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| General election: politicians from seven parties grilled in ITV debate – live news | |
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| All the day’s developments including the Greens, Brexit party, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Lib Dems joining two main parties for TV debate in Salford | All the day’s developments including the Greens, Brexit party, SNP, Plaid Cymru and Lib Dems joining two main parties for TV debate in Salford |
| Here’s a reminder of one of the moments in the debate that is likely to be best remembered, in which Nigel Farage said “men say bad things sometimes” in reference to sexist comments by Donald Trump. | |
| They are asked to give their final statements. | They are asked to give their final statements. |
| Farage says that he hopes that the audience has enjoyed the talent show. He’s failed at being the most politically correct candidate, which hasn’t impressed people in the studio, but might have impressed people at home, he says. | Farage says that he hopes that the audience has enjoyed the talent show. He’s failed at being the most politically correct candidate, which hasn’t impressed people in the studio, but might have impressed people at home, he says. |
| Sunak says the choice is between Boris Johnson getting Brexit done by the end of January or Corbyn staying neutral and having more referenda. | Sunak says the choice is between Boris Johnson getting Brexit done by the end of January or Corbyn staying neutral and having more referenda. |
| Burgon says that a Labour government would “support you and invest in your community”. “We are on your side,” he says. “We are for the many, not the few”. | Burgon says that a Labour government would “support you and invest in your community”. “We are on your side,” he says. “We are for the many, not the few”. |
| Price says that education was his route out of poverty. There are children in Wales that are going to school hungry. Putting faith in Westminster parties allows the cycle of poverty to continue. | Price says that education was his route out of poverty. There are children in Wales that are going to school hungry. Putting faith in Westminster parties allows the cycle of poverty to continue. |
| Berry says that Greens don’t fear the future, they are the future. You can trust us to tell the truth and hold government to account, she says. “Vote Green. If not now, when?” | Berry says that Greens don’t fear the future, they are the future. You can trust us to tell the truth and hold government to account, she says. “Vote Green. If not now, when?” |
| Swinson says that “get Brexit done” is just Johnson’s latest lie. The Lib Dems are the only party that can stop Boris Johnson, she says. | Swinson says that “get Brexit done” is just Johnson’s latest lie. The Lib Dems are the only party that can stop Boris Johnson, she says. |
| Sturgeon says that Johnson’s Tories are unfit for office, but unless we vote them out they will be in government for years. She adds that the SNP is the challenger in every Tory-held seat in Scotland. | Sturgeon says that Johnson’s Tories are unfit for office, but unless we vote them out they will be in government for years. She adds that the SNP is the challenger in every Tory-held seat in Scotland. |
| On social care, Swinson says this is exactly the issue that requires cross-party working, but that the Conservative government has delayed it for years. Sunak says: “Next year should we spend time talking about these kinds of issues, or Brexit?” | On social care, Swinson says this is exactly the issue that requires cross-party working, but that the Conservative government has delayed it for years. Sunak says: “Next year should we spend time talking about these kinds of issues, or Brexit?” |
| Sturgeon says that free personal care has existed in Scotland for a decade. These parties need to get on with it, she says. | Sturgeon says that free personal care has existed in Scotland for a decade. These parties need to get on with it, she says. |
| Some reaction to the debate so far: | Some reaction to the debate so far: |
| The politicians are asked a question on why politicians can’t work together on the big questions like climate change and social care. Adam Price says that no party has a monopoly on the truth and that we need to look at the use of citizens’ assemblies, as they have done in Ireland. | The politicians are asked a question on why politicians can’t work together on the big questions like climate change and social care. Adam Price says that no party has a monopoly on the truth and that we need to look at the use of citizens’ assemblies, as they have done in Ireland. |
| Burgon says they can’t work with the Tories on anything at all because they brought in austerity, among other things. Sturgeon says that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are the roadblocks on climate change and social care, so it’s important to keep them out of government. | Burgon says they can’t work with the Tories on anything at all because they brought in austerity, among other things. Sturgeon says that Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage are the roadblocks on climate change and social care, so it’s important to keep them out of government. |
| Berry says that “this is how the Greens work” because they are rarely in government. They often work with other parties to push them to act on the big issues, she says. | Berry says that “this is how the Greens work” because they are rarely in government. They often work with other parties to push them to act on the big issues, she says. |
| Sunak says that he has two small daughters who care deeply about environmental issues. He says that although parties have a different approach on how to get there, they all want to get to the same point. | Sunak says that he has two small daughters who care deeply about environmental issues. He says that although parties have a different approach on how to get there, they all want to get to the same point. |
| Farage says that the approach to climate change by the main parties will put a lot of people out of work, so would be making the poor pay instead of the rich. Berry says that her party’s policies would create three million jobs. | Farage says that the approach to climate change by the main parties will put a lot of people out of work, so would be making the poor pay instead of the rich. Berry says that her party’s policies would create three million jobs. |
| Swinson says that she has worked with politicians across the spectrum on a variety of issues. Sturgeon says she doesn’t think it was the right thing to do for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives to bring in austerity and policies like the bedroom tax. | Swinson says that she has worked with politicians across the spectrum on a variety of issues. Sturgeon says she doesn’t think it was the right thing to do for the Lib Dems to work with the Conservatives to bring in austerity and policies like the bedroom tax. |
| On the idea that “Trump wants to buy the NHS”, Sunak tells Burgon: “You really must stop making these reckless allegations”. | On the idea that “Trump wants to buy the NHS”, Sunak tells Burgon: “You really must stop making these reckless allegations”. |
| Farage says Trump “isn’t going to buy it, Richard”. Burgon brings up the recording of Farage saying that the UK should look at an insurance model for healthcare. The Brexit party leader says he never said that. “Dear oh dear. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie,” says Farage. | Farage says Trump “isn’t going to buy it, Richard”. Burgon brings up the recording of Farage saying that the UK should look at an insurance model for healthcare. The Brexit party leader says he never said that. “Dear oh dear. Lie, lie, lie, lie, lie,” says Farage. |
| Again, here’s our story on that, for a bit of background. | Again, here’s our story on that, for a bit of background. |
| Burgon says there’s a real risk that Johnson is going to do a “sweetheart deal” with Donald Trump on the NHS. Price says that the biggest threat to the NHS in Wales is the Labour government, not Trump. Burgon accuses the Plaid leader of playing Tory games by attacking Labour and not them. | Burgon says there’s a real risk that Johnson is going to do a “sweetheart deal” with Donald Trump on the NHS. Price says that the biggest threat to the NHS in Wales is the Labour government, not Trump. Burgon accuses the Plaid leader of playing Tory games by attacking Labour and not them. |
| Siân Berry says that the credit rating agencies downgraded the UK’s credit scores, so it is not true to say that the Conservatives had managed the economy well. Sunak said he’s read the report and that they had said this was because of the uncertainty caused by Brexit. Berry says that uncertainty was caused by his party’s mishandling of Brexit. | Siân Berry says that the credit rating agencies downgraded the UK’s credit scores, so it is not true to say that the Conservatives had managed the economy well. Sunak said he’s read the report and that they had said this was because of the uncertainty caused by Brexit. Berry says that uncertainty was caused by his party’s mishandling of Brexit. |
| Burgon is asked about the IFS’s assessment that Tory and Labour plans were unfeasible. Burgon says that the IFS is entitled to its opinion, but that other thinktanks have taken a different view. | Burgon is asked about the IFS’s assessment that Tory and Labour plans were unfeasible. Burgon says that the IFS is entitled to its opinion, but that other thinktanks have taken a different view. |
| Sunak says that debt will be down with a Conservative government. Farage tells him to stop lying. “You cut the deficit and not the debt,” he said. “Debt is massively up.” | Sunak says that debt will be down with a Conservative government. Farage tells him to stop lying. “You cut the deficit and not the debt,” he said. “Debt is massively up.” |
| Sturgeon says it is rich for Farage to accuse someone else of lying after the line that the UK would be able to spend an extra £350m on the NHS after Brexit. Farage says he never campaigned under that slogan. | Sturgeon says it is rich for Farage to accuse someone else of lying after the line that the UK would be able to spend an extra £350m on the NHS after Brexit. Farage says he never campaigned under that slogan. |
| From Nazia Parveen backstage in Salford: | From Nazia Parveen backstage in Salford: |
| Disbelief and a fair amount of shock across the political spectrum backstage in ITV’s spin room when Farage defended Donald Trump saying “men say bad things sometimes”. | Disbelief and a fair amount of shock across the political spectrum backstage in ITV’s spin room when Farage defended Donald Trump saying “men say bad things sometimes”. |