance” in a decade. You can argue the point on the plebiscite but you cannot argue with Entsch’s intentions. His frustration with both parties is palpable. | The debate over the marriage plebiscite bill will continue. We heard a number of speeches last night. Long-time Liberal National party advocate Warren Entsch made a heartfelt contribution – in the end arguing for the plebiscite as the “the best possible chance” in a decade. You can argue the point on the plebiscite but you cannot argue with Entsch’s intentions. His frustration with both parties is palpable. |
| It has been a long road to get to this point, and I accept that there are those who are not happy with where we have ended up. The plebiscite certainly is not my preferred position either. I put up a cross-party bill back in 2015 in good faith, but it joined the other 17 unsuccessful bills that have gone before it ... This is a battle that has been going on for decades now. And, while I am not challenging the intention of some individuals across politics in championing this cause or those within the marriage equality movement, I am concerned that people are losing sight of the endgame. For them, it is more about the battle than the outcome. | It has been a long road to get to this point, and I accept that there are those who are not happy with where we have ended up. The plebiscite certainly is not my preferred position either. I put up a cross-party bill back in 2015 in good faith, but it joined the other 17 unsuccessful bills that have gone before it ... This is a battle that has been going on for decades now. And, while I am not challenging the intention of some individuals across politics in championing this cause or those within the marriage equality movement, I am concerned that people are losing sight of the endgame. For them, it is more about the battle than the outcome. |
| But opposition leader Bill Shorten also spoke: | But opposition leader Bill Shorten also spoke: |
| This plebiscite is not about marriage equality. It is about two things and two things only: Tony Abbott’s ideology and Malcolm Turnbull’s job security. Equality for minorities should not be conditional on the approval of majorities. You do not have an opinion poll on rights. That is why they are called rights. Imposing this plebiscite would not just be a waste of money or a failure of leadership; I think it would be a failure of basic decency. It is a glaring contradiction of our national ideal of a fair go for all. | This plebiscite is not about marriage equality. It is about two things and two things only: Tony Abbott’s ideology and Malcolm Turnbull’s job security. Equality for minorities should not be conditional on the approval of majorities. You do not have an opinion poll on rights. That is why they are called rights. Imposing this plebiscite would not just be a waste of money or a failure of leadership; I think it would be a failure of basic decency. It is a glaring contradiction of our national ideal of a fair go for all. |
| We will have more of those speeches throughout the day. | We will have more of those speeches throughout the day. |
| On top of that, the revised legislation for the backpackers tax will also come to the house, with the attached increases in the passenger movement charge and the backpacker superannuation changes. Barnaby Joyce has already been out this morning. | On top of that, the revised legislation for the backpackers tax will also come to the house, with the attached increases in the passenger movement charge and the backpacker superannuation changes. Barnaby Joyce has already been out this morning. |
| The Singaporean prime minister Lee Hsien Loong will address the house mid morning. | The Singaporean prime minister Lee Hsien Loong will address the house mid morning. |
| There is a big cybersecurity report out. Cameron Stewart of the Oz reports: | There is a big cybersecurity report out. Cameron Stewart of the Oz reports: |
| Terrorists could be able to break into secure Australian government networks to wreak significant disruption or destruction within three years, according to a major government report on cyber security. | Terrorists could be able to break into secure Australian government networks to wreak significant disruption or destruction within three years, according to a major government report on cyber security. |
| I will flesh that out in a minute. | I will flesh that out in a minute. |
| Let’s get this baby up and running. Join us in the thread or on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers. Mike is lurking in the building, I am sure he will paint a thousand words shortly. | Let’s get this baby up and running. Join us in the thread or on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers. Mike is lurking in the building, I am sure he will paint a thousand words shortly. |
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