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Labor's support for Coalition energy policy under microscope – politics live Labor's support for Coalition energy policy under microscope – politics live
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Labor started the emissions-intensity-scheme-in-sheep’s-clothing line on Wednesday. Pat Conroy, who seems to know more about energy policy than is healthy for one person, said the Neg “involves setting an Emissions Reduction Target for its retail, so it is sending a signal through the market to reduce the emissions”
Laura Jayes from Sky pointed out that Kerry Schott the Chair of the Energy Security Board, “said it is absolutely not a carbon price”, to which Conroy replied:
I’m just telling you what the mechanism operates like. The mechanism operates in a way that signals to retailers that you need to reduce the carbon intensity of your generation mix. That is a carbon signal, which is quite interesting that the party room of the Liberal’s isn’t picking that up. The key thing here is that we need to get emissions down, while increasing reliability and dispatchability and that’s why we will look at this once we see all the details.”
We are hearing the is it or isn’t it question was much talked about at the Australian Industry Group breakfast this morning, where Malcolm Turnbull was speaking on energy policy. We’ll bring you more on that very soon.
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At a doorstop in Canberra, the Greens MP Adam Bandt has said the party will push in the Senate for a full parliamentary inquiry into the Crown casino allegations after “very distressing allegations” from whistleblowers. Nick Xenophon has called for the same this morning after revelations from MP Andrew Wilkie yesterday.
Bandt said the numbers would be there if Labor supported the push, but Guardian Australia has confirmed that Labor will not support a Senate inquiry. Labor’s position is understood to be that this is a matter for the state regulator, but is happy to reconsider after the regulator has done its job.
Bandt:
The only thing protecting the casino bosses from a full inquiry into these allegations of misconduct is the Labor party. The Labor party now needs to decide whether honesty is more important than money.
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While Labor (and some within the industry) paint the Neg as an emissions intensity scheme, the government is just as adamant that it is not.
Zed Seselja was quick to tell Sky that Burke was wrong, but not why.
It is not an emissions intensity scheme. What it is, is a scheme which will ensure we will have reliable, affordable power while also meeting our emissions reductions targets. This is absolutely critical to industry in this country, to jobs and to householders to ensure there is downward pressure on their electricity prices. The reason Tony Burke is trying to pretend it is something that it is not is because he knows [the] Labor scheme would push up electricity prices dramatically.
Not content with just Seselja, James McGrath was next in the studio to say Labor was wrong, while also calling on Labor to come on board.
Josh [Frydenberg] has been quite strong in saying it is not a trading scheme, it is not a carbon tax, what it is, is a plan to deliver reliability, it is a plan to deliver affordability, and what we want to hear from Labor is what is your plan, they don’t have a plan at the moment, so if you don’t have a plan, stop criticising ours and come on board and support our plan, because it will deliver reliability and it will put downward plan on electricity prices and that is what people want to hear.
The talking notes the government have released on this topic clearly point to MPs being told to hammer the affordability aspect, as well as the reliability points, with responsibility, the third “ity” in the non-three-word slogan government’s three-word slogan, being left to bigger hitters Josh Frydenberg and Malcolm Turnbull. But so far, the denial of the Neg as including a carbon price, or an emissions intensity scheme, has been left at “it’s not”, with no detail on why it’s not.
For what it’s worth, here was Katharine Murphy’s take on what the scheme involved from earlier in the week:
The reliability obligation will require energy retailers to hold hedges in the form of forward contracts totalling a percentage of their forecast peak load. The amount of hedges required will be based on a system-wide reliability standard to be determined in the new framework. That process, which will be done state-by-state and carried out annually on a five-year forward planning basis, will identify capacity gaps.
The emissions reduction obligation adds to the reliability framework. In addition to the requirement to hedge their load, there will be a further requirement for energy consumption to meet a set emissions intensity target for the electricity sector.
That target will be set by the government. The government has signalled it will be in the order of a 26% reduction on 2005 levels by 2030. Tony Abbott willing. Yes, that’s a joke, but not a very funny one, given this legislation will have to clear the parliament, and Abbott is still naysaying.
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The energy debate has moved on to whether or not Labor will support it. So far, Labor hasn’t said either way. It has been very careful to be critical of the process, and what the government is using to make some of its claims, such as the $110-$115 saving (which is an average which kicks in some time between 2020 and 2030) but not explicitly slam the policy itself.
Now it has moved on to talking why it might support it, because it looks like an emissions intensity scheme, which is Labor’s preferred option. That has now placed the government in the unusual position of denying something contained within its policy.
Here is what Tony Burke told Sky News this morning:
It does look like it may well be another way of doing an emissions intensity scheme. It may well be that what we have in front of us is an emissions intensity scheme, managed by the energy retailers, rather than managed by the government. We are still working our way through it, we still don’t have all the detail you need to make that conclusion. It might be that that is what we are looking at. It might end up being something that Labor can support.
Kim Carr is due to give a speech today, where he has come to the same conclusion, as Paul Karp reports:
What’s particularly interesting, and I am not certain that the government party room has understood this, [is] the new measures have remarkable underlying similarities to the principles of the electricity intensity scheme that were rejected last December.
And it’s not just Labor; yesterday, the chief of the Australian Energy Council, Matthew Warren, was asked if the Neg was a carbon price:
Well, yes, of course it is. Anything that operates, anything that drives investment in the electricity sector in the 21st century, if is going to work, has to reflect the carbon price. There is a value that is attributed to the risk of carbon in all investments.”
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Tony Burke has called the Peter Dutton-led citizenship changes “appalling”, likening it to the White Australia Policy.Tony Burke has called the Peter Dutton-led citizenship changes “appalling”, likening it to the White Australia Policy.
“If you came from China to Australia you need university-level English, if you came from Canada, you didn’t need university-level English. If you came from India, you needed university-level English, if you came from Great Britain you didn’t,” he told Sky News.“If you came from China to Australia you need university-level English, if you came from Canada, you didn’t need university-level English. If you came from India, you needed university-level English, if you came from Great Britain you didn’t,” he told Sky News.
“It was an appalling policy, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the White Australia Policy. I am glad it has been knocked back. Peter Dutton should back down on this.”“It was an appalling policy, the likes of which we haven’t seen since the White Australia Policy. I am glad it has been knocked back. Peter Dutton should back down on this.”
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Speaking on Radio National, the communications minister, Mitch Fifield, has responded to calls from Andrew Wilkie and Nick Xenophon for an inquiry into allegations Crown casino tampered with poker machines and avoided reporting transactions of more than $10,000 to Austrac.Speaking on Radio National, the communications minister, Mitch Fifield, has responded to calls from Andrew Wilkie and Nick Xenophon for an inquiry into allegations Crown casino tampered with poker machines and avoided reporting transactions of more than $10,000 to Austrac.
Fifield replied:Fifield replied:
In relation to allegations Mr Wilkie has made, the justice minister, Michael Keenan, has already made clear that Austrac, our financial intelligence agency, will, as it always does, investigate claims of wrongdoing.In relation to allegations Mr Wilkie has made, the justice minister, Michael Keenan, has already made clear that Austrac, our financial intelligence agency, will, as it always does, investigate claims of wrongdoing.
But casinos and venue-based poker machines are “matters that fall squarely within the jurisdictions of the states”, he said. Fifield said federal parliament can’t assume responsibility for those, but then concedes the Senate can establish a parliamentary inquiry.But casinos and venue-based poker machines are “matters that fall squarely within the jurisdictions of the states”, he said. Fifield said federal parliament can’t assume responsibility for those, but then concedes the Senate can establish a parliamentary inquiry.
Fifield suggests the states can move more quickly:Fifield suggests the states can move more quickly:
There are state regulatory bodies there are state law enforcement agencies, they have the responsibility in this area … That is fairly and squarely a matter for those state governments. They have the power, they have the legislative authority, they are the people who can move swiftly in this area.There are state regulatory bodies there are state law enforcement agencies, they have the responsibility in this area … That is fairly and squarely a matter for those state governments. They have the power, they have the legislative authority, they are the people who can move swiftly in this area.
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While a former prime minister openly questions whether climate change is real, and if it is “probably doing good” the Prime Minister’s Prizes for Science were handed out overnight.While a former prime minister openly questions whether climate change is real, and if it is “probably doing good” the Prime Minister’s Prizes for Science were handed out overnight.
The 2017 recipients are:The 2017 recipients are:
Prime Minister’s Prize for Science: Distinguished Professor Jenny Graves AO, La Trobe UniversityPrime Minister’s Prize for Science: Distinguished Professor Jenny Graves AO, La Trobe University
Prime Minister’s Prize for Innovation: Laureate Professor Eric Reynolds AO, the University of Melbourne/Oral Health CRCPrime Minister’s Prize for Innovation: Laureate Professor Eric Reynolds AO, the University of Melbourne/Oral Health CRC
Frank Fenner Prize for Life Scientist of the Year: Professor Jian Yang, the University of QueenslandFrank Fenner Prize for Life Scientist of the Year: Professor Jian Yang, the University of Queensland
Malcolm McIntosh Prize for Physical Scientist of the Year: Professor Dayong Jin, University of Technology SydneyMalcolm McIntosh Prize for Physical Scientist of the Year: Professor Dayong Jin, University of Technology Sydney
Prime Minister’s Prize for Excellence in Science Teaching in Primary Schools: Neil Bramsen, Mount Ousley Public School, WollongongPrime Minister’s Prize for Excellence in Science Teaching in Primary Schools: Neil Bramsen, Mount Ousley Public School, Wollongong
Prime Minister’s Priz for Excellence in Science Teaching in Secondary Schools: Brett McKay, Kirrawee High School, Sydney.Prime Minister’s Priz for Excellence in Science Teaching in Secondary Schools: Brett McKay, Kirrawee High School, Sydney.
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We still don’t know when the high court will return its judgment on the seven MPs facing questions over their eligibility to sit in parliament, but Nick Xenophon was taking no chances, seizing the opportunity to make a valedictory speech overnight.We still don’t know when the high court will return its judgment on the seven MPs facing questions over their eligibility to sit in parliament, but Nick Xenophon was taking no chances, seizing the opportunity to make a valedictory speech overnight.
In typical Xenophon humblebrag style, the South Australian senator said he was not one for valedictories, but he had a few more words to say on a few more topics. Those would be donations reform and the gambling industry.In typical Xenophon humblebrag style, the South Australian senator said he was not one for valedictories, but he had a few more words to say on a few more topics. Those would be donations reform and the gambling industry.
I do not know when I’ll be making my last speech in the Senate. I hope this won’t be it, because I have a lot to say about many issues affecting my home state of South Australia, but, like others, being part of the ‘citizenship seven’, I am in the hands of the high court – of the wise women and men of the high court. I will be leaving this place, however, one way or the other and sooner rather than later, once that decision is handed down.”I do not know when I’ll be making my last speech in the Senate. I hope this won’t be it, because I have a lot to say about many issues affecting my home state of South Australia, but, like others, being part of the ‘citizenship seven’, I am in the hands of the high court – of the wise women and men of the high court. I will be leaving this place, however, one way or the other and sooner rather than later, once that decision is handed down.”
That sent George Brandis running back into the chamber:That sent George Brandis running back into the chamber:
I wasn’t proposing to participate in the adjournment debate this evening, but I understand that Senator Xenophon has intimated that may very well have been his last speech to the chamber, depending upon the high court. I suspect this was not your last speech to the chamber, Senator Xenophon, because if it was, you’ve had a complete personality change. The speech has been delivered in a low-profile, unflamboyant, discreet way and there’s not a single journalist or, indeed, photographer in the gallery. So all of the indicators suggest that this isn’t your last speech. But against the possibility that it is, I do want to say to you on behalf of the government, while we do not wish you success in the South Australian election because we in the government are strongly of the view that the election of Steven Marshall as the premier of South Australia is far and away in the best interests of the state of South Australia. Nevertheless, I did want, in the event that this is your last speech, to wish you well in a personal sense on behalf of the government and to thank you for your service in this chamber, which has been very conspicuous and very consequential. We have found that you have agreed with the government more often than you have not agreed with us. But, whether you’ve agreed with us or not, you’ve always dealt with us in a considerate, constructive and collegial manner. May I say to you, Senator Xenophon, on my own personal behalf, that when the day comes that you leave us, I for one will miss you. I don’t think every one of my government colleagues would say the same, but you and I have become friends. I’ve enjoyed our friendship. I hope it will continue and, in a personal sense as well, I wish you all of the best for the future, and I wish you success in the high court as well.”I wasn’t proposing to participate in the adjournment debate this evening, but I understand that Senator Xenophon has intimated that may very well have been his last speech to the chamber, depending upon the high court. I suspect this was not your last speech to the chamber, Senator Xenophon, because if it was, you’ve had a complete personality change. The speech has been delivered in a low-profile, unflamboyant, discreet way and there’s not a single journalist or, indeed, photographer in the gallery. So all of the indicators suggest that this isn’t your last speech. But against the possibility that it is, I do want to say to you on behalf of the government, while we do not wish you success in the South Australian election because we in the government are strongly of the view that the election of Steven Marshall as the premier of South Australia is far and away in the best interests of the state of South Australia. Nevertheless, I did want, in the event that this is your last speech, to wish you well in a personal sense on behalf of the government and to thank you for your service in this chamber, which has been very conspicuous and very consequential. We have found that you have agreed with the government more often than you have not agreed with us. But, whether you’ve agreed with us or not, you’ve always dealt with us in a considerate, constructive and collegial manner. May I say to you, Senator Xenophon, on my own personal behalf, that when the day comes that you leave us, I for one will miss you. I don’t think every one of my government colleagues would say the same, but you and I have become friends. I’ve enjoyed our friendship. I hope it will continue and, in a personal sense as well, I wish you all of the best for the future, and I wish you success in the high court as well.”
And then Penny Wong:And then Penny Wong:
I apologise I didn’t quite get here before the leader of the government took his seat, but he hasn’t gone yet. I missed the beginning of your speech, Senator Xenophon, and I know you said ‘maybe’, so I don’t know if this is one of those teasing things that you do: ‘I might agree. I might not agree. I might go. I might not.’ But in the event that the ‘maybe’ is in fact the case: I think I sent you a text, which, as I chided you today, you hadn’t responded to, when you announced you were running in South Australia and I said, ‘I think I can safely say the Senate won’t be the same without you – stay in touch.’ Certainly, we disagree on a range of policy positions; we agree on some. I do appreciate, notwithstanding those differences, that you have dealt with me courteously and with my team courteously, and you have listened to us when we have put a view to you. I particularly remember when in government as finance minister, we had some difficult and personal negotiations on some very big issues, including the NBN and of course the stimulus package. We were very appreciative that we were able to resolve those issues. So, I share Senator Brandis’s distance from your political objectives: he wants Steven Marshall elected and I want the premier re-elected. Obviously, we have a different political perspective, but I do wish you well.”I apologise I didn’t quite get here before the leader of the government took his seat, but he hasn’t gone yet. I missed the beginning of your speech, Senator Xenophon, and I know you said ‘maybe’, so I don’t know if this is one of those teasing things that you do: ‘I might agree. I might not agree. I might go. I might not.’ But in the event that the ‘maybe’ is in fact the case: I think I sent you a text, which, as I chided you today, you hadn’t responded to, when you announced you were running in South Australia and I said, ‘I think I can safely say the Senate won’t be the same without you – stay in touch.’ Certainly, we disagree on a range of policy positions; we agree on some. I do appreciate, notwithstanding those differences, that you have dealt with me courteously and with my team courteously, and you have listened to us when we have put a view to you. I particularly remember when in government as finance minister, we had some difficult and personal negotiations on some very big issues, including the NBN and of course the stimulus package. We were very appreciative that we were able to resolve those issues. So, I share Senator Brandis’s distance from your political objectives: he wants Steven Marshall elected and I want the premier re-elected. Obviously, we have a different political perspective, but I do wish you well.”
Senate president Stephen Parry had the last word:Senate president Stephen Parry had the last word:
Senator Xenophon, it was a very poor way of exiting if you wanted no fuss; you’ve had some fuss.”Senator Xenophon, it was a very poor way of exiting if you wanted no fuss; you’ve had some fuss.”
And the Senate was adjourned.And the Senate was adjourned.
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The finance minister, Mathias Cormann, has said the government “remains committed” to its citizenship package, despite the bill being dropped from the Senate notice paper on Wednesday due to opposition from Labor, the Greens and crossbench.The finance minister, Mathias Cormann, has said the government “remains committed” to its citizenship package, despite the bill being dropped from the Senate notice paper on Wednesday due to opposition from Labor, the Greens and crossbench.
Cormann told ABC News Breakfast the reforms are “very important ... and will keep working with all non-government senators to secure the necessary support”.Cormann told ABC News Breakfast the reforms are “very important ... and will keep working with all non-government senators to secure the necessary support”.
Cormann said the government understands it does not have numbers in the Senate but promises to “continue to work with all nongovernment senators to see how we can best secure consensus to ensure we take a step forward”.Cormann said the government understands it does not have numbers in the Senate but promises to “continue to work with all nongovernment senators to see how we can best secure consensus to ensure we take a step forward”.
He doesn’t list any specific compromises, saying that’s a matter for the immigration minister, Peter Dutton.He doesn’t list any specific compromises, saying that’s a matter for the immigration minister, Peter Dutton.
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Good morning and welcome to the last sitting day of the weekGood morning and welcome to the last sitting day of the week
Energy is still dominating the headlines, with Labor’s support for the Neg now under the microscope.Energy is still dominating the headlines, with Labor’s support for the Neg now under the microscope.
Labor has been very critical of the process, and has hit out against the lack of modelling and what they are calling an “eight-page policy” but have not ruled out supporting it. That’s what Malcolm Turnbull and Josh Frydenberg are hoping for, as Labor’s support would not only mean a political win, it will help bring the states, particularly Queensland, South Australia and Victoria on board, which is the easiest way of bringing the Neg into existence. Meanwhile, the Greens say the Neg is worse for renewables than no action. More on that here.Labor has been very critical of the process, and has hit out against the lack of modelling and what they are calling an “eight-page policy” but have not ruled out supporting it. That’s what Malcolm Turnbull and Josh Frydenberg are hoping for, as Labor’s support would not only mean a political win, it will help bring the states, particularly Queensland, South Australia and Victoria on board, which is the easiest way of bringing the Neg into existence. Meanwhile, the Greens say the Neg is worse for renewables than no action. More on that here.
Turnbull was up early, this time talking all things Neg with industry. Katharine Murphy will be able to give us an update on that a little later.Turnbull was up early, this time talking all things Neg with industry. Katharine Murphy will be able to give us an update on that a little later.
Also floating around today, as the parliamentary sitting week draws to a close, the government has not given up on its citizenship changes, despite the Senate, led by the Greens and Labor, forcing it off the agenda on Wednesday. Peter Dutton made some last-minute overtures to the Nick Xenophon Team to try and keep it in the land of the legislatively living, but no dice. But Mathias Cormann says it will be back.Also floating around today, as the parliamentary sitting week draws to a close, the government has not given up on its citizenship changes, despite the Senate, led by the Greens and Labor, forcing it off the agenda on Wednesday. Peter Dutton made some last-minute overtures to the Nick Xenophon Team to try and keep it in the land of the legislatively living, but no dice. But Mathias Cormann says it will be back.
The communications minister, Mitch Fifield, has been up and about doing his best to defend the need to include “fair and balanced” in the ABC charter, after introducing the changes One Nation wanted in regards to the national broadcaster, in exchange for their support for the media reforms.The communications minister, Mitch Fifield, has been up and about doing his best to defend the need to include “fair and balanced” in the ABC charter, after introducing the changes One Nation wanted in regards to the national broadcaster, in exchange for their support for the media reforms.
Labor is sticking to its no minimum mandatory sentencing policy. The justice minister, Michael Keenan, wants compulsory sentences for convicted child abusers, but Labor has cited concerns within the legal community of unintended consequences – like juries being less likely to convict if judges have no control over the sentence.Labor is sticking to its no minimum mandatory sentencing policy. The justice minister, Michael Keenan, wants compulsory sentences for convicted child abusers, but Labor has cited concerns within the legal community of unintended consequences – like juries being less likely to convict if judges have no control over the sentence.
A leaked poll conducted by the banking industry has found Nick Xenophon is South Australia’s preferred premier. Xenophon announced earlier this month he plans on resigning from the Senate, no matter what the high court finds in regards to his citizenship, to run for a state seat in the South Australian parliament.A leaked poll conducted by the banking industry has found Nick Xenophon is South Australia’s preferred premier. Xenophon announced earlier this month he plans on resigning from the Senate, no matter what the high court finds in regards to his citizenship, to run for a state seat in the South Australian parliament.
And calls for an inquiry into the casino industry are continuing after Andrew Wilkie tabled allegations of machine tampering and worse in parliament on Wednesday.And calls for an inquiry into the casino industry are continuing after Andrew Wilkie tabled allegations of machine tampering and worse in parliament on Wednesday.
So it’s a busy day ahead of us, ahead of estimates and the House sitting next week. The Guardian Australia brains trust will help keep you updated, along with Mike Bowers on the lens and myself. Follow along in the comments or on Twitter (@mpbowers and @amyremeikis) and we’ll do our best to get back to you.So it’s a busy day ahead of us, ahead of estimates and the House sitting next week. The Guardian Australia brains trust will help keep you updated, along with Mike Bowers on the lens and myself. Follow along in the comments or on Twitter (@mpbowers and @amyremeikis) and we’ll do our best to get back to you.
Let’s get started!Let’s get started!
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