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| Coalition pushes for vote on full tax package in Senate – politics live | |
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| So after all of that, the Senate will continue to debate the tax bill until 6.30 tonight. | |
| Then the House will get it tomorrow morning. | |
| It will send it back to the Senate, because it won’t like that stage 3 has been knocked off. | |
| The Senate, at this stage, and I stress, at this stage, will then probably pass it. Centre Alliance have said they would pass the whole package if it returned to the Senate. | |
| Labor have committed to repealing it, if they get into government. | |
| All round good times. | |
| The bells have rung for the division guillotining the debate: | |
| Ayes: 37 | |
| Noes: 33 | |
| Mathias Cormann is now asking the Senate to return to the income tax debate. | |
| From Mike Bowers, to you: | |
| Here was Chris Bowen’s take from just before question time: | |
| One Nation voted with the government to keep stage three despite the rhetoric and positioning prior to the vote. This says a lot about One Nation. They always find a way to vote with the government. There’s a couple of explanations for this vote. | |
| Pauline Hanson told the Senate: ‘The tax cuts are going to be up to $200,000. I am a very fortunate Australian to be earning more than $200,000. I’m paying tax at 45 cents on the dollar on that. I’m not getting tax relief.’ | |
| Senator Hanson appears to misunderstand how the Australian tax system works, how the marginal tax system works. | |
| By voting for stage three she has voted for tax relief for herself and for every other high income earner in Australia. Australians over $200,000 will get a tax cut under stage three. | |
| In fact the Government’s own calculator indicates stage three provides a tax relief of $7,725 for an Australian on $200,000. | |
| So maybe Senator Hanson simply doesn’t know what she is voting on. | |
| Alternatively there is some secret deal between the government and One Nation. | |
| We’ve seen this before. We saw this on company taxes. One Nation declaring they were going to vote for these big business company tax cuts and us being told that that was a straight-forward arrangement. | |
| Only months later did we find out there was a secret deal between the government and One Nation. We still don’t know the full details about what’s in that deal because the government refuses to release them. | |
| Pauline Hanson does look like voting for the whole package though. | Pauline Hanson does look like voting for the whole package though. |
| So the question remains – what did she get in return? | So the question remains – what did she get in return? |
| Richard Di Natale is also speaking out against the government attempt to guillotine the debate, so it can vote on the rest of the tax cuts – he uses the point that Pauline Hanson doesn’t understand what she is voting for. (Hanson had claimed earlier that she wouldn’t get a tax cut. She will – about $11 grand worth) | Richard Di Natale is also speaking out against the government attempt to guillotine the debate, so it can vote on the rest of the tax cuts – he uses the point that Pauline Hanson doesn’t understand what she is voting for. (Hanson had claimed earlier that she wouldn’t get a tax cut. She will – about $11 grand worth) |
| “If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it,” he says. | “If you don’t understand it, don’t vote for it,” he says. |
| So on my rough count we just heard: | So on my rough count we just heard: |
| 33 aspiration/aspirationals | 33 aspiration/aspirationals |
| 10 mystifieds | 10 mystifieds |
| 4 slimys | 4 slimys |
| 3 snob/snobby/snobbery | 3 snob/snobby/snobbery |
| Malcolm Turnbull returns to the floor to give that answer which he had taken on notice: | Malcolm Turnbull returns to the floor to give that answer which he had taken on notice: |
| The median of all wages is $53,000 a year. | The median of all wages is $53,000 a year. |
| And QT ends. | And QT ends. |
| While looking to the Senate, I missed a question Tanya Plibersek asked on education and when the pinks and greens are out (the Senate and Hansard QT records) I’ll do my best to throw it up. | While looking to the Senate, I missed a question Tanya Plibersek asked on education and when the pinks and greens are out (the Senate and Hansard QT records) I’ll do my best to throw it up. |
| So the debate can return to the tax bill | So the debate can return to the tax bill |
| Here is the motion: | Here is the motion: |
| (a) government business order of the day no. 1 (Treasury Laws Amendment [Personal Income Tax Plan] Bill 2018) be considered under a limitation of time, and that the time allotted for all remaining stages be until 6.30pm today; | (a) government business order of the day no. 1 (Treasury Laws Amendment [Personal Income Tax Plan] Bill 2018) be considered under a limitation of time, and that the time allotted for all remaining stages be until 6.30pm today; |
| (b) paragraph (a) of this order shall operate as a limitation of debate under standing order 142; and | (b) paragraph (a) of this order shall operate as a limitation of debate under standing order 142; and |
| (c) on the reporting of any messages from the House of Representatives relating to the bill, the message be considered immediately in committee of the whole and any questions on the remaining stages of the bill be put immediately without amendment or debate. | (c) on the reporting of any messages from the House of Representatives relating to the bill, the message be considered immediately in committee of the whole and any questions on the remaining stages of the bill be put immediately without amendment or debate. |
| Basically, that is a tactical move by the government, because the vote timing means it could return to the House this evening, before being rejected and then return to the Senate – where the government can once again call on a vote on the whole package – which, at this stage, it looks like winning. | Basically, that is a tactical move by the government, because the vote timing means it could return to the House this evening, before being rejected and then return to the Senate – where the government can once again call on a vote on the whole package – which, at this stage, it looks like winning. |
| Penny Wong has A LOT of things to say about this and none of them good. | Penny Wong has A LOT of things to say about this and none of them good. |
| Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull: | Bill Shorten to Malcolm Turnbull: |
| Why is the prime minister telling working Australians to get a better job, but on the other hand, blocking Labor’s plan to give 63,000 people in Longman who earn less than $125,000 and includes aged care workers, a tax cut of up to $928 a year? Why is the prime minister blocking an income tax plan which will be double the tax cut that the government is currently offering people? | Why is the prime minister telling working Australians to get a better job, but on the other hand, blocking Labor’s plan to give 63,000 people in Longman who earn less than $125,000 and includes aged care workers, a tax cut of up to $928 a year? Why is the prime minister blocking an income tax plan which will be double the tax cut that the government is currently offering people? |
| Turnbull: | Turnbull: |
| “Labor party may be mystified by aspiration but nobody is mystified by the way in which the leader of the opposition again and again misleads the house, misleads the house. I said no such thing. You know that very well. You know that very well. And just because you repeat a falsehood does not make it true. | “Labor party may be mystified by aspiration but nobody is mystified by the way in which the leader of the opposition again and again misleads the house, misleads the house. I said no such thing. You know that very well. You know that very well. And just because you repeat a falsehood does not make it true. |
| “Australians, whether they work in aged care, whether they work in manufacturing, whether they work in agriculture, are entitled to aspire to do whatever they want to do. They are entitled to aspire to better paid jobs, two different jobs, to promotions. They are entitled to aspire to dream, and our job, as the government, and I would say the parliament, is to do everything we can to enable them to realise those aspirations. | “Australians, whether they work in aged care, whether they work in manufacturing, whether they work in agriculture, are entitled to aspire to do whatever they want to do. They are entitled to aspire to better paid jobs, two different jobs, to promotions. They are entitled to aspire to dream, and our job, as the government, and I would say the parliament, is to do everything we can to enable them to realise those aspirations. |
| “And the Labor party stands in the way of those aspirations. They want those workers and particularly those that are getting on a bit in years, those 60-year-olds, yes, they have to stay put, don’t they? They can’t aspire to anything. It does not think, [with its] patronising smugness [and] slimy insinuations about older Australians, it is sickening, and it would embarrass the men and women who were leaders of the Labor party in years gone by. | “And the Labor party stands in the way of those aspirations. They want those workers and particularly those that are getting on a bit in years, those 60-year-olds, yes, they have to stay put, don’t they? They can’t aspire to anything. It does not think, [with its] patronising smugness [and] slimy insinuations about older Australians, it is sickening, and it would embarrass the men and women who were leaders of the Labor party in years gone by. |
| “No doubt, we don’t have to have doubt why Paul Keating said Labor is fading because it is not able to connect to aspiration or Australians, and the reason why? It’s smug in those big government salaries, the Labor party is mystified by the way in which millions of Australians want to get ahead, and they want to keep them there in their place.” | “No doubt, we don’t have to have doubt why Paul Keating said Labor is fading because it is not able to connect to aspiration or Australians, and the reason why? It’s smug in those big government salaries, the Labor party is mystified by the way in which millions of Australians want to get ahead, and they want to keep them there in their place.” |
| Again – this is the do as we say, not as we do argument. Both sides are taking half a sentence and making it fact. | Again – this is the do as we say, not as we do argument. Both sides are taking half a sentence and making it fact. |
| We just got our daily hit of “Big Trev”, which is Trevor Ruthenberg, the LNP candidate for Longman, who needs to be referred to as Big Trev, so people will have some idea of his name. | We just got our daily hit of “Big Trev”, which is Trevor Ruthenberg, the LNP candidate for Longman, who needs to be referred to as Big Trev, so people will have some idea of his name. |
| Julie Collins to Malcolm Turnbull: | Julie Collins to Malcolm Turnbull: |
| “Why is this snobbish Prime Minister telling workers, Australians, to get a better job, instead of supporting Labor’s plan to give 39,000 people in Braddon who earn less than $125,000, including aged care workers, a tax cut of up to $928 a year, almost double the tax cut they will get from this government?” | “Why is this snobbish Prime Minister telling workers, Australians, to get a better job, instead of supporting Labor’s plan to give 39,000 people in Braddon who earn less than $125,000, including aged care workers, a tax cut of up to $928 a year, almost double the tax cut they will get from this government?” |
| Tony Smith takes umbrage with the word snobbish: | Tony Smith takes umbrage with the word snobbish: |
| My personal view is this demeans the house, because it leads to very aggressive questions, that have statements in that imply questions, and that particular question has taken it, I think, to a new low.” | My personal view is this demeans the house, because it leads to very aggressive questions, that have statements in that imply questions, and that particular question has taken it, I think, to a new low.” |
| Tony Burke asks if that ruling also applies to answers and Smith sounds like he says yes, but it is hard to tell. But it is enough to quiet the House RIGHT down. | Tony Burke asks if that ruling also applies to answers and Smith sounds like he says yes, but it is hard to tell. But it is enough to quiet the House RIGHT down. |
| Turnbull: | Turnbull: |
| “I will take the opportunity from the question to refer to some important benefits that will flow to the residents and constituents in Braddon from the government’s economic plan. Mr Speaker, there are 39,300 taxpayers in Braddon who will benefit from the 1 July this year, our personal income tax plan, with around 40,600 who will receive the full $530. But Mr Speaker, that is not all. There will be, if Labor were to be able to impose its retiree tax, grabbing back, grabbing back the franking credits that retirees are able to enjoy under a law that is fair and has had bipartisan support from the time ...” | “I will take the opportunity from the question to refer to some important benefits that will flow to the residents and constituents in Braddon from the government’s economic plan. Mr Speaker, there are 39,300 taxpayers in Braddon who will benefit from the 1 July this year, our personal income tax plan, with around 40,600 who will receive the full $530. But Mr Speaker, that is not all. There will be, if Labor were to be able to impose its retiree tax, grabbing back, grabbing back the franking credits that retirees are able to enjoy under a law that is fair and has had bipartisan support from the time ...” |
| Turnbull goes on to say that the opposition “can’t even run a successful class war” and goes on to talk about Labor’s franking credit plan, but not even he seems that in to it. | Turnbull goes on to say that the opposition “can’t even run a successful class war” and goes on to talk about Labor’s franking credit plan, but not even he seems that in to it. |
| Greg Hunt is now trying very hard not to yell his dixer answer. He is leaning on the despatch box like it’s a bar, and he’s restraining himself from telling the group at the closest table that Stop! is actually the greatest Spice Girl song of all time. | Greg Hunt is now trying very hard not to yell his dixer answer. He is leaning on the despatch box like it’s a bar, and he’s restraining himself from telling the group at the closest table that Stop! is actually the greatest Spice Girl song of all time. |