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| Carwyn Jones: Sacked minister Alun Davies apology 'would help' | Carwyn Jones: Sacked minister Alun Davies apology 'would help' |
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| First Minister Carwyn Jones said it would help if former Environment Minister Alun Davies apologised to five AMs after he requested financial information about them. | |
| Mr Davies was sacked on Tuesday for putting pressure on officials for private information on opposition AMs. | Mr Davies was sacked on Tuesday for putting pressure on officials for private information on opposition AMs. |
| Mr Jones said he told Mr Davies he was "on the edge of a cliff" for a row over an Ebbw Vale racetrack last week. | |
| The Blaenau Gwent AM was reprimanded for breaching the ministerial code. | The Blaenau Gwent AM was reprimanded for breaching the ministerial code. |
| Opposition parties had said he should have been sacked for lobbying Natural Resources Wales over the £280m Circuit of Wales track in his constituency. | |
| The union representing senior civil servants has called Mr Davies' behaviour in relation to the finances request "reprehensible". | |
| Mr Jones also said he was left with "no choice" but to sack the Environment Minister after his actions. | |
| He added he had apologised to the opposition AMs affected, and said it would "certainly help his position" if Mr Davies did too, but that it was difficult to see a way back for the former minister as his actions raised very serious issues. | |
| "The only conclusion you can draw, and the only conclusion that any reasonable person can draw is that he wanted to use that information against the named members," said Mr Jones. "I drew that conclusion, the public are going to draw that conclusion and on that basis I'm afraid he could not remain in the Government. | "The only conclusion you can draw, and the only conclusion that any reasonable person can draw is that he wanted to use that information against the named members," said Mr Jones. "I drew that conclusion, the public are going to draw that conclusion and on that basis I'm afraid he could not remain in the Government. |
| "I am very annoyed. If you offer someone what is in effect a second chance, I would not expect them to throw it out of the window within hours. | |
| "It was made clear to him last week that he was standing on the edge of a cliff after what happened with the other issue, and then the following day this happened. There was no choice I'm afraid. He had to go." | |
| Mr Jones he said he could not defend or explain Mr Davies' actions, and the former minister had also been unable to explain it to the first minister when questioned. | |
| "One of the things I could have chosen to do was to keep this quiet, but that would have been the wrong decision," he said. | |
| "I wanted to make sure people understood what had happened, understood that where this sort of thing does happen it may be acceptable elsewhere but it is not acceptable in Wales." | |
| However he added while Mr Davies had broken the ministerial code in his role as a minister, he had "done nothing" as an assembly member. | |
| "This has been referred to the standards commissioner and it's in their hands," he said. | |
| Independent adjudicator | |
| Opposition parties have put forward a motion calling for an independent adjudicator to oversee the ministerial code, which will be debated later. | |
| Mr Jones explained he had asked for the Permanent Secretary to prepare a report on the Circuit of Wales affair before making his decision last week, and said he would still have sacked Mr Davies over the latest incident whether or not an independent adjudicator was involved. | |
| "I'm not quite clear what the other parties are asking for this afternoon. They talk about an independent adjudicator. That's a judge," he said. | |
| "That would mean a judge telling me who I can or can't appoint. That wouldn't be democratic." | |
| He added in London and Scotland there were independent advisors to the Prime Minister and First Minister but both leaders made the decision about whom to refer and both took the final decisions on any action. |