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Coalition embarrassed by mistaken support for Labor vote – politics live | Coalition embarrassed by mistaken support for Labor vote – politics live |
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1.46am BST | |
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I told you there has been a storm of legislation. | |
*1 MR PORTER : To present a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to social security, and for related purposes. ( Social Services Legislation Amendment (Transition Mobility Allowance to the National Disability Insurance Scheme) Bill 2016 ) | |
*2 MRS K. L. ANDREWS : To present a Bill for an Act to provide for loans to students for vocational education and training, and for related purposes. ( VET Student Loans Bill 2016 ) | |
*3 MRS K. L. ANDREWS : To present a Bill for an Act to deal with consequential and transitional matters in relation to the enactment of the VET Student Loans Act 2016, and for related purposes. ( VET Student Loans (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2016 ) | |
*4 MR TEHAN : To present a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to veterans’ entitlements and military rehabilitation and compensation, and for related purposes. (Veterans’ Affairs Legislation Amendment (Budget and Other Measures) Bill 2016 ) | |
*5 MR HAWKE : To present a Bill for an Act to amend the Customs Act 1901 , and for related purposes. ( Customs Amendment (2017 Harmonized System Changes) Bill 2016 ) | |
*6 MS O’DWYER : To present a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to seafarers, and for other purposes. ( Seafarers and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2016 ) | |
*7 MS O’DWYER : To present a Bill for an Act to amend the law relating to social security and veterans’ entitlements, and for related purposes. ( Social Security Legislation Amendment (Youth Jobs Path: Prepare, Trial, Hire) Bill 2016 ) | |
Except that financial services minister Kelly O’Dwyer’s duties were taken by assistant cities minister Angus Taylor. The financial services minister must be on the bench. | |
1.39am BST | |
01:39 | |
Matt Hatter weighs in on the Coalition Agreement. | |
@gabriellechan The Coalition agreement, whilst considered somewhat obscure by some, was often praised for its succinctness. #auspol pic.twitter.com/JYzwpsi1fh | |
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Trouble if I've ever seen it @gabriellechan #PoliticsLive #auspol @mpbowers @cochl @ellinghausen pic.twitter.com/ulgCPAvluN | |
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Gareth Hutchens | |
That Hinch matter. Gareth Hutchens reports: | |
The Senate just conducted an interesting ballot. | |
It was asked to vote on who should have a seat on the Senate privileges committee – and the contest was between the Greens senator Scott Ludlam and the new independent senator Derryn Hinch. | |
Hinch wanted to be on the committee and he was apparently upset that Ludlam looked likely to be renominated. The Senate voted 39-29 in Ludlam’s favour. | |
Some background. | |
The committee’s role is to investigate conduct deemed to be obstructing the work of the Senate. It also monitors the use and abuse of parliamentary privilege. | |
Hinch used parliamentary privilege in his maiden senate speech to name four men he claimed were paedophiles. He has threatened to keep doing so. He really wanted to be on the committee. | |
The committee has eight members. Four are nominated by the government, three by the opposition, and one by a minority party and independent senators. | |
The Greens and crossbenchers therefore have to talk among themselves to nominate someone. | |
Ludlam was previously on the committee, and his staff says he had consulted his crossbench colleagues to see if they minded him being on it again, and no one objected. So it looked as though Ludlam was on. | |
But Hinch said he wasn’t consulted and he wasn’t happy about it. Ludlam agreed to let the Senate vote on it. | |
Hinch lost. | |
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After a veritable tornado of bills in the house this morning, the house is back on to the plebiscite. | |
Next, to the Senate. | |
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Here we all are ... | |
How is the weather? | |
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The Coalition agreement: the unicorn of federal politics | The Coalition agreement: the unicorn of federal politics |
Paul Karp has reported on George Christensen: | Paul Karp has reported on George Christensen: |
The government cannot propose a free vote on same-sex marriage now the plebiscite is doomed because it would breach the Coalition agreement, the conservative MP George Christensen has said. | |
The chief nationals whip made the comment on Sky News on Thursday, as Nationals MPs who oppose same-sex marriage began a campaign to prevent reconsideration of a free vote now Labor has said it will vote the plebiscite down. | |
It comes after Malcolm Turnbull refused to rule out a free vote on marriage equality, in direct contrast to the stance taken by the Nationals leader, Barnaby Joyce. | |
“All I will say on that is if all of a sudden the policy becomes a free vote, my firm view, and it’s not just a view it’s actually the reality, [is] that is breaking one of the tenets of the Liberal National Coalition deal,” Christensen said. | “All I will say on that is if all of a sudden the policy becomes a free vote, my firm view, and it’s not just a view it’s actually the reality, [is] that is breaking one of the tenets of the Liberal National Coalition deal,” Christensen said. |
“That would be quite a serious matter so I don’t think that’s going to eventuate.” | “That would be quite a serious matter so I don’t think that’s going to eventuate.” |
It is a really interesting question, this Coalition agreement. It is the unicorn of Australian politics, often cited, rarely seen. Or maybe to mangle my metaphors, a magic pudding, expanding to whatever is required. | It is a really interesting question, this Coalition agreement. It is the unicorn of Australian politics, often cited, rarely seen. Or maybe to mangle my metaphors, a magic pudding, expanding to whatever is required. |
The point of keeping it secret is that the deal can be all things to all people. No facts required. Bearing that in mind ... | |
As far as we can ascertain, there is a written deal and then there is a handshake deal between Malcolm Turnbull and Barnaby Joyce. I have it on good authority that the written deal is not seen by the National MPs in the party room. The discussion of the deal tends to be in broad brushes. | |
So if Christensen says its part of the Coalition deal, he must be talking about the handshake deal between Turnbull and Joyce. | So if Christensen says its part of the Coalition deal, he must be talking about the handshake deal between Turnbull and Joyce. |
In any case, given taht the plebiscite bill looks to be going down the tube, the important question is what does the Coalition agreement say on the next step? | |
Broad and Christensen have come out to kibosh a free vote in anticipation of the next step – in case Turnbull gets the whacky idea of allowing the parliament to vote. | |
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Karen Andrews, as assistant minister for education, has introduced the VET loan bills. | Karen Andrews, as assistant minister for education, has introduced the VET loan bills. |
12.22am BST | 12.22am BST |
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Lee and Turnbull are asked about the tendency towards protectionism. Lee says there is nothing to be gained by closing ourselves off in our little corner. | Lee and Turnbull are asked about the tendency towards protectionism. Lee says there is nothing to be gained by closing ourselves off in our little corner. |
Turnbull: | Turnbull: |
The critical role for us as leaders is to set out the facts clearly, reassure our communities and explain to them that turning your back on technology, turning your back on innovation, turning your back on this change is only a road back to impoverishment, as Prime Minister Lee said. And the world has seen that film before, so this is not a theoretical proposition. | The critical role for us as leaders is to set out the facts clearly, reassure our communities and explain to them that turning your back on technology, turning your back on innovation, turning your back on this change is only a road back to impoverishment, as Prime Minister Lee said. And the world has seen that film before, so this is not a theoretical proposition. |
12.17am BST | 12.17am BST |
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The first question to Turnbull and Lee is about trade-offs. | The first question to Turnbull and Lee is about trade-offs. |
The second is on the role of the US in Asia (the South China Sea). | The second is on the role of the US in Asia (the South China Sea). |
Lee says it is important that the US is in Asia. | Lee says it is important that the US is in Asia. |
PM Lee hopes the US ratifies the Trans Pacific Partnership. | PM Lee hopes the US ratifies the Trans Pacific Partnership. |
It is important that there are good relations between America and China, America and Japan, which enable them to discuss individual difficult issues in the South China Sea and a broader context. So that there are restraints on pushing difficult problems [but], at the same time, there is a possibility of seeing it with a perspective and therefore, managing and preventing them from getting out of control. | It is important that there are good relations between America and China, America and Japan, which enable them to discuss individual difficult issues in the South China Sea and a broader context. So that there are restraints on pushing difficult problems [but], at the same time, there is a possibility of seeing it with a perspective and therefore, managing and preventing them from getting out of control. |
Turnbull also supports the TPP. | Turnbull also supports the TPP. |
The importance of American engagement in our region cannot be overstated … It is of vital importance to the region and of vital importance to our countries. The presence of the United States in our region has underpinned the peace and stability that has been the foundation for the prosperity of the last 40 years, and that extraordinary growth, perhaps most of all in China, has been underpinned by that foundation of peace. | The importance of American engagement in our region cannot be overstated … It is of vital importance to the region and of vital importance to our countries. The presence of the United States in our region has underpinned the peace and stability that has been the foundation for the prosperity of the last 40 years, and that extraordinary growth, perhaps most of all in China, has been underpinned by that foundation of peace. |
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This is interesting from Scott Ludlam’s adviser. It seems the thought of a Human Headline keen on transparency would be too much for the privileges committee. | This is interesting from Scott Ludlam’s adviser. It seems the thought of a Human Headline keen on transparency would be too much for the privileges committee. |
The senate has conducted a ballot and confirmed that they don't think it's a great idea to have Senator Hinch on the Privileges Committee. | The senate has conducted a ballot and confirmed that they don't think it's a great idea to have Senator Hinch on the Privileges Committee. |
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Malcolm Turnbull is speaking with Lee Hsien Loong now. He talks about defence ties, people-to-people ties and trade. But he returns to his favourite theme: | Malcolm Turnbull is speaking with Lee Hsien Loong now. He talks about defence ties, people-to-people ties and trade. But he returns to his favourite theme: |
Singapore has been founded as an open market. A nation dealt built on free trade. That provides jobs and growth … Perhaps, and some respects, underlying all of this, as a theme and the commitment, is greater collaboration with Singapore on innovation and science. | Singapore has been founded as an open market. A nation dealt built on free trade. That provides jobs and growth … Perhaps, and some respects, underlying all of this, as a theme and the commitment, is greater collaboration with Singapore on innovation and science. |
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Put on a 🔴nose to support @RedNose_Aus. Their mission: to tackle all sudden and unexpected deaths in babies. pic.twitter.com/q4qvvVUd1q | Put on a 🔴nose to support @RedNose_Aus. Their mission: to tackle all sudden and unexpected deaths in babies. pic.twitter.com/q4qvvVUd1q |
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Red Nose Day became red face day. | Red Nose Day became red face day. |
But O’Dwyer wisely chose not to wear a red nose with her colleagues. | But O’Dwyer wisely chose not to wear a red nose with her colleagues. |
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The final votes on this Labor motion are now taking place. In the PM’s courtyard, reporters are gathering for a press conference with Malcolm Turnbull and Singapore’s prime minister, Lee Hsien Loong. | The final votes on this Labor motion are now taking place. In the PM’s courtyard, reporters are gathering for a press conference with Malcolm Turnbull and Singapore’s prime minister, Lee Hsien Loong. |
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Breaking: The government wins the vote. | Breaking: The government wins the vote. |
Bowen is gagged. | Bowen is gagged. |
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So pardon me, the last vote was a gag on Tony Burke. The government won this vote 74-70. | So pardon me, the last vote was a gag on Tony Burke. The government won this vote 74-70. |
The current vote is a gag on Chris Bowen who stood up to second the aforementioned suspension motion. | The current vote is a gag on Chris Bowen who stood up to second the aforementioned suspension motion. |
11.40pm BST | 11.40pm BST |
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Labor moves to suspend parliament to debate Coalition loss of control | Labor moves to suspend parliament to debate Coalition loss of control |
Labor’s motion: | Labor’s motion: |
Mr Burke moved: | Mr Burke moved: |
That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent that the house: | That so much of the standing orders be suspended as would prevent that the house: |
(1) notes that in the first 10 sitting days of the 45th parliament: | (1) notes that in the first 10 sitting days of the 45th parliament: |
(a) the government lost control of the floor of the House of Representatives; | (a) the government lost control of the floor of the House of Representatives; |
(b) the treasurer introduced legislation containing a $107m black hole; | (b) the treasurer introduced legislation containing a $107m black hole; |
(c) the Senate ran out of legislation to debate; and | (c) the Senate ran out of legislation to debate; and |
(d) for the first time in the history of the federation, an opposition second reading amendment passed the House of Representatives, meaning the house, and all government members, voted unanimously that the government has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia; and | (d) for the first time in the history of the federation, an opposition second reading amendment passed the House of Representatives, meaning the house, and all government members, voted unanimously that the government has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia; and |
(2) given the house has resolved the government must explain these failures, therefore calls on the minister for revenue to attend the house to explain why the government has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia. | (2) given the house has resolved the government must explain these failures, therefore calls on the minister for revenue to attend the house to explain why the government has failed to close tax loopholes and increase transparency in Australia. |
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The house is now dividing to vote on Burke’s suspension. On the numbers, you would think Labor would lose but I have given up my crystal ball in this parliament. | The house is now dividing to vote on Burke’s suspension. On the numbers, you would think Labor would lose but I have given up my crystal ball in this parliament. |