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Malcolm Turnbull praises Peter Dutton after 'Lebanese-Muslim' remarks – politics live Malcolm Turnbull praises Peter Dutton after 'Lebanese-Muslim' remarks – politics live
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Shorten to Turnbull: I refer to the Prime Minister’s previous answer about his missing National cabinet ministers.How can the Prime Minister claim the absence of all three National Party cabinet ministers in the Senate was insignificant when Senator Leyonhjelm has confirmed to Sky News that these cabinet ministers deliberately refused to back the cabinet position because they didn’t agree with it?
Turnbull repeats that the Adler ban is cabinet policy and has been extended until the states agree on a classification.
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Treasurer Scott Morrison gets a government question on ... registered orgs.
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Andrew Wilkie to Christopher Pyne, defence industry minister: The government is quick to say increased defence spending will provide an economic stimulus for states and regions in need of a boost. What tangible commitment can you now give that Tasmania will get its fair share of the work? Will Hobart’s Prince of Wales bay defence manufacturing precinct benefit from the as yet to be decided subcontract work on the C-11 offshore patrol vessel and the C 5,000 future frigates projects. Will you commit to vast Prince of Wales bay and meet the companies based there? Tasmania and Hobart need a boost too and there are many firms with the skills and advantages to help build and sustain Australia’s future defence needs.
Pyne says the work will be spread around the country but in Tassie:
Taylor Brothers, which is near the Prince of Wales precinct you talked about, has provided material for the air warfare destroy program. Things like refrigeration spaces and prefabricated doors. A business in Hobart has provided things to do with fire equipment and fire blankets for the Air Warfare Destroyer program.
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Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull: Clause 23 of the prime minister’s cabinet handbook states: “Members of the cabinet must publicly support all government decisions made in the cabinet even if they do not agree with them”. Has the prime minister disciplined the three cabinet ministers who took the unprecedented disloyal step of failing to vote for the cabinet position? Isn’t it clear this prime minister is so weak his government is so divided he can’t even keep his cabinet in line?
Turnbull gives his previous answer on the Mickey vote (named after Mickey Mouse because it is not serious). He says a number of Labor shadow cabinet members did not attend.
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Just on those questions about Nationals not voting for the gun ban, the following Liberal ministers did see fit to attend a “mickey” vote.
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There have been two government questions on registered orgs and unions.
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Labor to Turnbull: I refer to reports in the Herald Sun of a panicked two-hour-long extraordinary meeting of the National party last night. Following this meeting, for the first time in the history of Liberal national Coalitions, three Nationals ministers in the cabinet failed to vote for the cabinet position. What are the consequences in the prime minister’s government for cabinet ministers who fail to vote for the cabinet position?
I’m not a member of the Nats party room, says Turnbull.
My government, my cabinet, of which I am the prime minister and my colleague is the deputy prime minister, the leader of the Nationals resolve to extend indefinitely the ban on the Adler shotgun that had been previously subject to a sunset clause. That was a cabinet decision.
Except the National cabinet ministers did not publicly show support for that position. #justsaying
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Labor opens with Peter Dutton’s comments.
Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull: The prime minister has had the opportunity to be fully briefed on the minister for immigration’s statement in the House yesterday in which the minister expressed the view that the behaviour of children and grandchildren of immigrants meant Malcolm Fraser made a mistake by allowing their parents and grandparents to migrate to Australia in the late 1970s. Is this the prime minister’s position – yes or no?
Turnbull opens with a shouting defence of Peter Dutton. Which is a bad sign.
I can well understand how members opposite seek to tear down the minister for immigration. They can’t stand the fact that he succeeded where they have failed.
Tony Burke takes a point of order.
Turnbull says he has finished his answer.
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Question time coming up.
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Di Natale on Dutton: "Does the Minister think my Italian relatives shouldn’t have come here because of the Mafia?”
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Don't call me a banker. Super funds laugh at Kelly O'Dwyers's comparison to banks.
Gareth Hutchens
Kelly O’Dwyer has just delivered a speech that riled an audience of superannuation representatives at a conference in Parliament House.
She told them – or trolled them? – that superannuation funds were not governed at the same standard as major banks and life insurance companies.
The crowd laughed at her.
“Are you serious?” said one audience member nearby. “She’s gotta be joking,” said another.
The minister was trying to make the case that the boards of industry super funds, which are not-for-profit organisations, ought to have independent directors and an independent chair.
At the moment, they typically have equal numbers of representatives from employer groups and unions. But the Financial Services Council, which represents the interests of major banks, has been lobbying hard for years to have that model broken up. Its members require a minimum of 50% independent directors.
O’Dwyer says the Turnbull government will now reintroduce a bill requiring trustee boards to have a minimum of one third independent directors, including an independent chair.
Peter Collins, the chairman of Industry Super Australia (and former NSW Liberal party leader), said O’Dwyer’s comments were laughable.
The minister for superannuation is saying that she would like super fund governance to be the same as governance for the banks,” he told Guardian Australia.
If super funds had been responsible for systemic failures in financial advice, failure to pass on interest rate cuts, excessive executive remuneration, and other forms of profit gouging by banks, there would have been a royal commission into super funds in a flash.
It is abhorrent and unacceptable in the minds of most Australians that the standards for super funds should be the same as those tolerated for the banks.
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The Law Council president, Stuart Clark, has described the Xeno/Hinch whistleblower reforms as a major development that should push into the corporate sector.The Law Council president, Stuart Clark, has described the Xeno/Hinch whistleblower reforms as a major development that should push into the corporate sector.
These crossbench amendments now mean that vital whistleblower protection is moving well behond the public sphere and finding its way into the non-government and private sector. This is why this new legislation is so important.These crossbench amendments now mean that vital whistleblower protection is moving well behond the public sphere and finding its way into the non-government and private sector. This is why this new legislation is so important.
Reprisals against whistleblowers in registered organisations will now carry civil or criminal penalties with damages.Reprisals against whistleblowers in registered organisations will now carry civil or criminal penalties with damages.
The government has committed to a wider parliamentary inquiry into whistleblower protection and the establishment of an expert advisory panel.The government has committed to a wider parliamentary inquiry into whistleblower protection and the establishment of an expert advisory panel.
We can only hope a few cattle dogs on the crossbench keep the government on course to extend whistleblower protections to the corporate sector.We can only hope a few cattle dogs on the crossbench keep the government on course to extend whistleblower protections to the corporate sector.
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The ABCC debate has begun in the Senate and the house has started on superannuation.The ABCC debate has begun in the Senate and the house has started on superannuation.
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You madame, you with the question … let me make some witty aside lest I have to answer it (rhetorical flourish).You madame, you with the question … let me make some witty aside lest I have to answer it (rhetorical flourish).
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(Live blogger picks herself up off floor.)(Live blogger picks herself up off floor.)
Penny Wong gave her best “give me a break” face at George Brandis’ suggestion last night that a mickey vote was the reason for the Nats absence.Penny Wong gave her best “give me a break” face at George Brandis’ suggestion last night that a mickey vote was the reason for the Nats absence.
Wong:Wong:
Where were the Nationals ministers? Where were the Nationals cabinet ministers? Were they here? I have to say –Where were the Nationals ministers? Where were the Nationals cabinet ministers? Were they here? I have to say –
Brandis:Brandis:
It was a mick.It was a mick.
Wong:Wong:
It was a mick, he says. That was very, very mediocre, Senator Brandis. We will have a bit more to say about mediocrity, I am sure, in the days ahead, as will your colleagues, but that is a different point.It was a mick, he says. That was very, very mediocre, Senator Brandis. We will have a bit more to say about mediocrity, I am sure, in the days ahead, as will your colleagues, but that is a different point.
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PM takes the mickey on the NatsPM takes the mickey on the Nats
The last point to mention from the PM’s press conference is about the Nationals abstaining or crossing the floor on the guns motion. He is asked about the “guiding principle” behind the Nats’ decision, given three National cabinet ministers abstained and two backbenchers crossed the floor.The last point to mention from the PM’s press conference is about the Nationals abstaining or crossing the floor on the guns motion. He is asked about the “guiding principle” behind the Nats’ decision, given three National cabinet ministers abstained and two backbenchers crossed the floor.
In our parties, backbenchers are able to cross the floor and, indeed, you know, have done so and we respect their right – unlike the Labor party, we don’t expel people from the Coalition parties if they cross the floor.In our parties, backbenchers are able to cross the floor and, indeed, you know, have done so and we respect their right – unlike the Labor party, we don’t expel people from the Coalition parties if they cross the floor.
Then he asked Michaelia Cash to explain the mickey vote. This is if both major parties support a vote, not everyone needs to turn up for the vote. It just so happens that the three senior Nats did not make the gun vote.Then he asked Michaelia Cash to explain the mickey vote. This is if both major parties support a vote, not everyone needs to turn up for the vote. It just so happens that the three senior Nats did not make the gun vote.
(Live blogger falls off chair.)(Live blogger falls off chair.)
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Q: Last night, Peta Credlin said your chief of staff is paid double what an ordinary chief of staff is paid and that’s obviously taxpayer money. Is that correct? And, if so, why?Q: Last night, Peta Credlin said your chief of staff is paid double what an ordinary chief of staff is paid and that’s obviously taxpayer money. Is that correct? And, if so, why?
Turnbull said his “outstanding” chief of staff, Drew Clarke, was one of the most experienced public servants in the city andTurnbull said his “outstanding” chief of staff, Drew Clarke, was one of the most experienced public servants in the city and
that’s obviously been reflected in his ongoing remuneration.that’s obviously been reflected in his ongoing remuneration.
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Malcolm Turnbull is asked about the Murray-Darling Basin plan. Following a review of the socioeconomic impact of the basin plan on local communities, the Murray-Darling Basin Authority announced a reduced target of 320 gigalitres, down from an initial level of 390GL.
A key element in the plan was to restore water to the environment. But to do so, by investing in infrastructure, both off-farm and on-farm, that enabled us to produce the same amount, if not more, food and fibre with less water ... That was the big idea in 2007 and, for whatever reasons, laziness, failure to understand it – you will have you to ask the Labor party – they abandoned that and spent a lot of money buying water back in a very, very non-strategic way that did disadvantage many irrigation communities.
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Dennis Atkins asks: Do you think that the return, electorally, of the One Nation party warrants a review of the 2008 deal between the Liberal party and National party in Queensland? Or should the LNP merger stand?
Turnbull says the Queensland LNP is working very effectively.
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David Speers follows up on Massola and Murph’s questions regarding Dutton: do you support your minister’s comments about Lebanese Muslim immigration in the 70s?
There is no question that there are lessons to be learned from previous immigration policies and the minister was reflecting on, you know, on policies many years ago. He’s entitled to do that.
But the critical thing is – I’m not making any comment on his remarks other than to say that it’s fair for all of us to reflect on past policies and how effective they were or not and seek to improve, in the light of that, to improve what we’re doing now.
(This is excruciating.)
The Labor party is constantly envious of Dutton’s record as an immigration minister, because every day, by his effectiveness, he demonstrates what failures they were when they were responsible for our nation’s borders.
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Katharine Murphy asks Turnbull: In the 1970s, should Malcolm Fraser have let Lebanese Muslims into Australia, on on the basis that a handful of their descendants might commit crimes?
Turnbull refuses to answer the direct question. He simply says Peter Dutton is doing a great job and Australia has a great migration program.
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Asked about Lebanese Muslim migration, Turnbull backs Dutton's job as minister.
James Massola of Fairfax asks: on Lebanese Muslim immigration, Trent Zimmerman told the party room he had concerns about the mixed messaging we have heard in the last few days. Do you grow with Mr Zimmerman or do you agree with Michael Sukkar who told the party today that Peter Dutton’s commentary is spot on.
Malcolm Turnbull backs Peter Dutton.
Peter Dutton is doing a great job as minister ... Of course, Peter has been outstanding in his work, in our work together as a government, in reaching agreement for resettlement with third countries. So, he’s doing an outstanding job as immigration minister and if you want to look at a failure in immigration policy, you don’t have to look very far back.
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Michaelia Cash is asked if she is offended by Doug Cameron’s comments regarding her need for hand-holding by fellow minister.
Someone asked me if I was offended last night. The only thing that offended me last night is the fact that the Labor party consistently failed to stand up for the 2m members of registered organisations.
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Turnbull is asked how many jobs will be created by the legislation?
The PM won’t say how many jobs but it will be of economic benefit, he says.
It is perfectly clear that if you reduce the potential for corruption and abuse and malfeasance, that is a benefit to the economy.
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Cash says the registered orgs bill was required because unions handle $1.5bn annually, they have net assets of $2.5bn and they have a special tax exempt status.
[Labor] continue to condone the using of members’ funds in registered organisations by some union officials for their own personal piggy bank.
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Malcolm Turnbull crowing after the registered organisations bill win in the Senate last night.
He is doubling down on the ABCC bill.
The employment minister, Michaelia Cash, thanked the crossbench.
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Xenophon is happy if the Trans-Pacific Partnership dies but Hinch does not agree.
Xenophon and Hinch both support the government’s 19% backpacker tax . Xenophon says “someone” is floating 15% as a compromise with Labor’s 10% tax.
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