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| Guardian Jakarta week – live | Guardian Jakarta week – live |
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| And relax... | |
| Thanks so much to everyone who contributed today and please keep sharing photos and stories with us throughout the week – here’s how. | |
| To ease you in to the Jakartan night-time, here’s a break from all the chaos: sunset pictures shared by our community on the Guardian Jakarta live Whatsapp list ... and tips on staying sane in the city’s non-stop traffic jams, from our Twitter followers. Bye from me! | |
| Tips to survive Jakarta’s traffic: leave your car and use @PT_TransJakarta instead! @guardiancities | |
| @guardiancities Watch some talkshows, listen to podcasts, and chew on snacks. Also see interesting things around you. #GuardianJakarta | |
| @guardiancities I usually read e-book in my tablet or smartphone or bring a novel book. I spend 5 hours a day in the traffic. | |
| @guardiancities Since the rise of motorbike ride apps I haven't driven my own car in over a year. #GuardianJakarta | |
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| 2.23pm GMT | 2.23pm GMT |
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| Sport gets the army treatment | Sport gets the army treatment |
| In May, Indonesian football finally had its ban lifted by world governing body Fifa (itself no stranger to controversy), after the national government agreed to stop interfering too much in the game’s affairs. Or something like that. | In May, Indonesian football finally had its ban lifted by world governing body Fifa (itself no stranger to controversy), after the national government agreed to stop interfering too much in the game’s affairs. Or something like that. |
| Then, earlier this month, the Football Association of Indonesia (known by its initials PSSI), elected a new president in Jakarta: Edy Rahmayadi, an army lieutenant general who is currently chief of the Army Strategic Reserve Command. | Then, earlier this month, the Football Association of Indonesia (known by its initials PSSI), elected a new president in Jakarta: Edy Rahmayadi, an army lieutenant general who is currently chief of the Army Strategic Reserve Command. |
| Meanwhile, in the world of badminton – which rivals football in the popularity stakes here – the Indonesian Badminton Federation only recently named its new leader: Wiranto, a retired army general who is thought to have his eye on the nation’s presidency. | Meanwhile, in the world of badminton – which rivals football in the popularity stakes here – the Indonesian Badminton Federation only recently named its new leader: Wiranto, a retired army general who is thought to have his eye on the nation’s presidency. |
| Coincidence? Well, the appointments certainly reminds one of sport in the Suharto era, when soldiers often ran such organisations. However, after lengthy allegations of corruption and mismanagement at the PSSI, these elections are being interpreted simply as a vote for stability and trust ... something Fifa itself could do with in spades. | |
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| 2.03pm GMT | 2.03pm GMT |
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| Oliver Holmes | Oliver Holmes |
| Fishermen need friends | Fishermen need friends |
| At the port. These are the large boats that spend 3 days docked and 3 months at sea. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/zl0Zk1iImO | At the port. These are the large boats that spend 3 days docked and 3 months at sea. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/zl0Zk1iImO |
| I visited the port at the northern-most tip of the city this afternoon. The fishermen here, about 15 per boat, say they go out for two to three months and then spend a couple days onshore to offload fish and make repairs. | I visited the port at the northern-most tip of the city this afternoon. The fishermen here, about 15 per boat, say they go out for two to three months and then spend a couple days onshore to offload fish and make repairs. |
| Boat tour. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/X0mqN4CNuY | Boat tour. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/X0mqN4CNuY |
| A big issue for the smaller-scale fishermen is a reclamation project that is currently on hold but with plans to develop 17 Dubai-style islands, with luxury developments on top. | A big issue for the smaller-scale fishermen is a reclamation project that is currently on hold but with plans to develop 17 Dubai-style islands, with luxury developments on top. |
| Tahir, a 62-year-old former fisherman who now owns a restaurant, says several fishing neighbourhoods near the port have already been destroyed to make way for a park. | Tahir, a 62-year-old former fisherman who now owns a restaurant, says several fishing neighbourhoods near the port have already been destroyed to make way for a park. |
| Tahir, 62. Likes fish. Dislikes reclaimation. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/dFV6LBWLog | Tahir, 62. Likes fish. Dislikes reclaimation. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/dFV6LBWLog |
| He’s concerned about other fishing communities affected by the reclamation. Some living on islands will be moved off and the works could lessen the daily catch, he says. | He’s concerned about other fishing communities affected by the reclamation. Some living on islands will be moved off and the works could lessen the daily catch, he says. |
| “But the government can push it through. Who can beat the government?” | “But the government can push it through. Who can beat the government?” |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 2.08pm GMT | at 2.08pm GMT |
| 1.46pm GMT | 1.46pm GMT |
| 13:46 | 13:46 |
| The future of Jakarta | The future of Jakarta |
| Some highlights from tonight’s Jakarta at 30 Million debate … | Some highlights from tonight’s Jakarta at 30 Million debate … |
| "Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8 | "Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8 |
| "You say you hate cars. So why do you people buy so many cars?" Comedian David Koropitan at #GuardianJakarta live event pic.twitter.com/ZWvwMW37YD | "You say you hate cars. So why do you people buy so many cars?" Comedian David Koropitan at #GuardianJakarta live event pic.twitter.com/ZWvwMW37YD |
| "80% of Jakartans think they have access to clean water -when actually only 40% do" - @evimsofian #GuardianJakarta | "80% of Jakartans think they have access to clean water -when actually only 40% do" - @evimsofian #GuardianJakarta |
| 1.24pm GMT | 1.24pm GMT |
| 13:24 | 13:24 |
| Mike Herd | Mike Herd |
| Jakarta’s hooliganism problem | Jakarta’s hooliganism problem |
| Our collaboration with Tempo has also borne fruit in the shape of a fascinating investigation by their reporter, Larissa Huda, into the ongoing issue of football hooliganism in Jakarta. | Our collaboration with Tempo has also borne fruit in the shape of a fascinating investigation by their reporter, Larissa Huda, into the ongoing issue of football hooliganism in Jakarta. |
| Larissa’s report reveals the stories behind a number of chilling incidents between ‘Jakmania’ – as supporters of the capital’s leading football club, Persija, are known – and other fans, as well as the police. Since the Indonesian Football League started in 1993-1994, at least 54 football-related deaths were found to have occurred. | Larissa’s report reveals the stories behind a number of chilling incidents between ‘Jakmania’ – as supporters of the capital’s leading football club, Persija, are known – and other fans, as well as the police. Since the Indonesian Football League started in 1993-1994, at least 54 football-related deaths were found to have occurred. |
| Larissa also visits one of Jakmania’s strongholds – the district of Manggarai, also known as ‘Jakarta’s ghetto’ – to try to better understand the deep-rooted social factors that can trigger hooliganism, and asks what, if anything, can be done to eradicate this vicious, sometimes deadly violence from the game. | Larissa also visits one of Jakmania’s strongholds – the district of Manggarai, also known as ‘Jakarta’s ghetto’ – to try to better understand the deep-rooted social factors that can trigger hooliganism, and asks what, if anything, can be done to eradicate this vicious, sometimes deadly violence from the game. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 1.28pm GMT | at 1.28pm GMT |
| 12.29pm GMT | 12.29pm GMT |
| 12:29 | 12:29 |
| Francesca Perry | Francesca Perry |
| Share your favourite view of Jakarta | Share your favourite view of Jakarta |
| Jakarta is quite a flat city: there aren’t steep streets or hillside neighbourhoods. So where do you go to get a great view over the city? Share your photos of your favourite views in Jakarta and where you can see them from. You can share pictures on Twitter and Instagram using the hashtag #GuardianJakarta or Whatsapp us on +447881337758.Jakarta adalah kota yang rata: tidak ada jalan yang curam atau lingkungan yang berbukit. Jadi di mana kamu pergi untuk mendapatkan pemandangan kota ini? Bagi foto-foto pemandangan Jakarta favoritmu dan di mana kamu bisa melihatnya. Kamu bisa bagi lewat Twitter dan Instagram dengan tagar #GuardianJakarta atau Whatsapp kami di +447881337758. | Jakarta is quite a flat city: there aren’t steep streets or hillside neighbourhoods. So where do you go to get a great view over the city? Share your photos of your favourite views in Jakarta and where you can see them from. You can share pictures on Twitter and Instagram using the hashtag #GuardianJakarta or Whatsapp us on +447881337758.Jakarta adalah kota yang rata: tidak ada jalan yang curam atau lingkungan yang berbukit. Jadi di mana kamu pergi untuk mendapatkan pemandangan kota ini? Bagi foto-foto pemandangan Jakarta favoritmu dan di mana kamu bisa melihatnya. Kamu bisa bagi lewat Twitter dan Instagram dengan tagar #GuardianJakarta atau Whatsapp kami di +447881337758. |
| 12.05pm GMT | 12.05pm GMT |
| 12:05 | 12:05 |
| Kate Lamb | Kate Lamb |
| Magic moments | Magic moments |
| I just finished a meeting with M’bah P’ea Ki Nogo Koro, a self proclaimed dukun, or witchdoctor. Each week, he says, he receives dozens of customers seeking help with their love life, or remedies for problems with their health or career. | I just finished a meeting with M’bah P’ea Ki Nogo Koro, a self proclaimed dukun, or witchdoctor. Each week, he says, he receives dozens of customers seeking help with their love life, or remedies for problems with their health or career. |
| The 33-year-old cleanses people’s auras and gives them medicines to take. He has practised white magic for 18 years and gets custom through word of mouth. | The 33-year-old cleanses people’s auras and gives them medicines to take. He has practised white magic for 18 years and gets custom through word of mouth. |
| M'bah P'ea Ki Nogo Rogo at his home, with ondel ondel, a traditional Betawi puppet in the background. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/myrNVpnv4q | M'bah P'ea Ki Nogo Rogo at his home, with ondel ondel, a traditional Betawi puppet in the background. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/myrNVpnv4q |
| I met M’bah P’ea to ask him about the government’s plans to introduce more stringent penalties for the use of black magic, which is used for malignant purposes. | I met M’bah P’ea to ask him about the government’s plans to introduce more stringent penalties for the use of black magic, which is used for malignant purposes. |
| “With ilmu [magic] there is the black and the white kind and I only use white,” he says. | “With ilmu [magic] there is the black and the white kind and I only use white,” he says. |
| 11.30am GMT | 11.30am GMT |
| 11:30 | 11:30 |
| Kate Lamb | Kate Lamb |
| Don’t rain on my parade … | Don’t rain on my parade … |
| Jakartans and Indonesians can be superstitious. That’s where dukun, or witchdoctors, mystics and paranormals come in. Advertising their services in the local papers across Jakarta, local paranormals say they can ward off black magic, heal lunacy, cleanse your aura, or that of your home or office. Oh, and for important events, a wedding or film shoot for example, people also hire pawan hujan, or rainstoppers, to make sure it doesn’t rain on your event … | Jakartans and Indonesians can be superstitious. That’s where dukun, or witchdoctors, mystics and paranormals come in. Advertising their services in the local papers across Jakarta, local paranormals say they can ward off black magic, heal lunacy, cleanse your aura, or that of your home or office. Oh, and for important events, a wedding or film shoot for example, people also hire pawan hujan, or rainstoppers, to make sure it doesn’t rain on your event … |
| Although there are more Muslims in Indonesia than any other country in the world – there are six official religions – many pre-Islamic, animist beliefs and superstitions coexist with modern life and religion. | Although there are more Muslims in Indonesia than any other country in the world – there are six official religions – many pre-Islamic, animist beliefs and superstitions coexist with modern life and religion. |
| And that includes the elite too. Former president Suharto, who led the country for more than three decades until 1998, was himself a committed mystic, known to regularly visit sacred caves and tombs believed to hold special powers. | And that includes the elite too. Former president Suharto, who led the country for more than three decades until 1998, was himself a committed mystic, known to regularly visit sacred caves and tombs believed to hold special powers. |
| Black magic of ilmu hitam is already illegal in Indonesia, but the Indonesian parliament plans to bring in harsher penalties, including for people who merely declare or promise they have black magic skills that can cause sickness, death, or physical and mental illness. The amended law would make such a crime punishable by a maximum of five years in prison. | Black magic of ilmu hitam is already illegal in Indonesia, but the Indonesian parliament plans to bring in harsher penalties, including for people who merely declare or promise they have black magic skills that can cause sickness, death, or physical and mental illness. The amended law would make such a crime punishable by a maximum of five years in prison. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 11.33am GMT | at 11.33am GMT |
| 11.06am GMT | 11.06am GMT |
| 11:06 | 11:06 |
| David Munk | David Munk |
| Two feet/wheels good | Two feet/wheels good |
| The every-form-of-transport-in-one-afternoon mission draws to a close … | The every-form-of-transport-in-one-afternoon mission draws to a close … |
| Trip 7. New form of transport through Jakarta. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/WPEJm062RX | Trip 7. New form of transport through Jakarta. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/WPEJm062RX |
| And finally trip 8. On two wheels. Go Jek heading toward a well earned refreshment. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/CWvB5S6hFQ | And finally trip 8. On two wheels. Go Jek heading toward a well earned refreshment. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/CWvB5S6hFQ |
| 10.39am GMT | 10.39am GMT |
| 10:39 | 10:39 |
| Francesca Perry | Francesca Perry |
| Get snapping! | Get snapping! |
| For our week of reporting from Jakarta, we’ve asked a team of great Instagrammers (including @sam_otitt, @indostreets, @liewielliam and @aditpk) to take photos all around the city and tag them with #GuardianJakarta. Tag your own photos of the Indonesian capital this week and a selection will be featured in a gallery on Guardian Cities. | For our week of reporting from Jakarta, we’ve asked a team of great Instagrammers (including @sam_otitt, @indostreets, @liewielliam and @aditpk) to take photos all around the city and tag them with #GuardianJakarta. Tag your own photos of the Indonesian capital this week and a selection will be featured in a gallery on Guardian Cities. |
| We also have the brilliant @ijoeel taking over our Instagram account to give his own unique view of the city. Follow the action @guardiancities! | We also have the brilliant @ijoeel taking over our Instagram account to give his own unique view of the city. Follow the action @guardiancities! |
| 9.53am GMT | 9.53am GMT |
| 09:53 | 09:53 |
| The Jakarta conundrum | The Jakarta conundrum |
| Leading urbanist Marco Kusumawijaya of the city’s Rujak Centre explains the key struggle for Jakartans: how to imagine the future of their city. | Leading urbanist Marco Kusumawijaya of the city’s Rujak Centre explains the key struggle for Jakartans: how to imagine the future of their city. |
| Unlike other megalopolises across the world, and in sharp contrast to the trend of global urbanisation, more people are actually leaving Jakarta than arriving. The city’s net migration rate has been negative since at least 1990. | Unlike other megalopolises across the world, and in sharp contrast to the trend of global urbanisation, more people are actually leaving Jakarta than arriving. The city’s net migration rate has been negative since at least 1990. |
| Imagining a future for this chaotic metropolis is very difficult for most people who live and work here. If they imagine anything, it’s to detach their own future from the city. | Imagining a future for this chaotic metropolis is very difficult for most people who live and work here. If they imagine anything, it’s to detach their own future from the city. |
| Read his piece here – and tune in at 7pm for a livestream of the Guardian Cities and Rujak Centre live panel discussion: Jakarta at 30 Million | Read his piece here – and tune in at 7pm for a livestream of the Guardian Cities and Rujak Centre live panel discussion: Jakarta at 30 Million |
| Tidak seperti megalopolitan di berbagai belahan dunia, dan berbeda dari tren urbanisasi global, lebih banyak orang meninggalkan Jakarta ketimbang pindah ke kota ini. Angka bersih migrasi ke Jakarta menunjukkan nilai negatif sejak 1990. | Tidak seperti megalopolitan di berbagai belahan dunia, dan berbeda dari tren urbanisasi global, lebih banyak orang meninggalkan Jakarta ketimbang pindah ke kota ini. Angka bersih migrasi ke Jakarta menunjukkan nilai negatif sejak 1990. |
| Amat sulit bagi mereka yang tinggal dan bekerja di Jakarta untuk membayangkan masa depan metropolitan yang semrawut ini. Jika mereka merenungkan masa depan, yang kerap terpikir adalah meninggalkan kota ini. | Amat sulit bagi mereka yang tinggal dan bekerja di Jakarta untuk membayangkan masa depan metropolitan yang semrawut ini. Jika mereka merenungkan masa depan, yang kerap terpikir adalah meninggalkan kota ini. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 9.53am GMT | at 9.53am GMT |