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| Coalition embarrassed by mistaken support for Labor vote – politics live | Coalition embarrassed by mistaken support for Labor vote – politics live |
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| 11.26pm BST | |
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| Both houses begin sitting at 9.30am. | |
| 11.25pm BST | |
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| Bill Shorten has held a quick presser out the front of the building. | |
| Q: What are the ramifications from this historic moment [the loss of a vote]? Does anything actually happen out of it? | |
| Labor believes the government has been a soft touch on multi-nationals not paying their direct tax in Australia. The parliament has passed a resolution which confirms that view. | |
| 11.23pm BST | |
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| Assistant minister James McGrath has referenced the scary clown craze on Sky while talking about the vote last night. | |
| There is a craze to look out for crazy clowns in Australia. You don’t need to look far. They are all down here in the Labor party. | |
| 11.07pm BST | |
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| Bronwyn Bishop: Where are the left wing women on rape by refugees in Germany? | |
| Bronwyn Bishop has weighed in on Julia Gillard’s comments suggesting women were being dissuaded from pursuing a career in politics because of abuse and threats online. | |
| The artist formerly known as Madame Speaker let loose on Gillard’s temerity. | |
| Former speaker Bronwyn Bishop calls for the 'left-wing voice' to speak out about violence against women https://t.co/qIpXiXCFZK | |
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| By the way, after the vote stuff up was revealed, there was general confusion over what to do because it has never happened. | |
| The Speaker Tony Smith - who was not in the chair at the time of the vote - came to the chamber and made the following statement: | |
| Earlier today, the question on a second reading amendment moved by the Member for Fenner on the International Tax Agreements Amendment Bill 2016 was put to the House and, as I understand it, called for the Ayes. | |
| As the question on the amendment was called for the ‘Ayes’ and not contested, the amendment was validly passed and proceedings on the bill should have ceased at that point. I understand that questions on the second and third readings of the bill were then put. This should not have happened and those proceedings were not valid. The Votes and Proceedings record will be corrected to show the second reading amendment being agreed to and proceedings on the bill ceasing at that point. | |
| But the speaker noted that Labor supported the bill and made mention in their motion that Labor did not want to stop the bill in its tracks. Smith said he would allow the change to the record if it was agreed on (by both sides). | |
| As the Member for Fenner’s [Andrew Leigh] amendment was in the form ‘whilst not declining to give the bill a second reading…’ I consider this is a reasonable course of action and I will permit that to occur. | |
| Some of the readers are wondering why Labor allowed the Coalition to amend their mistake. | |
| In my view, three reasons: | |
| 10.34pm BST | 10.34pm BST |
| 22:34 | 22:34 |
| Trade minister Steve Ciobo on procedural error: The fixer has fixed it | Trade minister Steve Ciobo on procedural error: The fixer has fixed it |
| Trade minister Steve Ciobo has been on ABC AM talking about the Singapore prime minister’s visit and the resulting trade and partnership deals which open the way for greater cooperation between the two countries. | Trade minister Steve Ciobo has been on ABC AM talking about the Singapore prime minister’s visit and the resulting trade and partnership deals which open the way for greater cooperation between the two countries. |
| What matters is that this has been fixed and the comment earlier that the fixer has fixed it. Christopher Pyne has fixed this issue. It was a procedural error in the house. There were multiple parties involved and that’s why this error took place. To throw a bouquet to the opposition they supported the government in having it declared null and void because it was a procedural error. | What matters is that this has been fixed and the comment earlier that the fixer has fixed it. Christopher Pyne has fixed this issue. It was a procedural error in the house. There were multiple parties involved and that’s why this error took place. To throw a bouquet to the opposition they supported the government in having it declared null and void because it was a procedural error. |
| Let’s look at what the government has actually delivered this week. We’ve delivered now a comprehensive upgrade to Australia’s free trade agreement with Singapore, we have delivered tax relief to 500,000 Australians that are average wage earners and in middle incomes and made good on our commitment to CFA volunteers in Victoria. Now that sounds like a good track record of a government that is focussed on delivering for the Australian people. | Let’s look at what the government has actually delivered this week. We’ve delivered now a comprehensive upgrade to Australia’s free trade agreement with Singapore, we have delivered tax relief to 500,000 Australians that are average wage earners and in middle incomes and made good on our commitment to CFA volunteers in Victoria. Now that sounds like a good track record of a government that is focussed on delivering for the Australian people. |
| If Bill Shorten and the Labor party want to run around and pretend a procedural vote in the house of representatives in any way indicates anything otherwise, well good luck to them. | If Bill Shorten and the Labor party want to run around and pretend a procedural vote in the house of representatives in any way indicates anything otherwise, well good luck to them. |
| 10.20pm BST | 10.20pm BST |
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| Three ministers, health minister Sussan Ley, assistant health minister Ken Wyatt and Indigenous minister Nigel Scullion will travel to Indigenous communities tomorrow to discuss suicide prevention techniques. Ley has told the ABC: | Three ministers, health minister Sussan Ley, assistant health minister Ken Wyatt and Indigenous minister Nigel Scullion will travel to Indigenous communities tomorrow to discuss suicide prevention techniques. Ley has told the ABC: |
| We don’t know what has worked and what hasn’t...Suicide was almost unknown in Indigenous communities before 1960 so it is indeed a national tragedy that the rate is now double of non-Indigenous communities. | We don’t know what has worked and what hasn’t...Suicide was almost unknown in Indigenous communities before 1960 so it is indeed a national tragedy that the rate is now double of non-Indigenous communities. |
| The government has put $1m into a suicide prevention trial and Ley says the local communities will need to be happy with the programs that come out of the trial. | The government has put $1m into a suicide prevention trial and Ley says the local communities will need to be happy with the programs that come out of the trial. |
| Part of my discussions tomorrow with Ken and Nigel Scullion will be about ensuring the local groups, the Aboriginal Medical Service and the community controlled health organisations are indeed happy. | Part of my discussions tomorrow with Ken and Nigel Scullion will be about ensuring the local groups, the Aboriginal Medical Service and the community controlled health organisations are indeed happy. |
| My Guardian colleague Calla Walquist has been reporting on this national tragedy for some time. This from June this year: | My Guardian colleague Calla Walquist has been reporting on this national tragedy for some time. This from June this year: |
| Indigenous people in the Kimberley region of Western Australia are seven times more likely to kill themselves and up to 20 times more likely to self-harm than other Australians, creating a situation where suicide has become “normalised behaviour”, a report has found. | Indigenous people in the Kimberley region of Western Australia are seven times more likely to kill themselves and up to 20 times more likely to self-harm than other Australians, creating a situation where suicide has become “normalised behaviour”, a report has found. |
| There have been increasing calls for a royal commission into Indigenous suicide after a 10-year-old girl killed herself in the remote Aboriginal community of Looma, 250km east of Broome, in March. | There have been increasing calls for a royal commission into Indigenous suicide after a 10-year-old girl killed herself in the remote Aboriginal community of Looma, 250km east of Broome, in March. |
| The report, published in the Medical Journal of Australia on Monday, found that 102 of the 125 people who took their lives in the Kimberley between 2005 and 2014 identified as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. | The report, published in the Medical Journal of Australia on Monday, found that 102 of the 125 people who took their lives in the Kimberley between 2005 and 2014 identified as an Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander. |
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| Good morning people, | Good morning people, |
| Those who were with me just before the close of business will know there was a last minute flurry in the house when the government voted against its own interests. Let me recap for those who do not follow for the full day. (You are only human.) | Those who were with me just before the close of business will know there was a last minute flurry in the house when the government voted against its own interests. Let me recap for those who do not follow for the full day. (You are only human.) |
| There was a Labor amendment to an international tax bill moved by Andrew Leigh. Financial services minister Kelly O’Dwyer was in the chair which means she was in charge on the government side with the usual staffers. The speaker in the chair called for the vote and the government waved it through. As O’Dwyer left the chamber, Leigh thanked the government for voting for a Labor amendment and only then did it dawn on the Coalition what just happened. | There was a Labor amendment to an international tax bill moved by Andrew Leigh. Financial services minister Kelly O’Dwyer was in the chair which means she was in charge on the government side with the usual staffers. The speaker in the chair called for the vote and the government waved it through. As O’Dwyer left the chamber, Leigh thanked the government for voting for a Labor amendment and only then did it dawn on the Coalition what just happened. |
| Manager of opposition business Tony Burke was up on his feet, making hay while the sun shone. | Manager of opposition business Tony Burke was up on his feet, making hay while the sun shone. |
| Let’s make clear what it is that was carried unanimously in this room today. Every member of the house earlier resolved the following - that the house calls on the government to explain why it has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia. | Let’s make clear what it is that was carried unanimously in this room today. Every member of the house earlier resolved the following - that the house calls on the government to explain why it has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia. |
| Leader of the house, Christopher Pyne acknowledged the win. | Leader of the house, Christopher Pyne acknowledged the win. |
| The member is allowed to have his moment in the sun gloating about an inadvertent error. I would make the point that there are several owners of this error and I am not going to criticise them individually because it is wrong to criticise the people who work for us, the people who were sitting in the chair...and I am not going to do that. | The member is allowed to have his moment in the sun gloating about an inadvertent error. I would make the point that there are several owners of this error and I am not going to criticise them individually because it is wrong to criticise the people who work for us, the people who were sitting in the chair...and I am not going to do that. |
| Burke was having none of that this morning. He told Kieran Gilbert on Sky: | Burke was having none of that this morning. He told Kieran Gilbert on Sky: |
| If it was an ordinary administrative error, it would have happened sometime in the last century. It hasn’t. | If it was an ordinary administrative error, it would have happened sometime in the last century. It hasn’t. |
| A point he made on Twitter straight after the vote. | A point he made on Twitter straight after the vote. |
| Today for the first time in the history of Federation an Opposition second reading amendment was carried.This was not the government's plan | Today for the first time in the history of Federation an Opposition second reading amendment was carried.This was not the government's plan |
| I spoke to Burke straight after to confirm it because not even the live minutes of the house recorded the fact. No one was ready for it. | I spoke to Burke straight after to confirm it because not even the live minutes of the house recorded the fact. No one was ready for it. |
| Labor allowed the government to amend the vote after they had made their point and events continued to the adjournment. The truth is Labor is very good at this procedural stuff, having survived the hung parliament. They know how to run a tight parliamentary ship and thus, they can identify the weak points. | Labor allowed the government to amend the vote after they had made their point and events continued to the adjournment. The truth is Labor is very good at this procedural stuff, having survived the hung parliament. They know how to run a tight parliamentary ship and thus, they can identify the weak points. |
| Onwards and upwards. Today we see the introduction of the bills which reform Vocational Education and Training sector. There are three bills associated: | Onwards and upwards. Today we see the introduction of the bills which reform Vocational Education and Training sector. There are three bills associated: |
| Education minister Simon Birmingham announced reforms that tighten up a scheme that has seen a 1000 dodgy colleges bloom. We reported on this earlier: | Education minister Simon Birmingham announced reforms that tighten up a scheme that has seen a 1000 dodgy colleges bloom. We reported on this earlier: |
| The new system will impose tougher barriers to entry on private training colleges, loan caps will be applied to courses, course eligibility criteria will be strengthened in alignment with what the government terms “industry requirements”, and there will be mandatory student engagement measures. | The new system will impose tougher barriers to entry on private training colleges, loan caps will be applied to courses, course eligibility criteria will be strengthened in alignment with what the government terms “industry requirements”, and there will be mandatory student engagement measures. |
| Let’s get on with it. I am @gabriellechan on the Twits and he is @mpbowers. If you prefer a longer chat, you can get me through my Facebook page or below. Grab a cuppa, personally I am charged up on the camomile. Living on the edge... | Let’s get on with it. I am @gabriellechan on the Twits and he is @mpbowers. If you prefer a longer chat, you can get me through my Facebook page or below. Grab a cuppa, personally I am charged up on the camomile. Living on the edge... |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 10.04pm BST | at 10.04pm BST |