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Duke of Sussex says racism was ‘large part of’ decision for couple to leave UK in new clip from interview with Oprah WinfreyDuke of Sussex says racism was ‘large part of’ decision for couple to leave UK in new clip from interview with Oprah Winfrey
Piers Morgan, one of Meghan and Harry’s most-outspoken media critics, has used his MailOnline column to publish his thoughts on their Oprah interview.
Riffing off his anger at the couple’s daring to tell the world about how they felt, Morgan writes:
In florid prose, the tabloid journalist-cum-broadcaster tells readers “steam was erupting out of [his] ears like an exploding geyser” after just ten minutes of what he described as a “repulsively disingenuous interview”.
Condemning the couple for “flinging out the filthy family laundry”, he accuses them of revealing “some incredibly damaging bombshells deliberately detonated to do maximum damage to the British Royal Family and the Monarchy.”
Kicking out at their revelation that a member of the royal family had raised questions over the skin colour of Harry and Meghan’s child, Morgan fulminates: “Would an older senior Royal innocently asking Harry what skin colour his baby might have, given that Meghan’s mother is black and her father white, constitute racism?”
(Some people might have a different answer to that question than the one Morgan imagines.)
The Duchess of Sussex has said that her father was not honest with her about talking to the UK tabloids ahead of her wedding to Prince Harry.The Duchess of Sussex has said that her father was not honest with her about talking to the UK tabloids ahead of her wedding to Prince Harry.
In another extract from the couple’s interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan said that she called Thomas Markle after receiving advance warning that newspapers were planning to publish stories he had contributed to, to ask him if he had worked with journalists. In another extract from the couple’s interview with Oprah Winfrey, Meghan said she had called Thomas Markle after receiving advance warning that newspapers were planning to publish stories he had contributed to, to ask him if he had worked with journalists.
“He said: ‘no, absolutely not,’” Meghan said. “He said: ‘No, absolutely not,’” Meghan said.
This just in from our chief political correspondent, Jessica Elgot.This just in from our chief political correspondent, Jessica Elgot.
Prince Harry added, referring to the relationship in which his brother and other royals lived: “With that relationship, and that control and the fear by the UK tabloids, it’s a toxic environment.”Prince Harry added, referring to the relationship in which his brother and other royals lived: “With that relationship, and that control and the fear by the UK tabloids, it’s a toxic environment.”
“But I will always be there for him. I will always be there for my family and I have tried to help them to see what has happened,” he added, gesturing to his wife at this point.“But I will always be there for him. I will always be there for my family and I have tried to help them to see what has happened,” he added, gesturing to his wife at this point.
“Do other royals see it as a toxic environment?” Winfrey asked, wondering if Prince Charles would see it that way if she were to interview him.“Do other royals see it as a toxic environment?” Winfrey asked, wondering if Prince Charles would see it that way if she were to interview him.
“No, because he has had to make peace with it,” replied Harry.“No, because he has had to make peace with it,” replied Harry.
More clips have been put out by CBS, in which Prince Harry is asked by Winfrey if other members of the royal family had reached out to apologise for the reasons he had to leave.More clips have been put out by CBS, in which Prince Harry is asked by Winfrey if other members of the royal family had reached out to apologise for the reasons he had to leave.
“The feeling is that this was our decision and therefore the consequences are on us,” he added.“The feeling is that this was our decision and therefore the consequences are on us,” he added.
It has been really hard, he said, adding: “I am part of the system, with them. I always have been, but I guess there is, I am very aware of this. My brother can’t leave this system but I have.”It has been really hard, he said, adding: “I am part of the system, with them. I always have been, but I guess there is, I am very aware of this. My brother can’t leave this system but I have.”
CBS has spoken to Oprah Winfrey, and she talks about the difficulties of getting a three-hour, 20-minute interview into a one-hour, 25-minute TV show. She says the couple did the interview because they felt they had been “lied about for a series of years” and that this was “hurtful” to them.CBS has spoken to Oprah Winfrey, and she talks about the difficulties of getting a three-hour, 20-minute interview into a one-hour, 25-minute TV show. She says the couple did the interview because they felt they had been “lied about for a series of years” and that this was “hurtful” to them.
The hosts of This Morning ask Winfrey about which royal raised the colour of Harry and Meghan’s baby with them. Winfrey says she does not know but that the couple confirmed it was not the Queen or Prince Philip. “I tried to get that answer from them, on camera and off,” she says.The hosts of This Morning ask Winfrey about which royal raised the colour of Harry and Meghan’s baby with them. Winfrey says she does not know but that the couple confirmed it was not the Queen or Prince Philip. “I tried to get that answer from them, on camera and off,” she says.
A further clip is shown where Harry says: “I’m very aware my brother can’t leave that system, but I have.” When asked if William wants to leave, Harry says he cannot speak for him but adds: “It’s a toxic environment but I’ll always be there for him. I’ll be there for my family.”A further clip is shown where Harry says: “I’m very aware my brother can’t leave that system, but I have.” When asked if William wants to leave, Harry says he cannot speak for him but adds: “It’s a toxic environment but I’ll always be there for him. I’ll be there for my family.”
Meghan then talks about the criticism from the media and says social media turned the situation into a “wild, wild west” and that the “noise level was very different” from previous attacks on members of the royal family. She says she was told by a palace official to expect rude treatment but she rejects this framing. “Rude and racist are not the same,” Meghan says.Meghan then talks about the criticism from the media and says social media turned the situation into a “wild, wild west” and that the “noise level was very different” from previous attacks on members of the royal family. She says she was told by a palace official to expect rude treatment but she rejects this framing. “Rude and racist are not the same,” Meghan says.
Back on the CBS This Morning show, Winfrey says Americans “don’t understand the barrage of daily vitriol and negativity on a consistent basis” that Meghan was subjected to. “It’s a business and she’s a commodity to that business,” she says about the royal family.Back on the CBS This Morning show, Winfrey says Americans “don’t understand the barrage of daily vitriol and negativity on a consistent basis” that Meghan was subjected to. “It’s a business and she’s a commodity to that business,” she says about the royal family.
Oprah Winfrey has been speaking to CBS about the interview and said that Harry wanted her to know that it had not been the Queen or Prince Philip who had made comments about Archie’s skin colour.Oprah Winfrey has been speaking to CBS about the interview and said that Harry wanted her to know that it had not been the Queen or Prince Philip who had made comments about Archie’s skin colour.
Jonathan Dimbleby, biographer of Prince Charles, has been on BBC Radio 4 and says he cannot believe that the person would have been the heir to the throne.Jonathan Dimbleby, biographer of Prince Charles, has been on BBC Radio 4 and says he cannot believe that the person would have been the heir to the throne.
“I know him. I know him for a long time. I have never seen a hint of that,” said the broadcaster“I know him. I know him for a long time. I have never seen a hint of that,” said the broadcaster
“He is someone whose professional personal life has been dedicated to bringing people together, not pulling them apart.”“He is someone whose professional personal life has been dedicated to bringing people together, not pulling them apart.”
Dimbleby had some interesting things also to say about coverage, criticising colleagues at the BBC for not prefacing some of the content from the interview with the word “alleged”.Dimbleby had some interesting things also to say about coverage, criticising colleagues at the BBC for not prefacing some of the content from the interview with the word “alleged”.
There’s also another new clip in which Prince Harry tells how the couple had received a message in which they were told that the Queen was “busy all week”, after the monarch had invited them to visit her at her Sandringham estate.There’s also another new clip in which Prince Harry tells how the couple had received a message in which they were told that the Queen was “busy all week”, after the monarch had invited them to visit her at her Sandringham estate.
Here’s one of those new CBS clips in which Winfrey is seen asking if the couple had left the UK because of racism.Here’s one of those new CBS clips in which Winfrey is seen asking if the couple had left the UK because of racism.
“It was a large part of it,” replies Prince Harry.“It was a large part of it,” replies Prince Harry.
In new clips from the interview, which are just being aired in the US now by CBS, Oprah Winfrey asks the Duke and Duchess of Sussex if racism was the reason why they left the UK.In new clips from the interview, which are just being aired in the US now by CBS, Oprah Winfrey asks the Duke and Duchess of Sussex if racism was the reason why they left the UK.
There is a long pause before Harry replied: “It was a large part of it.”There is a long pause before Harry replied: “It was a large part of it.”
He recalled a conversation at a dinner where he was told that it will be hard for the couple because the UK is a bigoted country. He said said that the thought British press, rather than the whole country, is bigoted.He recalled a conversation at a dinner where he was told that it will be hard for the couple because the UK is a bigoted country. He said said that the thought British press, rather than the whole country, is bigoted.
A further part of the interview has been shown where the couple are talking about a visit to the UK after their decision to step away from royal duties.A further part of the interview has been shown where the couple are talking about a visit to the UK after their decision to step away from royal duties.
Harry said the Queen had previously invited him to Sandringham but when they landed in the country an aide for the monarch told him, via his private secretary, that “the Queen is busy, busy all week, do not come up here. I didn’t push because I knew what was going on.”Harry said the Queen had previously invited him to Sandringham but when they landed in the country an aide for the monarch told him, via his private secretary, that “the Queen is busy, busy all week, do not come up here. I didn’t push because I knew what was going on.”
“When you are head of the firm people give you advice, and what makes me sad is that some of that advice has been really bad,” Harry says.“When you are head of the firm people give you advice, and what makes me sad is that some of that advice has been really bad,” Harry says.
CBS’s This Morning Show is recapping the network’s explosive interview with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and is set to air unseen clips.CBS’s This Morning Show is recapping the network’s explosive interview with the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and is set to air unseen clips.
The show is also gathering reaction, with a correspondent shown outside Buckingham Palace brandishing copies of the Daily Mail and the Sun to show what a splash the interview has made on the other side of the Atlantic.The show is also gathering reaction, with a correspondent shown outside Buckingham Palace brandishing copies of the Daily Mail and the Sun to show what a splash the interview has made on the other side of the Atlantic.
Tina Brown, the former Vanity Fair editor and Princess Diana biographer, appears on the show to say the interview is “kryptonite” to the royal family. Brown also echoes the resounding praise in the US for Oprah Winfrey.Tina Brown, the former Vanity Fair editor and Princess Diana biographer, appears on the show to say the interview is “kryptonite” to the royal family. Brown also echoes the resounding praise in the US for Oprah Winfrey.
“Let’s bow down to the real queen here – Oprah,” she said. “What a fantastic interview that was. I think we we will be talking about this interview for 20 years.”“Let’s bow down to the real queen here – Oprah,” she said. “What a fantastic interview that was. I think we we will be talking about this interview for 20 years.”
Outside of the UK and US, how has the rest of the world viewed the interview and its fallout?Outside of the UK and US, how has the rest of the world viewed the interview and its fallout?
In France, Le Monde carries a piece in which its London correspondent reports that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex launched “a few unpinned grenades” at the royal family.In France, Le Monde carries a piece in which its London correspondent reports that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex launched “a few unpinned grenades” at the royal family.
The French newspaper, along with others in the Francophone world, carried coverage from the AFP news agency that described the interview as a “settling of scores”.The French newspaper, along with others in the Francophone world, carried coverage from the AFP news agency that described the interview as a “settling of scores”.
It added:It added:
In Germany, the mass-selling tabloid Bild has been leading with the interview, which it describes as being part of a “family war”, and focuses on the frosty comments by Prince Harry about his father, Prince Charles.In Germany, the mass-selling tabloid Bild has been leading with the interview, which it describes as being part of a “family war”, and focuses on the frosty comments by Prince Harry about his father, Prince Charles.
In Italy, Corriere della Sera covers the interview with a headline saying the royal household was “worried Archie was too dark”, in a reference to the comments by the Duchess of Sussex that there had been discussions in which an unnamed figure wondered about the skin colour of her yet-to-be-born son.In Italy, Corriere della Sera covers the interview with a headline saying the royal household was “worried Archie was too dark”, in a reference to the comments by the Duchess of Sussex that there had been discussions in which an unnamed figure wondered about the skin colour of her yet-to-be-born son.
In the Australian media, the Sydney Morning Herald carries an analysis from Bevan Shields, based in London, who concludes:In the Australian media, the Sydney Morning Herald carries an analysis from Bevan Shields, based in London, who concludes:
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s revelations in their interview with Oprah Winfrey are “damning” and “damaging” to the monarchy, but the institution will ultimately be strong enough to withstand the controversy, some royal commentators have predicted.The Duke and Duchess of Sussex’s revelations in their interview with Oprah Winfrey are “damning” and “damaging” to the monarchy, but the institution will ultimately be strong enough to withstand the controversy, some royal commentators have predicted.
Harry and Meghan’s comments during the two-hour sit-down have “lobbed a hand grenade into the family home” and represent a “very serious attack” on the institution, the royal author Penny Junor said.Harry and Meghan’s comments during the two-hour sit-down have “lobbed a hand grenade into the family home” and represent a “very serious attack” on the institution, the royal author Penny Junor said.
Junor told the PA news agency: “I do not know why they’ve done this. This is Harry’s family, his flesh and blood, and this seems to have lobbed a hand grenade into the family home.Junor told the PA news agency: “I do not know why they’ve done this. This is Harry’s family, his flesh and blood, and this seems to have lobbed a hand grenade into the family home.
“I worry that there will be no coming back from that.”“I worry that there will be no coming back from that.”
Ingrid Seward, editor-in-chief of Majesty magazine, said the interview “seems very personal against members of the royal family”.Ingrid Seward, editor-in-chief of Majesty magazine, said the interview “seems very personal against members of the royal family”.
She told PA: “It’s a real downer on everyone in the royal family apart from the Queen. It’s probably the most damning condemnation of the royal family and how they operate that I’ve ever heard.”She told PA: “It’s a real downer on everyone in the royal family apart from the Queen. It’s probably the most damning condemnation of the royal family and how they operate that I’ve ever heard.”
On comments from Harry about royal family members feeling “trapped within the system”, she said: “It struck me that he wasn’t completely comfortable with what he was saying.”On comments from Harry about royal family members feeling “trapped within the system”, she said: “It struck me that he wasn’t completely comfortable with what he was saying.”