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Guardian Jakarta week live – one day in the life of a megalopolis Guardian Jakarta week live – one day in the life of a megalopolis
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Chris MichaelChris Michael
That’s it from us for today – we’ve enjoyed hearing all your wise and hilarious suggestions (yes, I’ll definitely try eating the artificial foam food, what a good idea), and hope you enjoy the rest of the content we’ve got planned for this week ... which starts tomorrow with Philip Sherwell’s expose, months in the making, on what must be the most ambitious project on earth to stop a city from literally sinking into the ocean: the Great Sea Wall...That’s it from us for today – we’ve enjoyed hearing all your wise and hilarious suggestions (yes, I’ll definitely try eating the artificial foam food, what a good idea), and hope you enjoy the rest of the content we’ve got planned for this week ... which starts tomorrow with Philip Sherwell’s expose, months in the making, on what must be the most ambitious project on earth to stop a city from literally sinking into the ocean: the Great Sea Wall...
In the meantime, notwithstanding some brilliant and edifying updates from around the city from our correspondents David Munk, Kate Lamb and Jamie Wilson, I leave the last word to south-east Asia correspondent Oliver Holmes, who just wins on style. That’s it from the Guardian Cities team, see you tomorrow.In the meantime, notwithstanding some brilliant and edifying updates from around the city from our correspondents David Munk, Kate Lamb and Jamie Wilson, I leave the last word to south-east Asia correspondent Oliver Holmes, who just wins on style. That’s it from the Guardian Cities team, see you tomorrow.
I found one way to avoid Jakarta traffic... #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/aXDTRrsyY0I found one way to avoid Jakarta traffic... #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/aXDTRrsyY0
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Jakarta at 30 Million live event: "If Indonesia is dysfunctional, Jakarta is the neglected stepchild who learns to do everything herself"Jakarta at 30 Million live event: "If Indonesia is dysfunctional, Jakarta is the neglected stepchild who learns to do everything herself"
Chris MichaelChris Michael
Tonight’s sold-out event at the Goethe-Institut, brilliantly hosted by Marco Kusumawijaya, was a roaring success, one that felt at times more like a TV comedy variety show – due in no small part to David Nurbianto, the 26-year-old comedian who was a fountain of wit and wisdom.Tonight’s sold-out event at the Goethe-Institut, brilliantly hosted by Marco Kusumawijaya, was a roaring success, one that felt at times more like a TV comedy variety show – due in no small part to David Nurbianto, the 26-year-old comedian who was a fountain of wit and wisdom.
As David said, Jakarta is suffering from an identity crisis, its Betawi roots lost – “Even on the rare occasion that we have a smart Betawi like JJ Rizal [the historian and fellow guest], we stereotype him as being less good” – and he urged Jakartans to learn about their history and beware their civic duty. “People come to Jakarta only to earn money, but I hope they don’t just exploit the city and then leave because they can afford to live somewhere else nice. What about us, who have an emotional connection to Jakarta? Where can we go if they ruin it for us?”As David said, Jakarta is suffering from an identity crisis, its Betawi roots lost – “Even on the rare occasion that we have a smart Betawi like JJ Rizal [the historian and fellow guest], we stereotype him as being less good” – and he urged Jakartans to learn about their history and beware their civic duty. “People come to Jakarta only to earn money, but I hope they don’t just exploit the city and then leave because they can afford to live somewhere else nice. What about us, who have an emotional connection to Jakarta? Where can we go if they ruin it for us?”
Gugun Muhammad, meanwhile, whose kampung cleanup project David Munk wrote about earlier in this blog, brought down the house with his rousing calls for the poor to rise up.Gugun Muhammad, meanwhile, whose kampung cleanup project David Munk wrote about earlier in this blog, brought down the house with his rousing calls for the poor to rise up.
“Jakarta now is like Seoul in the 1970s,” he said, citing the Cheonggyecheon river revitalisation that has transformed it into a thriving destination. “Here, people get sick and die alone in apartments because everyone’s cut off from community. The only way to improve the city is for people to get together, to organise, to form a urban villages. Who care about the city – the people or the government?”“Jakarta now is like Seoul in the 1970s,” he said, citing the Cheonggyecheon river revitalisation that has transformed it into a thriving destination. “Here, people get sick and die alone in apartments because everyone’s cut off from community. The only way to improve the city is for people to get together, to organise, to form a urban villages. Who care about the city – the people or the government?”
Evi Mariani, the Jakarta Post city editor whose assistance to Guardian Cities has proven absolutely invaluable so far this week, put the boot into Jakartans’ shallow imagination.Evi Mariani, the Jakarta Post city editor whose assistance to Guardian Cities has proven absolutely invaluable so far this week, put the boot into Jakartans’ shallow imagination.
“Why do we always look to Singapore as the model? Why is that our dream, the only way we think a good city can look?” She explained she was worried about a life for her 3-year-old son, Kun-Kun. “I want to send him to a secular school, but the only ones are private and too expensive – and so I worry he won’t have the diverse background I want for him. I can’t imagine the future: it makes me depressed.”“Why do we always look to Singapore as the model? Why is that our dream, the only way we think a good city can look?” She explained she was worried about a life for her 3-year-old son, Kun-Kun. “I want to send him to a secular school, but the only ones are private and too expensive – and so I worry he won’t have the diverse background I want for him. I can’t imagine the future: it makes me depressed.”
"Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8"Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8
Kartika Jahja, musician and cafe owner (who Mike Herd interviewed earlier in this blog) agreed. “If Indonesia is a dysfunctional family, then Jakarta is the neglected stepchild. We’ll never get any help from above – so we’ve had to get used to doing everything ourselves. When there’s an accident, do we call the cops? No. When there’s a theft, we hit the perpetrator ourselves. Because government is dysfunctional, Jakartans have had to develop a DIY culture.”Kartika Jahja, musician and cafe owner (who Mike Herd interviewed earlier in this blog) agreed. “If Indonesia is a dysfunctional family, then Jakarta is the neglected stepchild. We’ll never get any help from above – so we’ve had to get used to doing everything ourselves. When there’s an accident, do we call the cops? No. When there’s a theft, we hit the perpetrator ourselves. Because government is dysfunctional, Jakartans have had to develop a DIY culture.”
Amid all the clear-eyed (if slightly grim) reality, environmental scientist Alan Koropitan added a rare positive note, pointing out that Vietnamese cities’ efforts to turn their waterfronts into tourist attractions and economic drivers could be replicated in Jakarta ... if only the authorities don’t screw up the Great Seawall project. (More on that tomorrow.)Amid all the clear-eyed (if slightly grim) reality, environmental scientist Alan Koropitan added a rare positive note, pointing out that Vietnamese cities’ efforts to turn their waterfronts into tourist attractions and economic drivers could be replicated in Jakarta ... if only the authorities don’t screw up the Great Seawall project. (More on that tomorrow.)
And Ign Susiadi Wibowo, whose vision of a “zero waste” Jakarta seems a long way off, pointed out at that these things often do. “We just start with ourselves: could you live without a bin for two weeks? What would you do differently?”And Ign Susiadi Wibowo, whose vision of a “zero waste” Jakarta seems a long way off, pointed out at that these things often do. “We just start with ourselves: could you live without a bin for two weeks? What would you do differently?”
To a final question from the audience asking what kind of leader Jakarta needed, Marco concluded the panel by bringing down the house:To a final question from the audience asking what kind of leader Jakarta needed, Marco concluded the panel by bringing down the house:
“Haven’t you been listening? Everything we’ve said here today has answered that question – Jakarta doesn’t need any leader at all!”“Haven’t you been listening? Everything we’ve said here today has answered that question – Jakarta doesn’t need any leader at all!”
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And relax...And relax...
Thanks so much to everyone who contributed today and please keep sharing photos and stories with us throughout the week – here’s how.Thanks so much to everyone who contributed today and please keep sharing photos and stories with us throughout the week – here’s how.
To ease you in to the Jakartan night-time, here’s a break from all the chaos: sunset pictures shared by our community on the Guardian Jakarta live Whatsapp list ... and tips on staying sane in the city’s non-stop traffic jams, from our Twitter followers. Bye from me! To ease you in to the Jakartan night-time, here’s a break from all the chaos: sunset pictures shared by our community on the Guardian Jakarta live Whatsapp list ... and tips on staying sane in the city’s non-stop traffic jams, or avoiding them altogether, from our Twitter followers. Bye from me!
Tips to survive Jakarta’s traffic: leave your car and use @PT_TransJakarta instead! @guardiancitiesTips to survive Jakarta’s traffic: leave your car and use @PT_TransJakarta instead! @guardiancities
@guardiancities Watch some talkshows, listen to podcasts, and chew on snacks. Also see interesting things around you. #GuardianJakarta@guardiancities Watch some talkshows, listen to podcasts, and chew on snacks. Also see interesting things around you. #GuardianJakarta
@guardiancities I usually read e-book in my tablet or smartphone or bring a novel book. I spend 5 hours a day in the traffic.@guardiancities I usually read e-book in my tablet or smartphone or bring a novel book. I spend 5 hours a day in the traffic.
@guardiancities Ojek+commuter train+Ojek. Listen to radio while waiting. OR go to nearest pub/coffee shop & wait till traffic subsides.
@guardiancities Since the rise of motorbike ride apps I haven't driven my own car in over a year. #GuardianJakarta@guardiancities Since the rise of motorbike ride apps I haven't driven my own car in over a year. #GuardianJakarta
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Sport gets the army treatmentSport gets the army treatment
In May, Indonesian football finally had its ban lifted by world governing body Fifa (itself no stranger to controversy), after the national government agreed to stop interfering too much in the game’s affairs. Or something like that.In May, Indonesian football finally had its ban lifted by world governing body Fifa (itself no stranger to controversy), after the national government agreed to stop interfering too much in the game’s affairs. Or something like that.
Then, earlier this month, the Football Association of Indonesia (known by its initials PSSI), elected a new president in Jakarta: Edy Rahmayadi, an army lieutenant general who is currently chief of the Army Strategic Reserve Command.Then, earlier this month, the Football Association of Indonesia (known by its initials PSSI), elected a new president in Jakarta: Edy Rahmayadi, an army lieutenant general who is currently chief of the Army Strategic Reserve Command.
Meanwhile, in the world of badminton – which rivals football in the popularity stakes here – the Indonesian Badminton Federation only recently named its new leader: Wiranto, a retired army general who is thought to have his eye on the nation’s presidency.Meanwhile, in the world of badminton – which rivals football in the popularity stakes here – the Indonesian Badminton Federation only recently named its new leader: Wiranto, a retired army general who is thought to have his eye on the nation’s presidency.
Coincidence? Well, the appointments certainly reminds one of sport in the Suharto era, when soldiers often ran such organisations. However, after lengthy allegations of corruption and mismanagement at the PSSI, these elections are being interpreted simply as a vote for stability and trust ... something Fifa itself could do with in spades. Gadi Makitan and Mike HerdCoincidence? Well, the appointments certainly reminds one of sport in the Suharto era, when soldiers often ran such organisations. However, after lengthy allegations of corruption and mismanagement at the PSSI, these elections are being interpreted simply as a vote for stability and trust ... something Fifa itself could do with in spades. Gadi Makitan and Mike Herd
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Fishermen need friendsFishermen need friends
At the port. These are the large boats that spend 3 days docked and 3 months at sea. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/zl0Zk1iImOAt the port. These are the large boats that spend 3 days docked and 3 months at sea. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/zl0Zk1iImO
I visited the port at the northern-most tip of the city this afternoon. The fishermen here, about 15 per boat, say they go out for two to three months and then spend a couple days onshore to offload fish and make repairs.I visited the port at the northern-most tip of the city this afternoon. The fishermen here, about 15 per boat, say they go out for two to three months and then spend a couple days onshore to offload fish and make repairs.
Boat tour. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/X0mqN4CNuYBoat tour. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/X0mqN4CNuY
A big issue for the smaller-scale fishermen is a reclamation project that is currently on hold but with plans to develop 17 Dubai-style islands, with luxury developments on top.A big issue for the smaller-scale fishermen is a reclamation project that is currently on hold but with plans to develop 17 Dubai-style islands, with luxury developments on top.
Tahir, a 62-year-old former fisherman who now owns a restaurant, says several fishing neighbourhoods near the port have already been destroyed to make way for a park.Tahir, a 62-year-old former fisherman who now owns a restaurant, says several fishing neighbourhoods near the port have already been destroyed to make way for a park.
Tahir, 62. Likes fish. Dislikes reclaimation. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/dFV6LBWLogTahir, 62. Likes fish. Dislikes reclaimation. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/dFV6LBWLog
He’s concerned about other fishing communities affected by the reclamation. Some living on islands will be moved off and the works could lessen the daily catch, he says.He’s concerned about other fishing communities affected by the reclamation. Some living on islands will be moved off and the works could lessen the daily catch, he says.
“But the government can push it through. Who can beat the government?”“But the government can push it through. Who can beat the government?”
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The future of JakartaThe future of Jakarta
Some highlights from tonight’s Jakarta at 30 Million debate …Some highlights from tonight’s Jakarta at 30 Million debate …
"Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8"Jakarta is a stressful city. But you always want to come back despite its insanity" - @kartikajahja #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/DI9SyFwxb8
"You say you hate cars. So why do you people buy so many cars?" Comedian David Koropitan at #GuardianJakarta live event pic.twitter.com/ZWvwMW37YD"You say you hate cars. So why do you people buy so many cars?" Comedian David Koropitan at #GuardianJakarta live event pic.twitter.com/ZWvwMW37YD
"80% of Jakartans think they have access to clean water -when actually only 40% do" - @evimsofian #GuardianJakarta"80% of Jakartans think they have access to clean water -when actually only 40% do" - @evimsofian #GuardianJakarta
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Jakarta’s hooliganism problemJakarta’s hooliganism problem
Our collaboration with Tempo has also borne fruit in the shape of a fascinating investigation by their reporter, Larissa Huda, into the ongoing issue of football hooliganism in Jakarta.Our collaboration with Tempo has also borne fruit in the shape of a fascinating investigation by their reporter, Larissa Huda, into the ongoing issue of football hooliganism in Jakarta.
Larissa’s report reveals the stories behind a number of chilling incidents between ‘Jakmania’ – as supporters of the capital’s leading football club, Persija, are known – and other fans, as well as the police. Since the Indonesian Football League started in 1993-1994, at least 54 football-related deaths were found to have occurred.Larissa’s report reveals the stories behind a number of chilling incidents between ‘Jakmania’ – as supporters of the capital’s leading football club, Persija, are known – and other fans, as well as the police. Since the Indonesian Football League started in 1993-1994, at least 54 football-related deaths were found to have occurred.
Larissa also visits one of Jakmania’s strongholds – the district of Manggarai, also known as ‘Jakarta’s ghetto’ – to try to better understand the deep-rooted social factors that can trigger hooliganism, and asks what, if anything, can be done to eradicate this vicious, sometimes deadly violence from the game.Larissa also visits one of Jakmania’s strongholds – the district of Manggarai, also known as ‘Jakarta’s ghetto’ – to try to better understand the deep-rooted social factors that can trigger hooliganism, and asks what, if anything, can be done to eradicate this vicious, sometimes deadly violence from the game.
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Share your favourite view of JakartaShare your favourite view of Jakarta
Jakarta is quite a flat city: there aren’t steep streets or hillside neighbourhoods. So where do you go to get a great view over the city? Share your photos of your favourite views in Jakarta and where you can see them from. You can share pictures on Twitter and Instagram using the hashtag #GuardianJakarta or Whatsapp us on +447881337758.Jakarta adalah kota yang rata: tidak ada jalan yang curam atau lingkungan yang berbukit. Jadi di mana kamu pergi untuk mendapatkan pemandangan kota ini? Bagi foto-foto pemandangan Jakarta favoritmu dan di mana kamu bisa melihatnya. Kamu bisa bagi lewat Twitter dan Instagram dengan tagar #GuardianJakarta atau Whatsapp kami di +447881337758.Jakarta is quite a flat city: there aren’t steep streets or hillside neighbourhoods. So where do you go to get a great view over the city? Share your photos of your favourite views in Jakarta and where you can see them from. You can share pictures on Twitter and Instagram using the hashtag #GuardianJakarta or Whatsapp us on +447881337758.Jakarta adalah kota yang rata: tidak ada jalan yang curam atau lingkungan yang berbukit. Jadi di mana kamu pergi untuk mendapatkan pemandangan kota ini? Bagi foto-foto pemandangan Jakarta favoritmu dan di mana kamu bisa melihatnya. Kamu bisa bagi lewat Twitter dan Instagram dengan tagar #GuardianJakarta atau Whatsapp kami di +447881337758.
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Kate LambKate Lamb
Magic momentsMagic moments
I just finished a meeting with M’bah P’ea Ki Nogo Koro, a self proclaimed dukun, or witchdoctor. Each week, he says, he receives dozens of customers seeking help with their love life, or remedies for problems with their health or career.I just finished a meeting with M’bah P’ea Ki Nogo Koro, a self proclaimed dukun, or witchdoctor. Each week, he says, he receives dozens of customers seeking help with their love life, or remedies for problems with their health or career.
The 33-year-old cleanses people’s auras and gives them medicines to take. He has practised white magic for 18 years and gets custom through word of mouth.The 33-year-old cleanses people’s auras and gives them medicines to take. He has practised white magic for 18 years and gets custom through word of mouth.
M'bah P'ea Ki Nogo Rogo at his home, with ondel ondel, a traditional Betawi puppet in the background. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/myrNVpnv4qM'bah P'ea Ki Nogo Rogo at his home, with ondel ondel, a traditional Betawi puppet in the background. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/myrNVpnv4q
I met M’bah P’ea to ask him about the government’s plans to introduce more stringent penalties for the use of black magic, which is used for malignant purposes.I met M’bah P’ea to ask him about the government’s plans to introduce more stringent penalties for the use of black magic, which is used for malignant purposes.
“With ilmu [magic] there is the black and the white kind and I only use white,” he says.“With ilmu [magic] there is the black and the white kind and I only use white,” he says.
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Kate LambKate Lamb
Don’t rain on my parade …Don’t rain on my parade …
Jakartans and Indonesians can be superstitious. That’s where dukun, or witchdoctors, mystics and paranormals come in. Advertising their services in the local papers across Jakarta, local paranormals say they can ward off black magic, heal lunacy, cleanse your aura, or that of your home or office. Oh, and for important events, a wedding or film shoot for example, people also hire pawan hujan, or rainstoppers, to make sure it doesn’t rain on your event …Jakartans and Indonesians can be superstitious. That’s where dukun, or witchdoctors, mystics and paranormals come in. Advertising their services in the local papers across Jakarta, local paranormals say they can ward off black magic, heal lunacy, cleanse your aura, or that of your home or office. Oh, and for important events, a wedding or film shoot for example, people also hire pawan hujan, or rainstoppers, to make sure it doesn’t rain on your event …
Although there are more Muslims in Indonesia than any other country in the world – there are six official religions – many pre-Islamic, animist beliefs and superstitions coexist with modern life and religion.Although there are more Muslims in Indonesia than any other country in the world – there are six official religions – many pre-Islamic, animist beliefs and superstitions coexist with modern life and religion.
And that includes the elite too. Former president Suharto, who led the country for more than three decades until 1998, was himself a committed mystic, known to regularly visit sacred caves and tombs believed to hold special powers.And that includes the elite too. Former president Suharto, who led the country for more than three decades until 1998, was himself a committed mystic, known to regularly visit sacred caves and tombs believed to hold special powers.
Black magic of ilmu hitam is already illegal in Indonesia, but the Indonesian parliament plans to bring in harsher penalties, including for people who merely declare or promise they have black magic skills that can cause sickness, death, or physical and mental illness. The amended law would make such a crime punishable by a maximum of five years in prison.Black magic of ilmu hitam is already illegal in Indonesia, but the Indonesian parliament plans to bring in harsher penalties, including for people who merely declare or promise they have black magic skills that can cause sickness, death, or physical and mental illness. The amended law would make such a crime punishable by a maximum of five years in prison.
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David MunkDavid Munk
Two feet/wheels goodTwo feet/wheels good
The every-form-of-transport-in-one-afternoon mission draws to a close …The every-form-of-transport-in-one-afternoon mission draws to a close …
Trip 7. New form of transport through Jakarta. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/WPEJm062RXTrip 7. New form of transport through Jakarta. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/WPEJm062RX
And finally trip 8. On two wheels. Go Jek heading toward a well earned refreshment. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/CWvB5S6hFQAnd finally trip 8. On two wheels. Go Jek heading toward a well earned refreshment. #GuardianJakarta pic.twitter.com/CWvB5S6hFQ
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Francesca PerryFrancesca Perry
Get snapping!Get snapping!
For our week of reporting from Jakarta, we’ve asked a team of great Instagrammers (including @sam_otitt, @indostreets, @liewielliam and @aditpk) to take photos all around the city and tag them with #GuardianJakarta. Tag your own photos of the Indonesian capital this week and a selection will be featured in a gallery on Guardian Cities.For our week of reporting from Jakarta, we’ve asked a team of great Instagrammers (including @sam_otitt, @indostreets, @liewielliam and @aditpk) to take photos all around the city and tag them with #GuardianJakarta. Tag your own photos of the Indonesian capital this week and a selection will be featured in a gallery on Guardian Cities.
We also have the brilliant @ijoeel taking over our Instagram account to give his own unique view of the city. Follow the action @guardiancities!We also have the brilliant @ijoeel taking over our Instagram account to give his own unique view of the city. Follow the action @guardiancities!
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The Jakarta conundrumThe Jakarta conundrum
Leading urbanist Marco Kusumawijaya of the city’s Rujak Centre explains the key struggle for Jakartans: how to imagine the future of their city.Leading urbanist Marco Kusumawijaya of the city’s Rujak Centre explains the key struggle for Jakartans: how to imagine the future of their city.
Unlike other megalopolises across the world, and in sharp contrast to the trend of global urbanisation, more people are actually leaving Jakarta than arriving. The city’s net migration rate has been negative since at least 1990.Unlike other megalopolises across the world, and in sharp contrast to the trend of global urbanisation, more people are actually leaving Jakarta than arriving. The city’s net migration rate has been negative since at least 1990.
Imagining a future for this chaotic metropolis is very difficult for most people who live and work here. If they imagine anything, it’s to detach their own future from the city.Imagining a future for this chaotic metropolis is very difficult for most people who live and work here. If they imagine anything, it’s to detach their own future from the city.
Read his piece here – and tune in at 7pm for a livestream of the Guardian Cities and Rujak Centre live panel discussion: Jakarta at 30 MillionRead his piece here – and tune in at 7pm for a livestream of the Guardian Cities and Rujak Centre live panel discussion: Jakarta at 30 Million
Tidak seperti megalopolitan di berbagai belahan dunia, dan berbeda dari tren urbanisasi global, lebih banyak orang meninggalkan Jakarta ketimbang pindah ke kota ini. Angka bersih migrasi ke Jakarta menunjukkan nilai negatif sejak 1990.Tidak seperti megalopolitan di berbagai belahan dunia, dan berbeda dari tren urbanisasi global, lebih banyak orang meninggalkan Jakarta ketimbang pindah ke kota ini. Angka bersih migrasi ke Jakarta menunjukkan nilai negatif sejak 1990.
Amat sulit bagi mereka yang tinggal dan bekerja di Jakarta untuk membayangkan masa depan metropolitan yang semrawut ini. Jika mereka merenungkan masa depan, yang kerap terpikir adalah meninggalkan kota ini.Amat sulit bagi mereka yang tinggal dan bekerja di Jakarta untuk membayangkan masa depan metropolitan yang semrawut ini. Jika mereka merenungkan masa depan, yang kerap terpikir adalah meninggalkan kota ini.
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