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| Republican debate: Rubio and Cruz take on frontrunners Trump and Carson | Republican debate: Rubio and Cruz take on frontrunners Trump and Carson |
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| 11.50pm GMT23:50 | |
| Tonight is supposed in part to be about the candidates’ plans for economic growth and tax policy, which amounts to dutiful descriptions from the stage of plans that have no chance of being enacted but every chance of being dissected afterward by analysts trying to glimpse what these people actually are out for. | |
| Not up on the candidates’ tax plans, which in your defense remain mostly sketchy and unarticulated? The Tax Policy Center has your back. Enjoy: | |
| Ready for tonights 4th #GOPDebate? If you need your tax proposal cheat sheet we have you covered: https://t.co/fcTJRCZumV #election2016 | |
| 11.43pm GMT23:43 | |
| What is the purpose of secret service code names if they announce to the whole world what they are? | |
| Anyway, Trump and Carson, as the polling frontrunners for the Republican nomination, have a measure of secret service protection now, to the point that they can add “earned secret service nickname” to their CVs / résumés (when are they going to come up with an American word for it). | |
| You may remember in the second Republican debate the candidates were asked to say what they wanted their nicknames to be, and Christie said Trueheart and Bush said Eveready and Trump said Humble and Carson said One Nation. | |
| Trump and Carson must not have contacted the right bureaucrat, because the names have been assigned, and they did not get their first choices. Carson was named for a Biblical high priest and Trump was named after a bump on a ski run: | |
| Source confirms to ABC that @RealBenCarson's Secret Service code name will be "Eli" and @realDonaldTrump's will be "Mogul." -@KFaulders | |
| Updated at 11.43pm GMT | |
| 11.37pm GMT23:37 | |
| Spare a thought for the losers: both Senator Lindsey Graham and former New York governor George Pataki were dropped from the undercard debate tonight, not quite having bent the old pole back far enough to vault the 1%-level support in at least one of the four most recent national polls required to get in. (It took 2.5% to get into the main event, a mark that foiled Christie and Huckabee.) | |
| Undaunted, Graham told the Guardian: “I don’t think I am an undercard person and not an undercard candidate.” Ben Jacobs reports: | |
| The problem with the debates, he said, was that the criteria for entry to the top table favored those candidates who “had a TV show”. | |
| Instead of debating on Tuesday night, the South Carolina senator said he would use the social media network Sidewire, which promises “news and analysis from insiders without the noise”, to share his thoughts on the main debate. | |
| “We’ll be commenting on policy and trying to have a sense of humor,” he said. | |
| Time to sign up for Sidewire! | |
| 11.30pm GMT23:30 | |
| Could tonight CHANGE EVERYTHING?! | |
| The Fox Business-WSJ debates start tonight at 7p ET! Here's how to watch: https://t.co/t2ijHYV3VJ pic.twitter.com/Akjw5OZ8mg | |
| Far out man. | |
| 11.25pm GMT23:25 | |
| The Republican candidates felt so poorly treated in the last debate by host network CNBC that they complained onstage about the questions and held a meeting afterward to draft demands for future debates. | |
| But tonight’s debate host, Fox Business, is not subject to the new Republican demands, the Guardian’s Ed Pilkington reports, “partly perhaps because of the strong obeisance shown by senior Republicans towards Roger Ailes, the chairman and CEO of Fox News and Fox Business Network”: | |
| Nonetheless, some changes will be on display in Milwaukee that could notably influence the tone of the debate....The network has also agreed to extend the cutoff time for candidates’ answers from 60 to 90 seconds. | |
| RNC chairman Reince Priebus sent a letter to committee members describing the national party’s efforts to manage tonight’s spectacle: | |
| A top R passes along the letter that @Reince just sent to RNC members. Here's part of it: pic.twitter.com/GsooFl7y6Z | |
| 11.18pm GMT23:18 | 11.18pm GMT23:18 |
| Just weeks ago, a confrontation between Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio at the third Republican debate marked a critical turning point in the trajectories of the two former Florida allies and their presidential campaigns, the Guardian’s Sabrina Siddiqui reminds us. | Just weeks ago, a confrontation between Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio at the third Republican debate marked a critical turning point in the trajectories of the two former Florida allies and their presidential campaigns, the Guardian’s Sabrina Siddiqui reminds us. |
| It not only underscored the perils of Bush, the state’s former governor, trying to attack Rubio, one of its senators, but also left many political observers baffled by the Bush campaign’s tactics and decision to target his former protege. | It not only underscored the perils of Bush, the state’s former governor, trying to attack Rubio, one of its senators, but also left many political observers baffled by the Bush campaign’s tactics and decision to target his former protege. |
| Click through below for all the dark intrigue that defines Bush-Rubio: | Click through below for all the dark intrigue that defines Bush-Rubio: |
| Jeb's Rubio problem: How to be an antagonist toward a candidate he promoted for years as a next-generation leader https://t.co/21oURfiJYx | Jeb's Rubio problem: How to be an antagonist toward a candidate he promoted for years as a next-generation leader https://t.co/21oURfiJYx |
| 10.47pm GMT22:47 | 10.47pm GMT22:47 |
| Hello! And welcome to our coverage of the fourth Republican presidential debate. | Hello! And welcome to our coverage of the fourth Republican presidential debate. |
| What makes this night different from all other nights? We’re going to Milwaukee! That’s right – the traveling GOP circus is pitching tent tonight in Beer Town, once home to four of the largest breweries on Earth, which together sound like the perfect law firm for DUIs: Blatz, Miller, Pabst & Schlitz. | |
| Ah, Milwaukee. Donald Trump’s going to be here. There’s quite a lot on the line, actually, considering how fast the calendar is flipping, and the growing pressure on certain candidates – looking at you, Jeb Bush – to make the kind of move that says “yes” to voters and “$$” to donors. | Ah, Milwaukee. Donald Trump’s going to be here. There’s quite a lot on the line, actually, considering how fast the calendar is flipping, and the growing pressure on certain candidates – looking at you, Jeb Bush – to make the kind of move that says “yes” to voters and “$$” to donors. |
| But on the off chance that you don’t want to think about Jeb, we’ve prepared a nice buffet of narratives for you to choose from as we prepare to watch. Tonight might be about Ben Carson, and whether he responds to the beating his biography took this week. It might be about Trump, and whether he will amplify his attacks on Carson. Will Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz top the strong reviews they won last time? Will Chris Christie, who for the first time has been removed from the main event, crush the undercard? Will the Bush vs Rubio rivalry get ugly? | But on the off chance that you don’t want to think about Jeb, we’ve prepared a nice buffet of narratives for you to choose from as we prepare to watch. Tonight might be about Ben Carson, and whether he responds to the beating his biography took this week. It might be about Trump, and whether he will amplify his attacks on Carson. Will Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz top the strong reviews they won last time? Will Chris Christie, who for the first time has been removed from the main event, crush the undercard? Will the Bush vs Rubio rivalry get ugly? |
| Will one of the candidates actually leave the stage and kick the personal ass, on behalf of America, of an actual member of the media? | Will one of the candidates actually leave the stage and kick the personal ass, on behalf of America, of an actual member of the media? |
| If it happens, you’ll hear about it here first. For an enhanced media consumption experience, we encourage you to stream the debate live on foxbusiness.com as you read. | If it happens, you’ll hear about it here first. For an enhanced media consumption experience, we encourage you to stream the debate live on foxbusiness.com as you read. |
| Boring details | Boring details |
| Tonight’s debate will be hosted and broadcast by Fox Business Network in conjunction with the Wall Street Journal. “The questions will focus on jobs, taxes and the general health of the economy, as well as domestic and international policy issues,” Fox says. | Tonight’s debate will be hosted and broadcast by Fox Business Network in conjunction with the Wall Street Journal. “The questions will focus on jobs, taxes and the general health of the economy, as well as domestic and international policy issues,” Fox says. |
| The undercard debate, a one-hour bout beginning at 7pm ET, will be hosted by FBN anchors Sandra Smith and Trish Regan, and WSJ Washington bureau chief Gerald Seib. | The undercard debate, a one-hour bout beginning at 7pm ET, will be hosted by FBN anchors Sandra Smith and Trish Regan, and WSJ Washington bureau chief Gerald Seib. |
| The two-hour primetime debate follows at 9pm ET and will be moderated by Neil Cavuto and Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, with WSJ editor Gerard Baker. | The two-hour primetime debate follows at 9pm ET and will be moderated by Neil Cavuto and Maria Bartiromo of Fox News, with WSJ editor Gerard Baker. |
| Here are the candidates taking part in the main debate at 9pm: | Here are the candidates taking part in the main debate at 9pm: |
| Here’s the 7pm undercard lineup: | Here’s the 7pm undercard lineup: |
| Along for the ride this evening here at Guardian US are: | Along for the ride this evening here at Guardian US are: |
| Schlemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated! | Schlemeel, schlemazel, hasenfeffer incorporated! |
| Updated at 11.49pm GMT |