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| Trump and co spar on gay rights, equal pay, marijuana ... plus Bush's warm kiss – as it happened | Trump and co spar on gay rights, equal pay, marijuana ... plus Bush's warm kiss – as it happened |
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| 3.26am GMT | |
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| The third Republican debate is over. Here’s what we learned: | The third Republican debate is over. Here’s what we learned: |
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| at 3.51am GMT | |
| 3.24am GMT | |
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| Searches on Google for the candidates tonight: | Searches on Google for the candidates tonight: |
| Replay the #GOPDebate and see how candidates changed ranks in search tonight https://t.co/yMrHFd143Q pic.twitter.com/IqXUGmcfWG | Replay the #GOPDebate and see how candidates changed ranks in search tonight https://t.co/yMrHFd143Q pic.twitter.com/IqXUGmcfWG |
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| Luckily for Jeb! no Republicans have ever heard of this guy | Luckily for Jeb! no Republicans have ever heard of this guy |
| Jeb Bush can eat carbs now... #GOPDebate | Jeb Bush can eat carbs now... #GOPDebate |
| Updated | |
| at 3.20am GMT | |
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| Adam Gabbatt | Adam Gabbatt |
| Mike Huckabee was the first one to mention the blimp that came free from its mooring in Maryland today and drifted to Pennsylvania before it was eventually grounded, writes Adam Gabbatt. | Mike Huckabee was the first one to mention the blimp that came free from its mooring in Maryland today and drifted to Pennsylvania before it was eventually grounded, writes Adam Gabbatt. |
| Huckabee: “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government.” https://t.co/3yuG8mvNrQ | Huckabee: “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government.” https://t.co/3yuG8mvNrQ |
| “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government,” he said. | “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government,” he said. |
| Unfortunately for Huckabee, his own metaphor had even more in common with the blimp. Just as the military lost control of its gaseous vessel, Huckabee quickly lost control of his analogy. Soon his rather hot-aired trope was drifting around without direction or purpose, before eventually flopping to the ground. | Unfortunately for Huckabee, his own metaphor had even more in common with the blimp. Just as the military lost control of its gaseous vessel, Huckabee quickly lost control of his analogy. Soon his rather hot-aired trope was drifting around without direction or purpose, before eventually flopping to the ground. |
| “What we had was something the government made, basically a bag of gas, that got cut loose, destroyed everything in its path, left thousands of people powerless, but they couldn’t get rid of it because we had too much money invested in it.” | “What we had was something the government made, basically a bag of gas, that got cut loose, destroyed everything in its path, left thousands of people powerless, but they couldn’t get rid of it because we had too much money invested in it.” |
| He added bafflingly: “So we had to keep it.” | He added bafflingly: “So we had to keep it.” |
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| at 3.12am GMT | |
| 2.48am GMT | |
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| Dominic Rushe and Jana Kasperkevic of the Guardian’s business desk were here to cast their keen eyes over the economic aspects of the debate. Here’s what they thought: | Dominic Rushe and Jana Kasperkevic of the Guardian’s business desk were here to cast their keen eyes over the economic aspects of the debate. Here’s what they thought: |
| Dominic Rushe: | Dominic Rushe: |
| So ... lovely as it is to spend the evening with you Jana, that was a bit crap wasn’t it? The main event was better than the kiddie table warm-up and - for such a busy debate - there was some fairly substantive stuff on taxes, on H1-B visas and a few digs at the Fed (stay with me) ... but minimum wage? No. Women’s wages? “I love my mom, government’s bad, OK?” | So ... lovely as it is to spend the evening with you Jana, that was a bit crap wasn’t it? The main event was better than the kiddie table warm-up and - for such a busy debate - there was some fairly substantive stuff on taxes, on H1-B visas and a few digs at the Fed (stay with me) ... but minimum wage? No. Women’s wages? “I love my mom, government’s bad, OK?” |
| Where was the debate on free trade? I miss Trump saying “China”. Pretty lame really for a debate labelled: “Your Money, Your Vote.” | Where was the debate on free trade? I miss Trump saying “China”. Pretty lame really for a debate labelled: “Your Money, Your Vote.” |
| There were more mentions of “middle-class” in the warm-up. And they should have bumped Lindsey Graham up to first class. I was surprised that the crowd got so angry given that very few of the questions really struck a nerve. | There were more mentions of “middle-class” in the warm-up. And they should have bumped Lindsey Graham up to first class. I was surprised that the crowd got so angry given that very few of the questions really struck a nerve. |
| Jana Kasperkevic: | Jana Kasperkevic: |
| I, too, missed Lindsey Graham. You know what else I missed? Serious questions about people’s money. There was too much talk about tax plans. All people want to hear is: “I will tax the rich. I will not tax you. In fact, I will cut your taxes.” Anything other than that and people’s eyes glaze over. I know mine did. | I, too, missed Lindsey Graham. You know what else I missed? Serious questions about people’s money. There was too much talk about tax plans. All people want to hear is: “I will tax the rich. I will not tax you. In fact, I will cut your taxes.” Anything other than that and people’s eyes glaze over. I know mine did. |
| Here are the questions CNBC should have asked: | Here are the questions CNBC should have asked: |
| Do you think $7.25 is high enough for a federal minimum wage? | Do you think $7.25 is high enough for a federal minimum wage? |
| Could you survive on about $15,000 a year? | Could you survive on about $15,000 a year? |
| Do you know the average age of a minimum wage worker in America? | Do you know the average age of a minimum wage worker in America? |
| Nine of the candidates on that stage are millionaires. Ask them: what do you think you and other millionaires should be paying in taxes? | Nine of the candidates on that stage are millionaires. Ask them: what do you think you and other millionaires should be paying in taxes? |
| Ask candidates with children like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz - are you worried about paying for your kids’ college? How will you do it? | Ask candidates with children like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz - are you worried about paying for your kids’ college? How will you do it? |
| Ask Carly Fiorina how it felt to be one of the first female CEO? What advice would she give to average American women about asking for a raise? After all, in 2014, US women earned 79 cents for every dollar that men did. | Ask Carly Fiorina how it felt to be one of the first female CEO? What advice would she give to average American women about asking for a raise? After all, in 2014, US women earned 79 cents for every dollar that men did. |
| And why not ask Fiorina about the 30,000 people she laid off at HP? Does she ever think about them? | And why not ask Fiorina about the 30,000 people she laid off at HP? Does she ever think about them? |
| 2.36am GMT | |
| 02:36 | |
| The chairman of the Republican National Committee is not happy with the proceedings this evening. | The chairman of the Republican National Committee is not happy with the proceedings this evening. |
| The candidates blasted the moderators for asking questions they said were irrelevant or petty or antagonistic. | The candidates blasted the moderators for asking questions they said were irrelevant or petty or antagonistic. |
| CNBC should be ashamed of how this debate was handled. #GOPDebate | CNBC should be ashamed of how this debate was handled. #GOPDebate |
| 2.28am GMT | |
| 02:28 | |
| Lauren Gambino | Lauren Gambino |
| It was the Republicans’ big night, but it was Hillary Clinton’s name we kept hearing, reports Lauren Gambino, who is on the campaign trail with the Democratic frontrunner in Bartlett, New Hampshire. | It was the Republicans’ big night, but it was Hillary Clinton’s name we kept hearing, reports Lauren Gambino, who is on the campaign trail with the Democratic frontrunner in Bartlett, New Hampshire. |
| While the top 10 polling Republicans take center stage in Boulder, the Democratic frontrunner is watching the debate – and live texting her reactions – from somewhere* in New Hampshire. | While the top 10 polling Republicans take center stage in Boulder, the Democratic frontrunner is watching the debate – and live texting her reactions – from somewhere* in New Hampshire. |
| *She was asked several times by journalists at two events where she was watching the debate and did not answer. It’s possible too that she couldn’t hear the question amid the adoring throngs, but not likely, leaving us to wonder … where in the Granite State is Hillary Clinton tweeting from? | *She was asked several times by journalists at two events where she was watching the debate and did not answer. It’s possible too that she couldn’t hear the question amid the adoring throngs, but not likely, leaving us to wonder … where in the Granite State is Hillary Clinton tweeting from? |
| Her first text of the night: “Hillary here. I’m here in New Hampshire watching the GOP debate - how about you?” | Her first text of the night: “Hillary here. I’m here in New Hampshire watching the GOP debate - how about you?” |
| Earlier in the evening, Clinton described the third Republican debate as “a little scary” and said she “feels sorry” for her GOP counterparts. During a speech at the party’s Annual Grover Cleveland Dinner in Bartlett – where Cleveland’s grandson George impersonating his presidential ancestor introduced Clinton – she joked: “For those of you masochistic enough to want to watch we’ll try to get you out” of the event in time. | Earlier in the evening, Clinton described the third Republican debate as “a little scary” and said she “feels sorry” for her GOP counterparts. During a speech at the party’s Annual Grover Cleveland Dinner in Bartlett – where Cleveland’s grandson George impersonating his presidential ancestor introduced Clinton – she joked: “For those of you masochistic enough to want to watch we’ll try to get you out” of the event in time. |
| Clinton carried on the joke, saying that the Republican debates are actually a lot like a “reality TV show, but the cast of characters are out of touch with actual reality”. The room roared with laughter. | Clinton carried on the joke, saying that the Republican debates are actually a lot like a “reality TV show, but the cast of characters are out of touch with actual reality”. The room roared with laughter. |
| She also said she felt bad for Republicans, who attacked her “when in doubt, when they have nothing else to say, when they don’t want to take any responsible action”. | She also said she felt bad for Republicans, who attacked her “when in doubt, when they have nothing else to say, when they don’t want to take any responsible action”. |
| Meanwhile, residents in the early voting states of New Hampshire and Iowa are hearing Clinton’s voice coming out of the television, too. The Clinton campaign began airing a series of issue-based television ads featuring working women. Though Clinton does not appear in the ads, she does the voice over. | Meanwhile, residents in the early voting states of New Hampshire and Iowa are hearing Clinton’s voice coming out of the television, too. The Clinton campaign began airing a series of issue-based television ads featuring working women. Though Clinton does not appear in the ads, she does the voice over. |
| So far we’ve seen a commercial about Sarah, the senior business analysts, Alexis, the financial programming associate, Mindy, the cardiac nurse and Cheryl, the Kindergarten teacher. | So far we’ve seen a commercial about Sarah, the senior business analysts, Alexis, the financial programming associate, Mindy, the cardiac nurse and Cheryl, the Kindergarten teacher. |
| Oh, and her team is rapidly working to respond to attacks over immigration, taxes, social security and Medicare, the economy, healthcare, LGBT equality, equal pay, affordable college, gun safety, criminal justice, raising the minimum wage and climate change. | Oh, and her team is rapidly working to respond to attacks over immigration, taxes, social security and Medicare, the economy, healthcare, LGBT equality, equal pay, affordable college, gun safety, criminal justice, raising the minimum wage and climate change. |
| Wherever she is, she’s keeping busy. | Wherever she is, she’s keeping busy. |
| #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/rBT90JvCmM | #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/rBT90JvCmM |
| Updated | |
| at 2.29am GMT | |
| 2.22am GMT | |
| 02:22 | |
| Jeb Bush’s campaign is angry at CNBC, according to a Politico report, which witnesses a backstage spat. | Jeb Bush’s campaign is angry at CNBC, according to a Politico report, which witnesses a backstage spat. |
| Jeb Bush campaign manager Danny Diaz got into a heated confrontation with a CNBC producer outside the debate as it was happening, according to two sources familiar with the incident. | Jeb Bush campaign manager Danny Diaz got into a heated confrontation with a CNBC producer outside the debate as it was happening, according to two sources familiar with the incident. |
| 2.21am GMT | |
| 02:21 | |
| Closing statements. | Closing statements. |
| Paul: I want small government. The budget deal this week is terrible. I’m going to filibuster it tomorrow. Enough’s enough. | Paul: I want small government. The budget deal this week is terrible. I’m going to filibuster it tomorrow. Enough’s enough. |
| Christie: Speaking to camera. Are you fed up with Washington? Are you concerned about the debt? Are you serious about it? Then elect someone who’s “deadly serious about changing this culture.” Chris Christie for clean government. | Christie: Speaking to camera. Are you fed up with Washington? Are you concerned about the debt? Are you serious about it? Then elect someone who’s “deadly serious about changing this culture.” Chris Christie for clean government. |
| Cruz: Who up here has actually taken on Washington? I have. My dad fled oppression. Freedom is personal for me. | Cruz: Who up here has actually taken on Washington? I have. My dad fled oppression. Freedom is personal for me. |
| Fiorina: Every election we hear talk and intentions. “What we need now is a proven leader who has produced results. That’s how you go from secretary to CEO.” “I am Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. In your heart of hearts you cannot wait to see a debate between [me] and HRC.” | Fiorina: Every election we hear talk and intentions. “What we need now is a proven leader who has produced results. That’s how you go from secretary to CEO.” “I am Hillary Clinton’s worst nightmare. In your heart of hearts you cannot wait to see a debate between [me] and HRC.” |
| Carson: I want to thank my colleagues and the audience “for being attentive and noticing the questions and noticing the answers.” People are waking up. Political correctness stinks. | Carson: I want to thank my colleagues and the audience “for being attentive and noticing the questions and noticing the answers.” People are waking up. Political correctness stinks. |
| Trump: Our country doesn’t win anymore. We used to. We lose on trade, we lose with Isis. With Iran. We don’t win. These folks, CNBC. $250,000 for a 30-second ad. Nobody wants to stand up here for 3.5 hours. They lost a lot of money. Everybody said it was going to be 3.5 hours. And after two minutes. I renegotiated it down to two hours so we can get the hell out of here. | Trump: Our country doesn’t win anymore. We used to. We lose on trade, we lose with Isis. With Iran. We don’t win. These folks, CNBC. $250,000 for a 30-second ad. Nobody wants to stand up here for 3.5 hours. They lost a lot of money. Everybody said it was going to be 3.5 hours. And after two minutes. I renegotiated it down to two hours so we can get the hell out of here. |
| Rubio: America is great. I love it. It’s special. But it’s slipping away. Leaders are out of touch. Let’s expand the American dream. Vote Rubio. | Rubio: America is great. I love it. It’s special. But it’s slipping away. Leaders are out of touch. Let’s expand the American dream. Vote Rubio. |
| Bush: America’s at a crossroads. I will change the culture in Washington. Just as I changed [cough] the culture in Tallahassee. We rule. Thank you. | Bush: America’s at a crossroads. I will change the culture in Washington. Just as I changed [cough] the culture in Tallahassee. We rule. Thank you. |
| Huckabee: To the media this is a game and we’re the players. But we give up our livelihoods and step out on this stage and fight for the people. “For those of us who are serious enough to run for president, think long and hard about why we’re here... we’re not here for ourselves.” | Huckabee: To the media this is a game and we’re the players. But we give up our livelihoods and step out on this stage and fight for the people. “For those of us who are serious enough to run for president, think long and hard about why we’re here... we’re not here for ourselves.” |
| Kasich: If you’ve saved one life, you’ve changed the world. We need to rebuild families. We need to know our neighbors. America is great from the bottom up and the bottom up is us. We will renew America. God Bless America. | Kasich: If you’ve saved one life, you’ve changed the world. We need to rebuild families. We need to know our neighbors. America is great from the bottom up and the bottom up is us. We will renew America. God Bless America. |
| Applause. | Applause. |
| That’s it. Checkered flag. | That’s it. Checkered flag. |
| Updated | |
| at 2.25am GMT | |
| 2.11am GMT | |
| 02:11 | |
| Roger Stone is the longtime Republican political operative and former adviser, this cycle, to Donald Trump. He accuses Kasich of dealing pot in the 1970s. | Roger Stone is the longtime Republican political operative and former adviser, this cycle, to Donald Trump. He accuses Kasich of dealing pot in the 1970s. |
| The story feels pretty iffy – not that Kasich sold pot, but that Stone fired him for it in 1976 | The story feels pretty iffy – not that Kasich sold pot, but that Stone fired him for it in 1976 |
| Hypocrisy ? I fired John Kasich from the 1976 Reagan Campaign ... For selling pot to other field men | Hypocrisy ? I fired John Kasich from the 1976 Reagan Campaign ... For selling pot to other field men |
| 2.06am GMT | |
| 02:06 | |
| It’s Royals 4, Mets 1, in the bottom of the 6th. You can catch up over on our World Series live blog here. Oh wait the debate is back. | It’s Royals 4, Mets 1, in the bottom of the 6th. You can catch up over on our World Series live blog here. Oh wait the debate is back. |
| The #WorldSeries and the #GOPDebate battling it out in search tonight pic.twitter.com/z02yHKzwSo | The #WorldSeries and the #GOPDebate battling it out in search tonight pic.twitter.com/z02yHKzwSo |
| Updated | |
| at 2.07am GMT | |
| 2.03am GMT | |
| 02:03 | |
| Chris Christie = Allen Iverson. “I’m supposed to be a franchised player, and we in here talking about practice. Not a game!” | Chris Christie = Allen Iverson. “I’m supposed to be a franchised player, and we in here talking about practice. Not a game!” |
| 2.01am GMT | |
| 02:01 | |
| Commercial break with closing statements coming up – so who’s winning? | Commercial break with closing statements coming up – so who’s winning? |
| It’s dawning on us that some of you out there have lost the feeling of jaunty adventure normally associated with national presidential debates. Let’s talk about that? | It’s dawning on us that some of you out there have lost the feeling of jaunty adventure normally associated with national presidential debates. Let’s talk about that? |
| Is there any product I can buy in Colorado that would take my mind off this garbage fire of a debate? | Is there any product I can buy in Colorado that would take my mind off this garbage fire of a debate? |
| 1.58am GMT | |
| 01:58 | |
| Bush is asked about betting on fantasy sports. Isn’t that gambling? | Bush is asked about betting on fantasy sports. Isn’t that gambling? |
| “Well first of all, I’m 7-0 in my fantasy football league,” he says. But he says it has to be looked at it. “There has to be some regulation, if they can’t regulate it themselves, the NFL has to look at it.” | “Well first of all, I’m 7-0 in my fantasy football league,” he says. But he says it has to be looked at it. “There has to be some regulation, if they can’t regulate it themselves, the NFL has to look at it.” |
| Christie strikes with a big applause line, figuratively pulling out his hair that with the urgent crises facing the county the debate has turned to fantasy football. | Christie strikes with a big applause line, figuratively pulling out his hair that with the urgent crises facing the county the debate has turned to fantasy football. |
| We are 19tn in debt, we have Isis and al-Qaeda attacking us, and we’re talking about fantasy football?! | We are 19tn in debt, we have Isis and al-Qaeda attacking us, and we’re talking about fantasy football?! |
| Ok. I'm tough on Christie. But his fantasy football answer was his best moment tonight | Ok. I'm tough on Christie. But his fantasy football answer was his best moment tonight |
| Harwood, the moderator, talks over Christie in asking a new question, about renewable energy. | Harwood, the moderator, talks over Christie in asking a new question, about renewable energy. |
| “John do you want me to answer or do you want to answer? Because I’ll tell you, even in New Jersey what you’re doing is rude,” Christie says. | “John do you want me to answer or do you want to answer? Because I’ll tell you, even in New Jersey what you’re doing is rude,” Christie says. |
| More applause. The crowd is against these moderators. | More applause. The crowd is against these moderators. |
| Updated | |
| at 2.00am GMT | |
| 1.56am GMT | |
| 01:56 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live in the “stand your ground” state of Florida: | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live in the “stand your ground” state of Florida: |
| You know that your campaign is really reaching for anything at the point at which you pledge that, as president, you’ll make sure that America’s cops will no longer feel unsafe when they get out of their cars. Chris Christie is going to #8 with a bullet. | You know that your campaign is really reaching for anything at the point at which you pledge that, as president, you’ll make sure that America’s cops will no longer feel unsafe when they get out of their cars. Chris Christie is going to #8 with a bullet. |
| (I actually don’t know where Christie is currently ranked. I can’t think that helped.) | (I actually don’t know where Christie is currently ranked. I can’t think that helped.) |
| 1.54am GMT | |
| 01:54 | |
| Kasich is asked about student debt. He says that in Ohio, universities will not get paid under a new plan until students complete courses. He says there are other revenue streams for universities. He uses the word “disintermediate.” | Kasich is asked about student debt. He says that in Ohio, universities will not get paid under a new plan until students complete courses. He says there are other revenue streams for universities. He uses the word “disintermediate.” |
| He arrives at a policy proposal. Public service to pay off student debt. “This is a big moral issue for America, living a life bigger than yourself.” | He arrives at a policy proposal. Public service to pay off student debt. “This is a big moral issue for America, living a life bigger than yourself.” |
| Bush says that government should not get involved in student loans because it would blow up the debt. | Bush says that government should not get involved in student loans because it would blow up the debt. |
| 1.52am GMT | |
| 01:52 | |
| Fiorina says “the more the government gets engaged in the economy, the slower the economy becomes.” She mentions minimum wage laws. | Fiorina says “the more the government gets engaged in the economy, the slower the economy becomes.” She mentions minimum wage laws. |
| 1.52am GMT | |
| 01:52 | |
| Cindy Casares | Cindy Casares |
| From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares: | From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares: |
| Marco Rubio just said: “Our immigration system, from now on, needs to be merit-based unlike how it was when my parents got in.” | Marco Rubio just said: “Our immigration system, from now on, needs to be merit-based unlike how it was when my parents got in.” |
| Ok, maybe I’m paraphrasing, but that’s practically what he just said with a straight face. That can’t have been easy. | Ok, maybe I’m paraphrasing, but that’s practically what he just said with a straight face. That can’t have been easy. |
| 1.51am GMT | |
| 01:51 | |
| Christie says crime is going up because the president does not support police. | Christie says crime is going up because the president does not support police. |
| The number one job of the president... is to protect the safety and security of the American people. This president has failed. | The number one job of the president... is to protect the safety and security of the American people. This president has failed. |
| Actually it’s to uphold the constitution. | Actually it’s to uphold the constitution. |
| Whatever the case, Christie says he would do better. | Whatever the case, Christie says he would do better. |
| Updated | |
| at 1.52am GMT | |
| 1.50am GMT | |
| 01:50 | |
| Dominic Rushe | Dominic Rushe |
| Much more substance in the “grown-up” debate, writes Dominic Rushe. | Much more substance in the “grown-up” debate, writes Dominic Rushe. |
| There was almost a serious debate about visas and in particular the H-1B visas, given to skilled tech workers from abroad, that Silicon Valley is lobbying so hard to have increased. | There was almost a serious debate about visas and in particular the H-1B visas, given to skilled tech workers from abroad, that Silicon Valley is lobbying so hard to have increased. |
| There is some compelling evidence that H-1B visas, loved by Mark Zuckerberg et al, are a scam. This study from the Economic Policy Institute found the top 10 users of H-1B’s were all offshore outsourcing firms. | There is some compelling evidence that H-1B visas, loved by Mark Zuckerberg et al, are a scam. This study from the Economic Policy Institute found the top 10 users of H-1B’s were all offshore outsourcing firms. |
| “There are two reasons these firms hire H-1Bs instead of Americans: 1) an H-1B worker can legally be paid less than a U.S. worker in the same occupation and locality; and 2) the H-1B worker learns the job and then rotates back to the home country and takes the work with him,” according to the report. | “There are two reasons these firms hire H-1Bs instead of Americans: 1) an H-1B worker can legally be paid less than a U.S. worker in the same occupation and locality; and 2) the H-1B worker learns the job and then rotates back to the home country and takes the work with him,” according to the report. |
| Zuckerberg-backed lobby FWD.US has been pushing for an increase, supported by Rubio. And Trump has been highly critical of the scheme - but not tonight. | Zuckerberg-backed lobby FWD.US has been pushing for an increase, supported by Rubio. And Trump has been highly critical of the scheme - but not tonight. |
| Trump has called for employers to pay H-1B workers much more money in an attempt to discourage companies and boost job prospects for Americans. He also wants tech jobs offered to unemployed Americans before workers with H-1B visas | Trump has called for employers to pay H-1B workers much more money in an attempt to discourage companies and boost job prospects for Americans. He also wants tech jobs offered to unemployed Americans before workers with H-1B visas |
| “This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities,” Trump wrote in his immigration plan in August. Tonight he had no problem with Zuck! Interesting. He’s prepared to take on CNBC, even Fox, but not Facebook. | “This will improve the number of black, Hispanic and female workers in Silicon Valley who have been passed over in favor of the H-1B program. Mark Zuckerberg’s personal Senator, Marco Rubio, has a bill to triple H-1Bs that would decimate women and minorities,” Trump wrote in his immigration plan in August. Tonight he had no problem with Zuck! Interesting. He’s prepared to take on CNBC, even Fox, but not Facebook. |
| 1.49am GMT | |
| 01:49 | |
| Huckabee is asked whether Trump has the moral authority to unite the country. | Huckabee is asked whether Trump has the moral authority to unite the country. |
| Huckabee says he loves Donald Trump, “he’s a good man.” | Huckabee says he loves Donald Trump, “he’s a good man.” |
| “I’m wearing a Donald Trump tie tonight, get over that one.” | “I’m wearing a Donald Trump tie tonight, get over that one.” |
| Is it made in Mexico? Kasich asks. | Is it made in Mexico? Kasich asks. |
| “That’s a nasty question,” Trump says, apparently in reference to the original question but perhaps to the Mexico question. | “That’s a nasty question,” Trump says, apparently in reference to the original question but perhaps to the Mexico question. |
| 1.48am GMT | |
| 01:48 | |
| Trump is asked about his concealed carry permit and whether he would be more comfortable if his employees could carry at work. | Trump is asked about his concealed carry permit and whether he would be more comfortable if his employees could carry at work. |
| “Yes I might feel more comfortable. I have a permit, which is very unusual in New York, to carry. And sometimes I carry. Not a lot. But I like to be unpredictable.” | “Yes I might feel more comfortable. I have a permit, which is very unusual in New York, to carry. And sometimes I carry. Not a lot. But I like to be unpredictable.” |
| Laugh and applause. Ha ha. ha. Trump says he would change policies at Trump resorts to allow guns. | Laugh and applause. Ha ha. ha. Trump says he would change policies at Trump resorts to allow guns. |
| 1.46am GMT | |
| 01:46 | |
| They’re back. CNBC hits Trump with a fact check for his denying he called Rubio Zuckerberg’s senator. | They’re back. CNBC hits Trump with a fact check for his denying he called Rubio Zuckerberg’s senator. |
| It’s on your web site! Quick of CNBC points out. | It’s on your web site! Quick of CNBC points out. |
| Trump says however people come in they have to come in legally. | Trump says however people come in they have to come in legally. |
| Rubio takes the question. He says that immigrants must “come here to be an American. Not just be in America.” | Rubio takes the question. He says that immigrants must “come here to be an American. Not just be in America.” |
| 1.41am GMT | |
| 01:41 | |
| Commercial break. How much time is left? 20 minutes? | Commercial break. How much time is left? 20 minutes? |
| Who’s winning? Tell us who’s winning! | Who’s winning? Tell us who’s winning! |
| This is the first time I think @JebBush has talked in almost an hour. Not a good sign for a guy who needs a big night. | This is the first time I think @JebBush has talked in almost an hour. Not a good sign for a guy who needs a big night. |
| Pretty sure I've heard Bittersweet Symphony more than I've heard Trump tonight | Pretty sure I've heard Bittersweet Symphony more than I've heard Trump tonight |
| Updated | |
| at 1.45am GMT | |
| 1.41am GMT | |
| 01:41 | |
| Pot question for Kasich. Legalize it? | Pot question for Kasich. Legalize it? |
| “Sending mixed signals to kids about drugs is a disaster,” he says. | “Sending mixed signals to kids about drugs is a disaster,” he says. |
| Then Kasich switches back to income inequality and makes a call for freezing all regulations for a year except for on public safety, cutting taxes, balancing the budget and sending federal programs back to the states. | Then Kasich switches back to income inequality and makes a call for freezing all regulations for a year except for on public safety, cutting taxes, balancing the budget and sending federal programs back to the states. |
| “And that will get to the nub of opportunity for children and an ability to see wages rise.” | “And that will get to the nub of opportunity for children and an ability to see wages rise.” |
| “You want to fix America? This is the formula. It worked for Reagan, and it worked for our team in Ohio.” | “You want to fix America? This is the formula. It worked for Reagan, and it worked for our team in Ohio.” |
| It’s a rather rousing speech, but does not seem to get much applause in the room. | It’s a rather rousing speech, but does not seem to get much applause in the room. |
| 1.38am GMT | |
| 01:38 | |
| We’re on to Rubio’s tax plan. The Tax Foundation has scored Rubio’s plan as saying that incomes for top earners would go up 29% while middle incomes would rise 15%, Harwood says. | We’re on to Rubio’s tax plan. The Tax Foundation has scored Rubio’s plan as saying that incomes for top earners would go up 29% while middle incomes would rise 15%, Harwood says. |
| Rubio starts talking really fast and brings up his dry cleaner. He basically accuses Harwood of making up the Tax Foundation scoring. | Rubio starts talking really fast and brings up his dry cleaner. He basically accuses Harwood of making up the Tax Foundation scoring. |
| Rand Paul cuts in, laboriously. He has a rather difficult time getting the microphone but he manages. He says he gets rid of the payroll tax. (Paul supports a 14.5% flat tax except for the lowest earners pay 0.) | Rand Paul cuts in, laboriously. He has a rather difficult time getting the microphone but he manages. He says he gets rid of the payroll tax. (Paul supports a 14.5% flat tax except for the lowest earners pay 0.) |
| They’re all trying to jump in with their memorable tax plans. | They’re all trying to jump in with their memorable tax plans. |
| 1.34am GMT | |
| 01:34 | |
| Adam Gabbatt | Adam Gabbatt |
| The stand-out moment from tonight’s debate so far, asks Adam Gabbatt?Jeb Bush’s promise to give a “warm kiss” to a Democrat capable of cutting spending. | The stand-out moment from tonight’s debate so far, asks Adam Gabbatt?Jeb Bush’s promise to give a “warm kiss” to a Democrat capable of cutting spending. |
| The image of Bush’s soft, puckered lips slowly moving towards a political rival, the light of an open fire dancing upon their entwined bodies, has captured the mood of the nation. Or at least it has disgusted some people on Twitter. | The image of Bush’s soft, puckered lips slowly moving towards a political rival, the light of an open fire dancing upon their entwined bodies, has captured the mood of the nation. Or at least it has disgusted some people on Twitter. |
| The Warmest Kisser on Planet Earth, Jeb Bush #WarmKiss pic.twitter.com/Gu6dedggfR | The Warmest Kisser on Planet Earth, Jeb Bush #WarmKiss pic.twitter.com/Gu6dedggfR |
| By the way, do not google warm kiss. That is not the kind of warm kiss Bush was referring to. | By the way, do not google warm kiss. That is not the kind of warm kiss Bush was referring to. |
| 1.34am GMT | |
| 01:34 | |
| If you were following the runaway blimp story of earlier today -- that just came up. It was pretty good. | If you were following the runaway blimp story of earlier today -- that just came up. It was pretty good. |
| Huckabee: “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government.” https://t.co/3yuG8mvNrQ | Huckabee: “If you saw that blimp that got cut loose in Maryland today, it’s the perfect example of government.” https://t.co/3yuG8mvNrQ |
| Huckabee wins the debate for making the runaway blimp a metaphor for government. | Huckabee wins the debate for making the runaway blimp a metaphor for government. |
| I just reserved the Twitter handle @BlimpMetaphor #CNBCGOPDebate #GOPDebate | I just reserved the Twitter handle @BlimpMetaphor #CNBCGOPDebate #GOPDebate |
| Updated | |
| at 1.36am GMT | |
| 1.32am GMT | |
| 01:32 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund: | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund: |
| “The Democrats have the ultimate Super Pac, it’s called the mainstream media.” | “The Democrats have the ultimate Super Pac, it’s called the mainstream media.” |
| Marco Rubio was doing some kindergarten-level trolling, especially after Ted Cruz already demonized the moderators as biased attack dogs in the middle of a debate ... where Tea Party inspiration Rick Santelli is asking questions. | Marco Rubio was doing some kindergarten-level trolling, especially after Ted Cruz already demonized the moderators as biased attack dogs in the middle of a debate ... where Tea Party inspiration Rick Santelli is asking questions. |
| 1.32am GMT | |
| 01:32 | |
| Carson: 'this is a bunch of crap' | Carson: 'this is a bunch of crap' |
| Paul takes a question about the Fed. “We shouldn’t have price controls on the price of money,” he says. | Paul takes a question about the Fed. “We shouldn’t have price controls on the price of money,” he says. |
| Carson takes a question about support he had voiced for oil subsides. | Carson takes a question about support he had voiced for oil subsides. |
| “I was wrong about taking the oil subsidy,” he says. He says he studied it and changed his mind. “The best policy is to get rid of all subsidy, and get government out of our lives,” he says. | “I was wrong about taking the oil subsidy,” he says. He says he studied it and changed his mind. “The best policy is to get rid of all subsidy, and get government out of our lives,” he says. |
| Then Carson says “this is a bunch of crap” – did he say that? He kind of swallowed the line. Not characteristic speech from the good doctor. | Then Carson says “this is a bunch of crap” – did he say that? He kind of swallowed the line. Not characteristic speech from the good doctor. |
| Did Ben Carson just say "A bunch of crap?" I didn't know he worked blue. | Did Ben Carson just say "A bunch of crap?" I didn't know he worked blue. |
| Updated | |
| at 1.33am GMT | |
| 1.32am GMT | |
| 01:32 | |
| Cindy Casares | Cindy Casares |
| From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares: | From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares: |
| Ted Cruz opened up to let us know that his father Rafael – an outspoken, staunchly conservative fundamental Christian who often passes judgment on everyone else – was once a deadbeat dad. Turns out he was also a drunk. | Ted Cruz opened up to let us know that his father Rafael – an outspoken, staunchly conservative fundamental Christian who often passes judgment on everyone else – was once a deadbeat dad. Turns out he was also a drunk. |
| Thank God Rafael found Jesus so he could lead Ted to Washington and now we get two Senators for the price of one. | Thank God Rafael found Jesus so he could lead Ted to Washington and now we get two Senators for the price of one. |
| 1.29am GMT | |
| 01:29 | |
| Becky Quick, the moderator, asks Trump about calling Rubio “Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.” | Becky Quick, the moderator, asks Trump about calling Rubio “Mark Zuckerberg’s personal senator.” |
| Trump says, I never have called him any such thing, this is another lie by the lying media liars. | Trump says, I never have called him any such thing, this is another lie by the lying media liars. |
| But: | But: |
| Donald Trump calls Marco Rubio Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator on his website https://t.co/WFF2pUuoQL pic.twitter.com/gM5oSCM3rD | Donald Trump calls Marco Rubio Mark Zuckerberg's personal senator on his website https://t.co/WFF2pUuoQL pic.twitter.com/gM5oSCM3rD |
| 1.28am GMT | |
| 01:28 | |
| Trump gets in his much-anticipated hit on Super Pacs. | Trump gets in his much-anticipated hit on Super Pacs. |
| “I’m the only person in either campaign that’s self-funding,” Trump says. | “I’m the only person in either campaign that’s self-funding,” Trump says. |
| “I will be putting up, you know, tremendous amounts of money. Super pacs are a disaster, they’re a scam... and I’m not blaming these folks, but, I guess I do.” | “I will be putting up, you know, tremendous amounts of money. Super pacs are a disaster, they’re a scam... and I’m not blaming these folks, but, I guess I do.” |
| Then Trump refers to “all of these nasty and ridiculous questions.” | Then Trump refers to “all of these nasty and ridiculous questions.” |
| Rubio jumps in. “Democrats have the ultimate super Pac. It’s called the mainstream media.” | Rubio jumps in. “Democrats have the ultimate super Pac. It’s called the mainstream media.” |
| Then he talks about Clinton’s appearance before the Benghazi committee, calling it damning -- for Clinton. “It was the week she got exposed as a liar. But she has her Super Pac helping her out. The American mainstream media.” | Then he talks about Clinton’s appearance before the Benghazi committee, calling it damning -- for Clinton. “It was the week she got exposed as a liar. But she has her Super Pac helping her out. The American mainstream media.” |
| Media really taking it on the chin tonight. | Media really taking it on the chin tonight. |
| 1.25am GMT | |
| 01:25 | |
| Jessica Valenti | Jessica Valenti |
| From Guardian US columnist Jessica Valenti: | From Guardian US columnist Jessica Valenti: |
| It was disappointing to see Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina pivot from giving real answers to questions about their views on equal pay. Cruz’s answer was basically just listing a bunch of women in his life – we get it, some of your best friends are women. | It was disappointing to see Ted Cruz and Carly Fiorina pivot from giving real answers to questions about their views on equal pay. Cruz’s answer was basically just listing a bunch of women in his life – we get it, some of your best friends are women. |
| Fiorina went after Clinton, claiming that “ever single policy she espouses has been demonstrably bad for women.” Come on. (Also, let’s talk about how bad being anti-choice is for women and their family’s economics.) | Fiorina went after Clinton, claiming that “ever single policy she espouses has been demonstrably bad for women.” Come on. (Also, let’s talk about how bad being anti-choice is for women and their family’s economics.) |
| And it looks like Fiorina is back on the train to Fibs-ville again: No, women didn’t lose 92% of the jobs lost under Obama. | And it looks like Fiorina is back on the train to Fibs-ville again: No, women didn’t lose 92% of the jobs lost under Obama. |
| 1.24am GMT | |
| 01:24 | |
| Rubio is asked about his support for expanded H1-B visas for skilled immigrants. Rubio says American workers should have the first shot at jobs and America should train more high-skilled workers “so we don’t have to rely on people abroad.” | Rubio is asked about his support for expanded H1-B visas for skilled immigrants. Rubio says American workers should have the first shot at jobs and America should train more high-skilled workers “so we don’t have to rely on people abroad.” |
| 1.21am GMT | |
| 01:21 | |
| Sabrina Siddiqui | Sabrina Siddiqui |
| Jeb Bush finally threw down the gauntlet at his former protege Marco Rubio tonight, but his efforts to attack the Florida senator may have backfired, reports Sabrina Siddiqui, who has followed Rubio’s campaign closely. | Jeb Bush finally threw down the gauntlet at his former protege Marco Rubio tonight, but his efforts to attack the Florida senator may have backfired, reports Sabrina Siddiqui, who has followed Rubio’s campaign closely. |
| Bush interjected as Rubio tried to explain away his low attendance record in the Senate, on the same day one of the largest newspapers in their home state of Florida called on Rubio to resign his seat. | Bush interjected as Rubio tried to explain away his low attendance record in the Senate, on the same day one of the largest newspapers in their home state of Florida called on Rubio to resign his seat. |
| Rubio recalled how several presidential candidates before him had missed a large percentage of their votes - including Barack Obama and John Kerry - and yet the same paper, the Florida Sun Sentinel, endorsed them for president. | Rubio recalled how several presidential candidates before him had missed a large percentage of their votes - including Barack Obama and John Kerry - and yet the same paper, the Florida Sun Sentinel, endorsed them for president. |
| “I read the editorial with great amusement,” Rubio said. “This is another example of the double standard that exists in this country, between the mainstream media and the conservatives.” | “I read the editorial with great amusement,” Rubio said. “This is another example of the double standard that exists in this country, between the mainstream media and the conservatives.” |
| The crowd erupted in applause -- only that’s where Bush stepped in, speaking as a resident of Florida and thus one of the senator’s constituents. | The crowd erupted in applause -- only that’s where Bush stepped in, speaking as a resident of Florida and thus one of the senator’s constituents. |
| “I expected he would do constituent service, which means he shows up to work,” said Bush, while seeking to disprove Rubio’s theory of bias by pointing out the paper had endorsed his 2010 Senate bid. | “I expected he would do constituent service, which means he shows up to work,” said Bush, while seeking to disprove Rubio’s theory of bias by pointing out the paper had endorsed his 2010 Senate bid. |
| “When you signed up for this, this is a six-year term. You should be showing up to work,” Bush said. “Literally, the Senate, is it a French work week? You get three days to show up. | “When you signed up for this, this is a six-year term. You should be showing up to work,” Bush said. “Literally, the Senate, is it a French work week? You get three days to show up. |
| “Just resign and let somebody else take the job. There are a lot of people who are living paycheck to paycheck in Florida.” | “Just resign and let somebody else take the job. There are a lot of people who are living paycheck to paycheck in Florida.” |
| But Rubio was ready, having clearly prepared for the moment in the wake of increasingly aggressive barbs from Team Jeb leading up to the debate. | But Rubio was ready, having clearly prepared for the moment in the wake of increasingly aggressive barbs from Team Jeb leading up to the debate. |
| “Someone convinced you attacking me is going to help you,” Rubio told his former ally, before pivoting to his optimistic campaign message. “Here’s the bottom line: my campaign will continue to be about the future of America. | “Someone convinced you attacking me is going to help you,” Rubio told his former ally, before pivoting to his optimistic campaign message. “Here’s the bottom line: my campaign will continue to be about the future of America. |
| “I’m not going to attack anyone else on stage. I will continue to have tremendous admiration for Governor Bush. I’m not running against anyone on the stage. I’m running for president, because there is no way we can elect Hillary Clinton.” | “I’m not going to attack anyone else on stage. I will continue to have tremendous admiration for Governor Bush. I’m not running against anyone on the stage. I’m running for president, because there is no way we can elect Hillary Clinton.” |
| Bush and Rubio are competing for the mantle of the more mainstream, electable Republican candidate. The two are also courting similar donors, and Bush’s inability to gain traction poses a risk that he may lose financial backers to Rubio. | Bush and Rubio are competing for the mantle of the more mainstream, electable Republican candidate. The two are also courting similar donors, and Bush’s inability to gain traction poses a risk that he may lose financial backers to Rubio. |
| Rubio has only slightly risen in the polls over the last month, but his aides have been optimistic that his well-received debate performances will help boost his profile - and persuade Bush donors to eye their younger, insurgent campaign. | Rubio has only slightly risen in the polls over the last month, but his aides have been optimistic that his well-received debate performances will help boost his profile - and persuade Bush donors to eye their younger, insurgent campaign. |
| Updated | |
| at 1.27am GMT | |
| 1.21am GMT | |
| 01:21 | |
| Carson downplays connection to medical supplement firm | Carson downplays connection to medical supplement firm |
| Carson is asked about his affiliation with Mannatech, a medical supplement maker accused of false advertising. | Carson is asked about his affiliation with Mannatech, a medical supplement maker accused of false advertising. |
| He says he never had anything to do with the company and he can’t help it if they used his image on their web site. | He says he never had anything to do with the company and he can’t help it if they used his image on their web site. |
| Quintanilla pushes him: But does it not speak to your judgment that your image appeared on this discredited site? | Quintanilla pushes him: But does it not speak to your judgment that your image appeared on this discredited site? |
| The moderator is booed. But Carson was involved with the company: | The moderator is booed. But Carson was involved with the company: |
| BEN CARSON APPEARED IN A VIDEO FOR THAT COMPANY https://t.co/jnxdHZjchO | BEN CARSON APPEARED IN A VIDEO FOR THAT COMPANY https://t.co/jnxdHZjchO |
| Ben Carson saying nonsense about his relationship with Mannatech. @jimgeraghty's write-up on this is important https://t.co/pt40mmjI7g | Ben Carson saying nonsense about his relationship with Mannatech. @jimgeraghty's write-up on this is important https://t.co/pt40mmjI7g |
| Watch out @cnbc - the GOP knows you hate America. #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/oZFQaSZiMM | Watch out @cnbc - the GOP knows you hate America. #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/oZFQaSZiMM |
| Updated | |
| at 1.26am GMT | |
| 1.18am GMT | |
| 01:18 | |
| Carson is asked about his role on the corporate board of Costco, which is gay-friendly, in some rankings. Given his views on homosexuality. | Carson is asked about his role on the corporate board of Costco, which is gay-friendly, in some rankings. Given his views on homosexuality. |
| Carson says ‘you must not understand my views on homosexuality.’ | Carson says ‘you must not understand my views on homosexuality.’ |
| He says the Constitution protects everybody. The he says his views on same-sex marriage are not the same as his views on homosexuality. | He says the Constitution protects everybody. The he says his views on same-sex marriage are not the same as his views on homosexuality. |
| “They should not automatically assume that because you believe in marriage between a man and a woman, that you are a homophobe.” | “They should not automatically assume that because you believe in marriage between a man and a woman, that you are a homophobe.” |
| 1.16am GMT | |
| 01:16 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist and Marco Rubio constituent Jeb Lund, live in Tampa, Florida: | From Guardian US columnist and Marco Rubio constituent Jeb Lund, live in Tampa, Florida: |
| CNBC reporter Becky Quick going in on Rubio’s using Florida Republican party credit cards and defaulting on a mortgage is the first time I’ve heard this brought up in a debate and a mainstream forum like this. | CNBC reporter Becky Quick going in on Rubio’s using Florida Republican party credit cards and defaulting on a mortgage is the first time I’ve heard this brought up in a debate and a mainstream forum like this. |
| Naturally, he dismissed the issues as “discredited” – which is a good reply if today is Opposite Day. | Naturally, he dismissed the issues as “discredited” – which is a good reply if today is Opposite Day. |
| 1.15am GMT | |
| 01:15 | |
| Cruz: 'The struggle of single moms is extraordinary' | Cruz: 'The struggle of single moms is extraordinary' |
| Cruz says “we’ve got to turn the economy around for people who are struggling.” | Cruz says “we’ve got to turn the economy around for people who are struggling.” |
| Then he delivers a somewhat surprising lecture on the struggles of single moms. | Then he delivers a somewhat surprising lecture on the struggles of single moms. |
| “You look at working women. There are a lot of single moms in my family. My sister. Both of my aunts. My mom was a single mom [for a while]... thank God my father was invited to a Bible study. | “You look at working women. There are a lot of single moms in my family. My sister. Both of my aunts. My mom was a single mom [for a while]... thank God my father was invited to a Bible study. |
| “The struggle of single moms is extraordinary.” | “The struggle of single moms is extraordinary.” |
| 1.14am GMT | |
| 01:14 | |
| Jeb Bush Inching Podium Closer To Center Of Stage During Commercial Breaks https://t.co/7qFl1d8aln #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/Q7mdCmRHTb | Jeb Bush Inching Podium Closer To Center Of Stage During Commercial Breaks https://t.co/7qFl1d8aln #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/Q7mdCmRHTb |
| 1.13am GMT | |
| 01:13 | |
| Kasich strikes out at this week’s budget deal. | Kasich strikes out at this week’s budget deal. |
| “This is the same old stuff since I left. You spend the money today, hoping you’ll save it tomorrow. | “This is the same old stuff since I left. You spend the money today, hoping you’ll save it tomorrow. |
| “If you really want to get to a balanced budget, you need to reduce your expenses, and you need to grow your economy.” | “If you really want to get to a balanced budget, you need to reduce your expenses, and you need to grow your economy.” |
| Doesn’t sound like rocket science on TV. | Doesn’t sound like rocket science on TV. |
| 1.11am GMT | |
| 01:11 | |
| Rubio is asked about having liquidated a $68,000 retirement fund and taking out a second mortgage on his house. How can he be trusted with the national budget? | Rubio is asked about having liquidated a $68,000 retirement fund and taking out a second mortgage on his house. How can he be trusted with the national budget? |
| He says that’s a list of discredited attacks from his Democratic opponents. Then he talks about growing up without money. “But I’m not worried about my finances, I’m worried about the country’s finances.” | He says that’s a list of discredited attacks from his Democratic opponents. Then he talks about growing up without money. “But I’m not worried about my finances, I’m worried about the country’s finances.” |
| Follow-up question: But you got a $1m book deal. | Follow-up question: But you got a $1m book deal. |
| Rubio: “And I used it to pay off my loans. And it’s available in paperback!” | Rubio: “And I used it to pay off my loans. And it’s available in paperback!” |
| Applause. | Applause. |
| He’s pressed on liquidating his retirement after a book deal like that. He says he’s raising a family in the 21st century. “I didn’t learn about this by reading about it,” he says. | He’s pressed on liquidating his retirement after a book deal like that. He says he’s raising a family in the 21st century. “I didn’t learn about this by reading about it,” he says. |
| Laid down some significant relatability ground there, perhaps. | Laid down some significant relatability ground there, perhaps. |
| 1.08am GMT | |
| 01:08 | |
| Fiorina is asked about ... something she ignores, to talk about creeping socialism. | Fiorina is asked about ... something she ignores, to talk about creeping socialism. |
| “You see folks, this is how socialism starts. Government causes a problem, and then government steps in to solve the problem. This is why, folks, we have to take our government back. | “You see folks, this is how socialism starts. Government causes a problem, and then government steps in to solve the problem. This is why, folks, we have to take our government back. |
| “Big government favors the big, the powerful, wealthy and well-connected and crushes the small and powerless.” | “Big government favors the big, the powerful, wealthy and well-connected and crushes the small and powerless.” |
| She’s applauded. | She’s applauded. |
| 1.08am GMT | |
| 01:08 | |
| Cindy Casares | Cindy Casares |
| From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares in Austin, Texas: | From Guardian US columnist Cindy Casares in Austin, Texas: |
| CNBC anchor Carl Quintanilla confronted Florida senator Marco Rubio about the cognitive dissonance between his Cuban immigrant heritage and his party’s anti-Latino immigrant stance. Rubio has gone from co-sponsoring a bill to create sweeping immigration reform two years ago to co-sponsoring a bill to crack down on so-called sanctuary cities this month. Now nobody trusts him. | CNBC anchor Carl Quintanilla confronted Florida senator Marco Rubio about the cognitive dissonance between his Cuban immigrant heritage and his party’s anti-Latino immigrant stance. Rubio has gone from co-sponsoring a bill to create sweeping immigration reform two years ago to co-sponsoring a bill to crack down on so-called sanctuary cities this month. Now nobody trusts him. |
| Oh, Marco. His first response – to reform immigration policy – was the genuine one. Now he’s only doing what he thinks that he has to do to get his old school Cuban Republican community to like him. But he shouldn’t worry about what a bunch of old hypocrites think. | Oh, Marco. His first response – to reform immigration policy – was the genuine one. Now he’s only doing what he thinks that he has to do to get his old school Cuban Republican community to like him. But he shouldn’t worry about what a bunch of old hypocrites think. |
| Rubio could be at the head of the new generation of Cuban leaders if he’d only do what he knows in his heart is right. | Rubio could be at the head of the new generation of Cuban leaders if he’d only do what he knows in his heart is right. |
| 1.06am GMT | |
| 01:06 | |
| Bush: 'You find me a Democrat that would cut spending $10, I’ll give them a warm kiss' | Bush: 'You find me a Democrat that would cut spending $10, I’ll give them a warm kiss' |
| Bush takes a question about the budget deal. He reverts to his laundry list about US economic performance. “I actually have a record” in Florida, he says. A triple-A debt rating. Economic growth and job creation. | Bush takes a question about the budget deal. He reverts to his laundry list about US economic performance. “I actually have a record” in Florida, he says. A triple-A debt rating. Economic growth and job creation. |
| He ends on a strangely vivid note: | He ends on a strangely vivid note: |
| “You find me a Democrat that would cut spending $10, I’ll give them a warm kiss.” | “You find me a Democrat that would cut spending $10, I’ll give them a warm kiss.” |
| 1.04am GMT | |
| 01:04 | |
| Christie takes a question about no one at General Motors going to jail for faulty ignition switches that caused fatalities. | Christie takes a question about no one at General Motors going to jail for faulty ignition switches that caused fatalities. |
| Christie says he would have prosecuted. The problem with the Obama administration, he says, is “it’s a political justice department.” | Christie says he would have prosecuted. The problem with the Obama administration, he says, is “it’s a political justice department.” |
| He claims justice went after David Petraeus, as an example. Who is now in prison. Oh wait. | He claims justice went after David Petraeus, as an example. Who is now in prison. Oh wait. |
| 1.03am GMT | |
| 01:03 | |
| Megan Carpentier | Megan Carpentier |
| From Guardian US opinion editor Megan Carpentier: | From Guardian US opinion editor Megan Carpentier: |
| Texas Senator Ted Cruz learned the hard way that playing to the audience in the house might not play well with the debate moderators, when he used his time on a substantive question about his economic policies – particularly on the debt limit – to insult the CNBC reporters asking some hard-hitting questions of all the candidates. | Texas Senator Ted Cruz learned the hard way that playing to the audience in the house might not play well with the debate moderators, when he used his time on a substantive question about his economic policies – particularly on the debt limit – to insult the CNBC reporters asking some hard-hitting questions of all the candidates. |
| Cruz – who eventually got 30 seconds to answer the question – decided to use his initial time to earn kudos from the audience for noting that “none” of the members of the media moderating the debate would be voting in the Republican primary and so, he alleged, they should be nicer to the candidates. | Cruz – who eventually got 30 seconds to answer the question – decided to use his initial time to earn kudos from the audience for noting that “none” of the members of the media moderating the debate would be voting in the Republican primary and so, he alleged, they should be nicer to the candidates. |
| (In fairness to Cruz, the debate – which started off with a pro-forma interview question about each candidate’s weakness, turned heated quickly as moderators sought to contrast candidates’ positions with economic realities and actual, you know, math.) | (In fairness to Cruz, the debate – which started off with a pro-forma interview question about each candidate’s weakness, turned heated quickly as moderators sought to contrast candidates’ positions with economic realities and actual, you know, math.) |
| But while Cruz earned a round of applause from an audience that is, by now, completely accustomed to Republicans shrieking about the mainstream media’s liberal bias, to viewers at home, asking Carson to explain how he’d plug the deficit by converting all taxes to tithes and then following up when he couldn’t answer the question is supposed to be a debate moderator’s job. They’re not running for best promise-maker, they’re running for president. And a little realism in the Republican race is better for Republicans than it’ll be for Democrats. | But while Cruz earned a round of applause from an audience that is, by now, completely accustomed to Republicans shrieking about the mainstream media’s liberal bias, to viewers at home, asking Carson to explain how he’d plug the deficit by converting all taxes to tithes and then following up when he couldn’t answer the question is supposed to be a debate moderator’s job. They’re not running for best promise-maker, they’re running for president. And a little realism in the Republican race is better for Republicans than it’ll be for Democrats. |
| 1.02am GMT | |
| 01:02 | |
| Carson is asked about pharmaceutical companies profiteering from charging too much for drugs. | Carson is asked about pharmaceutical companies profiteering from charging too much for drugs. |
| Carson says some companies have abused their positions. “We have to think about... what can we do for the average Americans? .. The average small manufacturer, if they have less than 50 employees, the average cost in terms of regulations is $34,000 per employee. | Carson says some companies have abused their positions. “We have to think about... what can we do for the average Americans? .. The average small manufacturer, if they have less than 50 employees, the average cost in terms of regulations is $34,000 per employee. |
| “We’re going to have to have a major reduction in regulatory influence.” | “We’re going to have to have a major reduction in regulatory influence.” |
| So he answers the question about profiteering with a call to erase regulation. | So he answers the question about profiteering with a call to erase regulation. |
| 1.01am GMT | |
| 01:01 | |
| Trump is asked about the bankruptcies of his Atlantic City casinos. He says he used it to his advantage but never personally filed for bankruptcy. | Trump is asked about the bankruptcies of his Atlantic City casinos. He says he used it to his advantage but never personally filed for bankruptcy. |
| “Came out great... that’s what I could do for the country. ... Boy am I good at solving debt problems. Nobody could solve it like me.” | “Came out great... that’s what I could do for the country. ... Boy am I good at solving debt problems. Nobody could solve it like me.” |
| 1.00am GMT | |
| 01:00 | |
| There’s a Democrat out there watching -- and liking what he sees: | There’s a Democrat out there watching -- and liking what he sees: |
| Never thought I'd agree with @GovMikeHuckabee: we need to stop demonizing seniors. Let's keep our promise to them & expand social security. | Never thought I'd agree with @GovMikeHuckabee: we need to stop demonizing seniors. Let's keep our promise to them & expand social security. |
| 12.59am GMT | |
| 00:59 | |
| Big moments so far we’d say from Cruz and Rubio. Carson and Bush kind of wavering. Trump amazingly silent-ish. | Big moments so far we’d say from Cruz and Rubio. Carson and Bush kind of wavering. Trump amazingly silent-ish. |
| 12.56am GMT | |
| 00:56 | |
| Commercial break. Bracing policy conversation breaking out tonight in Boulder! Who’s winning do you think? | Commercial break. Bracing policy conversation breaking out tonight in Boulder! Who’s winning do you think? |
| 12.56am GMT | |
| 00:56 | |
| Cruz offers to buy Quintanilla, the moderator, “some famous Colorado brownies.” | Cruz offers to buy Quintanilla, the moderator, “some famous Colorado brownies.” |
| Then Cruz says the budget deal is symptomatic of what’s wrong with Washington. Then he calls for raising the retirement age for social security and privatizing a portion of it for younger workers. | Then Cruz says the budget deal is symptomatic of what’s wrong with Washington. Then he calls for raising the retirement age for social security and privatizing a portion of it for younger workers. |
| Huckabee is going to have the last word before break. “The government has no business stealing more from people who have paid this in,” he says. | Huckabee is going to have the last word before break. “The government has no business stealing more from people who have paid this in,” he says. |
| Among these Republicans, by reputation budget hawks, which has dared to take a hint of a swing at entitlements? Christie is known for talking tough on entitlements. IF that’s tough... | Among these Republicans, by reputation budget hawks, which has dared to take a hint of a swing at entitlements? Christie is known for talking tough on entitlements. IF that’s tough... |
| 12.52am GMT | |
| 00:52 | |
| Christie finally gets to speak. He gets a question about his pitch to raise the retirement age for social security and cutting benefits for some well-off seniors. | Christie finally gets to speak. He gets a question about his pitch to raise the retirement age for social security and cutting benefits for some well-off seniors. |
| Christie turns to the camera. “The government has lied to you and they have stolen from you.” He says social security faces insolvency in 7-8 years. He says too much federal spending -- 70%-- is on entitlements and debt servicing. | Christie turns to the camera. “The government has lied to you and they have stolen from you.” He says social security faces insolvency in 7-8 years. He says too much federal spending -- 70%-- is on entitlements and debt servicing. |
| Then he attacks Clinton, the only one really to do so by name. “If someone’s already stolen money from you, are you going to give them more?” | Then he attacks Clinton, the only one really to do so by name. “If someone’s already stolen money from you, are you going to give them more?” |
| Lots of candidates on stage tonight. 10. And not all have spoken yet. After 50 minutes. | Lots of candidates on stage tonight. 10. And not all have spoken yet. After 50 minutes. |
| Finally, Number 10. He says that entitlements amount to stealing from paychecks. What is this payroll tax. “It’s like a 400 pound man saying, I’m going to go on a diet, but I’m going to eat a sack of Krispy Kremes before I do”. | Finally, Number 10. He says that entitlements amount to stealing from paychecks. What is this payroll tax. “It’s like a 400 pound man saying, I’m going to go on a diet, but I’m going to eat a sack of Krispy Kremes before I do”. |
| Krispy Kremes are donuts. The World Series is 0-0 in the bottom of the third. | Krispy Kremes are donuts. The World Series is 0-0 in the bottom of the third. |
| 12.52am GMT | |
| 00:52 | |
| Jana Kasperkevic examines Fiorina’s corporate record: | Jana Kasperkevic examines Fiorina’s corporate record: |
| Hmmm, was Fiorina good for HP? #Gopdebate "stock market was not kind to you" https://t.co/KMiYDhiEo8 | Hmmm, was Fiorina good for HP? #Gopdebate "stock market was not kind to you" https://t.co/KMiYDhiEo8 |
| More on Fiorina #gopdebate https://t.co/ODTDxeJCU0 pic.twitter.com/LzEuNGRIfZ | More on Fiorina #gopdebate https://t.co/ODTDxeJCU0 pic.twitter.com/LzEuNGRIfZ |
| 12.50am GMT | |
| 00:50 | |
| Dominic Rushe | Dominic Rushe |
| Earlier, Carly Fiorina was questioned about her boast that billionaire venture capitalist Tom Perkins was a supporter. He has some interesting views on democracy, notes Dominic Rushe. | Earlier, Carly Fiorina was questioned about her boast that billionaire venture capitalist Tom Perkins was a supporter. He has some interesting views on democracy, notes Dominic Rushe. |
| “The Tom Perkins system is: You don’t get to vote unless you pay a dollar of taxes,” Perkins said last year. | “The Tom Perkins system is: You don’t get to vote unless you pay a dollar of taxes,” Perkins said last year. |
| “But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?” | “But what I really think is, it should be like a corporation. You pay a million dollars in taxes, you get a million votes. How’s that?” |
| 12.49am GMT | |
| 00:49 | |
| Paul is asked why he opposes the budget deal. Paul says it’s taking money from entitlements to spend on the military and domestic spending. | Paul is asked why he opposes the budget deal. Paul says it’s taking money from entitlements to spend on the military and domestic spending. |
| He says that the debt limit “should be leveraged to try to reform government.” | He says that the debt limit “should be leveraged to try to reform government.” |
| “We should use the debt ceiling to force upon them budget reform,” he says. | “We should use the debt ceiling to force upon them budget reform,” he says. |
| 12.47am GMT | |
| 00:47 | |
| Cruz is asked about his opposition to the budget deal. | Cruz is asked about his opposition to the budget deal. |
| Cruz says, your questions stink, and they indicate why the American people do not trust the media. | Cruz says, your questions stink, and they indicate why the American people do not trust the media. |
| Applause line. | Applause line. |
| Then Cruz pops off with a rather brilliant series of caricatures of the questions so far for various candidates. | Then Cruz pops off with a rather brilliant series of caricatures of the questions so far for various candidates. |
| He says in contrast, the Democrats were asked “which of you is more handsome and wise?” | He says in contrast, the Democrats were asked “which of you is more handsome and wise?” |
| Cruz says Republicans are better than Democrats. | Cruz says Republicans are better than Democrats. |
| Why does CNBC hate America? https://t.co/YoJngYVUk8 | Why does CNBC hate America? https://t.co/YoJngYVUk8 |
| Updated | |
| at 12.55am GMT | |
| 12.46am GMT | |
| 00:46 | |
| Jeb Bush has on his debating boots, it seems: | Jeb Bush has on his debating boots, it seems: |
| Got my debating boots on! #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/NdMyEmkT42 | Got my debating boots on! #GOPDebate pic.twitter.com/NdMyEmkT42 |
| 12.43am GMT | |
| 00:43 | |
| Fiorina takes a question about how terribly Hewlett-Packard stock did during her tenure as CEO. Why should she be hired now? | Fiorina takes a question about how terribly Hewlett-Packard stock did during her tenure as CEO. Why should she be hired now? |
| Fiorina rolls out her usual defense, about how badly the NASDAQ did while she was running HP. Something tells us that old argument is not going to perform well, this tenth or twelfth time she’s tried it. | Fiorina rolls out her usual defense, about how badly the NASDAQ did while she was running HP. Something tells us that old argument is not going to perform well, this tenth or twelfth time she’s tried it. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.46am GMT | |
| 12.41am GMT | |
| 00:41 | |
| Bush is asked about troubles with his campaign. He kind of rolls into a boring laundry list of statistics about the country’s economic challenges. | Bush is asked about troubles with his campaign. He kind of rolls into a boring laundry list of statistics about the country’s economic challenges. |
| He tries to hit applause lines but the crowd does not seem to be with him. | He tries to hit applause lines but the crowd does not seem to be with him. |
| Sort of? https://t.co/aGVkQtvqra | Sort of? https://t.co/aGVkQtvqra |
| Updated | |
| at 12.45am GMT | |
| 12.41am GMT | |
| 00:41 | |
| Dominic Rushe | Dominic Rushe |
| First blood to John Kasich in what was a fairly substantial exchange on taxes, adds US business editor Dominic Rushe. | First blood to John Kasich in what was a fairly substantial exchange on taxes, adds US business editor Dominic Rushe. |
| Enough to make Donald Trump go for his throat, so it must have worked. Kasich has been very strong on the - cough - somewhat odd tax plans of the candidates, especially Trump and Ben Carson. | Enough to make Donald Trump go for his throat, so it must have worked. Kasich has been very strong on the - cough - somewhat odd tax plans of the candidates, especially Trump and Ben Carson. |
| Carson’s plan seems to be something to do with a 10% tithe, although tonight that has swollen to 15%. As moderator Betty Quick said such a scheme would require a 40% cut in government spending: “I’ve done the math.” | Carson’s plan seems to be something to do with a 10% tithe, although tonight that has swollen to 15%. As moderator Betty Quick said such a scheme would require a 40% cut in government spending: “I’ve done the math.” |
| Carson was very unconvincing. It’s not enough, Kasich said, to say: “Why don’t we just give chicken in every pot” or say we “are just going to be great.” | Carson was very unconvincing. It’s not enough, Kasich said, to say: “Why don’t we just give chicken in every pot” or say we “are just going to be great.” |
| 12.41am GMT | |
| 00:41 | |
| Rubio says a Florida Sun-Sentinel editorial hitting out at him for missing Senate votes was unfair. He lists other candidates - Kerry, Obama - who missed as many votes but got the paper’s endorsement, and attacks the “mainstream media” for bias. | Rubio says a Florida Sun-Sentinel editorial hitting out at him for missing Senate votes was unfair. He lists other candidates - Kerry, Obama - who missed as many votes but got the paper’s endorsement, and attacks the “mainstream media” for bias. |
| Applause for Rubio. | Applause for Rubio. |
| Bush jumps in to hit Rubio on his absenteeism. “Marco, when you signed up for this” - in the Senate - “what is it, like a French work week?” | Bush jumps in to hit Rubio on his absenteeism. “Marco, when you signed up for this” - in the Senate - “what is it, like a French work week?” |
| Rubio: “It’s interesting, in the last six weeks I listened to Jeb, saying that he was going to model his campaign after John McCain.” McCain missed a lot of votes, Rubio says. Bush did not have a problem with it then. | Rubio: “It’s interesting, in the last six weeks I listened to Jeb, saying that he was going to model his campaign after John McCain.” McCain missed a lot of votes, Rubio says. Bush did not have a problem with it then. |
| More applause for Rubio. None for Bush. | More applause for Rubio. None for Bush. |
| The first real Rubio-on-Bush fireworks. | The first real Rubio-on-Bush fireworks. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.42am GMT | |
| 12.40am GMT | |
| 00:40 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund: | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund: |
| John Kasich’s appeal in this debate – “Folks, we gotta wake up!” – seems geared to both independents and to the Republican establishment. His direct message here might as well be, “Let’s cut the BS”: defending Medicare and social security; slamming Ben Carson’s fantasy tithing tax; slamming Trump’s vague calls for greatness. | John Kasich’s appeal in this debate – “Folks, we gotta wake up!” – seems geared to both independents and to the Republican establishment. His direct message here might as well be, “Let’s cut the BS”: defending Medicare and social security; slamming Ben Carson’s fantasy tithing tax; slamming Trump’s vague calls for greatness. |
| Kasich is taking the role of the pragmatic conservative that Jeb Bush can’t avoid being, but he’s doing it with an edge and energy that Bush constitutionally lacks and has been skittering away from as he tries to portray himself as a radical conservative during the primary. | Kasich is taking the role of the pragmatic conservative that Jeb Bush can’t avoid being, but he’s doing it with an edge and energy that Bush constitutionally lacks and has been skittering away from as he tries to portray himself as a radical conservative during the primary. |
| There’s a virtue in polling toward the bottom, as Kasich is: it gives him the luxury of making being a conventional conservative sound like an edgy outlier position. | There’s a virtue in polling toward the bottom, as Kasich is: it gives him the luxury of making being a conventional conservative sound like an edgy outlier position. |
| 12.38am GMT | |
| 00:38 | |
| Adam Gabbatt | Adam Gabbatt |
| Mike Huckabee couldn’t think of any weaknesses he had right now, Adam Gabbatt notes. | Mike Huckabee couldn’t think of any weaknesses he had right now, Adam Gabbatt notes. |
| He has a pretty glaring one though: his habit of doing and saying wrong things: | He has a pretty glaring one though: his habit of doing and saying wrong things: |
| a) When he threw his support behind Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refused to marry gay couples. | a) When he threw his support behind Kim Davis, the Kentucky county clerk who refused to marry gay couples. |
| b) The time he said: “I trust @BernieSanders with my tax dollars like I trust a North Korean chef with my labrador! #DemDebate”. | b) The time he said: “I trust @BernieSanders with my tax dollars like I trust a North Korean chef with my labrador! #DemDebate”. |
| c) The time he said homosexuality was part of a lifestyle, like drinking and swearing. | c) The time he said homosexuality was part of a lifestyle, like drinking and swearing. |
| d) When he kept claiming Barack Obama grew up in Kenya. | d) When he kept claiming Barack Obama grew up in Kenya. |
| e) When he said, following the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, that the removal of God from schools meant they had become “a place of carnage”. | e) When he said, following the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting, that the removal of God from schools meant they had become “a place of carnage”. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.38am GMT | |
| 12.37am GMT | |
| 00:37 | |
| Rubio takes a question about all the votes he’s skipping. “Why don’t you slow down?” | Rubio takes a question about all the votes he’s skipping. “Why don’t you slow down?” |
| “That’s an interesting question,” he says. “That’s exactly what the Republican establishment says too. Why don’t you wait in line. | “That’s an interesting question,” he says. “That’s exactly what the Republican establishment says too. Why don’t you wait in line. |
| “Wait for what?” | “Wait for what?” |
| 12.36am GMT | |
| 00:36 | |
| Fiorina is up now. She says Washington has been talking about tax reform forever but never pulls it off. She says the 70,000 page tax code could be reduced to three pages. | Fiorina is up now. She says Washington has been talking about tax reform forever but never pulls it off. She says the 70,000 page tax code could be reduced to three pages. |
| She makes a persuasive argument about the ability of the rich to hire an “army of lawyers” to decipher a more complex code. So a complex code equates with cheating, in her view. | She makes a persuasive argument about the ability of the rich to hire an “army of lawyers” to decipher a more complex code. So a complex code equates with cheating, in her view. |
| 12.35am GMT | |
| 00:35 | |
| Carson jumps in. He rejoins the debate with Quick about whether a flat tax of 15% would fund the government. He presents some sketchy back-of the envelope math based on the ability to multiply 18 by .15. | Carson jumps in. He rejoins the debate with Quick about whether a flat tax of 15% would fund the government. He presents some sketchy back-of the envelope math based on the ability to multiply 18 by .15. |
| Cruz is not going for a 0% flat tax – it’s 10%. It adds up, he says. He claims the CBO has scored “every one of our plans.” | Cruz is not going for a 0% flat tax – it’s 10%. It adds up, he says. He claims the CBO has scored “every one of our plans.” |
| What plans? Most candidates have not floated specific proposals on most tax policy. Cruz says he just released his. | What plans? Most candidates have not floated specific proposals on most tax policy. Cruz says he just released his. |
| 12.32am GMT | |
| 00:32 | |
| Trump smashes Kasich. He says that he got lucky in Ohio because of fracking, that he was on the board of Lehman Brothers, and that his poll numbers have tanked “and that’s why he’s on the end.” | Trump smashes Kasich. He says that he got lucky in Ohio because of fracking, that he was on the board of Lehman Brothers, and that his poll numbers have tanked “and that’s why he’s on the end.” |
| Kasich says that yes, Ohio has an energy industry, and that he’s “proud” of his time as a banker. | Kasich says that yes, Ohio has an energy industry, and that he’s “proud” of his time as a banker. |
| 12.31am GMT | |
| 00:31 | |
| Kasich pipes up. He says he’s actually balanced the federal budget. True, as the former chair of the budget committee. | Kasich pipes up. He says he’s actually balanced the federal budget. True, as the former chair of the budget committee. |
| He accuses his opponents of “fantasy tax schemes.” | He accuses his opponents of “fantasy tax schemes.” |
| This stuff is fantasy, just like getting rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Come on, you don’t scare senior citizens like that. | This stuff is fantasy, just like getting rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Come on, you don’t scare senior citizens like that. |
| Then he has a “mad as hell” moment. | Then he has a “mad as hell” moment. |
| You have a 10% tithe and that’s how you fix government? Or that we’re just going to be great? Or that we are going to move 10m people out of the country?! | You have a 10% tithe and that’s how you fix government? Or that we’re just going to be great? Or that we are going to move 10m people out of the country?! |
| Folks, we’ve got to wake up! We got to elect someone who knows how to do the job! | Folks, we’ve got to wake up! We got to elect someone who knows how to do the job! |
| Updated | |
| at 12.34am GMT | |
| 12.28am GMT | |
| 00:28 | |
| Carson takes a question about his flat tax, of 10-15% (he hasn’t said how much). | Carson takes a question about his flat tax, of 10-15% (he hasn’t said how much). |
| How did he come up with that number? | How did he come up with that number? |
| Carson says he did not say the rate would be 10%, it would be 15%. And he suggests getting rid of all the deductions and loopholes, and doing “some strategic cutting” in federal agencies. | Carson says he did not say the rate would be 10%, it would be 15%. And he suggests getting rid of all the deductions and loopholes, and doing “some strategic cutting” in federal agencies. |
| Carson’s magic number is 645. The number of federal agencies. He says the number over and over. | Carson’s magic number is 645. The number of federal agencies. He says the number over and over. |
| Quick says you’d have to cut government by 40% to make his tax plan work. Carson says that’s not true. Quick says it is. Carson says it’s not. Now that’s a debate! | Quick says you’d have to cut government by 40% to make his tax plan work. Carson says that’s not true. Quick says it is. Carson says it’s not. Now that’s a debate! |
| Updated | |
| at 12.29am GMT | |
| 12.27am GMT | |
| 00:27 | |
| Q for Trump. You’ve made many big promises. Let’s be honest. Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? | Q for Trump. You’ve made many big promises. Let’s be honest. Is this a comic book version of a presidential campaign? |
| Trump: No, and that’s not a nice way to ask that question. He says his plan brings tax rates down to 15%, which is true for most middle-income households, though his top tax bracket is 35%. | Trump: No, and that’s not a nice way to ask that question. He says his plan brings tax rates down to 15%, which is true for most middle-income households, though his top tax bracket is 35%. |
| Then Trump riffs on building a wall, “and Mexico is gonna pay.” | Then Trump riffs on building a wall, “and Mexico is gonna pay.” |
| Harwood cuts off Trump. He says Trump cannot cut taxes as much as he wants without blowing up the deficit. | Harwood cuts off Trump. He says Trump cannot cut taxes as much as he wants without blowing up the deficit. |
| Bush jumps in. Quick jumps in. | Bush jumps in. Quick jumps in. |
| This thing is a disorganized mess so far. | This thing is a disorganized mess so far. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.28am GMT | |
| 12.24am GMT | |
| 00:24 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, deep in the American heartland/swing state of Florida: | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, deep in the American heartland/swing state of Florida: |
| This CNBC intro rephrased: “Which one of these Republicans must we elect to rescue the United States?” | This CNBC intro rephrased: “Which one of these Republicans must we elect to rescue the United States?” |
| 12.24am GMT | |
| 00:24 | |
| First question: What’s your biggest weakness? | First question: What’s your biggest weakness? |
| Kasich goes first. He ignores the question and says he fears the party will nominate someone not up for the job. He mentions Carson’s proposal to end Medicare and Trump’s to deport undocumented migrants. Not realistic, he says. | Kasich goes first. He ignores the question and says he fears the party will nominate someone not up for the job. He mentions Carson’s proposal to end Medicare and Trump’s to deport undocumented migrants. Not realistic, he says. |
| Huckabee says he doesn’t have a weakness. But if he did it might be that he plays by the rules. Which Washington does not. | Huckabee says he doesn’t have a weakness. But if he did it might be that he plays by the rules. Which Washington does not. |
| Bush says he is by nature impatient. But also: “I can’t fake anger... I just don’t believe that this country’s days are going to be deeply, you know, going down.” | Bush says he is by nature impatient. But also: “I can’t fake anger... I just don’t believe that this country’s days are going to be deeply, you know, going down.” |
| Rubio: “I’m not sure it’s a weakness, but... I believe there’s a sense in this country that our best days lay behind us.” | Rubio: “I’m not sure it’s a weakness, but... I believe there’s a sense in this country that our best days lay behind us.” |
| Trump: I’m too trusting. And when they let me down, if they let me down, I never forgive. | Trump: I’m too trusting. And when they let me down, if they let me down, I never forgive. |
| Carson: Probably in terms of applying for a job of president ... would be, not really seeing myself in that position, until hundreds of thousands of people told me to do it. | Carson: Probably in terms of applying for a job of president ... would be, not really seeing myself in that position, until hundreds of thousands of people told me to do it. |
| Fiorina: Well gee, after the last debate I was told that I didn’t smile enough. [BIG SMILE]. OK that’s funny. | Fiorina: Well gee, after the last debate I was told that I didn’t smile enough. [BIG SMILE]. OK that’s funny. |
| Cruz: “I’m too agreeable, easygoing.” Ha. “You know I feel my biggest weakness is exactly the opposite. I’m a fighter... If you want someone to grab a beer with, I might not be the one. But if you want a ride home, I will get it done.” | Cruz: “I’m too agreeable, easygoing.” Ha. “You know I feel my biggest weakness is exactly the opposite. I’m a fighter... If you want someone to grab a beer with, I might not be the one. But if you want a ride home, I will get it done.” |
| Christie: “I don’t see a lot of weakness on the stage, quite frankly. I see weakness on the Democratic stage. I see a socialist, and isolationist and a pessimist. And I’m not sure which is which.” | Christie: “I don’t see a lot of weakness on the stage, quite frankly. I see weakness on the Democratic stage. I see a socialist, and isolationist and a pessimist. And I’m not sure which is which.” |
| Paul: The budget deal this week stinks ... I will begin tomorrow to filibuster it. | Paul: The budget deal this week stinks ... I will begin tomorrow to filibuster it. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.58am GMT | |
| 12.19am GMT | |
| 00:19 | |
| 12.17am GMT | |
| 00:17 | |
| It’s started. | It’s started. |
| 12.13am GMT | |
| 00:13 | |
| The candidates are taking the stage. Carson has just emerged. He joines Fiorina, Cruz and Christie. And there’s the Donald. | The candidates are taking the stage. Carson has just emerged. He joines Fiorina, Cruz and Christie. And there’s the Donald. |
| Who’s going to make the wildest promise on cutting taxes? | Who’s going to make the wildest promise on cutting taxes? |
| So excited to hear about Ted Cruz’s 0% top rate plan. | So excited to hear about Ted Cruz’s 0% top rate plan. |
| Cruz has said he favors a flat tax at an unspecified level. For a detailed guide to each candidate’s tax plan so far, such as they are, visit the Tax Foundation web site. | Cruz has said he favors a flat tax at an unspecified level. For a detailed guide to each candidate’s tax plan so far, such as they are, visit the Tax Foundation web site. |
| 12.11am GMT | |
| 00:11 | |
| Ben Jacobs | Ben Jacobs |
| Before we move on to the main event, Ben Jacobs in Boulder has been talking to Bobby Jindal. The Louisiana governor won’t commit to supporting the Republican nominee to succeed him in his state’s gubernatorial runoff on 21 November. | Before we move on to the main event, Ben Jacobs in Boulder has been talking to Bobby Jindal. The Louisiana governor won’t commit to supporting the Republican nominee to succeed him in his state’s gubernatorial runoff on 21 November. |
| In last week’s first round of voting, Senator David Vitter, a Republican, finished second behind Democratic legislator John Bel Edwards in the state’s “jungle primary.” In Louisiana, all candidates compete in one primary and then the top two then advance to a general election. Vitter, despite being the favorite, just managed to barely edge out two other Republican candidates. | In last week’s first round of voting, Senator David Vitter, a Republican, finished second behind Democratic legislator John Bel Edwards in the state’s “jungle primary.” In Louisiana, all candidates compete in one primary and then the top two then advance to a general election. Vitter, despite being the favorite, just managed to barely edge out two other Republican candidates. |
| However, Jindal, who long been engaged in a feud with Vitter, refused to endorse the Republican standard bearer to succeed him. When asked by the Guardian if he would campaign on Vitter’s behalf, Jindal said: “I respect the judgment of the voters in Louisiana. I think the press makes too much of watching voters try to endorse each other and look forward to seeing which candidate will commit to policies that will continue the economic development we’ve done in Louisiana.” When pressed about whether he would even endorse Vitter, he said: “We haven’t made that decision yet; that doesn’t mean we won’t but we haven’t made that decision.” | However, Jindal, who long been engaged in a feud with Vitter, refused to endorse the Republican standard bearer to succeed him. When asked by the Guardian if he would campaign on Vitter’s behalf, Jindal said: “I respect the judgment of the voters in Louisiana. I think the press makes too much of watching voters try to endorse each other and look forward to seeing which candidate will commit to policies that will continue the economic development we’ve done in Louisiana.” When pressed about whether he would even endorse Vitter, he said: “We haven’t made that decision yet; that doesn’t mean we won’t but we haven’t made that decision.” |
| Politics in Louisiana are complicated by the fact Jindal has an approval rating of only 32% and is deeply disliked by many voters. Vitter has his own issues. He was embroiled in a prostitution scandal several years ago and a private investigator employed by his campaign was arrested last week for spying a county sheriff. | Politics in Louisiana are complicated by the fact Jindal has an approval rating of only 32% and is deeply disliked by many voters. Vitter has his own issues. He was embroiled in a prostitution scandal several years ago and a private investigator employed by his campaign was arrested last week for spying a county sheriff. |
| Updated | |
| at 12.12am GMT | |
| 12.10am GMT | |
| 00:10 | |
| Mitt Romney, the 2012 nominee, gives Lindsey Graham an upvote. | Mitt Romney, the 2012 nominee, gives Lindsey Graham an upvote. |
| After hearing @LindseyGrahamSC talk foreign policy tonight, it's clear he belongs on the big stage. | After hearing @LindseyGrahamSC talk foreign policy tonight, it's clear he belongs on the big stage. |
| Graham does seem to be the subject of some not insubstantial buzz following the undercard the debate. Reminder: he said: “Make me commander in chief and this crap stops.” | Graham does seem to be the subject of some not insubstantial buzz following the undercard the debate. Reminder: he said: “Make me commander in chief and this crap stops.” |
| Updated | |
| at 12.11am GMT | |
| 12.07am GMT | |
| 00:07 | |
| It’s past 8pm ET, starting time, but the only Republican onstage is RNC chairman Reince Priebus. | It’s past 8pm ET, starting time, but the only Republican onstage is RNC chairman Reince Priebus. |
| We invite you, while we wait, to check in on our live blog coverage of game two of the World Series between the Kansas City Royals and the New York Mets, where someone has just sung the national anthem. | We invite you, while we wait, to check in on our live blog coverage of game two of the World Series between the Kansas City Royals and the New York Mets, where someone has just sung the national anthem. |
| But don’t get lost over there! Come on back to Colorado in a few minutes. It’s the presidency at stake, here. | But don’t get lost over there! Come on back to Colorado in a few minutes. It’s the presidency at stake, here. |
| 12.01am GMT | |
| 00:01 | |
| Speaking of Ben Carson, here he is testing out his lectern earlier: | Speaking of Ben Carson, here he is testing out his lectern earlier: |
| On the #GOPDebate stage in Colorado -- anticipating a great night for We the People! #BC2DC16 https://t.co/nIZ5hg1Ivj | On the #GOPDebate stage in Colorado -- anticipating a great night for We the People! #BC2DC16 https://t.co/nIZ5hg1Ivj |
| And here’s Ben Jacobs with a peek at Carson’s debate strategy this evening: | And here’s Ben Jacobs with a peek at Carson’s debate strategy this evening: |
| Ben Carson says of tonight's debate "My strategy will be to be me." | Ben Carson says of tonight's debate "My strategy will be to be me." |
| 11.59pm GMT | |
| 23:59 | |
| Cher: not a Ben Carson fan, evidently. | Cher: not a Ben Carson fan, evidently. |
| WANTED,LEADER Most Dynamic Country,Most Diverse Citizenry,In Most Dangerous Time Since WW2.Qualifications, pediatrician,Xtian,soft spoken😳 | WANTED,LEADER Most Dynamic Country,Most Diverse Citizenry,In Most Dangerous Time Since WW2.Qualifications, pediatrician,Xtian,soft spoken😳 |
| 11.58pm GMT | |
| 23:58 | |
| Further reaction to the undercard: The entire country, to hear Google tell it, was all, Who is this Lindsey Graham!?! | Further reaction to the undercard: The entire country, to hear Google tell it, was all, Who is this Lindsey Graham!?! |
| Except Delaware, which was all, whoa, George Pataki, hello: | Except Delaware, which was all, whoa, George Pataki, hello: |
| The geographic winner of the early #GOPDebate https://t.co/rBOqAKfn5Z pic.twitter.com/4USDVd7tM1 | The geographic winner of the early #GOPDebate https://t.co/rBOqAKfn5Z pic.twitter.com/4USDVd7tM1 |
| 11.53pm GMT | |
| 23:53 | |
| Recreational marijuana use is legal in Colorado – but will CNBC take the opportunity to grill the candidates? Jeb Bush copped (again) to pot use as a kid in the last debate, apologizing to his mother for announcing it on national TV. | Recreational marijuana use is legal in Colorado – but will CNBC take the opportunity to grill the candidates? Jeb Bush copped (again) to pot use as a kid in the last debate, apologizing to his mother for announcing it on national TV. |
| It’s not just a lifestyle issue for Colorado – it’s an economic issue. Republicans must address whether the next president should continue to let states do as they please with marijuana laws, as Obama has done. | It’s not just a lifestyle issue for Colorado – it’s an economic issue. Republicans must address whether the next president should continue to let states do as they please with marijuana laws, as Obama has done. |
| It’s a point of contention among Republican presidential aspirants, and one that could come up again tonight. | It’s a point of contention among Republican presidential aspirants, and one that could come up again tonight. |
| Updated | |
| at 11.55pm GMT | |
| 11.49pm GMT | |
| 23:49 | |
| The top-tier debate | The top-tier debate |
| Welcome back for our coverage of the big show, the third Republican presidential debate. | Welcome back for our coverage of the big show, the third Republican presidential debate. |
| Donald Trump has been invited on national television to talk about money. Ben Carson takes the stage as a freshly minted frontrunner. Jeb Bush seems on the verge of fumbling the handoff of the White House from bro and pops. Marco Rubio was born to talk. | Donald Trump has been invited on national television to talk about money. Ben Carson takes the stage as a freshly minted frontrunner. Jeb Bush seems on the verge of fumbling the handoff of the White House from bro and pops. Marco Rubio was born to talk. |
| Will Trump go after Carson for surpassing him in his beloved polls? Will Carson reveal a heretofore hidden depth on economic policy? Will Jeb Bush give America a reason to vote for him that does not have to do with his last name? (Some reason!, some say.) | Will Trump go after Carson for surpassing him in his beloved polls? Will Carson reveal a heretofore hidden depth on economic policy? Will Jeb Bush give America a reason to vote for him that does not have to do with his last name? (Some reason!, some say.) |
| Ted Cruz raised $12m last quarter. Carly Fiorina’s whole campaign strategy seems to be to kick ass in debates. John Kasich seems angry about something. Rand Paul and Chris Christie are just glad to be invited. And Mike Huckabee used to be the governor of Arkansas. | Ted Cruz raised $12m last quarter. Carly Fiorina’s whole campaign strategy seems to be to kick ass in debates. John Kasich seems angry about something. Rand Paul and Chris Christie are just glad to be invited. And Mike Huckabee used to be the governor of Arkansas. |
| The main event is about to start. It’s only two hours this time, and it’s going to go fast. So stay tuned and please let us know who’s winning – and who’s slipping – in the comments ... | The main event is about to start. It’s only two hours this time, and it’s going to go fast. So stay tuned and please let us know who’s winning – and who’s slipping – in the comments ... |
| Updated | |
| at 11.50pm GMT | |
| 11.37pm GMT | |
| 23:37 | |
| 11.27pm GMT | |
| 23:27 | |
| The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs is just one cowboy hat away from asking Rick Santorum the question that will settle this thing. | The Guardian’s Ben Jacobs is just one cowboy hat away from asking Rick Santorum the question that will settle this thing. |
| 11.23pm GMT | |
| 23:23 | |
| Guardian US business editor Dominic Rushe branches out into hair criticism: | Guardian US business editor Dominic Rushe branches out into hair criticism: |
| Oh your hair is beautiful. Tonight. Atomic. pic.twitter.com/to4Hj7iKOW | Oh your hair is beautiful. Tonight. Atomic. pic.twitter.com/to4Hj7iKOW |
| @zackwhittaker come on. It's never looked so good. We have a winner. | @zackwhittaker come on. It's never looked so good. We have a winner. |
| 11.22pm GMT | |
| 23:22 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live from Tampa, Florida. | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live from Tampa, Florida. |
| That was a really fun bit during the Kiddie Table debate, when Lindsey Graham joked about being a Fox News instead of CNBC watcher. It’s just a little reminder that CNBC is the Marxist network that aired Rick Santelli’s 1% whine about taxation and moochers that the conservative astroturf group FreedomWorks used to launch the Tea Party. | That was a really fun bit during the Kiddie Table debate, when Lindsey Graham joked about being a Fox News instead of CNBC watcher. It’s just a little reminder that CNBC is the Marxist network that aired Rick Santelli’s 1% whine about taxation and moochers that the conservative astroturf group FreedomWorks used to launch the Tea Party. |
| 11.20pm GMT | |
| 23:20 | |
| Undercard debate – the verdict | Undercard debate – the verdict |
| Ben Jacobs | Ben Jacobs |
| The undercard debate in Boulder featured a solid, if unexciting, exchange between the four second tier Republican candidates participating, reports Ben Jacobs in Boulder. | The undercard debate in Boulder featured a solid, if unexciting, exchange between the four second tier Republican candidates participating, reports Ben Jacobs in Boulder. |
| South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, former New York governor George Pataki and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum spent an hour discussing economic issues with occasional moments of feistiness and a near constant stream of one-liners from Graham. | South Carolina senator Lindsey Graham, Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, former New York governor George Pataki and former Pennsylvania senator Rick Santorum spent an hour discussing economic issues with occasional moments of feistiness and a near constant stream of one-liners from Graham. |
| While there was a spirited exchange on tax policy between Jindal and Santorum over the relative importance of balancing the budget and simply cutting taxes in reducing the size of government and George Pataki echoed former Democratic candidate Jim Webb in complaining his lack of speaking time, the real star of the night was Graham. | While there was a spirited exchange on tax policy between Jindal and Santorum over the relative importance of balancing the budget and simply cutting taxes in reducing the size of government and George Pataki echoed former Democratic candidate Jim Webb in complaining his lack of speaking time, the real star of the night was Graham. |
| The South Carolina Republican is well known for his sense of humor and seemed to cracked jokes nonstop during the debate. Graham mocked Senate colleague Bernie Sanders, saying “he went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon and I don’t think he ever came back” while also proclaiming: “I know beer.” | The South Carolina Republican is well known for his sense of humor and seemed to cracked jokes nonstop during the debate. Graham mocked Senate colleague Bernie Sanders, saying “he went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon and I don’t think he ever came back” while also proclaiming: “I know beer.” |
| The question is whether Graham will get any mileage out of the debate. After all, voters are electing a commander in chief and not a comedian in chief. | The question is whether Graham will get any mileage out of the debate. After all, voters are electing a commander in chief and not a comedian in chief. |
| 11.19pm GMT | |
| 23:19 | |
| We’ve only got 45 minutes till the main debate. | We’ve only got 45 minutes till the main debate. |
| Will the Republicans hit Hillary Clinton for this zany story about running around in a driveway with Bill and Chelsea in a frustrated attempt to crack a coconut? | Will the Republicans hit Hillary Clinton for this zany story about running around in a driveway with Bill and Chelsea in a frustrated attempt to crack a coconut? |
| In the Democratic frontrunner’s defense, that was probably before YouTube, and so before about a thousand helpful videos like this one. | In the Democratic frontrunner’s defense, that was probably before YouTube, and so before about a thousand helpful videos like this one. |
| 11.14pm GMT | |
| 23:14 | |
| Adam Gabbatt | Adam Gabbatt |
| While the kids wave their arms and squabble around one of the grown-ups, Jeb Bush, is tweeting, reports Adam Gabbatt. He’s made a video! | While the kids wave their arms and squabble around one of the grown-ups, Jeb Bush, is tweeting, reports Adam Gabbatt. He’s made a video! |
| This is why I’m running for president. #GOPDebate https://t.co/Nhw3OFX3e7 | This is why I’m running for president. #GOPDebate https://t.co/Nhw3OFX3e7 |
| Visually it’s beautiful. There’s a sunrise! Someone welding something. A jazzy shot in the window of a car’s rear view mirror. | Visually it’s beautiful. There’s a sunrise! Someone welding something. A jazzy shot in the window of a car’s rear view mirror. |
| Unfortunately for Jeb! the images don’t quite detract from what he is saying, which is ... strange. | Unfortunately for Jeb! the images don’t quite detract from what he is saying, which is ... strange. |
| “There’s no way that Barack Obama or the progessive liberals in Washington can take away from the bigness of this place,” he says. He is referring to America. | “There’s no way that Barack Obama or the progessive liberals in Washington can take away from the bigness of this place,” he says. He is referring to America. |
| I looked bigness up and apparently it’s a real word. | I looked bigness up and apparently it’s a real word. |
| Anyway while Bush was governor of Florida “we turned the systems upside down that weren’t working”, so suck on that Donald Trump. Suck on that, gravity. | Anyway while Bush was governor of Florida “we turned the systems upside down that weren’t working”, so suck on that Donald Trump. Suck on that, gravity. |
| The video is worth watching for the euphoric backing track alone. Fetch the glow sticks! Enjoy the bigness! | The video is worth watching for the euphoric backing track alone. Fetch the glow sticks! Enjoy the bigness! |
| 11.13pm GMT | |
| 23:13 | |
| It’s a wrap! There goes the first round. Who do you think won? Tell us in the comments. | It’s a wrap! There goes the first round. Who do you think won? Tell us in the comments. |
| 11.11pm GMT | |
| 23:11 | |
| Undercard closing statements | Undercard closing statements |
| Closing statements: | Closing statements: |
| Graham: Somebody said ‘let’s make America great again’. America is great! I will win a war we can’t afford to lose. Support the troops. Make me commander-in-chief! | Graham: Somebody said ‘let’s make America great again’. America is great! I will win a war we can’t afford to lose. Support the troops. Make me commander-in-chief! |
| Pataki: Thanks for the opportunity. I love 10th Amendment (balance of powers). I embrace science. | Pataki: Thanks for the opportunity. I love 10th Amendment (balance of powers). I embrace science. |
| Santorum: I announced bid from factory floor. I come from steel country. I align myself with working men and women. | Santorum: I announced bid from factory floor. I come from steel country. I align myself with working men and women. |
| Jindal: Conservatives, this is our hour. Democrats are insane and incompetent. We’re Christians and Americans. We cannot allow Hillary Clinton to take us further down this path toward socialism. | Jindal: Conservatives, this is our hour. Democrats are insane and incompetent. We’re Christians and Americans. We cannot allow Hillary Clinton to take us further down this path toward socialism. |
| Updated | |
| at 11.13pm GMT | |
| 11.08pm GMT | |
| 23:08 | |
| Now Quick trims them to 20 seconds per answer! Lightning round. Whew. | Now Quick trims them to 20 seconds per answer! Lightning round. Whew. |
| What are your top three apps? | What are your top three apps? |
| Jindal: wastes his time by saying he has a blackberry not an iphone. | Jindal: wastes his time by saying he has a blackberry not an iphone. |
| Santorum: MLB, NHL and Wall Street Journal. | Santorum: MLB, NHL and Wall Street Journal. |
| Pataki: Uber, Twitter | Pataki: Uber, Twitter |
| Graham: The only reason I have an iPhone is because I gave my number to Donald Trump. | Graham: The only reason I have an iPhone is because I gave my number to Donald Trump. |
| Should the day after Super Bowl be a national holiday? | Should the day after Super Bowl be a national holiday? |
| Jindal: Go Saints. I think it’d be a great day to take off. | Jindal: Go Saints. I think it’d be a great day to take off. |
| Santorum: Go Steelers. It is in Pennsylvania already. | Santorum: Go Steelers. It is in Pennsylvania already. |
| Pataki: Go Jets. No, there’s no reason. The Mets are gonna win. | Pataki: Go Jets. No, there’s no reason. The Mets are gonna win. |
| Graham: I think the national holiday would be the day that commander in chief Barack Obama doesn’t have that job. Go Tom Brady. Huh. | Graham: I think the national holiday would be the day that commander in chief Barack Obama doesn’t have that job. Go Tom Brady. Huh. |
| 11.05pm GMT | |
| 23:05 | |
| Google trends is tracking searches for candidates’ names. | Google trends is tracking searches for candidates’ names. |
| Graham is the blue line. The blue line is often higher than the other lines. Graham is the nominee. | Graham is the blue line. The blue line is often higher than the other lines. Graham is the nominee. |
| Looking for realtime @Google search data for the #GOPdebate? You've come to the right place https://t.co/rBOqAKfn5Z pic.twitter.com/elCdE1Wu00 | Looking for realtime @Google search data for the #GOPdebate? You've come to the right place https://t.co/rBOqAKfn5Z pic.twitter.com/elCdE1Wu00 |
| 11.02pm GMT | |
| 23:02 | |
| Commercial! Let’s check in on the hacks: | Commercial! Let’s check in on the hacks: |
| Hacks hacking! Carry on. | Hacks hacking! Carry on. |
| 11.00pm GMT | |
| 23:00 | |
| Graham is now mounting a near-tearful defense of Social Security. “50% of today’s seniors would be in poverty without Social Security,” he says. | Graham is now mounting a near-tearful defense of Social Security. “50% of today’s seniors would be in poverty without Social Security,” he says. |
| “I promise you if you make me your president, I will save social security because I know why it exists,” he says. | “I promise you if you make me your president, I will save social security because I know why it exists,” he says. |
| As for beer policy, he says, he grew up behind a bar. | As for beer policy, he says, he grew up behind a bar. |
| Epperson cuts him off. | Epperson cuts him off. |
| 11.00pm GMT | |
| 23:00 | |
| Dominic Rushe | Dominic Rushe |
| What have we learned from kiddie table economics so far, asks Guardian US business editor Dominic Rushe? | What have we learned from kiddie table economics so far, asks Guardian US business editor Dominic Rushe? |
| Not a lot. Socialism is bad, Obama is bad (and probably a socialist), taxes are bad. Not all Republicans believe climate change is a lie (but the ones who believe it’s true probably won’t get elected). And the arid Boulder weather has done wonders for Rick Santorum’s hair. | Not a lot. Socialism is bad, Obama is bad (and probably a socialist), taxes are bad. Not all Republicans believe climate change is a lie (but the ones who believe it’s true probably won’t get elected). And the arid Boulder weather has done wonders for Rick Santorum’s hair. |
| In terms of economic policy no one has really excelled - let alone broken ahead of the (trailing) pack. | In terms of economic policy no one has really excelled - let alone broken ahead of the (trailing) pack. |
| 10.58pm GMT | |
| 22:58 | |
| Santorum busts out some etymology. | Santorum busts out some etymology. |
| “The word economy comes from the Greek oikonomos which means family,” he says. | “The word economy comes from the Greek oikonomos which means family,” he says. |
| FACT CHECK | FACT CHECK |
| Our dictionary thinks oikonomos means manager of a household and oikos means house. | Our dictionary thinks oikonomos means manager of a household and oikos means house. |
| Did Santorum just blow his last chance at the nomination? | Did Santorum just blow his last chance at the nomination? |
| 10.55pm GMT | |
| 22:55 | |
| Pataki: human-caused climate change 'uncontroverted' | Pataki: human-caused climate change 'uncontroverted' |
| Pataki believes climate change is real and caused by humans. He’s asked about that. | Pataki believes climate change is real and caused by humans. He’s asked about that. |
| “One of the thing that troubles me about the Republican party is that too often we question science that everyone accepts,” he says. Pataki mentions the science behind vaccines and climate change. | “One of the thing that troubles me about the Republican party is that too often we question science that everyone accepts,” he says. Pataki mentions the science behind vaccines and climate change. |
| CO2 emissions trap greenhouse gases, he says. | CO2 emissions trap greenhouse gases, he says. |
| “It does. It’s uncontroverted.” | “It does. It’s uncontroverted.” |
| He actually gets a little applause for that talk, from this presumably Republican crowd. | He actually gets a little applause for that talk, from this presumably Republican crowd. |
| 10.52pm GMT | |
| 22:52 | |
| Beer question! Is it right to have one third of breweries in this country owned by one brewer? Is there a threat to competition in beer? | Beer question! Is it right to have one third of breweries in this country owned by one brewer? Is there a threat to competition in beer? |
| Now that’s a debate question. | Now that’s a debate question. |
| The debate is happening in an arena named for Coors, which is brewed in nearby Golden at the world’s very largest brewery. | The debate is happening in an arena named for Coors, which is brewed in nearby Golden at the world’s very largest brewery. |
| Santorum says he travels far and wide and, believe him, there’s a brewery in like every town. No worries about keeping beer in the USA competitive, he says. | Santorum says he travels far and wide and, believe him, there’s a brewery in like every town. No worries about keeping beer in the USA competitive, he says. |
| Whew. | Whew. |
| Updated | |
| at 10.53pm GMT | |
| 10.47pm GMT | |
| 22:47 | |
| Santorum argues that a failure to protect exports pushed Boeing partly to France. | Santorum argues that a failure to protect exports pushed Boeing partly to France. |
| Santorum seems on tonight? He’s speaking with energy and conviction about protecting American jobs. He’s not going too long, making arguments instead of speeches. Looking to break 2% in Iowa. | Santorum seems on tonight? He’s speaking with energy and conviction about protecting American jobs. He’s not going too long, making arguments instead of speeches. Looking to break 2% in Iowa. |
| Updated | |
| at 10.48pm GMT | |
| 10.46pm GMT | |
| 22:46 | |
| Jeb Lund | Jeb Lund |
| From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live from Tampa: | From Guardian US columnist Jeb Lund, live from Tampa: |
| Perhaps this doesn’t reflect that well on me, but I can think of no more fitting commentary on the Republican Kiddie Table Debate than the fact that I was washing dishes and cleaning the house on domestic autopilot and listening to my TV blaring CNN commentary about the main debate without realizing that there was an actual debate being broadcast at the time. I mean, I DVRd it, but still. | Perhaps this doesn’t reflect that well on me, but I can think of no more fitting commentary on the Republican Kiddie Table Debate than the fact that I was washing dishes and cleaning the house on domestic autopilot and listening to my TV blaring CNN commentary about the main debate without realizing that there was an actual debate being broadcast at the time. I mean, I DVRd it, but still. |
| 10.45pm GMT | |
| 22:45 | |
| Rick Santelli is up. He asks Pataki: “How’re you doing tonight?” | Rick Santelli is up. He asks Pataki: “How’re you doing tonight?” |
| Pataki’s good. | Pataki’s good. |
| Santelli says interest rates should be higher for savers who rely on the growth of their deposits. He (Santelli) is taking issue with the Fed’s hesitancy to raise interest rates. | Santelli says interest rates should be higher for savers who rely on the growth of their deposits. He (Santelli) is taking issue with the Fed’s hesitancy to raise interest rates. |
| Pataki does not really engage on the monetary policy question. He does say the Fed screwed up. Then: “No question Barack Obama faced an economic disaster in 2009,” Pataki said, but he made it worse with Obamacare. | Pataki does not really engage on the monetary policy question. He does say the Fed screwed up. Then: “No question Barack Obama faced an economic disaster in 2009,” Pataki said, but he made it worse with Obamacare. |
| Updated | |
| at 10.48pm GMT | |
| 10.42pm GMT | |
| 22:42 | |
| Soundnibbles! Indeed. It’s as if the moderators are afraid of letting the candidates speak. | Soundnibbles! Indeed. It’s as if the moderators are afraid of letting the candidates speak. |
| Or maybe they just have an eye on the ratings, and realize that churn plays better than drone. | Or maybe they just have an eye on the ratings, and realize that churn plays better than drone. |
| Is it me or has the amount of time candidates are given to answer questions in the GOP JV debate just hit a new all-time low? Soundnibbles. | Is it me or has the amount of time candidates are given to answer questions in the GOP JV debate just hit a new all-time low? Soundnibbles. |
| Or maybe this is just the bracing fast pace that money moves at. Pew pew pew ... | Or maybe this is just the bracing fast pace that money moves at. Pew pew pew ... |
| Updated | |
| at 10.48pm GMT | |
| 10.39pm GMT | |
| 22:39 | |
| Here’s a question about paid family leave, and mandatory paid maternity leave. | Here’s a question about paid family leave, and mandatory paid maternity leave. |
| “I’m not for the government mandating that,” Jindal says. “We already have too many mandates out of DC... the government can’t wave a magic wand and make that happen.” | “I’m not for the government mandating that,” Jindal says. “We already have too many mandates out of DC... the government can’t wave a magic wand and make that happen.” |
| He says that Obama has put the country “on the path to socialism.” | He says that Obama has put the country “on the path to socialism.” |
| He says economic growth will magically produce benefits like paid family leave. | He says economic growth will magically produce benefits like paid family leave. |
| 10.38pm GMT | |
| 22:38 | |
| Santorum blames immigration for keeping wages and economic participation rates low. | Santorum blames immigration for keeping wages and economic participation rates low. |
| “We’re bringing in people to compete against low-wage workers,” Santorum says. That of course is highly debatable. | “We’re bringing in people to compete against low-wage workers,” Santorum says. That of course is highly debatable. |
| Graham jumps in once again as the realist on immigration. He says US companies need workers. “If you can’t find an American worker after you advertise for a competitive wage, bring in” workers, Graham says. | Graham jumps in once again as the realist on immigration. He says US companies need workers. “If you can’t find an American worker after you advertise for a competitive wage, bring in” workers, Graham says. |
| Then everybody starts talking. Pataki is waving his arms. He’s noticeably taller than Graham. Quick wants him to end his speech. Quintanilla takes the mic. | Then everybody starts talking. Pataki is waving his arms. He’s noticeably taller than Graham. Quick wants him to end his speech. Quintanilla takes the mic. |
| 10.32pm GMT | |
| 22:32 | |
| Graham: Sanders 'went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, and I don't think he ever came back' | Graham: Sanders 'went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, and I don't think he ever came back' |
| Graham has committed the heresies, in the context of the current Republican primary conversation, of saying climate change is real and supporting a path to citizenship for undocumented migrants. He’s asked to defend himself. | Graham has committed the heresies, in the context of the current Republican primary conversation, of saying climate change is real and supporting a path to citizenship for undocumented migrants. He’s asked to defend himself. |
| “I think I’m trying to solve problems,” Graham says. | “I think I’m trying to solve problems,” Graham says. |
| “I have been to the Antarctic, I have been to Alaska. I’m not a scientist, and I have the grades to prove it... [but] the greenhouse gas effect is real, that we’re heating up the planet. I just want a solution that does not destroy the economy.” | “I have been to the Antarctic, I have been to Alaska. I’m not a scientist, and I have the grades to prove it... [but] the greenhouse gas effect is real, that we’re heating up the planet. I just want a solution that does not destroy the economy.” |
| He also wants to win elections: | He also wants to win elections: |
| “I’m tired of losing!” Graham says. “Good god look who we’re running against.” | “I’m tired of losing!” Graham says. “Good god look who we’re running against.” |
| The number one candidate [claimed to be broke] after eight years in the White House. The number two guy went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, and I don’t think he ever came back. | The number one candidate [claimed to be broke] after eight years in the White House. The number two guy went to the Soviet Union on his honeymoon, and I don’t think he ever came back. |
| Laugh line, including among the moderators. | Laugh line, including among the moderators. |
| Updated | |
| at 11.14pm GMT | |
| 10.28pm GMT | |
| 22:28 | |
| Pataki has a chance to defend Wall Street, as a former New York governor. He does not. | Pataki has a chance to defend Wall Street, as a former New York governor. He does not. |
| “I think they have gone too far,” he says. “I think we’ve seen Wall Street blossom and do really well, while a lot of people are struggling.” He blames a corrupt relationship with Washington. | “I think they have gone too far,” he says. “I think we’ve seen Wall Street blossom and do really well, while a lot of people are struggling.” He blames a corrupt relationship with Washington. |
| “I’ve cut taxes more than anybody on this stage, more than anybody on the next stage combined,” he boasts. | “I’ve cut taxes more than anybody on this stage, more than anybody on the next stage combined,” he boasts. |
| 10.25pm GMT | |
| 22:25 | |
| Graham: 'Make me commander in chief and this crap stops' | Graham: 'Make me commander in chief and this crap stops' |
| Cramer invites Graham to indulge his darkest fantasies about geopolitical threats bearing down on America’s shores. | Cramer invites Graham to indulge his darkest fantasies about geopolitical threats bearing down on America’s shores. |
| “The foreign policy of Barack Obama needs to be replaced” and you can’t do that by electing his secretary of state, Graham says. | “The foreign policy of Barack Obama needs to be replaced” and you can’t do that by electing his secretary of state, Graham says. |
| Then he produces quite a moment, raising a fist and an open palm. | Then he produces quite a moment, raising a fist and an open palm. |
| “To the Chinese, when it comes to dealing with me, you’ve got a clenched fist and an open hand, and you choose which,” Graham says. | “To the Chinese, when it comes to dealing with me, you’ve got a clenched fist and an open hand, and you choose which,” Graham says. |
| “The party’s over. Make me commander in chief and this crap stops!” | “The party’s over. Make me commander in chief and this crap stops!” |
| Updated | |
| at 10.57pm GMT | |
| 10.23pm GMT | |
| 22:23 | |
| Cramer asks Pataki whether we need a military response to cyber-warfare. | Cramer asks Pataki whether we need a military response to cyber-warfare. |
| (The debate is back on. This is not happening in some weird corner of the internet. It’s happening in a weird corner of national TV.) | (The debate is back on. This is not happening in some weird corner of the internet. It’s happening in a weird corner of national TV.) |
| Pataki hits out at Clinton for “putting an unsecure server ... as secretary of state, that without a doubt was hacked” by China and Russia. | Pataki hits out at Clinton for “putting an unsecure server ... as secretary of state, that without a doubt was hacked” by China and Russia. |
| Pataki says Clinton is disqualified. The crowd whistles and cheers. | Pataki says Clinton is disqualified. The crowd whistles and cheers. |
| Updated | |
| at 10.58pm GMT | |
| 10.22pm GMT | |
| 22:22 | |
| Ben Jacobs | Ben Jacobs |
| As the undercard debate began, Jeb Bush rolled out an endorsement from a former vice president, notes Ben Jacobs in Boulder. | As the undercard debate began, Jeb Bush rolled out an endorsement from a former vice president, notes Ben Jacobs in Boulder. |
| The Bush campaign announced that George HW Bush’s vice president, Dan Quayle was backing the former Florida governor. | The Bush campaign announced that George HW Bush’s vice president, Dan Quayle was backing the former Florida governor. |
| The endorsement drew some skepticism. Quayle, who mounted an abortive bid for the White House in 2000 against George W Bush, was never regarded as one of the best and the brightest in American politics. Perhaps his best known moment was in 1992 when he insisted to a grade school student that the word “potato” should be spelled “potatoe”. | The endorsement drew some skepticism. Quayle, who mounted an abortive bid for the White House in 2000 against George W Bush, was never regarded as one of the best and the brightest in American politics. Perhaps his best known moment was in 1992 when he insisted to a grade school student that the word “potato” should be spelled “potatoe”. |
| 10.21pm GMT | |
| 22:21 | |
| Well ... | Well ... |
| LMFAOOOOO https://t.co/lur7rXwYBh | LMFAOOOOO https://t.co/lur7rXwYBh |
| Updated | |
| at 10.22pm GMT | |
| 10.21pm GMT | |
| 22:21 | |
| Is Hillary Clinton watching tonight? She’s playing with the Republicans on Twitter, at least: | Is Hillary Clinton watching tonight? She’s playing with the Republicans on Twitter, at least: |
| Which GOP candidate would you want to see Hillary take on in a debate? Cast your vote! https://t.co/IAf9qEWt7g pic.twitter.com/LdvZ4HytVS | Which GOP candidate would you want to see Hillary take on in a debate? Cast your vote! https://t.co/IAf9qEWt7g pic.twitter.com/LdvZ4HytVS |
| 10.20pm GMT | |
| 22:20 | |
| Commercial. Do what you have to do around the house. | Commercial. Do what you have to do around the house. |
| 10.20pm GMT | |
| 22:20 | |
| Jindal says it’s “dangerous times for America” because of the size of the debt, $18tn. (The debt limit reset in March was $18.113tn.) | Jindal says it’s “dangerous times for America” because of the size of the debt, $18tn. (The debt limit reset in March was $18.113tn.) |
| 10.20pm GMT | |
| 22:20 | |
| My colleague Jana Kasperkevic will be analysing the debate through a series of Vines tonight. Here she highlights the wealth of the candidates in this undercard debate. | My colleague Jana Kasperkevic will be analysing the debate through a series of Vines tonight. Here she highlights the wealth of the candidates in this undercard debate. |
| The four candidates in this debate are worth combined $21 million. Chump change. https://t.co/Cc1OJ6EWnz | The four candidates in this debate are worth combined $21 million. Chump change. https://t.co/Cc1OJ6EWnz |
| Millionaire Jeopardy! https://t.co/ZamSe7yTkm | Millionaire Jeopardy! https://t.co/ZamSe7yTkm |
| Updated | |
| at 10.49pm GMT | |
| 10.16pm GMT | |
| 22:16 | |
| Pataki agrees with Graham on the current budget, saying it protects the military. | Pataki agrees with Graham on the current budget, saying it protects the military. |
| An air of comity prevails in Boulder. Jindal’s tie is pink. The backdrop to the stage is electric blue and rather aggressively branded with the CNBC logo. Big moment for the little cable channel that could. | An air of comity prevails in Boulder. Jindal’s tie is pink. The backdrop to the stage is electric blue and rather aggressively branded with the CNBC logo. Big moment for the little cable channel that could. |
| 10.15pm GMT | |
| 22:15 | |
| Santorum takes a question about his flat tax - he wants to tax every household income at an even 20%. | Santorum takes a question about his flat tax - he wants to tax every household income at an even 20%. |
| He says the biggest problem is the breakdown of the American family. He says his plan is pro-growth and pro-family. He doesn’t get into how throwing out the graduated tax system is more pro-family than a flat tax. | He says the biggest problem is the breakdown of the American family. He says his plan is pro-growth and pro-family. He doesn’t get into how throwing out the graduated tax system is more pro-family than a flat tax. |
| 10.14pm GMT | |
| 22:14 | |
| 10.13pm GMT | |
| 22:13 | |
| Quick asks about debt limits. Would you blow through the debt ceiling in order to resist passing a disagreeable budget, like the one before Congress now? | Quick asks about debt limits. Would you blow through the debt ceiling in order to resist passing a disagreeable budget, like the one before Congress now? |
| Jindal says it’s a false choice because the government could cut spending and not keep running through the ceiling. | Jindal says it’s a false choice because the government could cut spending and not keep running through the ceiling. |
| He says something about “turning the American dream into a European nightmare,” with reference to unemployment and growth rates. | He says something about “turning the American dream into a European nightmare,” with reference to unemployment and growth rates. |
| Harwood swipes the spotlight. He asks Graham whether he would vote for a budget deal agreed to Monday night. | Harwood swipes the spotlight. He asks Graham whether he would vote for a budget deal agreed to Monday night. |
| Graham ignores the question. “I’ll tell you what is real,” he says. “The threat to our homeland.” | Graham ignores the question. “I’ll tell you what is real,” he says. “The threat to our homeland.” |
| He’ll vote for the budget, he says, because it puts “$40bn back in the defense department at a time we need it.” | He’ll vote for the budget, he says, because it puts “$40bn back in the defense department at a time we need it.” |
| 10.12pm GMT | |
| 22:12 | |
| 10.10pm GMT | |
| 22:10 | |
| Harwood has the first Q. It’s not about $$ at all. It’s about how popular outsider candidacies are this year and asks Jindal, the Louisiana governor, how he fits the bill. | Harwood has the first Q. It’s not about $$ at all. It’s about how popular outsider candidacies are this year and asks Jindal, the Louisiana governor, how he fits the bill. |
| Jindal says he will chop government, which is the most outsider-y thing of all. Santorum says that he was a force for reform during his two senate terms. Pataki, the thrice-elected governor, says Washington needs and outsider but “you can’t just be an outsider.” | Jindal says he will chop government, which is the most outsider-y thing of all. Santorum says that he was a force for reform during his two senate terms. Pataki, the thrice-elected governor, says Washington needs and outsider but “you can’t just be an outsider.” |
| Graham says thanks for having him and asks the audience to applaud itself. He says the only way he could have gotten into UC-Boulder was to be invited to the presidential debate. Hard to tell whether they laughed. Then he zooms to the end of his statement about national security threats being real. | Graham says thanks for having him and asks the audience to applaud itself. He says the only way he could have gotten into UC-Boulder was to be invited to the presidential debate. Hard to tell whether they laughed. Then he zooms to the end of his statement about national security threats being real. |
| 10.07pm GMT | |
| 22:07 | |
| The event begins. Becky Quick introduces the show. Candidates get 30 seconds per question and the same for rebuttals, she explains. Quintanilla is on her right, your left. Harwood’s on the other side. | The event begins. Becky Quick introduces the show. Candidates get 30 seconds per question and the same for rebuttals, she explains. Quintanilla is on her right, your left. Harwood’s on the other side. |
| 10.05pm GMT | |
| 22:05 | |
| Oh pity. They’re making them stand there behind their lecterns without, for the moment, asking them anything. It’s a silent debate. Aaand now they’ve gone to commercial. | Oh pity. They’re making them stand there behind their lecterns without, for the moment, asking them anything. It’s a silent debate. Aaand now they’ve gone to commercial. |
| Well, Marco Rubio made a joke on YouTube today. Did you see it? | Well, Marco Rubio made a joke on YouTube today. Did you see it? |
| 10.02pm GMT | |
| 22:02 | |
| Time’s up for preliminary niceties. The four bonus candidates have taken the stage. Bobby, Rick, George and Lindsey. Let’s listen to what these guys have to say. | Time’s up for preliminary niceties. The four bonus candidates have taken the stage. Bobby, Rick, George and Lindsey. Let’s listen to what these guys have to say. |
| 10.01pm GMT | |
| 22:01 | |
| Is Donald Trump in trouble? In advance of the debate, he was already complaining about an “unfair” fight | Is Donald Trump in trouble? In advance of the debate, he was already complaining about an “unfair” fight |
| After a great evening and packed auditorium in Iowa, I am now in Colorado looking forward to what I am sure will be a very unfair debate! | After a great evening and packed auditorium in Iowa, I am now in Colorado looking forward to what I am sure will be a very unfair debate! |
| The essence of his beef was that CNBC has been broadcasting the same poll everyone else has picked up on this week, which for the first time since July showed Trump trailing Ben Carson in the nominating race. | The essence of his beef was that CNBC has been broadcasting the same poll everyone else has picked up on this week, which for the first time since July showed Trump trailing Ben Carson in the nominating race. |
| It was a solid poll, commissioned by CBS News /New York Times and conducted over the telephone by people, as opposed to through robo-calling or over the Internet, which latter techniques are considered less effective. | It was a solid poll, commissioned by CBS News /New York Times and conducted over the telephone by people, as opposed to through robo-calling or over the Internet, which latter techniques are considered less effective. |
| The poll found Carson ahead of Trump 26-22. | The poll found Carson ahead of Trump 26-22. |
| .@CNBC continues to report fictious poll numbers. Number one, based on every statistic, is Trump (by a wide margin). They just can't say it! | .@CNBC continues to report fictious poll numbers. Number one, based on every statistic, is Trump (by a wide margin). They just can't say it! |
| Trump would rather have America look at a poll published just today, by YouGov/ The Economist and conducted over the Internet, which shows him ahead of Carson 32-18. | Trump would rather have America look at a poll published just today, by YouGov/ The Economist and conducted over the Internet, which shows him ahead of Carson 32-18. |
| .@TheEconomist Poll, one of the most highly respected, was just released. Wow, wait until the media digests these numbers - won't be happy! | .@TheEconomist Poll, one of the most highly respected, was just released. Wow, wait until the media digests these numbers - won't be happy! |
| 9.52pm GMT | |
| 21:52 | |
| Hosting tonight’s event is the cable channel CNBC, which has wrangled three moderators and three sideline questioners for the job. They’re calling it “The Republican Presidential Debate: Your Money, Your Vote.” | Hosting tonight’s event is the cable channel CNBC, which has wrangled three moderators and three sideline questioners for the job. They’re calling it “The Republican Presidential Debate: Your Money, Your Vote.” |
| The moderators are Becky Quick, John Harwood and Carl Quintanilla. | The moderators are Becky Quick, John Harwood and Carl Quintanilla. |
| The questioners are Jim Cramer, Sharon Epperson and Rick Santelli. | The questioners are Jim Cramer, Sharon Epperson and Rick Santelli. |
| Harwood comes into the event with already one debate scalp tacked to his wall. Remember Texas Governor Rick Perry’s big “oops” in 2012? That was thanks to Harwood: | Harwood comes into the event with already one debate scalp tacked to his wall. Remember Texas Governor Rick Perry’s big “oops” in 2012? That was thanks to Harwood: |
| But Santelli may be the real star of the evening: he’s credited with giving rise – and giving a name – to one of the most influential forces in conservative politics in the last 50 years. | But Santelli may be the real star of the evening: he’s credited with giving rise – and giving a name – to one of the most influential forces in conservative politics in the last 50 years. |
| A Santelli rant on the floor of the Chicago stock exchange in 2009 about bailing out bad mortgages captured the outrage many Americans felt over what they considered to be bad fiscal habits in Washington and a national malady of spending beyond one’s means. | A Santelli rant on the floor of the Chicago stock exchange in 2009 about bailing out bad mortgages captured the outrage many Americans felt over what they considered to be bad fiscal habits in Washington and a national malady of spending beyond one’s means. |
| Behold, how the Tea Party, in part, was born: | Behold, how the Tea Party, in part, was born: |
| 9.27pm GMT | |
| 21:27 | |
| Hello! and welcome to our coverage of the third Republican presidential debate. | Hello! and welcome to our coverage of the third Republican presidential debate. |
| Tonight, it’s all about money. | Tonight, it’s all about money. |
| Money: what’s more important to you? What’s more important to anyone? Nothing, and yet too often the national political conversation burbles along with no real discussion of the policies that matter most for your bottom line: taxes, debt, pensions, trade, healthcare and capital-G Growth. | Money: what’s more important to you? What’s more important to anyone? Nothing, and yet too often the national political conversation burbles along with no real discussion of the policies that matter most for your bottom line: taxes, debt, pensions, trade, healthcare and capital-G Growth. |
| The 14 remaining Republican candidates are going to tear into those questions tonight with their teeth, in what should be at the very least an impressive competition to see who can make the most wildly impossible promises about lowering taxes while protecting the entitlements programs voters hold most dear. | The 14 remaining Republican candidates are going to tear into those questions tonight with their teeth, in what should be at the very least an impressive competition to see who can make the most wildly impossible promises about lowering taxes while protecting the entitlements programs voters hold most dear. |
| On the off chance that those $$ topics leave you cold, consider this: tonight may present one of the rare moments when Donald Trump will not be the loudest person in the room. Hosting the debate this evening will be no fewer than six television personalities from the cable financial news channel CNBC, whose programs go by names like Squawk on the Street and Squawk Alley and Squawk Box. It’s a great channel! | On the off chance that those $$ topics leave you cold, consider this: tonight may present one of the rare moments when Donald Trump will not be the loudest person in the room. Hosting the debate this evening will be no fewer than six television personalities from the cable financial news channel CNBC, whose programs go by names like Squawk on the Street and Squawk Alley and Squawk Box. It’s a great channel! |
| Here are the candidates taking part in the main debate, which starts at 8pm ET: | Here are the candidates taking part in the main debate, which starts at 8pm ET: |
| As with the three prior Republican debates, tonight’s main event, which starts at 8pm ET, will be preceded by a junior varsity debate comprising the four candidates who are polling least well. The venue is named after a beer synonymous with Colorado, if you hate Colorado: the Coors Events Center at the University of Colorado-Boulder. | As with the three prior Republican debates, tonight’s main event, which starts at 8pm ET, will be preceded by a junior varsity debate comprising the four candidates who are polling least well. The venue is named after a beer synonymous with Colorado, if you hate Colorado: the Coors Events Center at the University of Colorado-Boulder. |
| The JV debate is scheduled to start soon, at 6pm ET. Participating in the warm-up will be: | The JV debate is scheduled to start soon, at 6pm ET. Participating in the warm-up will be: |
| Settle in now for a night of bling, zing and cha-cha-cha ching. | Settle in now for a night of bling, zing and cha-cha-cha ching. |
| Along for the ride this evening here at Guardian US are: | Along for the ride this evening here at Guardian US are: |
| To get in the mood, watch our video report: What’s at stake in Colorado? | To get in the mood, watch our video report: What’s at stake in Colorado? |
| You can watch the debate live here. | You can watch the debate live here. |
| Updated | |
| at 10.02pm GMT |