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| Malcolm Turnbull has a 'warm conversation' with Donald Trump – politics live | |
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| 1.34am GMT | |
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| Now back to the house. The lifetime ban bill is still going with Labor speakers. | |
| Given Wilkie and Bandt gave the major parties such a bollocking, here is a clip of Gellibrand MP Tim Watts. | |
| He is less worried about the crossbench and more worried about Turnbull “being led by the nose” by his immigration minister Peter Dutton. | |
| They cannot be solved by simplistic, scape-goating or snake-oil politics...Don’t reduce yourself to the politics of scapegoating. If you ride that tiger’s back, in the current environment you will soon be eaten. | |
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| The prime minister is asked about the TPP again. He notes that both Trump and Clinton were against the TPP. But he says the government’s job to advocate for the national interest and he and the cabinet believe that it is in Australia’s interests that like minded countries sign the TPP. It looks like its toast now. | |
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| Energy and environment minister Josh Frydenberg concedes perhaps he should not have called the president elect a “dropkick”. | |
| In the lead-up to the vote, I think the prime minister and foreign minister hit the right note. I concede I probably should have followed their lead. | |
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| Turnbull says America will continue to engage in the Asia Pacific region because it is in their national interest. Don’t you worry about that. | |
| There is a reason why the United States has been such a strong presence in the Asia-Pacific for many decades, for many decades. It has been that Pax Americana for the last 40 years that has underpinned the extraordinary growth in prosperity, the raising of billions out of poverty. That has been the foundation of it. That commitment, I am certain will continue because it is manifestly in America’s national interest. | |
| As I said, one of the speeches I gave last night, as I think Paul Keating used to say, quoting Jack Lang in the great race of life always back self interest because you know it is trying. I have no doubt that America will continue to act in its national interest. | |
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| Questions revolve around the US-Australia alliance. Asked whether Trump signalled he would withdraw in any way from the region, Turnbull keeps saying Trump is very strong on the alliance. | |
| On the Trans Pacific Partnership, it sounds like they agreed to disagree. | |
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| Turnbull: Trump is a pragmatist | |
| The prime minister said he and Trump talked about their shared business background. | |
| I suppose as both being businessmen who found our way into politics, somewhat later in life, we come to the problems of our own nations and indeed world problems with a pragmatic approach. Mr Trump is a deal maker. He is a businessman, a deal maker and he will, I have no doubt, view the world in a very practical and pragmatic way. | |
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| Katharine Murphy asks what if the US pulls out of the Paris Agreement under Trump? She also asks about opposition to the Paris Agreement from One Nation and within his own party. | |
| We have ratified the agreement. It takes four years to withdraw. If a country sought to withdraw from the agreement it takes four years. Secondly, this is a global agreement. When Australia makes a commitment to a global agreement, we follow through and that is exactly what we are doing. | |
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| Turnbull: Trump recognises importance of strong alliance | |
| Malcolm Turnbull says he had a “warm conversation” with Donald Trump. | |
| We canvassed a number of issues. Most importantly, we absolutely agreed on the vital importance of our strong alliance. Mr Trump recognises the solidarity that Australia has shown the United States and the United States has shown Australia over 98 years, during which we have fought side-by-side with the United States in every major conflict. Mr Trump recognises that. He has observed the success of our economy and congratulated me on that. We discussed the vital importance of the United States’ continued strong presence in our region. | |
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| The foreign minister, Julie Bishop, notes the Joint Standing Committee on Treaties (Jscot) has recommended ratification after considering the “national interest analysis” and holding four public hearings and receiving almost 50 submissions. It will provide great business opportunities, says Bishop. | |
| The global low-emissions economy is estimated to be worth around $6tn and is growing at some 4%to 5% per annum. We believe, through the use of technology and research and science and innovation, there will be many opportunities for Australian businesses, Australian jobs, in a low-emissions economy. | |
| Australia joins, as the prime minister said, 103 other countries at this point in ratifying the Paris agreement. This accounts for over 70% of the world’s emissions, over 75% of the global GDP and 85% of Australia’s two-way trade. | |
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| Malcolm Turnbull: the Paris agreement is a watershed, we are doing our part | |
| Malcolm Turnbull opens up on the Paris agreement. | |
| Almost a year from the Paris conference, it is clear the agreement was a watershed, a turning point and the adoption of a comprehensive strategy has galvanised the international community and spurred on global action. As you know, we are playing our part with ambitious targets. We are on track to meet and indeed beat our 2020 targets. We will review our climate and energy policies next year to ensure that we meet, as we believe we will, and are committed to meeting our 2030 targets under the agreement. | |
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| OK, a couple of points: | OK, a couple of points: |
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| Here is a part of Andrew Wilkie’s speech, in which he rips into Labor, the Liberals and the National party over asylum seeker policy. | Here is a part of Andrew Wilkie’s speech, in which he rips into Labor, the Liberals and the National party over asylum seeker policy. |
| He was speaking on the lifetime ban bill for those on Manus and Nauru. | He was speaking on the lifetime ban bill for those on Manus and Nauru. |
| His key message: how about you stop treating asylum seekers as a political problem and start treating them like human beings? | His key message: how about you stop treating asylum seekers as a political problem and start treating them like human beings? |
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| Greens MP Adam Bandt says a bill to ban those on Manus and Nauru from Australia for life was a bill “Donald Trump would be proud of”. | Greens MP Adam Bandt says a bill to ban those on Manus and Nauru from Australia for life was a bill “Donald Trump would be proud of”. |
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| Andrew Wilkie: treatment of asylum seekers will be considered like the Stolen Generation by future Australians | Andrew Wilkie: treatment of asylum seekers will be considered like the Stolen Generation by future Australians |
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| Andrew Wilkie, Cathy McGowan and Adam Bandt speak out again refugee lifetime ban bill | Andrew Wilkie, Cathy McGowan and Adam Bandt speak out again refugee lifetime ban bill |
| Over in the lower house, the chamber is debating the lifetime ban on refugees. Labor has already said it would oppose the bill and we have seen a range of Labor speakers denouncing it. | Over in the lower house, the chamber is debating the lifetime ban on refugees. Labor has already said it would oppose the bill and we have seen a range of Labor speakers denouncing it. |
| Denison independent, Andrew Wilkie, is speaking about the bill that would ban people on Manus and Nauru ever coming to Australia again once they are settled in another country. | Denison independent, Andrew Wilkie, is speaking about the bill that would ban people on Manus and Nauru ever coming to Australia again once they are settled in another country. |
| He says in the future, people will talk about Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers like they do of the stolen generations, the Indigenous children forcibly removed from their families. | He says in the future, people will talk about Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers like they do of the stolen generations, the Indigenous children forcibly removed from their families. |
| Wilkie says the handwringing about people drowning – and the need for tough boat policies – is rubbish. | Wilkie says the handwringing about people drowning – and the need for tough boat policies – is rubbish. |
| He says the major-party MPs are happy to play politics with the lives of people, happy to pander to the bigots and xenophobes in the community. | He says the major-party MPs are happy to play politics with the lives of people, happy to pander to the bigots and xenophobes in the community. |
| He is moving an amendment with the Indi independent, Cathy McGowan, to stop the bill for a lifetime ban and create a compassionate response. | He is moving an amendment with the Indi independent, Cathy McGowan, to stop the bill for a lifetime ban and create a compassionate response. |
| You are both peas in the pod, you are both as bad as each other. | You are both peas in the pod, you are both as bad as each other. |
| If you started acting like leaders it might actually work in your self interest, yells Wilkie across the chamber. That’s why people are voting for minor parties and independents. | If you started acting like leaders it might actually work in your self interest, yells Wilkie across the chamber. That’s why people are voting for minor parties and independents. |
| Cathy McGowan is not allowed to speak because she has already spoken on the bill and she is not “given leave” by the majors. | Cathy McGowan is not allowed to speak because she has already spoken on the bill and she is not “given leave” by the majors. |
| But this is a bit of what she said earlier in a statement. She says Indi voters have given her an overwhelmingly message that Australia should do better on asylum seekers. The proposed legislation failed the “principle” test of good legislation and the test of equality. | But this is a bit of what she said earlier in a statement. She says Indi voters have given her an overwhelmingly message that Australia should do better on asylum seekers. The proposed legislation failed the “principle” test of good legislation and the test of equality. |
| A local Indi business owner summed up the sentiment of my electorate: ‘I find this new policy appalling. We are a better society than this. I cannot believe this policy will succeed’. | A local Indi business owner summed up the sentiment of my electorate: ‘I find this new policy appalling. We are a better society than this. I cannot believe this policy will succeed’. |
| It fails the test of being able to be administered or delivered or enforced. It is based on fear. Its focus is to create a deterrent and punishment without a balance of reward, rehabilitation, against a long-term humanitarian approach. | It fails the test of being able to be administered or delivered or enforced. It is based on fear. Its focus is to create a deterrent and punishment without a balance of reward, rehabilitation, against a long-term humanitarian approach. |
| I call on the government to outline a plan for migration policy in this country. How can we bring more compassion into government policy without encouraging the false hope pedalled by those who prey on the vulnerable and desperate? | I call on the government to outline a plan for migration policy in this country. How can we bring more compassion into government policy without encouraging the false hope pedalled by those who prey on the vulnerable and desperate? |
| Any response will require a genuinely regional solution involving most, if not all south-east Asian countries, including Australia and New Zealand. Any solution must involve the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. | Any response will require a genuinely regional solution involving most, if not all south-east Asian countries, including Australia and New Zealand. Any solution must involve the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees. |
| Pope Francis says the best antidote to fear is mercy: ‘Mercy and courage are needed to respond to the huge wave of refugees, migrants and displaced people all over the world.’ And I agree with him. | Pope Francis says the best antidote to fear is mercy: ‘Mercy and courage are needed to respond to the huge wave of refugees, migrants and displaced people all over the world.’ And I agree with him. |
| Given the government has the numbers in the lower house, the amendment will not pass unless all crossbenchers support the bill and two government MPs cross the floor. | Given the government has the numbers in the lower house, the amendment will not pass unless all crossbenchers support the bill and two government MPs cross the floor. |
| Unlikely. | Unlikely. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 12.10am GMT | at 12.10am GMT |