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UK politics live: Labour criticises PM as Tories urged to vote down Paterson lobbying inquiry findings PMQs live: Johnson faces Rayner after Speaker allows vote on move to stop Paterson suspension
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Latest updates: party says government ministers being encouraged to ‘vote for return to the worst of 90s sleaze culture’ Latest updates: crunch vote - which will see Tory MPs told to shelve a report from the cross-party standards committee - will go ahead after 3pm
Rayner says she is from a military family herself. She says the government’s words are not matched by their actions. She says she knows of veterans being sanctioned after not being able to travel to an interview. Will the PM match Labour’s plan to give veterans more support?
Johnson says, because the government has been able to run a strong economy, it has been able to invest in the NHS and support the armed forces. He says he enjoys his discussions with Rayner. She has more energy than Keir Starmer, he says. But it is the same old labour - no plan, no ideas.
Rayner says the budget included a £4bn tax cut for banks.
She says the budget also included a £1bn cut to day-to-day defence spending. Will the armed forces have to take a pay cut?
Johnson says it is incredible that Labour says this when it wanted to take the UK out of Nato. And he claims one of Rayner’s colleagues wanted to abolish the army.
Rayner says the Resolution Foundatoin says by 2026 people will be paying £3,000 more in tax. What tax cut was given to the banks?
Johnson says the banks are paying more in tax. And Labour voted against more money for the NHS, he says.
Rayner says this would not be allowed in the case of a policemen or a teacher.
Johnson says in cases like those, people have a right of appeal. He accuses Labour of playing politics.
Rayner says this is not about playing politics. It is about playing by the rules. She says the PM from learn from Donald Trump; if you break the rules, it catches up with you. She says the Tories are “wallowing in sleaze”.
Switching to tax, she asks how much the tax take is rising as a result of the budget.
Johnson says the budget took cash from those who can afford it most to help people in need.
Angela Rayner says all MPs should agree that an independent standards procedure found an MP broke the rule on paid lobbying. Yet it is reported that the PM backs attempts to overturn this process. In no other professon could a person be guilty only for their mates to be allowed to vote them back into their job.
Johnson says that is not going to happen. Paid advocacy in this house is wrong. People should pay the price. But that is not the issue in this case. He says the Owen Paterson case involved a family tragedy. And the issue is whether the procedure was fair.
Rupa Huq (Lab) asks the PM what he will tell his grandchildren when they ask him what he did about climate warming. And she calls for a fresh vote to cancel plans for a third runway at Heathrow.
Johnson says he wants to get to net zero aviation. “That’s the future for this country - clean, green aviation,” he says. And he says he thinks this will arrive a lot earlier than the third runway at Heathrow (which he famously opposes personally, although it is still government policy).
Boris Johnson starts by saying, since the Commons will be in recess next week, he wants to pay tribute to people who lost their lives for the country ahead of Armistice Day.
PMQs is starting shortly.
Sir Keir Starmer is still isolating after testing positive for Covid, so Angela Rayner, Labour’s deputy leader, will be leading for the opposition.
Here is the list of MPs down to ask a question.
Tory MPs are now under a three-line whip to vote for the Leadsom amendment, PA’s Sam Blewett reports.
The Speaker’s office has confirmed that Sir Lindsay Hoyle will select the Andrew Leadsom amendment. But the Julian Lewis one will not be put to a vote. (See 9.55am.)The Speaker’s office has confirmed that Sir Lindsay Hoyle will select the Andrew Leadsom amendment. But the Julian Lewis one will not be put to a vote. (See 9.55am.)
This means that the crunch vote, which will see Tory MPs told to shelve a report from the cross-party standards committee, will go ahead, at some point after 3pm.This means that the crunch vote, which will see Tory MPs told to shelve a report from the cross-party standards committee, will go ahead, at some point after 3pm.
Given that the government has a working majority of around 80, the chances of the amendment being passed must be high. According to Commons officials, this would be unprecedente. Since the second world war there has never been a successful atttempt to block or water down a proposal to suspend an MP for breaking rules.Given that the government has a working majority of around 80, the chances of the amendment being passed must be high. According to Commons officials, this would be unprecedente. Since the second world war there has never been a successful atttempt to block or water down a proposal to suspend an MP for breaking rules.
Downing Street has just issued a statement essentially confirming that Boris Johnson wants Tory MPs to vote for the Leadsom amendment. Until now the government has not said this on the record.Downing Street has just issued a statement essentially confirming that Boris Johnson wants Tory MPs to vote for the Leadsom amendment. Until now the government has not said this on the record.
A No 10 spokespeson said:A No 10 spokespeson said:
This statement calls for cross-party agreement on a new system. But the Leadsom amendment does not have cross-party support.This statement calls for cross-party agreement on a new system. But the Leadsom amendment does not have cross-party support.
And it also ignores the fact that there is an element of review built into the current system, because it involves the parliamentary commissioner for standards doing an investigation and compiling a report which is then reviewed by the standards committee. The committee includes lay representation, and it can - and sometimes does - overturn findings from the commissioner. This happened when the commissioner said Boris Johnson broke the code of conduct for MPs in relation to his holiday in Mustique, but the committee itself cleared him on this point.And it also ignores the fact that there is an element of review built into the current system, because it involves the parliamentary commissioner for standards doing an investigation and compiling a report which is then reviewed by the standards committee. The committee includes lay representation, and it can - and sometimes does - overturn findings from the commissioner. This happened when the commissioner said Boris Johnson broke the code of conduct for MPs in relation to his holiday in Mustique, but the committee itself cleared him on this point.
Steven Swinford from the Times says Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker, is expected to allow the Leadsom amendment (see 9.55am) to be put to a vote.Steven Swinford from the Times says Sir Lindsay Hoyle, the Speaker, is expected to allow the Leadsom amendment (see 9.55am) to be put to a vote.
But he says some Tory MPs will refuse to back it.But he says some Tory MPs will refuse to back it.
This is from Hannah White, deputy director of the Institute for Government thinktank, essentially agreeing with Chris Bryant’s argument (see 10.57am) about public reaction to the Tory proposal to protect Owen Paterson.This is from Hannah White, deputy director of the Institute for Government thinktank, essentially agreeing with Chris Bryant’s argument (see 10.57am) about public reaction to the Tory proposal to protect Owen Paterson.
White also points out that what is being proposed today, effectively a retrospective change to the standards rules, was something that Downing Street explicitly ruled out in the Rob Roberts case. Roberts is the Tory MP who was suspended from the Commons for six weeks for sexual harrassment but who avoided the potential recall election because of an unintended technical loophole in Commons rules that has now been closed.White also points out that what is being proposed today, effectively a retrospective change to the standards rules, was something that Downing Street explicitly ruled out in the Rob Roberts case. Roberts is the Tory MP who was suspended from the Commons for six weeks for sexual harrassment but who avoided the potential recall election because of an unintended technical loophole in Commons rules that has now been closed.
In an article for the Daily Telegraph (paywall) Chris Bryant, the Labour MP who chairs the Commons standards committee, says the claims from Owen Paterson and his supporters about the inquiry into him being unfair are unfounded. Bryant says:In an article for the Daily Telegraph (paywall) Chris Bryant, the Labour MP who chairs the Commons standards committee, says the claims from Owen Paterson and his supporters about the inquiry into him being unfair are unfounded. Bryant says:
Bryant says that if MPs vote down his committee’s report, or try to water it down, they will be doing “great damage to parliament”.Bryant says that if MPs vote down his committee’s report, or try to water it down, they will be doing “great damage to parliament”.
He says that “the biggest problem for Mr Paterson is that the facts that he provided speak for themselves” and he urges people to read the report into the case published by his committee last week. It is here (pdf).He says that “the biggest problem for Mr Paterson is that the facts that he provided speak for themselves” and he urges people to read the report into the case published by his committee last week. It is here (pdf).
Lisa Nandy, the shadow foreign secretary, told Sky News this morning that what was being proposed by the Conservatives today in relation to Owen Paterson was “appalling double standards”. She said:Lisa Nandy, the shadow foreign secretary, told Sky News this morning that what was being proposed by the Conservatives today in relation to Owen Paterson was “appalling double standards”. She said:
She also said that what the Tories were doing was undermining trust in politics.She also said that what the Tories were doing was undermining trust in politics.
John Glen, a Treasury minister, was doing the broadcast round for the government this morning. He would not confirm that Tory MPs will be whipped to support the Leadsom amendment, but he suggested that the inquiry into Owen Paterson may have been unfair. He told Sky News:John Glen, a Treasury minister, was doing the broadcast round for the government this morning. He would not confirm that Tory MPs will be whipped to support the Leadsom amendment, but he suggested that the inquiry into Owen Paterson may have been unfair. He told Sky News:
Sir Bernard Jenkin, a Conservative MP who has put his name to the Andrea Leadsom amendment (see 9.55am), told the Today programme this morning that the system for policing the conduct of MPs had been flawed for years and that today’s vote was an opportunity to fix it. He insisted that the amendment was not designed to let Owen Paterson off. Jenkin said:Sir Bernard Jenkin, a Conservative MP who has put his name to the Andrea Leadsom amendment (see 9.55am), told the Today programme this morning that the system for policing the conduct of MPs had been flawed for years and that today’s vote was an opportunity to fix it. He insisted that the amendment was not designed to let Owen Paterson off. Jenkin said:
Asked to confirm that the government will tell Tory MPs to back the amendment, Jenkin replied: “I have had various discussions with ministers, nothing has been decided.”Asked to confirm that the government will tell Tory MPs to back the amendment, Jenkin replied: “I have had various discussions with ministers, nothing has been decided.”
Jenkin is a member of the Commons standards committee, but he did not take part in its inquiry into Paterson because Paterson is a close personal friend.Jenkin is a member of the Commons standards committee, but he did not take part in its inquiry into Paterson because Paterson is a close personal friend.
Jenkin and Paterson were also prominent Vote Leave campaigners, as were Andrea Leadsom and many of the other Tories who have signed her amendment. At times Paterson and his supporters have claimed there is a political dimension to the inquiry against him. The inquiry was triggered by this article in the Guardian in September 2019, and the involvement of the pro-remain Guardian is seen by Paterson’s allies as evidence that there is a Brexit dimension to the row.Jenkin and Paterson were also prominent Vote Leave campaigners, as were Andrea Leadsom and many of the other Tories who have signed her amendment. At times Paterson and his supporters have claimed there is a political dimension to the inquiry against him. The inquiry was triggered by this article in the Guardian in September 2019, and the involvement of the pro-remain Guardian is seen by Paterson’s allies as evidence that there is a Brexit dimension to the row.
There are two amendments on the order paper today to the motion saying that Owen Paterson should be suspended from the Commons for 30 days, as recommended by the standards committee. You can read the both in full here (pdf).There are two amendments on the order paper today to the motion saying that Owen Paterson should be suspended from the Commons for 30 days, as recommended by the standards committee. You can read the both in full here (pdf).
The main one has been tabled by Andrea Leadsom, the Conservative former leader of the Commons. It “notes concerns expressed about potential defects in the standards system and therefore declines to consider the [standards committee] report at this time”.The main one has been tabled by Andrea Leadsom, the Conservative former leader of the Commons. It “notes concerns expressed about potential defects in the standards system and therefore declines to consider the [standards committee] report at this time”.
Instead, the Leadsom amendment says a new committee should be set up to consider changes to the current standards system. The committee should be chaired by John Whittingdale, the Tory former culture secretary, and it should include four other Conservative MPs, three Labour MPs and one SNP MP, the motion says. It also says this committee should consider whether the case against Paterson should be reviewed.Instead, the Leadsom amendment says a new committee should be set up to consider changes to the current standards system. The committee should be chaired by John Whittingdale, the Tory former culture secretary, and it should include four other Conservative MPs, three Labour MPs and one SNP MP, the motion says. It also says this committee should consider whether the case against Paterson should be reviewed.
In total 59 Conservatives have put their names to this amendment.In total 59 Conservatives have put their names to this amendment.
The second one has been tabled by Julian Lewis, the Conservative chair of the intelligence and security committee. It “notes” the standards committee report but says the Commons should resolve “on compassionate grounds, that no further action be taken”. This is a reference to the fact that Owen Paterson’s wife, Rose, took her own life last year. Paterson says the parliamentary inquiry into his conduct was a “major factor” in his wife’s decision.The second one has been tabled by Julian Lewis, the Conservative chair of the intelligence and security committee. It “notes” the standards committee report but says the Commons should resolve “on compassionate grounds, that no further action be taken”. This is a reference to the fact that Owen Paterson’s wife, Rose, took her own life last year. Paterson says the parliamentary inquiry into his conduct was a “major factor” in his wife’s decision.
The Lewis amendment has been signed by 15 MPs – all Tories except for Sammy Wilson, who is a DUP MP.The Lewis amendment has been signed by 15 MPs – all Tories except for Sammy Wilson, who is a DUP MP.
Good morning. It is almost 30 years since the cash for questions scandal, which revealed how MPs were using their status as parliamentarians for personal gain. It led to the creation of the committee on standards in public life and a major overhaul of the rules governing what MPs are and are not allowed to do. Over the last three decades the system has been criticised, and amended, but by and large it has survived with cross-party support. But today Boris Johnson and the Conservatives seem ready to blow that consensus apart by voting for an overhaul of the system that would protect Owen Paterson, the Tory former cabinet minister, from a 30-day suspension for breaking lobbying rules.Good morning. It is almost 30 years since the cash for questions scandal, which revealed how MPs were using their status as parliamentarians for personal gain. It led to the creation of the committee on standards in public life and a major overhaul of the rules governing what MPs are and are not allowed to do. Over the last three decades the system has been criticised, and amended, but by and large it has survived with cross-party support. But today Boris Johnson and the Conservatives seem ready to blow that consensus apart by voting for an overhaul of the system that would protect Owen Paterson, the Tory former cabinet minister, from a 30-day suspension for breaking lobbying rules.
The cross-party Commons standards committee recommended the punishment, on the basis of the findings of an investigation from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards. Since the end of the second world war, disciplinary recommendations from this committee or its predecessors have almost always been accepted by the Commons as a whole, normally without a vote. For a standards committee finding to be rejected as comprehensively as is being proposed today is thought to be unprecedented.The cross-party Commons standards committee recommended the punishment, on the basis of the findings of an investigation from Kathryn Stone, the parliamentary commissioner for standards. Since the end of the second world war, disciplinary recommendations from this committee or its predecessors have almost always been accepted by the Commons as a whole, normally without a vote. For a standards committee finding to be rejected as comprehensively as is being proposed today is thought to be unprecedented.
Here is my colleague Aubrey Allegretti’s preview story.Here is my colleague Aubrey Allegretti’s preview story.
It is not at all clear yet, though, how today will pan out. It is up to the Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to decide whether he will allow a vote on the Tory amendment, tabled by Andrea Leadsom, essentially rejecting the Paterson findings, and it has been reported that Hoyle believes that, if MPs were to reject the standards committee report, that would do “real reputational damage” to the Commons.It is not at all clear yet, though, how today will pan out. It is up to the Speaker, Sir Lindsay Hoyle, to decide whether he will allow a vote on the Tory amendment, tabled by Andrea Leadsom, essentially rejecting the Paterson findings, and it has been reported that Hoyle believes that, if MPs were to reject the standards committee report, that would do “real reputational damage” to the Commons.
If Hoyle does not allow a vote on the amendment, Paterson’s supporters could simply try to vote down the proposed suspension. But that would look even worse, because they would be voting to protect him without launching a review of the case. The proposed suspension could end up being approved after a division showing MPs split, probably largely along party lines. This would be damaging too, because it would show the process in place for policing the conduct of MPs no longer commanding widespread cross-party support.If Hoyle does not allow a vote on the amendment, Paterson’s supporters could simply try to vote down the proposed suspension. But that would look even worse, because they would be voting to protect him without launching a review of the case. The proposed suspension could end up being approved after a division showing MPs split, probably largely along party lines. This would be damaging too, because it would show the process in place for policing the conduct of MPs no longer commanding widespread cross-party support.
Labour has accused the government of wanting a return to “the worst of the 1990s Tory sleaze culture”. Last night, after it was reported that Johnson wants Tory MPs to back the Leadsom amendment, Thangam Debbonaire, the shadow leader of the Commons, said:Labour has accused the government of wanting a return to “the worst of the 1990s Tory sleaze culture”. Last night, after it was reported that Johnson wants Tory MPs to back the Leadsom amendment, Thangam Debbonaire, the shadow leader of the Commons, said:
Here is the agenda for the day.Here is the agenda for the day.
9am: Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, holds a press conference at Cop26. For full coverage, do read out Cop26 live blog.9am: Rishi Sunak, the chancellor, holds a press conference at Cop26. For full coverage, do read out Cop26 live blog.
10am: Nadhim Zahawi, the education secretary, gives evidence to the Commons education committee.10am: Nadhim Zahawi, the education secretary, gives evidence to the Commons education committee.
12pm: Boris Johnson faces Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader, at PMQs. Sir Keir Starmer is still isolating because he tested positive for Covid.12pm: Boris Johnson faces Angela Rayner, the deputy Labour leader, at PMQs. Sir Keir Starmer is still isolating because he tested positive for Covid.
After 12.30pm: Johnson makes a Commons statement on Cop26.After 12.30pm: Johnson makes a Commons statement on Cop26.
After 1.30pm: MPs begin the debate on the standards committee report about Owen Paterson. The voting will come 90 minutes later.After 1.30pm: MPs begin the debate on the standards committee report about Owen Paterson. The voting will come 90 minutes later.
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