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Sacked minister Alun Davies has written to five AMs to apologise for trying to find out about their farm subsidy payments. Sacked minister Alun Davies has written to five AMs to apologise for trying to discover their farm subsidy payments.
It comes after First Minister Carwyn Jones said it would help if Mr Davies apologised to them.It comes after First Minister Carwyn Jones said it would help if Mr Davies apologised to them.
Mr Davies lost his environment post on Tuesday for putting pressure on officials to find him details of the subsidies, which were private.Mr Davies lost his environment post on Tuesday for putting pressure on officials to find him details of the subsidies, which were private.
He has already said sorry to the civil servants involved. Mr Jones said later he was happy to consider making changes to the way the rules for ministers are policed.
Complaints from civil servants emerged just days after the Blaenau Gwent AM was reprimanded over another matter.Complaints from civil servants emerged just days after the Blaenau Gwent AM was reprimanded over another matter.
In an interview with BBC Wales on Wednesday, First Minister Carwyn Jones said he had warned Mr Davies that he was "on the edge of a cliff" for a row over an Ebbw Vale racetrack last week.In an interview with BBC Wales on Wednesday, First Minister Carwyn Jones said he had warned Mr Davies that he was "on the edge of a cliff" for a row over an Ebbw Vale racetrack last week.
Opposition parties had said he should have been sacked for lobbying Natural Resources Wales over the £280m Circuit of Wales track in his constituency.Opposition parties had said he should have been sacked for lobbying Natural Resources Wales over the £280m Circuit of Wales track in his constituency.
The union representing senior civil servants has described Mr Davies' behaviour in relation to the finances request "reprehensible".The union representing senior civil servants has described Mr Davies' behaviour in relation to the finances request "reprehensible".
It emerged he had repeatedly asked civil servants for details of opposition AMs' subsidies, despite being told the information was private and not publically available.It emerged he had repeatedly asked civil servants for details of opposition AMs' subsidies, despite being told the information was private and not publically available.
Mr Jones also said he was left with "no choice" but to sack the environment minister.Mr Jones also said he was left with "no choice" but to sack the environment minister.
He said while he had apologised to the politicians affected, it would "certainly help his position" if Mr Davies did too.He said while he had apologised to the politicians affected, it would "certainly help his position" if Mr Davies did too.
He added that it was difficult to see a way back for the former minister as his actions raised very serious issues.He added that it was difficult to see a way back for the former minister as his actions raised very serious issues.
"The only conclusion you can draw, and the only conclusion that any reasonable person can draw is that he wanted to use that information against the named members," said Mr Jones. "I drew that conclusion, the public are going to draw that conclusion and on that basis I'm afraid he could not remain in the government."The only conclusion you can draw, and the only conclusion that any reasonable person can draw is that he wanted to use that information against the named members," said Mr Jones. "I drew that conclusion, the public are going to draw that conclusion and on that basis I'm afraid he could not remain in the government.
"I am very annoyed. If you offer someone what is in effect a second chance, I would not expect them to throw it out of the window within hours."I am very annoyed. If you offer someone what is in effect a second chance, I would not expect them to throw it out of the window within hours.
"It was made clear to him last week that he was standing on the edge of a cliff after what happened with the other issue, and then the following day this happened. There was no choice I'm afraid. He had to go.""It was made clear to him last week that he was standing on the edge of a cliff after what happened with the other issue, and then the following day this happened. There was no choice I'm afraid. He had to go."
Mr Jones he said he could not defend or explain Mr Davies' actions, and the former minister had also been unable to explain it to the first minister when questioned. Mr Jones said he could not defend or explain Mr Davies' actions, and the former minister had also been unable to explain it to the first minister when questioned.
"One of the things I could have chosen to do was to keep this quiet, but that would have been the wrong decision," he said."One of the things I could have chosen to do was to keep this quiet, but that would have been the wrong decision," he said.
"I wanted to make sure people understood what had happened, understood that where this sort of thing does happen it may be acceptable elsewhere but it is not acceptable in Wales.""I wanted to make sure people understood what had happened, understood that where this sort of thing does happen it may be acceptable elsewhere but it is not acceptable in Wales."
However, he said while Mr Davies had broken the ministerial code in his role as a minister, he had "done nothing" as an assembly member.However, he said while Mr Davies had broken the ministerial code in his role as a minister, he had "done nothing" as an assembly member.
"This has been referred to the standards commissioner and it's in their hands," he added."This has been referred to the standards commissioner and it's in their hands," he added.
Independent adjudicatorIndependent adjudicator
Opposition parties have put forward a motion calling for an independent adjudicator to oversee the ministerial code, which will be debated later on Wednesday. Responding in the Senedd to opposition calls for an independent adjudicator of the ministerial code, Mr Jones said he had an "open mind" on making changes.
Mr Jones explained he had asked for the permanent secretary to prepare a report on the Circuit of Wales affair before making his decision last week, and said he would still have sacked Mr Davies over the latest incident whether or not an independent adjudicator was involved. But he said he was uncomfortable with the term adjudicator, as that would suggest the final decision on a minister's fate would not rest with the first minister.
"I'm not quite clear what the other parties are asking for this afternoon. They talk about an independent adjudicator. That's a judge," he said. All three opposition parties said Mr Davies's recent breaches of the code demonstrated the need for the system to be reformed, and for a complaint made about ministerial behaviour to automatically receive independent scrutiny.
"That would mean a judge telling me who I can or can't appoint. That wouldn't be democratic." But Mr Jones said he would not have been able to deal with Mr Davies as quickly as he had if there had been an automatic referral to an independent figure.
He added in London and Scotland there were independent advisors to the Prime Minister and First Minister but both leaders made the decision about whom to refer and both took the final decisions on any action. The opposition motion to create an independent adjudicator was defeated by 25 votes to 24.