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Ahead of Trump’s arrival for Nato, Lib Dem leader said leaders should be ‘very careful’ about relationship with the president | Ahead of Trump’s arrival for Nato, Lib Dem leader said leaders should be ‘very careful’ about relationship with the president |
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Q: There are quite a few claims that the manifesto talks about all cars becoming electric with 80% renewable energy. However political parties are scarce on describing how they will meet this claim. What is the strategy for green energy research, application and electric car infrastructure implementation? Jordan Bizzell, 24, architectural assistant, London | |
On the subject of renewable energy, the party does have some ambitious plans to shift to more sustainable sources, as well as energy-saving measures such as home insulation. It’s arguably not as ambitious as the Labour “green industrial revolution” plan, let alone that of the Greens (who came up with the green new deal concept), and credibility for such programmes can be debated. One issue is that it is sometimes hard to tell how well new energy mixes will work before they’re in place. For example, there was huge scepticism in the past about the cost and reliability of wind power … until wind power ended up being cheaper and more reliable than many said. | |
The party says all new cars should be electric by 2030, but also wants to invest more in public transport and active travel (walking and cycling, that is). E-car infrastructure is a tricky business in general, not least for people who don’t have driveways and need on-street charging. Entirely off the subject of the Lib Dems and on to my own interests, it’s worth noting that while e-cars are, of course, much better than, say, diesel ones, they don’t solve lots of other issues such as congestion, road danger, health issues from inactive lifestyles and so on. They don’t even solve all pollution problems, given new research into the problems caused by particulates from tyre and brake wear. But I digress. | |
Q: What is the thinking behind ‘help to rent’? Wouldn’t it just make renters such as myself poorer and more burdened with debt? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to limit the size of deposits? Nathaniel McKenzie, 26, publisher, London | |
On the assumption you mean the “rent to own” idea, this seems to be an idea to help people be able to buy a home – but only if they want to. This would be for social housing, letting people who cannot afford to raise a deposit to buy a property instead buy their social home over 30 years, by letting their rent payments gradually pay off the cost of the home. This is, of course, in part a long-term help-to-buy scheme, which would deplete the stock of social housing, But the party says it would build at least 100,000 new social rent homes every year. | |
In an interview with Paul Waugh for HuffPost UK, Len McCluskey, the Unite general secretary, said that leave-voting seats in the north of England and the Midlands were Labour’s “achilles heel” at this election. Many people in these areas were not yet sure how to vote, he said. | |
McCluskey said that, if Labour were to form a government and negotiate a new version of Brexit, Unite could hold a special conference to decide whether it would back the deal, instead of backing remain as it did in 2016. | |
A strong supporter of Jeremy Corbyn, McCluskey also acknowledged that his leadership was an issue for some voters. But he suggested that the media and disloyal Labour MPs were largely responsible for this being a problem. He explained: | |
Just under 15 minutes left to ask any questions you may have on the Lib Dem manifesto. Send them in to us here. | Just under 15 minutes left to ask any questions you may have on the Lib Dem manifesto. Send them in to us here. |
Q: Why are there so many ads which misrepresent the proportion of votes the Lib Dems received in the previous GE? I have seen multiple examples of Lab/Con marginals where the Lib Dems are trying to make people believe it’s actually a Lib Dem/Con marginal when in fact a Labour voter switching to Lib Dems will make a hard Brexit more likely. It makes me distrust the party. Matthew, Oxford | Q: Why are there so many ads which misrepresent the proportion of votes the Lib Dems received in the previous GE? I have seen multiple examples of Lab/Con marginals where the Lib Dems are trying to make people believe it’s actually a Lib Dem/Con marginal when in fact a Labour voter switching to Lib Dems will make a hard Brexit more likely. It makes me distrust the party. Matthew, Oxford |
The Lib Dems have something of a reputation for sharp-elbowed practices in elections, and a particular notoriety for bar charts with very dubious scales. When I went out campaigning with Luciana Berger in Finchley and Golders Green she was at pains to show off the scale of the chart on her leaflets, saying it had been “measured to the nearest millimetre”. One confusion can be that the Lib Dems use various polls or election results. | The Lib Dems have something of a reputation for sharp-elbowed practices in elections, and a particular notoriety for bar charts with very dubious scales. When I went out campaigning with Luciana Berger in Finchley and Golders Green she was at pains to show off the scale of the chart on her leaflets, saying it had been “measured to the nearest millimetre”. One confusion can be that the Lib Dems use various polls or election results. |
So, in Finchley and Golders Green, while the Lib Dems were a distant third in the 2017 election behind the Tories and Labour, Berger’s chart showed a recent constituency poll which put her in second. It was a legitimate poll, so that seems fair enough. Other tactics are more dubious, for example citing council or European results as evidence the Lib Dems can win in an area. And the party has been criticised for other tricks – for example printing fake “newspapers” that look a lot like the genuine local paper. | So, in Finchley and Golders Green, while the Lib Dems were a distant third in the 2017 election behind the Tories and Labour, Berger’s chart showed a recent constituency poll which put her in second. It was a legitimate poll, so that seems fair enough. Other tactics are more dubious, for example citing council or European results as evidence the Lib Dems can win in an area. And the party has been criticised for other tricks – for example printing fake “newspapers” that look a lot like the genuine local paper. |
Q: Hi, I can find nothing in the Liberal Democrat manifesto about fishing and CFP reform. Do they actually have a policy on this? Thanks. Alastair S. Edwards, 48, music and English teacher, near Jablonec nad Nisou in the Czech Republic | Q: Hi, I can find nothing in the Liberal Democrat manifesto about fishing and CFP reform. Do they actually have a policy on this? Thanks. Alastair S. Edwards, 48, music and English teacher, near Jablonec nad Nisou in the Czech Republic |
You’re right - there doesn’t seem to be anything in there. The party’s manifesto for the European elections in May also doesn’t mention it. I’m afraid I can’t add much, as I’ve never heard any senior Lib Dem people discuss the issue. So I’m not much help here. | You’re right - there doesn’t seem to be anything in there. The party’s manifesto for the European elections in May also doesn’t mention it. I’m afraid I can’t add much, as I’ve never heard any senior Lib Dem people discuss the issue. So I’m not much help here. |
Q: Introducing a written constitution for a federal United Kingdom sounds very radical, why am I not hearing more about it? How would they achieve that? Jason, 28, edit assistant, London | Q: Introducing a written constitution for a federal United Kingdom sounds very radical, why am I not hearing more about it? How would they achieve that? Jason, 28, edit assistant, London |
The party has long been a champion of constitutional reform, most obviously through its longstanding support for a proportional voting system. The party’s manifesto promises all sorts of changes such as Commons constituencies for overseas voters (MP for the south of France could be popular), giving 16- and 17-year-olds the vote, and making the Lords democratic. Some elements are, however, a bit vague, not least the plan for “a written constitution for a federal United Kingdom”. This would, of course, involve changing centuries of precedent and would keep constitutional experts in work for years. How would they do that? I’m afraid your guess is as good as mine. | |
At the Brexit party event, Nigel Farage, the party leader, also described the Labour claim that the NHS would be sold off to the Americans under a UK-US trade deal as “the biggest lie of this election”. He said that he hoped Donald Trump would deny this during his visit to the UK for this week’s Nato conference. He said: | At the Brexit party event, Nigel Farage, the party leader, also described the Labour claim that the NHS would be sold off to the Americans under a UK-US trade deal as “the biggest lie of this election”. He said that he hoped Donald Trump would deny this during his visit to the UK for this week’s Nato conference. He said: |
Farage claimed that he had no influence over what Trump would say, but he has a good relationship with the Trump White House and it did sound as if he expected Trump to make an intervention along these lines later this week. | Farage claimed that he had no influence over what Trump would say, but he has a good relationship with the Trump White House and it did sound as if he expected Trump to make an intervention along these lines later this week. |
You have been sending in your questions about the Lib Dem manifesto which I will be answering until 1.30pm. You can share your questions with us via our form here. | You have been sending in your questions about the Lib Dem manifesto which I will be answering until 1.30pm. You can share your questions with us via our form here. |
Q: How exactly can they revoke article 50? I’d like someone to explain how they can legally overturn article 50 and the impact it could have on future government decisions. Suzi, manual labour worker in a warehouse, West Yorkshire | Q: How exactly can they revoke article 50? I’d like someone to explain how they can legally overturn article 50 and the impact it could have on future government decisions. Suzi, manual labour worker in a warehouse, West Yorkshire |
If desired, the UK could revoke article 50 but doing nothing more than writing a letter to the European council. In 2018, the European court of justice confirmed this could be done unilaterally. In legal terms, this is a very specific issue so would seem to have no bearing on future governments. Politically it would be viewed with dismay by some voters. But the Lib Dems argue that since they would only do this in the (extremely unlikely) event of the party winning an absolute majority in parliament, this would be a mandate from the people. And constitutionally they are quite correct. Whether it was tactically a good idea to promise this, as a “more remain than you” sign to distance the party from Labour, remains to be seen. Some senior Lib Dems are not 100% happy with it. | If desired, the UK could revoke article 50 but doing nothing more than writing a letter to the European council. In 2018, the European court of justice confirmed this could be done unilaterally. In legal terms, this is a very specific issue so would seem to have no bearing on future governments. Politically it would be viewed with dismay by some voters. But the Lib Dems argue that since they would only do this in the (extremely unlikely) event of the party winning an absolute majority in parliament, this would be a mandate from the people. And constitutionally they are quite correct. Whether it was tactically a good idea to promise this, as a “more remain than you” sign to distance the party from Labour, remains to be seen. Some senior Lib Dems are not 100% happy with it. |
Q: How will the Lib Dems fight for UK citizens in Europe, especially retirees. Patrick Markby, nearly 70, retired chef, Montpellier, France | Q: How will the Lib Dems fight for UK citizens in Europe, especially retirees. Patrick Markby, nearly 70, retired chef, Montpellier, France |
They would say that the best way to do that would be to stop Brexit altogether, and let the status quo continue for UK nationals living in the rest of the EU. The Lib Dems have not, as yet, got into what policies they would seek to mitigate the impact of Brexit on people like you. For electoral reasons they don’t really want to discuss a preferred sort of departure, as their overwhelming election message is to cancel the whole thing. So I’m afraid I can’t really add much. | They would say that the best way to do that would be to stop Brexit altogether, and let the status quo continue for UK nationals living in the rest of the EU. The Lib Dems have not, as yet, got into what policies they would seek to mitigate the impact of Brexit on people like you. For electoral reasons they don’t really want to discuss a preferred sort of departure, as their overwhelming election message is to cancel the whole thing. So I’m afraid I can’t really add much. |
Q: What are the strongest and the weakest parts of the Liberal Democrats’ message? Laird Taylor, Victoria, Canada | Q: What are the strongest and the weakest parts of the Liberal Democrats’ message? Laird Taylor, Victoria, Canada |
If you asked ten Lib Dem activists, you might well get 10 – or at least six or seven – different answers. They have bet the house on tempting over large numbers of remain-minded Tory and Labour voters with an overwhelming anti-Brexit focus. The other key element has been a near-presidential spotlight on Jo Swinson (the party’s two battlebuses both carry the slogan, “Jo Swinson’s Liberal Democrats”). | If you asked ten Lib Dem activists, you might well get 10 – or at least six or seven – different answers. They have bet the house on tempting over large numbers of remain-minded Tory and Labour voters with an overwhelming anti-Brexit focus. The other key element has been a near-presidential spotlight on Jo Swinson (the party’s two battlebuses both carry the slogan, “Jo Swinson’s Liberal Democrats”). |
Both these could be strengths ... but given the way the party has slipped gradually in the polls, they have not been so far. One strength could be the revised central message to urge voters to vote tactically and help Lib Dems defeat Tory candidates in some seats and thus deprive Boris Johnson of a majority. With the Conservatives strongly ahead in the polls, and Johnson a highly divisive character, that could resonate. | Both these could be strengths ... but given the way the party has slipped gradually in the polls, they have not been so far. One strength could be the revised central message to urge voters to vote tactically and help Lib Dems defeat Tory candidates in some seats and thus deprive Boris Johnson of a majority. With the Conservatives strongly ahead in the polls, and Johnson a highly divisive character, that could resonate. |
Here is the main point from Nigel Farage’s speech at the Brexit party rally in Buckley in North Wales. | Here is the main point from Nigel Farage’s speech at the Brexit party rally in Buckley in North Wales. |
Farage claimed that if the UK were to join the proposed European defence union after Brexit, Nato would collapse. He claimed that the UK faced a binary choice, between Nato and the European defence union, and he claimed that Boris Johnson was refusing to say which he preferred. He claimed that the Europeans wanted Nato out of Europe. He said: | Farage claimed that if the UK were to join the proposed European defence union after Brexit, Nato would collapse. He claimed that the UK faced a binary choice, between Nato and the European defence union, and he claimed that Boris Johnson was refusing to say which he preferred. He claimed that the Europeans wanted Nato out of Europe. He said: |
Farage went on to say that Johnson had to make a choice. | Farage went on to say that Johnson had to make a choice. |
And Farage said that, if the UK were to choose the European option, Nato would collapse. | And Farage said that, if the UK were to choose the European option, Nato would collapse. |
This is a relatively new argument from Farage - although it is founded on several questionable assumptions. | This is a relatively new argument from Farage - although it is founded on several questionable assumptions. |
First, the European defence union does not actually exist yet. It is an aspiration, and EU countries are moving closer to the idea, but it does not exist yet in the form that Farage implies. This Commons briefing paper (pdf) contains more detail. | First, the European defence union does not actually exist yet. It is an aspiration, and EU countries are moving closer to the idea, but it does not exist yet in the form that Farage implies. This Commons briefing paper (pdf) contains more detail. |
Second, it is just not true to say that Europeans “want Nato out of Europe”. Some EU leaders have reservations about Nato, but there are many countries were it is still seen as an essential protection. | Second, it is just not true to say that Europeans “want Nato out of Europe”. Some EU leaders have reservations about Nato, but there are many countries were it is still seen as an essential protection. |
Third, where European do have reservations about Nato, it is not so much because they have lost faith in the concept of collective security; it is more to do with the fact that, with Farage’s ally Donald Trump in the White House, there are real concerns that the US is a less reliable ally than it once was. | Third, where European do have reservations about Nato, it is not so much because they have lost faith in the concept of collective security; it is more to do with the fact that, with Farage’s ally Donald Trump in the White House, there are real concerns that the US is a less reliable ally than it once was. |
And, fourth, it is not inevitable that Nato could not co-exist with a European defence union. The Americans want the Europeans to invest more in defence, and so arguably, if the EU were to have its own defence capability, Nato would be more secure, not less. | And, fourth, it is not inevitable that Nato could not co-exist with a European defence union. The Americans want the Europeans to invest more in defence, and so arguably, if the EU were to have its own defence capability, Nato would be more secure, not less. |
Some of your questions so far have been about the Gender Recognition Act and the legalisation of cannabis: | Some of your questions so far have been about the Gender Recognition Act and the legalisation of cannabis: |
Q: Does the Lib Dem manifesto have anything to say about the Gender Recognition Act? Does it want people who self-identify as the opposite sex to be able to obtain a gender recognition certificate and therefore a new birth certificate? Jane, London | Q: Does the Lib Dem manifesto have anything to say about the Gender Recognition Act? Does it want people who self-identify as the opposite sex to be able to obtain a gender recognition certificate and therefore a new birth certificate? Jane, London |
The manifesto says this on the issue, in its section on equality: “Complete reform of the Gender Recognition Act to remove the requirement for medical reports, scrap the fee and recognise non-binary gender identities.” In truth, I’ve not covered this area of the manifesto, or talked to any Lib Dems about this, so I don’t know a whole lot more than this. In my defence, the manifesto is 96 pages long. | The manifesto says this on the issue, in its section on equality: “Complete reform of the Gender Recognition Act to remove the requirement for medical reports, scrap the fee and recognise non-binary gender identities.” In truth, I’ve not covered this area of the manifesto, or talked to any Lib Dems about this, so I don’t know a whole lot more than this. In my defence, the manifesto is 96 pages long. |
Q: Are the Lib Dems 100% banning fracking? I want to know this as Jo Swinson has voted in favour of fracking in the past, which I believe is despicable. Jules, Cornwall | Q: Are the Lib Dems 100% banning fracking? I want to know this as Jo Swinson has voted in favour of fracking in the past, which I believe is despicable. Jules, Cornwall |
Their manifesto is unequivocal on this. On its sections about a green economy four, “priorities for a first parliament”. One says: “Investing in renewable power so that at least 80% of UK electricity is generated from renewables by 2030 – and banning fracking for good.” More generally, Swinson has been keen to try and distance herself from decisions taken under the 2010-15 coalition, when she held a series of junior ministerial roles. It’s up to voters to decide on this. | Their manifesto is unequivocal on this. On its sections about a green economy four, “priorities for a first parliament”. One says: “Investing in renewable power so that at least 80% of UK electricity is generated from renewables by 2030 – and banning fracking for good.” More generally, Swinson has been keen to try and distance herself from decisions taken under the 2010-15 coalition, when she held a series of junior ministerial roles. It’s up to voters to decide on this. |
Q: What are the implications of the legalising cannabis proposal? How popular is it and what do medical professionals say? Michael, 50s, manager in the charity sector, St Albans | Q: What are the implications of the legalising cannabis proposal? How popular is it and what do medical professionals say? Michael, 50s, manager in the charity sector, St Albans |
That’s arguably a bit outside the remit of this chat, but it’s worth noting that the Lib Dems have advocated drug decriminalisation in earlier elections. The costings document for the current manifesto shows the party would expect revenues of almost £1.5bn a year in duties on cannabis and savings on law enforcement. More widely, you can – and people do – argue endlessly about drug decriminalisation, but there are plenty of experts, and doctors, who argue in favour of it, in various forms, as well as treating the wider issue of drug use as a public health rather than a criminal matter. | That’s arguably a bit outside the remit of this chat, but it’s worth noting that the Lib Dems have advocated drug decriminalisation in earlier elections. The costings document for the current manifesto shows the party would expect revenues of almost £1.5bn a year in duties on cannabis and savings on law enforcement. More widely, you can – and people do – argue endlessly about drug decriminalisation, but there are plenty of experts, and doctors, who argue in favour of it, in various forms, as well as treating the wider issue of drug use as a public health rather than a criminal matter. |
I’m Peter Walker, a political correspondent for the Guardian, and will be answering your questions on the Liberal Democrat manifesto today. I have spent much of this election campaign following the party around, including trips on both their battle buses. I have been covering politics since just after the Brexit referendum, and previously wrote about national and international news. Before joining the Guardian I worked for various other organisations, including Agence France-Presse, where I was based in Beijing, Hong Kong and Paris. | I’m Peter Walker, a political correspondent for the Guardian, and will be answering your questions on the Liberal Democrat manifesto today. I have spent much of this election campaign following the party around, including trips on both their battle buses. I have been covering politics since just after the Brexit referendum, and previously wrote about national and international news. Before joining the Guardian I worked for various other organisations, including Agence France-Presse, where I was based in Beijing, Hong Kong and Paris. |
If you have a question you can send it to us by filling in the form here. | If you have a question you can send it to us by filling in the form here. |
Nigel Farage is now taking questions. | Nigel Farage is now taking questions. |
Asked about his decision to stand down Brexit party candidates in Tory-held constituencies, he says he did not want to take the risk of a hung parliament and putting “that Swinson girl” anywhere near power. | Asked about his decision to stand down Brexit party candidates in Tory-held constituencies, he says he did not want to take the risk of a hung parliament and putting “that Swinson girl” anywhere near power. |
Farage says it is wrong for Labour to say President Trump poses a threat to the EU. | Farage says it is wrong for Labour to say President Trump poses a threat to the EU. |
He says it was Labour that extended privatisation in the NHS, leading to the spread of superbugs in hospitals because cleaning services had been privatised, he says. | He says it was Labour that extended privatisation in the NHS, leading to the spread of superbugs in hospitals because cleaning services had been privatised, he says. |
And that’s it. Farage has finished his speech. | And that’s it. Farage has finished his speech. |
Farage says Donald Trump is arriving in the UK today. | Farage says Donald Trump is arriving in the UK today. |
He says the UK can share its secrets with America and other countries in the “five eyes” alliance. | He says the UK can share its secrets with America and other countries in the “five eyes” alliance. |
He says the UK is a very significant part of Nato. | He says the UK is a very significant part of Nato. |
He says Emmanuel Macron, the French president, called Nato “brain dead”. | He says Emmanuel Macron, the French president, called Nato “brain dead”. |
And the EU wants to build a defence union, and flex its muscles around the world. | And the EU wants to build a defence union, and flex its muscles around the world. |
The Europeans want Nato out of Europe, he claims. | The Europeans want Nato out of Europe, he claims. |
He says he keeps asking if Boris Johnson wants the UK out of the EU defence union. | He says he keeps asking if Boris Johnson wants the UK out of the EU defence union. |
But the UK cannot serve both the EU defence union and Nato, he says. | But the UK cannot serve both the EU defence union and Nato, he says. |
He says, if the UK leaves the EU defence union, it will become valueless. It won’t have the muscle it needs. | He says, if the UK leaves the EU defence union, it will become valueless. It won’t have the muscle it needs. |
But if the UK stays a member, that will undermine Nato, he claims. | But if the UK stays a member, that will undermine Nato, he claims. |
Nigel Farage is still speaking at the Brexit party event. | Nigel Farage is still speaking at the Brexit party event. |
He says leavers may like Boris Johnson. They might be related to one of his many children, Farage says. He then suggests he should not have said that. | He says leavers may like Boris Johnson. They might be related to one of his many children, Farage says. He then suggests he should not have said that. |
But leavers should vote for the Brexit party, he says, to ensure that they get the Brexit they voted for. | But leavers should vote for the Brexit party, he says, to ensure that they get the Brexit they voted for. |