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| PM Rishi Sunak on rapist case: Biological sex 'really matters' | PM Rishi Sunak on rapist case: Biological sex 'really matters' |
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| Rishi Sunak was interviewed by Piers Morgan in 10 Downing Street to mark 100 days in office | Rishi Sunak was interviewed by Piers Morgan in 10 Downing Street to mark 100 days in office |
| Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has said biological sex "really matters" after he was asked about the case of a rapist who was sent to a women's prison. | Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has said biological sex "really matters" after he was asked about the case of a rapist who was sent to a women's prison. |
| Isla Bryson was convicted of attacking two women while known as a man called Adam Graham. | Isla Bryson was convicted of attacking two women while known as a man called Adam Graham. |
| One of the victims later said she was sure Bryson was pretending to be trans to "make life easier". | One of the victims later said she was sure Bryson was pretending to be trans to "make life easier". |
| And First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she was sure Bryson was "almost certainly" faking being trans. | And First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said she was sure Bryson was "almost certainly" faking being trans. |
| Bryson was moved from Cornton Vale to the male prison estate after a public outcry. | Bryson was moved from Cornton Vale to the male prison estate after a public outcry. |
| The case was put to the prime minister in an interview with Piers Morgan for Talk TV to mark Mr Sunak's first 100 days in office. | The case was put to the prime minister in an interview with Piers Morgan for Talk TV to mark Mr Sunak's first 100 days in office. |
| Nicola Sturgeon: Rapist Isla Bryson 'almost certainly' faking trans status | Nicola Sturgeon: Rapist Isla Bryson 'almost certainly' faking trans status |
| What is the transgender prisoners row all about? | What is the transgender prisoners row all about? |
| Rapist guilty of attacking women before gender change | Rapist guilty of attacking women before gender change |
| Morgan said the case showed the problem of "limitless gender self-identity". | Morgan said the case showed the problem of "limitless gender self-identity". |
| Mr Sunak said it demonstrated "some of the challenges", but added "we must and should have enormous compassion and tolerance and understanding for those who are questioning their gender and identity". | Mr Sunak said it demonstrated "some of the challenges", but added "we must and should have enormous compassion and tolerance and understanding for those who are questioning their gender and identity". |
| "But we have to recognise the challenges that that poses, particularly for women's safety," the prime minister said. | "But we have to recognise the challenges that that poses, particularly for women's safety," the prime minister said. |
| "For me, whether it's sex, whether it's women's spaces, whether it's prisons, biological sex really matters." | "For me, whether it's sex, whether it's women's spaces, whether it's prisons, biological sex really matters." |
| Bryson will be sentenced later this month after being convicted of raping two women | Bryson will be sentenced later this month after being convicted of raping two women |
| During the interview, Morgan asked Mr Sunak for his definition of a woman. | During the interview, Morgan asked Mr Sunak for his definition of a woman. |
| The prime minister replied "adult human female", but suggested the TV presenter was actually asking about society's handling of people questioning their gender identity. | The prime minister replied "adult human female", but suggested the TV presenter was actually asking about society's handling of people questioning their gender identity. |
| Scottish government legislation aimed at allowing people to self-identify their legal sex has been blocked by the UK government over its potential impact on equalities laws, including on female-only spaces. | Scottish government legislation aimed at allowing people to self-identify their legal sex has been blocked by the UK government over its potential impact on equalities laws, including on female-only spaces. |
| The move was described as a "full-frontal assault" on the Scottish Parliament by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon. | The move was described as a "full-frontal assault" on the Scottish Parliament by First Minister Nicola Sturgeon. |
| The first minister has also accused some opponents of the gender reforms of being transphobic and "deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well". | The first minister has also accused some opponents of the gender reforms of being transphobic and "deeply misogynist, often homophobic, possibly some of them racist as well". |
| On Thursday, Ms Sturgeon refused to say whether she regarded Bryson as being female after being asked by Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross. | On Thursday, Ms Sturgeon refused to say whether she regarded Bryson as being female after being asked by Scottish Conservative leader Douglas Ross. |
| Watch: SNP minister questioned on whether Isla Bryson is "a man or woman" | Watch: SNP minister questioned on whether Isla Bryson is "a man or woman" |
| Watch: SNP minister questioned on whether Isla Bryson is "a man or woman" | Watch: SNP minister questioned on whether Isla Bryson is "a man or woman" |
| Ms Sturgeon said she did not have enough information to say whether Bryson's claim to be a woman was valid or not. | Ms Sturgeon said she did not have enough information to say whether Bryson's claim to be a woman was valid or not. |
| She added: "What is relevant is that the individual is a rapist. That is how the individual should be described". | She added: "What is relevant is that the individual is a rapist. That is how the individual should be described". |
| However, the first minister later agreed that Bryson was "almost certainly" faking being trans. | However, the first minister later agreed that Bryson was "almost certainly" faking being trans. |
| Justice Secretary Keith Brown told BBC Scotland earlier this week that "if somebody presents as a trans person then we accept that on face value." | Justice Secretary Keith Brown told BBC Scotland earlier this week that "if somebody presents as a trans person then we accept that on face value." |
| Bryson was found guilty last month of raping two women in 2016 and 2019 while known as a man called Adam Graham. | Bryson was found guilty last month of raping two women in 2016 and 2019 while known as a man called Adam Graham. |
| She announced after being charged with the two rapes that she now identified as female, with the court hearing that she had started the process of gender re-assignment. | She announced after being charged with the two rapes that she now identified as female, with the court hearing that she had started the process of gender re-assignment. |
| Bryson was initially taken to a unit at Cornton Vale in Stirling after being found guilty, before being moved to a male wing at HMP Edinburgh a few days later following a public outcry. | Bryson was initially taken to a unit at Cornton Vale in Stirling after being found guilty, before being moved to a male wing at HMP Edinburgh a few days later following a public outcry. |
| She had been able to enrol on a beauty course at Ayrshire College, where she was known as Annie, while awaiting trial and remained there for three months before being asked to leave. | She had been able to enrol on a beauty course at Ayrshire College, where she was known as Annie, while awaiting trial and remained there for three months before being asked to leave. |
| TV presenter India Willoughby has claimed that the current debate around trans issues was being driven by transphobia | TV presenter India Willoughby has claimed that the current debate around trans issues was being driven by transphobia |
| Her classmates were almost exclusively female and much younger than Bryson, and were not aware of the rape allegations. | Her classmates were almost exclusively female and much younger than Bryson, and were not aware of the rape allegations. |
| One former classmate said she felt "violated" after learning of the crimes Bryson had committed. | One former classmate said she felt "violated" after learning of the crimes Bryson had committed. |
| Scottish government officials have been working colleges and universities with the aim of producing guidance to address concerns about alleged sex offenders enrolling on courses while awaiting trial. | Scottish government officials have been working colleges and universities with the aim of producing guidance to address concerns about alleged sex offenders enrolling on courses while awaiting trial. |
| On Sunday a "pause" was placed on the transfer to women's jails of trans inmates with convictions for violence. | On Sunday a "pause" was placed on the transfer to women's jails of trans inmates with convictions for violence. |
| It followed reports that another transgender woman, Tiffany Scott - who was convicted of stalking a 13-year-old girl before her transition and has a history of violence - was due to be moved to a female prison. | It followed reports that another transgender woman, Tiffany Scott - who was convicted of stalking a 13-year-old girl before her transition and has a history of violence - was due to be moved to a female prison. |
| The first minister is challenged to say whether she believes a double rapist is a woman | The first minister is challenged to say whether she believes a double rapist is a woman |
| The first minister is challenged to say whether she believes a double rapist is a woman | The first minister is challenged to say whether she believes a double rapist is a woman |
| Loose Women host India Willoughby - who was Britain's first transgender national television newsreader - told the BBC's Question Time that the "toxic" debate around transgender issues was being driven by "a lot of misinformation by a media that is completely transphobic". | Loose Women host India Willoughby - who was Britain's first transgender national television newsreader - told the BBC's Question Time that the "toxic" debate around transgender issues was being driven by "a lot of misinformation by a media that is completely transphobic". |
| She claimed that stories of transgender prisoners being placed in spaces with other women were "not true", adding: "There is categorically no way somebody who has committed rape would be moved into the women's estate." | She claimed that stories of transgender prisoners being placed in spaces with other women were "not true", adding: "There is categorically no way somebody who has committed rape would be moved into the women's estate." |
| She said: "There are bad apples in all walks of life. There are bad Protestants, there are bad Catholics, bad lesbians, or bad gays, and yes, there are bad trans people. | She said: "There are bad apples in all walks of life. There are bad Protestants, there are bad Catholics, bad lesbians, or bad gays, and yes, there are bad trans people. |
| "And all of those people, if they do something criminal and are found guilty, they deserve to go to jail and to be punished in a jail that is suitable for them and where everybody else is safe." | "And all of those people, if they do something criminal and are found guilty, they deserve to go to jail and to be punished in a jail that is suitable for them and where everybody else is safe." |
| Related Topics | Related Topics |
| Scottish government | Scottish government |
| Nicola Sturgeon | Nicola Sturgeon |
| Gender recognition reform in Scotland | Gender recognition reform in Scotland |
| Women's rights | Women's rights |
| Rishi Sunak | Rishi Sunak |
| Scottish Parliament | Scottish Parliament |
| Transgender people | Transgender people |
| UK prisons | UK prisons |