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| Democratic debate: candidates spar on terrorism, Wall Street reform, healthcare — as it happened | Democratic debate: candidates spar on terrorism, Wall Street reform, healthcare — as it happened |
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| 5.00am GMT | 5.00am GMT |
| 05:00 | 05:00 |
| We’re wrapping up our live politics coverage for the evening. You can read our fresh news coverage of the second Democratic debate here: | We’re wrapping up our live politics coverage for the evening. You can read our fresh news coverage of the second Democratic debate here: |
| Democratic debate: candidates face off on foreign policy in light of Paris attacks. | Democratic debate: candidates face off on foreign policy in light of Paris attacks. |
| For the latest on the Paris attacks and the aftermath, visit our ongoing live coverage here. | For the latest on the Paris attacks and the aftermath, visit our ongoing live coverage here. |
| Thanks for joining us for the debate – good night, or good morning, good day – wherever you may be. | Thanks for joining us for the debate – good night, or good morning, good day – wherever you may be. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 5.02am GMT | at 5.02am GMT |
| 4.46am GMT | 4.46am GMT |
| 04:46 | 04:46 |
| The Republicans weren’t wowed by Clinton’s performance, Guardian political reporter Sabrina Siddiqui reports: | The Republicans weren’t wowed by Clinton’s performance, Guardian political reporter Sabrina Siddiqui reports: |
| RNC: "Tonight’s debate reinforced that [Hillary Clinton] is inconsistent on issues, weak on terrorism and beholden to special interests." | RNC: "Tonight’s debate reinforced that [Hillary Clinton] is inconsistent on issues, weak on terrorism and beholden to special interests." |
| 4.45am GMT | 4.45am GMT |
| 04:45 | 04:45 |
| Now that the debate is safely over: | Now that the debate is safely over: |
| And it looks Iowa just put the game away against Minnesota. So now Iowans will finally change the channel and watch #DemDebate | And it looks Iowa just put the game away against Minnesota. So now Iowans will finally change the channel and watch #DemDebate |
| 4.43am GMT | 4.43am GMT |
| 04:43 | 04:43 |
| Here are the moments that generated the most conversation on Twitter, via Twitter: | Here are the moments that generated the most conversation on Twitter, via Twitter: |
| And here are a couple fun tracking tools from Google, tracking searches for candidates and for issues: | And here are a couple fun tracking tools from Google, tracking searches for candidates and for issues: |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 5.04am GMT | at 5.04am GMT |
| 4.32am GMT | 4.32am GMT |
| 04:32 | 04:32 |
| The second Democratic debate is through. Here’s a summary of what we learned: | The second Democratic debate is through. Here’s a summary of what we learned: |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 4.49am GMT | at 4.49am GMT |
| 4.24am GMT | 4.24am GMT |
| 04:24 | 04:24 |
| Ben Jacobs | Ben Jacobs |
| From Washington, political reporter Ben Jacobs writes about one of the more controversial moments of the debate – Hillary Clinton’s recourse to 9/11 while answering a question about Wall Street: | From Washington, political reporter Ben Jacobs writes about one of the more controversial moments of the debate – Hillary Clinton’s recourse to 9/11 while answering a question about Wall Street: |
| Hillary Clinton drew attention on the internet for all the wrong reasons during Saturday night’s debate, after an answer to a question about Wall Street that was so awkward it prompted a follow-up question from Twitter. | Hillary Clinton drew attention on the internet for all the wrong reasons during Saturday night’s debate, after an answer to a question about Wall Street that was so awkward it prompted a follow-up question from Twitter. |
| The former secretary of state responded to an accusation from Senator Bernie Sanders that she was too close to Wall Street by citing the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001. Clinton said: “So I represented New York. I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan, where Wall Street is.” | The former secretary of state responded to an accusation from Senator Bernie Sanders that she was too close to Wall Street by citing the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001. Clinton said: “So I represented New York. I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan, where Wall Street is.” |
| The answer provoked outrage on Twitter, where many thought that the former secretary of state was somehow invoking 9/11 to shield herself from criticism. One tweet, from University of Iowa law professor Andy Grewal, was cited by debate moderator Nancy Cordes in a follow up question: | The answer provoked outrage on Twitter, where many thought that the former secretary of state was somehow invoking 9/11 to shield herself from criticism. One tweet, from University of Iowa law professor Andy Grewal, was cited by debate moderator Nancy Cordes in a follow up question: |
| Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebate | Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebate |
| Clinton’s answer was an echo of a statement from the previous Democratic debate, in which she made clear that as a senator from New York she had represented all of the Empire State. However, she had not previously referenced the 11 September terrorist attacks. | Clinton’s answer was an echo of a statement from the previous Democratic debate, in which she made clear that as a senator from New York she had represented all of the Empire State. However, she had not previously referenced the 11 September terrorist attacks. |
| The statement prompted attacks both from her Democratic opponents and Republicans. A top aide to long-shot Democrat Martin O’Malley cited her family’s experience in the attack: | The statement prompted attacks both from her Democratic opponents and Republicans. A top aide to long-shot Democrat Martin O’Malley cited her family’s experience in the attack: |
| My dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positions | My dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positions |
| On the other side of the divide, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus took to Twitter to express his own outrage: | On the other side of the divide, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus took to Twitter to express his own outrage: |
| .@HillaryClinton, you reached a new low tonight by using 9/11 to defend your campaign donations. #DemDebate | .@HillaryClinton, you reached a new low tonight by using 9/11 to defend your campaign donations. #DemDebate |
| Yet for all her struggles with that answer, at least one observer on Twitter thought Clinton had not had such a bad night – at least in comparison with one other participant… | Yet for all her struggles with that answer, at least one observer on Twitter thought Clinton had not had such a bad night – at least in comparison with one other participant… |
| Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown. | Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown. |
| 4.16am GMT | 4.16am GMT |
| 04:16 | 04:16 |
| Megan Carpentier | Megan Carpentier |
| From our US opinion editor: | From our US opinion editor: |
| It was hard not to notice that for the second time, women’s issues were barely mentioned in the Democratic debate unless Clinton (or, to a lesser degree, her rivals) brought them up. | It was hard not to notice that for the second time, women’s issues were barely mentioned in the Democratic debate unless Clinton (or, to a lesser degree, her rivals) brought them up. |
| The candidates and their moderator made it nearly 90 minutes in (as NY Magazine writer at large Rebecca Traister noted) without even mentioning Planned Parenthood, though federal funding for its non-abortion services nearly caused a government shutdown since the last Democratic debate. | The candidates and their moderator made it nearly 90 minutes in (as NY Magazine writer at large Rebecca Traister noted) without even mentioning Planned Parenthood, though federal funding for its non-abortion services nearly caused a government shutdown since the last Democratic debate. |
| For all that Clinton has tried to make the argument on the stump and in general that “women’s issues” – from birth control and abortion to equal pay and paid family leave – are actually issues that affect both men and women in concrete ways, and for all that Bernie Sanders used Clinton’s framing of those issues during the debate, it’s as though “women’s issues” are still considered “niche”. | For all that Clinton has tried to make the argument on the stump and in general that “women’s issues” – from birth control and abortion to equal pay and paid family leave – are actually issues that affect both men and women in concrete ways, and for all that Bernie Sanders used Clinton’s framing of those issues during the debate, it’s as though “women’s issues” are still considered “niche”. |
| Though women represent half the population of the US, issues that have a disproportionate impact on women still apparently feel “too niche” to be part of a debate in which two of three candidates couldn’t stop saying “Glass-Steagall”, like it was some talisman to ward off the warlocks of Wall Street. | Though women represent half the population of the US, issues that have a disproportionate impact on women still apparently feel “too niche” to be part of a debate in which two of three candidates couldn’t stop saying “Glass-Steagall”, like it was some talisman to ward off the warlocks of Wall Street. |
| 3.58am GMT | 3.58am GMT |
| 03:58 | 03:58 |
| The candidates are leaving the stage, greeting people in the crowd. | The candidates are leaving the stage, greeting people in the crowd. |
| How do you think they did? | How do you think they did? |
| I still need to be convinced that “I’m a baby boomer, like the voters I need” is gonna hurt her. Depends on R. https://t.co/ZKyWqPnniq | I still need to be convinced that “I’m a baby boomer, like the voters I need” is gonna hurt her. Depends on R. https://t.co/ZKyWqPnniq |
| 3.58am GMT | 3.58am GMT |
| 03:58 | 03:58 |
| Some video… at the start of the debate in Des Moines, each candidate was invited to comment on the terrorist attacks in Paris the night before … | Some video… at the start of the debate in Des Moines, each candidate was invited to comment on the terrorist attacks in Paris the night before … |
| 3.52am GMT | 3.52am GMT |
| 03:52 | 03:52 |
| Closing statements. | Closing statements. |
| O’Malley: Our country’s problems can only be addressed with new thinking. We cannot resort to “divisive ideologies” or “polarizing figures” from our past. We need a new foreign policy. There is no challenge too great. New leadership. New new new. | O’Malley: Our country’s problems can only be addressed with new thinking. We cannot resort to “divisive ideologies” or “polarizing figures” from our past. We need a new foreign policy. There is no challenge too great. New leadership. New new new. |
| Clinton: I’ve heard a lot about me in this debate. I’m going to keep talking and thinking about you. “The president’s job is to do everything possible, everything she can do to help lift up” the people of the country. I will work my heart out. | Clinton: I’ve heard a lot about me in this debate. I’m going to keep talking and thinking about you. “The president’s job is to do everything possible, everything she can do to help lift up” the people of the country. I will work my heart out. |
| Sanders: USA has an income and wealth inequality problem. Campaign finance is broke. Health care is broken. We need paid family and medical leave. In order to bring about these changes, we need a political revolution. Turn off the TV, get involved in the political process. | Sanders: USA has an income and wealth inequality problem. Campaign finance is broke. Health care is broken. We need paid family and medical leave. In order to bring about these changes, we need a political revolution. Turn off the TV, get involved in the political process. |
| Bernie Sanders, on TV, tells people to turn off the TV. | Bernie Sanders, on TV, tells people to turn off the TV. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.54am GMT | at 3.54am GMT |
| 3.47am GMT | 3.47am GMT |
| 03:47 | 03:47 |
| Final segment of this debate. | Final segment of this debate. |
| What crisis have you faced that suggest you are prepared to be president? | What crisis have you faced that suggest you are prepared to be president? |
| Clinton: ‘There are so many I don’t know where to start.” | Clinton: ‘There are so many I don’t know where to start.” |
| She picks the bin Laden raid. | She picks the bin Laden raid. |
| “The fact that I was part of a very small group that had to advise the president about whether or not to go after Bin Laden. | “The fact that I was part of a very small group that had to advise the president about whether or not to go after Bin Laden. |
| “There was no certainty attached to it. The intelligence was by no means absolute. | “There was no certainty attached to it. The intelligence was by no means absolute. |
| “In the end I recommended to the president to take the chance to do what we could. | “In the end I recommended to the president to take the chance to do what we could. |
| I”t was an excruciating experience, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it.” | I”t was an excruciating experience, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it.” |
| Afterwards, she says, Obama called all the former presidents, including Bill Clinton. Obama told Bill Clinton “I assume Hillary’s told you,” Hillary Clinton says. | Afterwards, she says, Obama called all the former presidents, including Bill Clinton. Obama told Bill Clinton “I assume Hillary’s told you,” Hillary Clinton says. |
| Nope, she hadn’t, she says he said. | Nope, she hadn’t, she says he said. |
| O'Malley: "Damn, naw, I can't beat that." | O'Malley: "Damn, naw, I can't beat that." |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.55am GMT | at 3.55am GMT |