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Senate votes down 15% backpacker tax after passing ABCC bill – politics live | |
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Government is defeated on 15% backpacker tax, Labor amends back to 10.5% | |
The Senate has just voted 35-32 to support Labor’s proposed Backpackers tax of 10.5% | |
In favour were: | |
This rejects the 15% agreed between the Govt and Hanson and reinstates the 10.5% agreed by the Senate last week. | |
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If successful, the tax would go to 10.5%, against the wishes of the lower house. Which would mean it would punt back down to the House. | |
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So Labor effectively trying to reverse the Pauline Hanson deal for 15%. | |
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Senate is voting on the Labor amendment to set the backpackers tax at 10.5%, as agreed to by the Senate last week. | |
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Re backpackers, this is interesting from a former immigration department policy dude. | |
Postcode with most backpackers working for 2nd visa in '15-16? Bundaberg Postcode in Oz with most Newstart recipients at June '16? Bundaberg | |
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The Greens are trying to amend the backpacker savings measure, which taxes backpackers’ superannuation at 95% when they leave the country. | |
Peter Whish-Wilson says that will ensure the tax rate really is 15% instead of 24% (given the government is taking all of the backpackers’ superannuation). | |
I am not really clear how they can amend the superannuation measure which already passed last week ... | |
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Senate begins debate on the backpacker tax | |
And the Senate is on to the backpacker tax to 15%. | |
The Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson leads the debate. | |
This bill before us is bad policy. | |
He says it is not a reduction in the tax rate from 32.5% because, effectively, most backpackers were claiming resident status, which means they were paying no tax (because of the tax-free threshold). | |
These are some of the lowest-paid workers in Australia that fulfil an important role for industry. | |
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ABCC passes the Senate 36-33 | |
The Australian Building and Construction Commission bill – dated 2013 – has passed the Senate. | |
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FYI from our friends at AAP: | |
Lucy Turnbull has quit as a director of the independent thinktank the Grattan Institute. | |
The prime minister’s wife, who is a former Sydney lord mayor and business executive, has been on the board since December 2012. | |
The resignation is noted on Malcolm Turnbull’s parliamentary pecuniary interest register. | |
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Bowers is running ... | |
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Australian Building and Construction Commission final vote on now | |
Ring the bells for one minute. | |
This is the third reading vote – that all the amendments be agreed to. | |
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Scott Morrison says there was no deal on Bell litigation: "these matters preceded my time" | |
The treasurer has been pressed on what he knew about the Bell litigation and any allegations of a deal between the commonwealth and the Western Australian government as to which government would get $300m in revenue. | |
These questions by Andrew Probyn who, with Shane Wright, broke open this story on an alleged commonwealth-WA deal in the West Australian. | |
Q: When you became treasurer at what stage were you told or informed, perhaps by Dr Nahan himself, that he had an arrangement with your predecessor. He thinks it was an agreement whereby the commonwealth would not interfere in the Bell legislation? | |
[WA treasurer] Mike Nahan has never raised these issues with me. | |
Q: Not once? | |
No. | |
Q: In writing, verbally or nothing? | |
No, it has never been a topic of conversation between Mike Nahan. The matters have been set out by minister O’Dwyer and the attorney general set out clearly my understanding of these matters and how they have been advised to me. These matters preceded my time. | |
What I do know is if there was a view that there was such an arrangement, the letter that was sent by the former treasurer back to WA made it pretty clear there wasn’t. | |
Q: Can I ask when did you first know of that expectation or belief that there was ... | |
Only when these matters were raised publicly. | |
Q: When was this? | |
Not that long ago. | |
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Scott Morrison does not expect a backlash from petroleum companies (a la the mining companies and the mining tax). He has met them all and they have shown “a willingness to address the issues”. | Scott Morrison does not expect a backlash from petroleum companies (a la the mining companies and the mining tax). He has met them all and they have shown “a willingness to address the issues”. |
Q: Is that a concession there is a revenue problem this country faces as well as a spending problem? | Q: Is that a concession there is a revenue problem this country faces as well as a spending problem? |
No, what it says is it is consistent with everything I have said as treasurer. You need to ensure the integrity and sustainability of your tax base. | |
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Scott Morrison says allegations that the government is missing out on massive amounts of revenue are “aggressive” and assume none of the deductions are legitimate. He says the government has to get the balance right, which is why the review is necessary. | Scott Morrison says allegations that the government is missing out on massive amounts of revenue are “aggressive” and assume none of the deductions are legitimate. He says the government has to get the balance right, which is why the review is necessary. |
I wouldn’t want to create the expectation that, in the short term, when it comes to the PRRT, that this would lead to any significant change in the revenues over the budget and forward estimates. | I wouldn’t want to create the expectation that, in the short term, when it comes to the PRRT, that this would lead to any significant change in the revenues over the budget and forward estimates. |
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Q to Morrison: Is there an allegation or claim that these resource companies are gold-plating investment so that they can therefore claim greater deductions which then means less revenue? | Q to Morrison: Is there an allegation or claim that these resource companies are gold-plating investment so that they can therefore claim greater deductions which then means less revenue? |
When you get an uplift on the bond rate for your deductible expenses, that of itself ensures you get a large well of deductions that build up and can be applied against future projects. I am aware of those allegations. The government is not buying into the argument about those allegations. | When you get an uplift on the bond rate for your deductible expenses, that of itself ensures you get a large well of deductions that build up and can be applied against future projects. I am aware of those allegations. The government is not buying into the argument about those allegations. |
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The treasurer, Scott Morrison, is announcing a review into the petroleum resources rent tax (PRRT). Gareth Hutchens has been following this story. Here is a bit of context from his previous story: | The treasurer, Scott Morrison, is announcing a review into the petroleum resources rent tax (PRRT). Gareth Hutchens has been following this story. Here is a bit of context from his previous story: |
Australia is set to blow another resources boom, forgoing billions of dollars in potential tax revenue, because its tax regime is failing to collect adequate revenue from the explosion in liquefied natural gas exports, according to a new analysis. | Australia is set to blow another resources boom, forgoing billions of dollars in potential tax revenue, because its tax regime is failing to collect adequate revenue from the explosion in liquefied natural gas exports, according to a new analysis. |
The Turnbull government and Labor are now being lobbied to set up a parliamentary inquiry to investigate why the petroleum resource rent tax (PRRT) is collecting so little revenue. | The Turnbull government and Labor are now being lobbied to set up a parliamentary inquiry to investigate why the petroleum resource rent tax (PRRT) is collecting so little revenue. |
ScoMo is announcing the terms of reference for review into the PRRT. He identifies the problem. | ScoMo is announcing the terms of reference for review into the PRRT. He identifies the problem. |
What has occurred since 2012/13 is a halving in PRRT revenues down to $800m. In addition to that, the crude oil excise collections have fallen by more than half. This is a matter that the government has been well aware of for some time and in September of this year, I instructed ... Treasury to begin work on preparing options. | What has occurred since 2012/13 is a halving in PRRT revenues down to $800m. In addition to that, the crude oil excise collections have fallen by more than half. This is a matter that the government has been well aware of for some time and in September of this year, I instructed ... Treasury to begin work on preparing options. |
The review will be led by Michael Callaghan AM, a former Treasury official. | The review will be led by Michael Callaghan AM, a former Treasury official. |
After he instructed Treasury, Morrison had meetings with the Australian Tax Office, the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association, BP, Woodside and the Tax Justice Network. | After he instructed Treasury, Morrison had meetings with the Australian Tax Office, the Australian Petroleum Production and Exploration Association, BP, Woodside and the Tax Justice Network. |
This is an issue people understand exists and the decline in those revenues can be put down to any number of matters, particularly the decline in production as existing projects come to the end of their lives, the subdued outlook for oil and gas prices and large amounts of deductible expenditures from the recent mining investment boom. | This is an issue people understand exists and the decline in those revenues can be put down to any number of matters, particularly the decline in production as existing projects come to the end of their lives, the subdued outlook for oil and gas prices and large amounts of deductible expenditures from the recent mining investment boom. |
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Government to force ABCC and backpackers's tax through Senate | Government to force ABCC and backpackers's tax through Senate |
The Senate and lower house are sitting. | The Senate and lower house are sitting. |
The Senate is debating hours. Senate leader George Brandis has moved: | The Senate is debating hours. Senate leader George Brandis has moved: |
(a) the hours of meeting shall be 9.30 am to adjournment; and | (a) the hours of meeting shall be 9.30 am to adjournment; and |
(b) if by 12.45 pm the following bills have not been finally considered: | (b) if by 12.45 pm the following bills have not been finally considered: |
(i) the routine of business from not later than 7.20pm shall be government business only, and | (i) the routine of business from not later than 7.20pm shall be government business only, and |
(ii) the Senate shall adjourn without debate after it has finally considered the bills listed above, or a motion for the adjournment is moved by a minister, whichever is the earlier. | (ii) the Senate shall adjourn without debate after it has finally considered the bills listed above, or a motion for the adjournment is moved by a minister, whichever is the earlier. |
Penny Wong suggests this is effectively a guillotine. Because if the Senate does not vote by 12.45pm it will sit tonight until it is dealt with. Kinda like – you are not leaving the table until you eat all your dinner. | Penny Wong suggests this is effectively a guillotine. Because if the Senate does not vote by 12.45pm it will sit tonight until it is dealt with. Kinda like – you are not leaving the table until you eat all your dinner. |
Do you want to talk about this, George? | Do you want to talk about this, George? |
Manager of government business Mitch Fifield gets up and in his calm way, suggests this is totally reasonable and thanks the “various groupings” for their shared responsibility in managing the Senate. | Manager of government business Mitch Fifield gets up and in his calm way, suggests this is totally reasonable and thanks the “various groupings” for their shared responsibility in managing the Senate. |
The various groupings in the Senate did facilitate the non-contro legislation … it is unlike previous governments (Labor) when 54 bills were guillotined in rapid succession with no opportunity to debate. | The various groupings in the Senate did facilitate the non-contro legislation … it is unlike previous governments (Labor) when 54 bills were guillotined in rapid succession with no opportunity to debate. |
Greens senator Rachel Siewert says it is bollocks. (My word, not hers). | Greens senator Rachel Siewert says it is bollocks. (My word, not hers). |
When you talk about shared responsibility, talk to the other hand because you made no effort … hence chaos is the result. | When you talk about shared responsibility, talk to the other hand because you made no effort … hence chaos is the result. |
The Senate is now arguing about how long they should argue about the ABCC bill because they have not enough time to argue about the ABCC bill. | The Senate is now arguing about how long they should argue about the ABCC bill because they have not enough time to argue about the ABCC bill. |
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