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| Media companies unite to fight back against secrecy laws – politics live | Media companies unite to fight back against secrecy laws – politics live |
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| The new AFP commissioner, Reece Kershaw, is facing his first estimates hearing since taking on the role, following Andrew Colvin’s retirement. | |
| He is announcing a review ‘into sensitive investigations/disclosures’ to be conducted by John Lawler - but it is not going to be looking at the current investigations (that’s the press freedom stuff) | |
| Home affairs estimates has begun – we were expecting Michaelia Cash to be in with the AFP, but Marise Payne has been sent in her place. | |
| Honestly, why this is allowed to continue is absolutely flabbergasting. | |
| There is a reason spouse and family interests are declared. That reason is obvious. | |
| Bob Katter continuing to make a mockery of financial interest disclosures. We ask for this kind of information for a reason - how is 'my wife doesn't tell me' an acceptable answer? pic.twitter.com/R5UWLPClzX | |
| Estimates are about to get under way. | |
| Good morning and welcome to day 1 of #Senate #estimates. Four committees are meeting today starting at 9am. Live broadcast is available here: https://t.co/9Lgw5iXAcZ | |
| Christopher Pyne is speaking to Laura Jayes on Sky – she asks about finding your place in politics, which is very timely, given the number of people who are jostling for front-row positions at the moment. | |
| Pyne said he worked out very early on he would never be a “star like Malcolm Turnbull” so found a place he was comfortable with. Which was, presumably, “the fixer”. | |
| Scott Morrison also says no to Anthony Albanese and Joel Fitzgibbon’s drought war cabinet idea (which is a dramatic way of saying a cross-party committee, with ministers and shadow ministers, dealing with an issue) | Scott Morrison also says no to Anthony Albanese and Joel Fitzgibbon’s drought war cabinet idea (which is a dramatic way of saying a cross-party committee, with ministers and shadow ministers, dealing with an issue) |
| Well, I’ve noticed that point. If we as a government continue to consult widely and listen, most importantly, to people in rural and regional Australia. But I do note that even at a time, even when Australia actually was at war, there was no such war cabinet as described by the leader of the opposition. So they can explain the context of the nature of their proposal, but we were elected to get on with the job, and that’s exactly what we’re doing. | Well, I’ve noticed that point. If we as a government continue to consult widely and listen, most importantly, to people in rural and regional Australia. But I do note that even at a time, even when Australia actually was at war, there was no such war cabinet as described by the leader of the opposition. So they can explain the context of the nature of their proposal, but we were elected to get on with the job, and that’s exactly what we’re doing. |
| I think those sorts of proposals are novel, but they sort of, don’t bear out against Australia’s government experience. If you’re not having a war cabinet involving non-government members in an actual time of war, and I point out that at the time of world war two breaking out, Sir Robert Menzies then, in the UAP who had sought to form coalitions both with the Labor party and the Country party at the time at a time of war, and that didn’t come to effect and ultimately a Labor government was formed at that time under John Curtin. | I think those sorts of proposals are novel, but they sort of, don’t bear out against Australia’s government experience. If you’re not having a war cabinet involving non-government members in an actual time of war, and I point out that at the time of world war two breaking out, Sir Robert Menzies then, in the UAP who had sought to form coalitions both with the Labor party and the Country party at the time at a time of war, and that didn’t come to effect and ultimately a Labor government was formed at that time under John Curtin. |
| So they can make those proposals, but our government is filled, both in cabinet and on our benches, of Australians who have a direct experience and live in drought-affected communities, right across New South Wales, Queensland, Victoria and South Australia, and indeed from other states where drought has affected them in the past. And so we have the right people and our ears are wide open and the commitments we’ve made on the drought continue. It is a rolling response. | So they can make those proposals, but our government is filled, both in cabinet and on our benches, of Australians who have a direct experience and live in drought-affected communities, right across New South Wales, Queensland, Victoria and South Australia, and indeed from other states where drought has affected them in the past. And so we have the right people and our ears are wide open and the commitments we’ve made on the drought continue. It is a rolling response. |
| Late yesterday, Scott Morrison spoke about that meeting Murph just wrote about. Here is what he had to say: | Late yesterday, Scott Morrison spoke about that meeting Murph just wrote about. Here is what he had to say: |
| I think what we saw today is that there is much analysis about the relationships that countries have with China and I think there is indeed a lot of over-analysis of those relationships and whether it’s the United States and China, or anyone else. And I simply made the point, which was well received, that Australia is an independent sovereign nation. | I think what we saw today is that there is much analysis about the relationships that countries have with China and I think there is indeed a lot of over-analysis of those relationships and whether it’s the United States and China, or anyone else. And I simply made the point, which was well received, that Australia is an independent sovereign nation. |
| Yes, we are very much proud of our western liberal democratic tradition, our open economy and our engagement with the rest of the world, and that gives us a set of eyes that look into the world very much from our perspective. And I respect the fact that whether it’s China, or indeed Indonesia or any other country in this part of the world, they will have their unique perspective and that’s all fine. There’s no issues with that. | Yes, we are very much proud of our western liberal democratic tradition, our open economy and our engagement with the rest of the world, and that gives us a set of eyes that look into the world very much from our perspective. And I respect the fact that whether it’s China, or indeed Indonesia or any other country in this part of the world, they will have their unique perspective and that’s all fine. There’s no issues with that. |
| But what we also stressed today was, is that we will never feel corralled into any sort of binary assessment of these relationships. Binary assessments of a relationship which says pro-United States or pro-China, as Australia has a comprehensive strategic partnership with China and we have an enduring, and incredibly important alliance with the United States which is fundamental to our security. We have our biggest investment partnership with the United States and our biggest trade partnership with China and these are not mutually exclusive. | But what we also stressed today was, is that we will never feel corralled into any sort of binary assessment of these relationships. Binary assessments of a relationship which says pro-United States or pro-China, as Australia has a comprehensive strategic partnership with China and we have an enduring, and incredibly important alliance with the United States which is fundamental to our security. We have our biggest investment partnership with the United States and our biggest trade partnership with China and these are not mutually exclusive. |
| And the comments that I’ve made, particularly more recently which have been quite stoically in support of this independent, anti-binary view, I think are very well received. I took the opportunity to congratulate China on where they were able to get to with the United States on the first phase of their trade discussions. I think that’s very good for the global economy and I think it bears out the optimism that we’ve always had about rejecting this binary nature. | And the comments that I’ve made, particularly more recently which have been quite stoically in support of this independent, anti-binary view, I think are very well received. I took the opportunity to congratulate China on where they were able to get to with the United States on the first phase of their trade discussions. I think that’s very good for the global economy and I think it bears out the optimism that we’ve always had about rejecting this binary nature. |
| It’s simply a fact that China has arrived at an incredibly impressive point in its economic history. It’s impossible to dispute that. And that means that they’ve done incredibly well and raises their level of technological achievement and capability. Similarly, more broadly in their economy but also say, militarily, and that’s a reflection of the significant progress they’ve made over that time. And so, you know, one can only acknowledge that and then pursue our partnership based on our interests, which are aligned with China to the extent that we have both done so incredibly well out of their success. And so that was the dominating part of our discussion today. | It’s simply a fact that China has arrived at an incredibly impressive point in its economic history. It’s impossible to dispute that. And that means that they’ve done incredibly well and raises their level of technological achievement and capability. Similarly, more broadly in their economy but also say, militarily, and that’s a reflection of the significant progress they’ve made over that time. And so, you know, one can only acknowledge that and then pursue our partnership based on our interests, which are aligned with China to the extent that we have both done so incredibly well out of their success. And so that was the dominating part of our discussion today. |
| It’s interesting that the prime minister used a visit to observe the Indonesian president Joko Widodo’s inauguration to have a meeting with the Chinese vice-president, Wang Qishan. | It’s interesting that the prime minister used a visit to observe the Indonesian president Joko Widodo’s inauguration to have a meeting with the Chinese vice-president, Wang Qishan. |
| I’ve written a lot over the past month or two about Scott Morrison’s efforts to align Australia and the US but less about the effort over the same time period to warm up the relationship with Beijing. | I’ve written a lot over the past month or two about Scott Morrison’s efforts to align Australia and the US but less about the effort over the same time period to warm up the relationship with Beijing. |
| Over the past couple of months, the foreign minister, Marise Payne, has met her Chinese counterpart twice (most recently in New York during UN leaders week), and now this meeting in Jakarta. | Over the past couple of months, the foreign minister, Marise Payne, has met her Chinese counterpart twice (most recently in New York during UN leaders week), and now this meeting in Jakarta. |
| Australia sought the meeting and it was approved by the Chinese president, Xi Jinping. | Australia sought the meeting and it was approved by the Chinese president, Xi Jinping. |
| Anthony Albanese was also asked about press freedoms yesterday –and why Labor is now pushing for change | Anthony Albanese was also asked about press freedoms yesterday –and why Labor is now pushing for change |
| Well, the urgency is that what we didn’t see under Labor governments was consecutive raids on journalists. What we didn’t see was the sort of attacks on media freedom and what we also wouldn’t have seen, to be frank, is a prime minister, who when first asked about this in London, basically said: ‘Nothing to see here.’ It is a dismissal as a government that wasn’t prepared to protect media freedom. The government needs to step up to the plate here. Labor’s prepared to. The government should as well. | Well, the urgency is that what we didn’t see under Labor governments was consecutive raids on journalists. What we didn’t see was the sort of attacks on media freedom and what we also wouldn’t have seen, to be frank, is a prime minister, who when first asked about this in London, basically said: ‘Nothing to see here.’ It is a dismissal as a government that wasn’t prepared to protect media freedom. The government needs to step up to the plate here. Labor’s prepared to. The government should as well. |
| Scott Morrison was asked about press freedoms yesterday, while in Indonesia: | Scott Morrison was asked about press freedoms yesterday, while in Indonesia: |
| Well, we are, and we have a process currently going on the way at the moment in a joint parliamentary inquiry. We’ve already acted to issue the minister for home affairs’ guidelines and direction which I think both well codify what the processes are, and in fact improve them, and I think that’s been well received, particularly by groups like the AFP which are finding those instructions very, very helpful. So I do think that’s an improvement, but we’ll still await the report from the inquiry. | Well, we are, and we have a process currently going on the way at the moment in a joint parliamentary inquiry. We’ve already acted to issue the minister for home affairs’ guidelines and direction which I think both well codify what the processes are, and in fact improve them, and I think that’s been well received, particularly by groups like the AFP which are finding those instructions very, very helpful. So I do think that’s an improvement, but we’ll still await the report from the inquiry. |
| But let me simply say this – my government will always believe in freedom of the press. It’s an important part of our freedoms as a liberal democracy. Also believe in the rule of law and that no one is above it, including me or anyone else, any journalist or anyone else. And the rule of law has to be applied evenly and fairly in the protection of our broader freedoms. And so I don’t think anyone is, I hope, looking for a leave pass on any of those things, I wouldn’t and nor should anyone else. | But let me simply say this – my government will always believe in freedom of the press. It’s an important part of our freedoms as a liberal democracy. Also believe in the rule of law and that no one is above it, including me or anyone else, any journalist or anyone else. And the rule of law has to be applied evenly and fairly in the protection of our broader freedoms. And so I don’t think anyone is, I hope, looking for a leave pass on any of those things, I wouldn’t and nor should anyone else. |
| Barnaby Joyce had a few things to say about the media freedom laws – it went as you would expect. | Barnaby Joyce had a few things to say about the media freedom laws – it went as you would expect. |
| “To get respect around the term public interest, you've got to act in the public interest” @Barnaby_Joyce “You can't say putting a pregnant woman crossing the street on your front page is in the public interest - which you did - and give yourself a Walkley for it” #auspol pic.twitter.com/U2sSYCNwSn | “To get respect around the term public interest, you've got to act in the public interest” @Barnaby_Joyce “You can't say putting a pregnant woman crossing the street on your front page is in the public interest - which you did - and give yourself a Walkley for it” #auspol pic.twitter.com/U2sSYCNwSn |
| Welcome to day one of Senate estimates! | Welcome to day one of Senate estimates! |
| The House will sit while the senators do their thing in the committee rooms. It’ll be the first time we’ve seen Penny Wong really unleashed since the election, so that in itself should be something. | The House will sit while the senators do their thing in the committee rooms. It’ll be the first time we’ve seen Penny Wong really unleashed since the election, so that in itself should be something. |
| Kristina Keneally also gets some time with the home affairs officials, so that’s another one to watch. | Kristina Keneally also gets some time with the home affairs officials, so that’s another one to watch. |
| Scott Morrison arrived back in Australia (he was in Indonesia yesterday for Joko Widodo’s inauguration as president) to an unchanged Newspoll (yes, insert all the polling caveats here), 51 to 49, in the Coalition’s favour. | Scott Morrison arrived back in Australia (he was in Indonesia yesterday for Joko Widodo’s inauguration as president) to an unchanged Newspoll (yes, insert all the polling caveats here), 51 to 49, in the Coalition’s favour. |
| The “big stick” energy laws will be debated (Labor has given its support, despite originally opposing them) and religious discrimination will be back on the agenda. The medevac inquiry bill was tabled on Friday – it went, as you would expect, down party lines, with negotiations with Jacqui Lambie ongoing. | The “big stick” energy laws will be debated (Labor has given its support, despite originally opposing them) and religious discrimination will be back on the agenda. The medevac inquiry bill was tabled on Friday – it went, as you would expect, down party lines, with negotiations with Jacqui Lambie ongoing. |
| The Senate can’t vote on those until it next sits in November, and that is where the legislation’s fate hangs. Lambie is the swing vote – and she will spend the next few weeks continuing to meet with everyone who has something to say on this legislation before casting her vote. | The Senate can’t vote on those until it next sits in November, and that is where the legislation’s fate hangs. Lambie is the swing vote – and she will spend the next few weeks continuing to meet with everyone who has something to say on this legislation before casting her vote. |
| And all of the Canberra going ons are happening as media companies unite against the secrecy laws which make it increasingly difficult to do our jobs. | And all of the Canberra going ons are happening as media companies unite against the secrecy laws which make it increasingly difficult to do our jobs. |
| As Guardian Australia’s editor, Lenore Taylor, has laid out: | As Guardian Australia’s editor, Lenore Taylor, has laid out: |
| We have six core demands: | We have six core demands: |
| The right to challenge the government’s application for warrants against journalists and media organisations, before they are issued. | The right to challenge the government’s application for warrants against journalists and media organisations, before they are issued. |
| Exemptions for journalists from laws that would put them in jail for doing their jobs, including the security laws enacted over the last seven years. | Exemptions for journalists from laws that would put them in jail for doing their jobs, including the security laws enacted over the last seven years. |
| Adequate legislated protections for public sector whistleblowers. | Adequate legislated protections for public sector whistleblowers. |
| A new regime to limit which documents can be stamped secret. | A new regime to limit which documents can be stamped secret. |
| Reform of the freedom of information regime. | Reform of the freedom of information regime. |
| Reform to laws that make Australia the defamation capital of the world. | Reform to laws that make Australia the defamation capital of the world. |
| We’ll have all of that, as well as everything else. Mike Bowers will be with you, as will Katharine Murphy, Sarah Martin and Paul Karp. I will find another coffee and find some more brain cells to be with you in just a moment. | We’ll have all of that, as well as everything else. Mike Bowers will be with you, as will Katharine Murphy, Sarah Martin and Paul Karp. I will find another coffee and find some more brain cells to be with you in just a moment. |
| Ready? | Ready? |
| Let’s get into it. | Let’s get into it. |