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Malcolm Turnbull says Labor can't stand that Dutton 'succeeded where they failed' – politics live Malcolm Turnbull says Labor can't stand that Dutton 'succeeded where they failed' – question time
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Labor senator Glenn Sterle has asked minister for resources and Northern Australia, Matt Canavan, whether he supports the prime minister’s position that the import of Adler shotguns should be banned, given he had not voted on it last night.
Canavan replied:
I support the government’s position on the national firearms agreement,” which is not the same thing as supporting the ban on the Adler.
Canavan rattled off a bunch of things he was proud of: gun ownership laws, responsible gun use and its benefits. Everything but the Adler ban.
Canavan also recognised the “rights of individual senators to express their views, to have independent thoughts” and added he was “very proud to stand with my colleagues on all those issues”.
Given no Nationals voted for continuation of the Adler ban, it was not a ringing endorsement of Malcolm Turnbull’s position.
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Deputy PM Barnaby Joyce gets a government question on water.
Labor to Turnbull: Australian seafarers aboard the CSLBrisbane including Andrew Halliday from my electorate were made redundant by their foreign owned employer, Canada Steam Ship Lines. There are 457 visa holders working for the same company on a similar vessel off WA. Is it the case the Prime Minister is so focused on his own job, he has forgotten about the jobs of Australian seafarers who Andrew who is in the public gallery today?
Turnbull says 457 visas were never so high than when Bill Shorten was a minister. (Labor did tighten the laws in 2013).
Then Turnbull flicks to immigration minister Peter Dutton. He says they have started to consolidate the occupations allowed to come in under 457 visas, removing boarding kennel and cattery operators as well as goat farmers.
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In the lower house, Labor loses the final suspension vote.In the lower house, Labor loses the final suspension vote.
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Sarah Hanson-Young calls Dutton a "racist bigot", then forced to withdraw Sarah Hanson-Young calls Dutton a 'racist bigot', then forced to withdraw
In Senate question time Greens leader Richard Di Natale has asked attorney general George Brandis about immigration minister Peter Dutton’s comments that allowing generations of hardworking Lebanese immigrants to Australia was “a mistake”. In Senate question time, the Greens leader, Richard Di Natale, has asked the attorney general, George Brandis, about immigration minister Peter Dutton’s comments that allowing generations of hardworking Lebanese immigrants to Australia was “a mistake”.
Brandis backed Dutton in:Brandis backed Dutton in:
A more thoughtful or compassionate minister you will not find.A more thoughtful or compassionate minister you will not find.
The evidence? There are no children in detention, because of Peter Dutton. There are no drownings at sea, because of Peter Dutton.The evidence? There are no children in detention, because of Peter Dutton. There are no drownings at sea, because of Peter Dutton.
Di Natale raises several points of order that Brandis hadn’t addressed the part of his question about Dutton singling the Lebanese community out. The answer is relevant, the president rules.Di Natale raises several points of order that Brandis hadn’t addressed the part of his question about Dutton singling the Lebanese community out. The answer is relevant, the president rules.
Brandis then begins riffing on John Howard’s “we decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come” and Malcolm Turnbull’s claim the success of the migration program depends on control of the borders.Brandis then begins riffing on John Howard’s “we decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come” and Malcolm Turnbull’s claim the success of the migration program depends on control of the borders.
Sarah Hanson Young interjects, calling Dutton a “racist bigot”. Asked to withdraw, she at first refuses, then withdraws “for the sake of the chamber” but adds “honestly - I believe it”. Sarah Hanson Young interjects, calling Dutton a “racist bigot”. Asked to withdraw, she at first refuses, then withdraws “for the sake of the chamber” but adds “honestly – I believe it”.
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The government wins the second gag motion. Now they are voting to get on with the suspension vote.The government wins the second gag motion. Now they are voting to get on with the suspension vote.
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Government wins the gag, as expected.Government wins the gag, as expected.
Labor’s Tony Burke jumps up to second the motion.Labor’s Tony Burke jumps up to second the motion.
He can’t manage the parliament, the cabinet or the country.He can’t manage the parliament, the cabinet or the country.
Christopher Pyne moves to gag.Christopher Pyne moves to gag.
There is another vote on the gag motion.There is another vote on the gag motion.
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Shorten to Turnbull on Dutton. Dutton checks phone.Shorten to Turnbull on Dutton. Dutton checks phone.
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This is the Labor suspension motion.This is the Labor suspension motion.
That the House:That the House:
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The government moves to gag Bill Shorten. The House divides on the vote.The government moves to gag Bill Shorten. The House divides on the vote.
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Bill Shorten moves a suspension of standing orders on cabinet division, following the National party’s defection on the Adler gun ban.Bill Shorten moves a suspension of standing orders on cabinet division, following the National party’s defection on the Adler gun ban.
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Energy and environment minister Josh Frydenberg is asked about energy infrastructure and segues into ... ABCC. The energy and environment minister, Josh Frydenberg, is asked about energy infrastructure and segues into ... ABCC.
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Shorten to Turnbull: Clause 23 of the prime minister’s cabinet handbook states: “Cabinet ministers cannot disassociate themselves from or repudiate the decisions of their cabinet colleagues unless they resign from the cabinet.” It is the prime minister’s role to enforce cabinet solidarity. Given it is up to the prime minister to enforce cabinet solidarity, why hasn’t he sacked these three disloyal ministers? Is it that he genuinely believes their absence was a coincidence or is he just too weak to run his cabinet?
Turnbull quotes from Paul Kelly’s book regarding the Labor leadership fights of the past.
The distrust between Rudd and Shorten was enduring. It was weak and duplicitous, neither side trusted him and neither side revised his view. The Australian people won’t revise their view of him either.
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Sussan Ley, health minister, is asked about why the ABCC is needed to build hospitals, such as the
Adelaide Hospital which is the third most expensive building in the history of the world.
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Christopher Pyne gets an ABCC question.
Shorten to Turnbull: Given last night no member of the National party Senate team, no member of the National party Senate team voted to keep the government’s ban on the Adler shotgun and given that the prime minister has just confirmed that the deputy prime minister and leader of the National party backed the ban in the cabinet, does the prime minister’s deputy still support the ban on the importation of the Adler shotgun and if so, why did none of his team in the Senate back up the cabinet decision?
The Speaker rules the question is out of order because it relates to another party of which he is not a member.
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Shorten to Turnbull: I refer to the prime minister’s previous answer about his missing National cabinet ministers. How can the prime minister claim the absence of all three National party cabinet ministers in the Senate was insignificant when Senator Leyonhjelm has confirmed to Sky News that these cabinet ministers deliberately refused to back the cabinet position because they didn’t agree with it?
Turnbull repeats that the Adler ban is cabinet policy and has been extended until the states agree on a classification.
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Treasurer Scott Morrison gets a government question on ... registered orgs.
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Andrew Wilkie to Christopher Pyne, defence industry minister: The government is quick to say increased defence spending will provide an economic stimulus for states and regions in need of a boost. What tangible commitment can you now give that Tasmania will get its fair share of the work? Will Hobart’s Prince of Wales bay defence manufacturing precinct benefit from the as yet to be decided subcontract work on the C-11 offshore patrol vessel and the C 5,000 future frigates projects. Will you commit to vast Prince of Wales bay and meet the companies based there? Tasmania and Hobart need a boost too and there are many firms with the skills and advantages to help build and sustain Australia’s future defence needs.
Pyne says the work will be spread around the country but in Tassie:
Taylor Brothers, which is near the Prince of Wales precinct you talked about, has provided material for the air warfare destroy program. Things like refrigeration spaces and prefabricated doors. A business in Hobart has provided things to do with fire equipment and fire blankets for the Air Warfare Destroyer program.
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Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull: Clause 23 of the prime minister’s cabinet handbook states: “Members of the cabinet must publicly support all government decisions made in the cabinet even if they do not agree with them”. Has the prime minister disciplined the three cabinet ministers who took the unprecedented disloyal step of failing to vote for the cabinet position? Isn’t it clear this prime minister is so weak his government is so divided he can’t even keep his cabinet in line?
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Just on those questions about Nationals not voting for the gun ban, the following Liberal ministers did see fit to attend a “mickey” vote.
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There have been two government questions on registered orgs and unions.
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Labor to Turnbull: I refer to reports in the Herald Sun of a panicked two-hour-long extraordinary meeting of the National party last night. Following this meeting, for the first time in the history of Liberal national Coalitions, three Nationals ministers in the cabinet failed to vote for the cabinet position. What are the consequences in the prime minister’s government for cabinet ministers who fail to vote for the cabinet position?
I’m not a member of the Nats party room, says Turnbull.
My government, my cabinet, of which I am the prime minister and my colleague is the deputy prime minister, the leader of the Nationals resolve to extend indefinitely the ban on the Adler shotgun that had been previously subject to a sunset clause. That was a cabinet decision.
Except the National cabinet ministers did not publicly show support for that position. #justsaying
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