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Meghan and Harry Oprah interview live: couple claim palace failed to protect them | Meghan and Harry Oprah interview live: couple claim palace failed to protect them |
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Duke and Duchess of Sussex speak of personal rifts with other members of the royal family in two-hour special with Oprah Winfrey | Duke and Duchess of Sussex speak of personal rifts with other members of the royal family in two-hour special with Oprah Winfrey |
Children’s minister Vicky Ford has also spoken to BBC Breakfast, saying there is “no place for racism in our society” after the Duchess of Sussex said an un-named royal raised concerns about how dark their son Archie’s skin tone might be before he was born. She said that she had not seen the interview but added: “There’s no place for racism in our society and we all need to work together to stop it.” | |
Children’s minister Vicky Ford has spoken to Sky news about the interview. The shadow education secretary Kate Green also told the broadcaster that claims of racism in the royal family are: “Really distressing, shocking”. She added that they must be “treated by the palace with the utmost seriousness and investigated”. | |
The Duchess of Sussex said she phones the Queen “just to check-in”. Meghan suggested that stepping down as working royals meant she and Harry did not have to follow royal protocols and could react to family events, like anyone else. | |
During her interview with Oprah Winfrey, she recalled the first time she met the Queen, describing it as “lovely and easy”. | |
Meghan said when the Duke of Edinburgh was admitted to hospital: “I just pick up the phone and I call the Queen - just to check-in. | |
“That’s what we do, it’s like being able to default to not having to every moment go ‘Is that appropriate?’.” | |
Meghan told Winfrey that “everyone welcomed” her to the royal set-up. She said the Queen gave her “some beautiful pearl earrings and a matching necklace” for the pair’s first joint engagement together, and that the monarch also shared her blanket while travelling together between visits. | |
Meghan said the first time she met the Queen at a lunch at Royal Lodge, Windsor, Harry asked her if she knew how to curtsey. | |
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That’s it from me, Helen Sullivan, for today. Thanks for following along. | That’s it from me, Helen Sullivan, for today. Thanks for following along. |
Phew. A lot happened. In a nutshell: extraordinary revelations interspersed with soothing scenes featuring rescue chickens. | Phew. A lot happened. In a nutshell: extraordinary revelations interspersed with soothing scenes featuring rescue chickens. |
Oprah interviewed the couple briefly at their Santa Barbara home. The interview took place in and around a chicken coop. Oprah held a carton of eggs. Meghan held a small wire basket of eggs. A sign on the chicken coop said “Archie’s chickens”. | Oprah interviewed the couple briefly at their Santa Barbara home. The interview took place in and around a chicken coop. Oprah held a carton of eggs. Meghan held a small wire basket of eggs. A sign on the chicken coop said “Archie’s chickens”. |
Proof: | Proof: |
New parts from the interview will air on Monday morning starting at 7am US Eastern Time on Monday, CBS says, on the show “CBS This Morning” (the show co-hosted by Oprah’s close friend Gayle King). | New parts from the interview will air on Monday morning starting at 7am US Eastern Time on Monday, CBS says, on the show “CBS This Morning” (the show co-hosted by Oprah’s close friend Gayle King). |
In case you missed this important take: | In case you missed this important take: |
Bryony Gordon, the British journalist and mental health campaigner who interviewed Prince Harry about his own mental health in 2017 – when Harry revealed that he sought counselling after 20 years of bottling up his grief over his mother’s death – has tweeted her support for Meghan. | Bryony Gordon, the British journalist and mental health campaigner who interviewed Prince Harry about his own mental health in 2017 – when Harry revealed that he sought counselling after 20 years of bottling up his grief over his mother’s death – has tweeted her support for Meghan. |
Gordon called the revelations that Meghan at one stage felt she “didn’t want to be alive any more”, which the duchess shared during the Oprah interview, “incredibly brave, let alone to an audience of billions”: | Gordon called the revelations that Meghan at one stage felt she “didn’t want to be alive any more”, which the duchess shared during the Oprah interview, “incredibly brave, let alone to an audience of billions”: |
Also, Oprah: | Also, Oprah: |
Here is the short version of what we learned from Oprah’s interview with Meghan and Harry: | Here is the short version of what we learned from Oprah’s interview with Meghan and Harry: |
Meghan said that she reached a point where she “just didn’t want to be alive anymore. And that was a very real and clear and frightening and constant thought.” | Meghan said that she reached a point where she “just didn’t want to be alive anymore. And that was a very real and clear and frightening and constant thought.” |
Meghan said that Harry was asked by the family how dark Archie’s skin might be. Oprah asked Meghan why they didn’t want to make Archie a prince. In the months leading up to Archie’s birth, there were not only conversations about how he would not be given a title, and there would not be security, but also about how dark her baby’s skin might be and “what that would mean or look like”, says Meghan. The conversation was had between Harry and a member or members of his family. It was relayed to her by Harry. Neither Meghan nor Harry would say whom the conversation was with. | Meghan said that Harry was asked by the family how dark Archie’s skin might be. Oprah asked Meghan why they didn’t want to make Archie a prince. In the months leading up to Archie’s birth, there were not only conversations about how he would not be given a title, and there would not be security, but also about how dark her baby’s skin might be and “what that would mean or look like”, says Meghan. The conversation was had between Harry and a member or members of his family. It was relayed to her by Harry. Neither Meghan nor Harry would say whom the conversation was with. |
Harry said Diana would be “angry and sad” at how things worked out. Oprah asked what Harry thought Diana would say about the couple stepping back. “I think she would feel very angry and sad at how this all panned out. But I think all she would ever want would be for us to be happy.” | Harry said Diana would be “angry and sad” at how things worked out. Oprah asked what Harry thought Diana would say about the couple stepping back. “I think she would feel very angry and sad at how this all panned out. But I think all she would ever want would be for us to be happy.” |
Harry has been cut off financially since the first half of 2020. The only money he has, besides extremely lucrative deals with companies including Netflix, is what was left to him by Princess Diana. | Harry has been cut off financially since the first half of 2020. The only money he has, besides extremely lucrative deals with companies including Netflix, is what was left to him by Princess Diana. |
Prince Charles at one point stopped taking Harry’s calls, but the pair are now speaking again. Harry says he still feels “really let down” by Prince Charles. | Prince Charles at one point stopped taking Harry’s calls, but the pair are now speaking again. Harry says he still feels “really let down” by Prince Charles. |
It’s a girl. The couple are due to welcome a baby girl to the world some time later in the US summer. This will be their last child, they said. | It’s a girl. The couple are due to welcome a baby girl to the world some time later in the US summer. This will be their last child, they said. |
Meghan and Harry were married three days before the royal wedding. Three days before the royal wedding, Meghan and Harry got married, just them and the priest. “Nobody knows this,” said Meghan. | Meghan and Harry were married three days before the royal wedding. Three days before the royal wedding, Meghan and Harry got married, just them and the priest. “Nobody knows this,” said Meghan. |
Meghan said she never made the Duchess of Cambridge cry, but that Kate had made Meghan cry. It was reported in British tabloids months after the wedding that Meghan made Kate cry over flower girl dresses. Actually, says Meghan, the “reverse happened”. Kate in fact made Meghan cry over something to do with flower girl dresses. But Kate apologised at the time and brought flowers. | Meghan said she never made the Duchess of Cambridge cry, but that Kate had made Meghan cry. It was reported in British tabloids months after the wedding that Meghan made Kate cry over flower girl dresses. Actually, says Meghan, the “reverse happened”. Kate in fact made Meghan cry over something to do with flower girl dresses. But Kate apologised at the time and brought flowers. |
The couple still talk to the Queen and have enormous respect for her. The Queen made Meghan feel very welcome and they shared a blanket while riding in a coach. | The couple still talk to the Queen and have enormous respect for her. The Queen made Meghan feel very welcome and they shared a blanket while riding in a coach. |
There were chickens. Oprah interviewed the couple briefly at their Santa Barbara home. The interview took place in and around a chicken coop. Oprah held a carton of eggs. Meghan held a small basket of eggs. A sign on the chicken coop said “Archie’s chickens”. | There were chickens. Oprah interviewed the couple briefly at their Santa Barbara home. The interview took place in and around a chicken coop. Oprah held a carton of eggs. Meghan held a small basket of eggs. A sign on the chicken coop said “Archie’s chickens”. |