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Democratic debate: candidates spar on terrorism, Wall Street reform, healthcare — as it happened Democratic debate: candidates spar on terrorism, Wall Street reform, healthcare — as it happened
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We’re wrapping up our live politics coverage for the evening. You can read our fresh news coverage of the second Democratic debate here:We’re wrapping up our live politics coverage for the evening. You can read our fresh news coverage of the second Democratic debate here:
Democratic debate: candidates face off on foreign policy in light of Paris attacks.Democratic debate: candidates face off on foreign policy in light of Paris attacks.
For the latest on the Paris attacks and the aftermath, visit our ongoing live coverage here.For the latest on the Paris attacks and the aftermath, visit our ongoing live coverage here.
Thanks for joining us for the debate – good night, or good morning, good day – wherever you may be.Thanks for joining us for the debate – good night, or good morning, good day – wherever you may be.
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The Republicans weren’t wowed by Clinton’s performance, Guardian political reporter Sabrina Siddiqui reports:The Republicans weren’t wowed by Clinton’s performance, Guardian political reporter Sabrina Siddiqui reports:
RNC: "Tonight’s debate reinforced that [Hillary Clinton] is inconsistent on issues, weak on terrorism and beholden to special interests."RNC: "Tonight’s debate reinforced that [Hillary Clinton] is inconsistent on issues, weak on terrorism and beholden to special interests."
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Now that the debate is safely over:Now that the debate is safely over:
And it looks Iowa just put the game away against Minnesota. So now Iowans will finally change the channel and watch #DemDebateAnd it looks Iowa just put the game away against Minnesota. So now Iowans will finally change the channel and watch #DemDebate
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Here are the moments that generated the most conversation on Twitter, via Twitter:Here are the moments that generated the most conversation on Twitter, via Twitter:
And here are a couple fun tracking tools from Google, tracking searches for candidates and for issues:And here are a couple fun tracking tools from Google, tracking searches for candidates and for issues:
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SummarySummary
The second Democratic debate is through. Here’s a summary of what we learned:The second Democratic debate is through. Here’s a summary of what we learned:
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Ben JacobsBen Jacobs
From Washington, political reporter Ben Jacobs writes about one of the more controversial moments of the debate – Hillary Clinton’s recourse to 9/11 while answering a question about Wall Street:From Washington, political reporter Ben Jacobs writes about one of the more controversial moments of the debate – Hillary Clinton’s recourse to 9/11 while answering a question about Wall Street:
Hillary Clinton drew attention on the internet for all the wrong reasons during Saturday night’s debate, after an answer to a question about Wall Street that was so awkward it prompted a follow-up question from Twitter.Hillary Clinton drew attention on the internet for all the wrong reasons during Saturday night’s debate, after an answer to a question about Wall Street that was so awkward it prompted a follow-up question from Twitter.
The former secretary of state responded to an accusation from Senator Bernie Sanders that she was too close to Wall Street by citing the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001. Clinton said: “So I represented New York. I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan, where Wall Street is.”The former secretary of state responded to an accusation from Senator Bernie Sanders that she was too close to Wall Street by citing the terrorist attacks of 11 September 2001. Clinton said: “So I represented New York. I represented New York on 9/11 when we were attacked. Where were we attacked? We were attacked in downtown Manhattan, where Wall Street is.”
The answer provoked outrage on Twitter, where many thought that the former secretary of state was somehow invoking 9/11 to shield herself from criticism. One tweet, from University of Iowa law professor Andy Grewal, was cited by debate moderator Nancy Cordes in a follow up question:The answer provoked outrage on Twitter, where many thought that the former secretary of state was somehow invoking 9/11 to shield herself from criticism. One tweet, from University of Iowa law professor Andy Grewal, was cited by debate moderator Nancy Cordes in a follow up question:
Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebateHave never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebate
Clinton’s answer was an echo of a statement from the previous Democratic debate, in which she made clear that as a senator from New York she had represented all of the Empire State. However, she had not previously referenced the 11 September terrorist attacks.Clinton’s answer was an echo of a statement from the previous Democratic debate, in which she made clear that as a senator from New York she had represented all of the Empire State. However, she had not previously referenced the 11 September terrorist attacks.
The statement prompted attacks both from her Democratic opponents and Republicans. A top aide to long-shot Democrat Martin O’Malley cited her family’s experience in the attack:The statement prompted attacks both from her Democratic opponents and Republicans. A top aide to long-shot Democrat Martin O’Malley cited her family’s experience in the attack:
My dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positionsMy dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positions
On the other side of the divide, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus took to Twitter to express his own outrage:On the other side of the divide, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus took to Twitter to express his own outrage:
.@HillaryClinton, you reached a new low tonight by using 9/11 to defend your campaign donations. #DemDebate.@HillaryClinton, you reached a new low tonight by using 9/11 to defend your campaign donations. #DemDebate
Yet for all her struggles with that answer, at least one observer on Twitter thought Clinton had not had such a bad night – at least in comparison with one other participant…Yet for all her struggles with that answer, at least one observer on Twitter thought Clinton had not had such a bad night – at least in comparison with one other participant…
Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown.Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown.
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Megan CarpentierMegan Carpentier
From our US opinion editor:From our US opinion editor:
It was hard not to notice that for the second time, women’s issues were barely mentioned in the Democratic debate unless Clinton (or, to a lesser degree, her rivals) brought them up.It was hard not to notice that for the second time, women’s issues were barely mentioned in the Democratic debate unless Clinton (or, to a lesser degree, her rivals) brought them up.
The candidates and their moderator made it nearly 90 minutes in (as NY Magazine writer at large Rebecca Traister noted) without even mentioning Planned Parenthood, though federal funding for its non-abortion services nearly caused a government shutdown since the last Democratic debate.The candidates and their moderator made it nearly 90 minutes in (as NY Magazine writer at large Rebecca Traister noted) without even mentioning Planned Parenthood, though federal funding for its non-abortion services nearly caused a government shutdown since the last Democratic debate.
For all that Clinton has tried to make the argument on the stump and in general that “women’s issues” – from birth control and abortion to equal pay and paid family leave – are actually issues that affect both men and women in concrete ways, and for all that Bernie Sanders used Clinton’s framing of those issues during the debate, it’s as though “women’s issues” are still considered “niche”.For all that Clinton has tried to make the argument on the stump and in general that “women’s issues” – from birth control and abortion to equal pay and paid family leave – are actually issues that affect both men and women in concrete ways, and for all that Bernie Sanders used Clinton’s framing of those issues during the debate, it’s as though “women’s issues” are still considered “niche”.
Though women represent half the population of the US, issues that have a disproportionate impact on women still apparently feel “too niche” to be part of a debate in which two of three candidates couldn’t stop saying “Glass-Steagall”, like it was some talisman to ward off the warlocks of Wall Street.Though women represent half the population of the US, issues that have a disproportionate impact on women still apparently feel “too niche” to be part of a debate in which two of three candidates couldn’t stop saying “Glass-Steagall”, like it was some talisman to ward off the warlocks of Wall Street.
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The candidates are leaving the stage, greeting people in the crowd.The candidates are leaving the stage, greeting people in the crowd.
How do you think they did?How do you think they did?
I still need to be convinced that “I’m a baby boomer, like the voters I need” is gonna hurt her. Depends on R. https://t.co/ZKyWqPnniqI still need to be convinced that “I’m a baby boomer, like the voters I need” is gonna hurt her. Depends on R. https://t.co/ZKyWqPnniq
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Some video… at the start of the debate in Des Moines, each candidate was invited to comment on the terrorist attacks in Paris the night before …Some video… at the start of the debate in Des Moines, each candidate was invited to comment on the terrorist attacks in Paris the night before …
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Closing statements.Closing statements.
O’Malley: Our country’s problems can only be addressed with new thinking. We cannot resort to “divisive ideologies” or “polarizing figures” from our past. We need a new foreign policy. There is no challenge too great. New leadership. New new new.O’Malley: Our country’s problems can only be addressed with new thinking. We cannot resort to “divisive ideologies” or “polarizing figures” from our past. We need a new foreign policy. There is no challenge too great. New leadership. New new new.
Clinton: I’ve heard a lot about me in this debate. I’m going to keep talking and thinking about you. “The president’s job is to do everything possible, everything she can do to help lift up” the people of the country. I will work my heart out.Clinton: I’ve heard a lot about me in this debate. I’m going to keep talking and thinking about you. “The president’s job is to do everything possible, everything she can do to help lift up” the people of the country. I will work my heart out.
Sanders: USA has an income and wealth inequality problem. Campaign finance is broke. Health care is broken. We need paid family and medical leave. In order to bring about these changes, we need a political revolution. Turn off the TV, get involved in the political process.Sanders: USA has an income and wealth inequality problem. Campaign finance is broke. Health care is broken. We need paid family and medical leave. In order to bring about these changes, we need a political revolution. Turn off the TV, get involved in the political process.
Bernie Sanders, on TV, tells people to turn off the TV.Bernie Sanders, on TV, tells people to turn off the TV.
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Final segment of this debate.Final segment of this debate.
What crisis have you faced that suggest you are prepared to be president?What crisis have you faced that suggest you are prepared to be president?
Clinton: ‘There are so many I don’t know where to start.”Clinton: ‘There are so many I don’t know where to start.”
She picks the bin Laden raid.She picks the bin Laden raid.
“The fact that I was part of a very small group that had to advise the president about whether or not to go after Bin Laden.“The fact that I was part of a very small group that had to advise the president about whether or not to go after Bin Laden.
“There was no certainty attached to it. The intelligence was by no means absolute.“There was no certainty attached to it. The intelligence was by no means absolute.
“In the end I recommended to the president to take the chance to do what we could.“In the end I recommended to the president to take the chance to do what we could.
I”t was an excruciating experience, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it.”I”t was an excruciating experience, I couldn’t talk to anyone about it.”
Afterwards, she says, Obama called all the former presidents, including Bill Clinton. Obama told Bill Clinton “I assume Hillary’s told you,” Hillary Clinton says.Afterwards, she says, Obama called all the former presidents, including Bill Clinton. Obama told Bill Clinton “I assume Hillary’s told you,” Hillary Clinton says.
Nope, she hadn’t, she says he said.Nope, she hadn’t, she says he said.
O'Malley: "Damn, naw, I can't beat that."O'Malley: "Damn, naw, I can't beat that."
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Not only is O’Malley having to fight from time – he’s taking some tough knocks from the peanut gallery:Not only is O’Malley having to fight from time – he’s taking some tough knocks from the peanut gallery:
Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown.Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O'Malley is a clown.
A response, perhaps, to O’Malley’s line earlier, calling Trump an “immigrant-bashing carnival barker”?A response, perhaps, to O’Malley’s line earlier, calling Trump an “immigrant-bashing carnival barker”?
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Clinton gets applause for saying that “we should be doing everything we can” to defend the affordable care act and improve it.Clinton gets applause for saying that “we should be doing everything we can” to defend the affordable care act and improve it.
Clinton criticizes Sanders’ health care plan for setting up state-by-state administration, which in Iowa would mean a role for the Republican governor.Clinton criticizes Sanders’ health care plan for setting up state-by-state administration, which in Iowa would mean a role for the Republican governor.
“I would not want, if I lived in Iowa, Terry Branstad administering health care,” Clinton says, to strong applause.“I would not want, if I lived in Iowa, Terry Branstad administering health care,” Clinton says, to strong applause.
Commercial break. Once again O’Malley tries to get in a point right before the break and gets shut down. He’s having to fight for time a bit.Commercial break. Once again O’Malley tries to get in a point right before the break and gets shut down. He’s having to fight for time a bit.
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O’Malley gets off a laugh line on the topic of college debt relief. His father went to college on the GI bill, he says, while his daughters went to college on “a mountain of bills.”O’Malley gets off a laugh line on the topic of college debt relief. His father went to college on the GI bill, he says, while his daughters went to college on “a mountain of bills.”
We were proud of them on graduation day but we’re going to be proud every month for the rest of our natural lives.We were proud of them on graduation day but we’re going to be proud every month for the rest of our natural lives.
Laughs.Laughs.
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Clinton says she has met the parents of “Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin, so many of them.”Clinton says she has met the parents of “Eric Garner, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin, so many of them.”
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O’Malley takes a question about race and criminal justice reform. He says that drug sentencing and enforcement are important issues. “Black lives matter,” he says.O’Malley takes a question about race and criminal justice reform. He says that drug sentencing and enforcement are important issues. “Black lives matter,” he says.
Sanders suggests “we take marijuana out of the federal law as a crime.”Sanders suggests “we take marijuana out of the federal law as a crime.”
Clinton is asked about activism at University of Missouri.Clinton is asked about activism at University of Missouri.
“Well John, I come from the sixties. A long time ago. There was a lot of activism on campus... and I do appreciate the way young people are standing up and speaking out.“Well John, I come from the sixties. A long time ago. There was a lot of activism on campus... and I do appreciate the way young people are standing up and speaking out.
“I think reflects the deep sense of concern, even despair, that so many young people, particularly people of color have.”“I think reflects the deep sense of concern, even despair, that so many young people, particularly people of color have.”
"I come from the '60s. Long time ago" was basically the Obama campaign against Clinton"I come from the '60s. Long time ago" was basically the Obama campaign against Clinton
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Clinton: 'Republicans are putting forth alarming plans'Clinton: 'Republicans are putting forth alarming plans'
She gets another question about the emails. Can she assure Democrats that there is not “another shoe about to drop”?She gets another question about the emails. Can she assure Democrats that there is not “another shoe about to drop”?
“I think after 11 hours, that’s pretty clear, yes,” she says, to applause.“I think after 11 hours, that’s pretty clear, yes,” she says, to applause.
Then she hammers Republicans some more.Then she hammers Republicans some more.
“They are putting forth alarming plans,” she says, listing Planned Parenthood, climate change, equal pay for equal work.“They are putting forth alarming plans,” she says, listing Planned Parenthood, climate change, equal pay for equal work.
“They don’t support any of that. Let us focus on what this election is really going to be about.”“They don’t support any of that. Let us focus on what this election is really going to be about.”
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Sanders: 'still sick and tired of Hillary Clinton's emails'Sanders: 'still sick and tired of Hillary Clinton's emails'
Sanders is asked why he commented in the press on Clinton’s emails after saying that he was sick of them. “It’s a media thing,” he says.Sanders is asked why he commented in the press on Clinton’s emails after saying that he was sick of them. “It’s a media thing,” he says.
“I was sick and tired of Hillary Clinton’s emails. I’m still sick and tired of Hillary Clinton’s emails... We’ve gotten off of Hillary’s emails, good. Let’s go to the major issues facing America.”“I was sick and tired of Hillary Clinton’s emails. I’m still sick and tired of Hillary Clinton’s emails... We’ve gotten off of Hillary’s emails, good. Let’s go to the major issues facing America.”
Secretary Clinton, your response?Secretary Clinton, your response?
“I agree completely! I couldn’t have said it better myself.” Big smile.“I agree completely! I couldn’t have said it better myself.” Big smile.
Then she turns the conversation to Republicans, reminding the audience of the general election fight ahead.Then she turns the conversation to Republicans, reminding the audience of the general election fight ahead.
“Look at what’s happening to Republicans. They are doing everything they can to prevent people’s voices being heard,” she says. Then she says Obama “deserves more credit than he gets” for getting a lot done in the face of Republican obstructionism.“Look at what’s happening to Republicans. They are doing everything they can to prevent people’s voices being heard,” she says. Then she says Obama “deserves more credit than he gets” for getting a lot done in the face of Republican obstructionism.
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Sabrina SiddiquiSabrina Siddiqui
From Sabrina Siddiqui in Des Moines:From Sabrina Siddiqui in Des Moines:
Hillary Clinton declined to use the phrase “radical Islam” during the debate.Hillary Clinton declined to use the phrase “radical Islam” during the debate.
The former secretary of state was asked to respond to an assertion by Marco Rubio, one of the top Republican presidential contenders, that recent terrorist attacks in Paris showed “we’re at war with radical Islam”.The former secretary of state was asked to respond to an assertion by Marco Rubio, one of the top Republican presidential contenders, that recent terrorist attacks in Paris showed “we’re at war with radical Islam”.
Asked if she agreed with the Florida senator’s characterization, Clinton said the war was one against “jihadists”.Asked if she agreed with the Florida senator’s characterization, Clinton said the war was one against “jihadists”.
Related: Cruz and Rubio lead Republican charge against Obama over Syria policyRelated: Cruz and Rubio lead Republican charge against Obama over Syria policy
“I don’t think we’re at war with Islam. I don’t think we’re at war with all Muslims,” Clinton said.“I don’t think we’re at war with Islam. I don’t think we’re at war with all Muslims,” Clinton said.
Moderator John Dickerson interrupted Clinton to clarify that Rubio did not say “all Muslims”, but rather “radical Islam”.Moderator John Dickerson interrupted Clinton to clarify that Rubio did not say “all Muslims”, but rather “radical Islam”.
Clinton said there were “Islamists who clearly are also jihadists”. But she added it was “not particularly helpful” for the goal of reaching out to Muslim countries “if they hear people running for president who basically shortcut it to say we are somehow against Islam”.Clinton said there were “Islamists who clearly are also jihadists”. But she added it was “not particularly helpful” for the goal of reaching out to Muslim countries “if they hear people running for president who basically shortcut it to say we are somehow against Islam”.
“We’ve got to have them be part of our coalition,” Clinton said.“We’ve got to have them be part of our coalition,” Clinton said.
She went on to praise President George W Bush for his memorable visit to a mosque just days after the 9/11 attacks, where he declared the US was “not at war with Islam or Muslims [but] at war with violent extremism”.She went on to praise President George W Bush for his memorable visit to a mosque just days after the 9/11 attacks, where he declared the US was “not at war with Islam or Muslims [but] at war with violent extremism”.
“I don’t want us to be painting with too broad a brush,” Clinton said.“I don’t want us to be painting with too broad a brush,” Clinton said.
Clinton’s response put her mostly in line with Barack Obama, who has rejected the phrase “radical Islam”. Using the term, the president has argued, grants terrorists a legitimacy as religious leaders that they do not deserve. Unlike Clinton, however, Obama also does not use the phrase “jihadists”.Clinton’s response put her mostly in line with Barack Obama, who has rejected the phrase “radical Islam”. Using the term, the president has argued, grants terrorists a legitimacy as religious leaders that they do not deserve. Unlike Clinton, however, Obama also does not use the phrase “jihadists”.
Republican presidential candidates, including Rubio, have sharply criticized the president for refusing to say the words “radical Islam”.Republican presidential candidates, including Rubio, have sharply criticized the president for refusing to say the words “radical Islam”.
After Clinton’s debate answer, an aide to Rubio’s campaign quickly tweeted: “.@marcorubio talked about clash of civilizations today youtu.be/q8qa2ZRaOmc and tonight @HillaryClinton can’t even say “radical Islam”.After Clinton’s debate answer, an aide to Rubio’s campaign quickly tweeted: “.@marcorubio talked about clash of civilizations today youtu.be/q8qa2ZRaOmc and tonight @HillaryClinton can’t even say “radical Islam”.
Former Florida governor Jeb Bush also responded with a tweet: “Yes, we are at war with radical Islamic terrorism. #DemDebate”.Former Florida governor Jeb Bush also responded with a tweet: “Yes, we are at war with radical Islamic terrorism. #DemDebate”.
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They’re back. Question for Sanders. How do you deal with the so-called conservative revolution?They’re back. Question for Sanders. How do you deal with the so-called conservative revolution?
Sanders says that his issues would draw a larger coalition. “Every one of those issues is supported by a significant majority of the American people” but Congress is not listening because instead it serves the “moneyed interests.”Sanders says that his issues would draw a larger coalition. “Every one of those issues is supported by a significant majority of the American people” but Congress is not listening because instead it serves the “moneyed interests.”
“What the political revolution is about is bringing people together to finally say enough is enough.”“What the political revolution is about is bringing people together to finally say enough is enough.”
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Commercial. Only 40 minutes left now.Commercial. Only 40 minutes left now.
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Clinton is confronted about her Wall Street - 9/11 answer, via a selection from Twitter. This, from an Iowa U professor of law:Clinton is confronted about her Wall Street - 9/11 answer, via a selection from Twitter. This, from an Iowa U professor of law:
Have never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebateHave never seen a candidate invoke 9/11 to justify millions of Wall Street donations. Until now. @HillaryClinton #DemDebate
“I’m sorry that whoever tweeted that had that impression,” Clinton says. She repeats the explanation for the donations.“I’m sorry that whoever tweeted that had that impression,” Clinton says. She repeats the explanation for the donations.
Hillary Clinton's answer seems to be I am pro Wall Street because 9/11Hillary Clinton's answer seems to be I am pro Wall Street because 9/11
Update: sharp retort from O’Malley’s deputy campaign manager:Update: sharp retort from O’Malley’s deputy campaign manager:
My dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positionsMy dad worked in WTC from the day it was built to the day it went down. @HillaryClinton, never invoke 9/11 to justify your Wall St positions
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Clinton takes a question about gun laws and says the country needs to “take on the gun lobby”, institute universal background checks, and close the gun show loophole.Clinton takes a question about gun laws and says the country needs to “take on the gun lobby”, institute universal background checks, and close the gun show loophole.
Clinton challenges Sanders to admit a mistake in voting against immunity for gun manufacturers. “I said I made a mistake on Iraq, and I would love to see senator Sanders join some of my colleagues that I see in the audience,” she says. “I have voted time and again for the background check, and I want to see it improve and expanded.”Clinton challenges Sanders to admit a mistake in voting against immunity for gun manufacturers. “I said I made a mistake on Iraq, and I would love to see senator Sanders join some of my colleagues that I see in the audience,” she says. “I have voted time and again for the background check, and I want to see it improve and expanded.”
Sanders says, “I don’t know that there’s any disagreement here.”Sanders says, “I don’t know that there’s any disagreement here.”
O’Malley says, oh yes there is. He says both Clinton and Sanders are not strong enough on guns.O’Malley says, oh yes there is. He says both Clinton and Sanders are not strong enough on guns.
Sanders retorts that Baltimore is “not the safest city.” It just notched its 300th homicide of the year.Sanders retorts that Baltimore is “not the safest city.” It just notched its 300th homicide of the year.
! Sanders to O'Malley: "I think it's fair to say that Baltimore is not one of the safest cities in America."! Sanders to O'Malley: "I think it's fair to say that Baltimore is not one of the safest cities in America."
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Megan CarpentierMegan Carpentier
From our US opinion editor:From our US opinion editor:
In the first fiery disagreement of the night – no one argued with O’Malley’s assertion that Donald Trump is an “immigrant-bashing carnival barker” – Sanders and O’Malley sparred over the plan to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and Clinton’s offer of $12 an hour indexed to wage levels.In the first fiery disagreement of the night – no one argued with O’Malley’s assertion that Donald Trump is an “immigrant-bashing carnival barker” – Sanders and O’Malley sparred over the plan to raise the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour and Clinton’s offer of $12 an hour indexed to wage levels.
But it was Sanders’ reference to Princeton labor economist and minimum wage expert Alan Krueger as “a Wall Street guy” that kicked off – after a commercial break, speaking of who sponsors politics – a discussion on Clinton’s Wall Street ties, during which Sanders said that the bankers donate to her because they “know what they will get” and brought up his small-dollar donors.Clinton got heated and fought back, citing her “60% female donors”. O’Malley quoted others calling Clinton’s Wall Street reform program “weak tea”.But it was Sanders’ reference to Princeton labor economist and minimum wage expert Alan Krueger as “a Wall Street guy” that kicked off – after a commercial break, speaking of who sponsors politics – a discussion on Clinton’s Wall Street ties, during which Sanders said that the bankers donate to her because they “know what they will get” and brought up his small-dollar donors.Clinton got heated and fought back, citing her “60% female donors”. O’Malley quoted others calling Clinton’s Wall Street reform program “weak tea”.
The “immigrant-bashing carnival barker” line was better – but at least nobody called Clinton “shrill”.The “immigrant-bashing carnival barker” line was better – but at least nobody called Clinton “shrill”.
Oh. Never mind.Oh. Never mind.
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O’Malley says that Clinton’s Wall Street and big banks reform plan was “weak tea”. Hits her for the Clinton appointments of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers.O’Malley says that Clinton’s Wall Street and big banks reform plan was “weak tea”. Hits her for the Clinton appointments of Robert Rubin and Larry Summers.
Clinton replies that O’Malley appointed an investment banker as an adviser too, and insists she would be tough on big banks.Clinton replies that O’Malley appointed an investment banker as an adviser too, and insists she would be tough on big banks.
“If the big banks ... don’t play by the rules, I will break them up. And I will also go after the executive s...” she says.“If the big banks ... don’t play by the rules, I will break them up. And I will also go after the executive s...” she says.
Sanders ridicules the idea that Wall Street might not be breaking the law: “The business model of Wall Street is fraud, that’s what it is!”Sanders ridicules the idea that Wall Street might not be breaking the law: “The business model of Wall Street is fraud, that’s what it is!”
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Clinton and Sanders trade blows on Wall Street and big donorsClinton and Sanders trade blows on Wall Street and big donors
Sanders is asked what he thinks of Clinton’s answer on Wall Street.Sanders is asked what he thinks of Clinton’s answer on Wall Street.
He hits her hard.He hits her hard.
“Not good enough.“Not good enough.
“Why do, over her political career has Wall Street been the major donor to Hillary Clinton. Maybe they’re dumb, but I don’t think so.“Why do, over her political career has Wall Street been the major donor to Hillary Clinton. Maybe they’re dumb, but I don’t think so.
Break them up. Re-establish Glass Steagall. “I will break up these banks.”Break them up. Re-establish Glass Steagall. “I will break up these banks.”
“I have never heard a candidate, ever, who receives huge amounts of money... who says ‘these campaign contributions will not influence me.’ Everybody knows that.”“I have never heard a candidate, ever, who receives huge amounts of money... who says ‘these campaign contributions will not influence me.’ Everybody knows that.”
Then Clinton hits him back. Hard!Then Clinton hits him back. Hard!
“He has basically used his answer to impugn my integrity,” she says.“He has basically used his answer to impugn my integrity,” she says.
Then she says she also has hundreds of thousands of donors – small donors, not just big ones.Then she says she also has hundreds of thousands of donors – small donors, not just big ones.
“For the first time, a majority of my donors are women, 60%,” she says – big applause. Then she says she took donations from Wall Street because she was rebuilding it after 9/11.“For the first time, a majority of my donors are women, 60%,” she says – big applause. Then she says she took donations from Wall Street because she was rebuilding it after 9/11.
“I represented New York and I represented New York on 9/11,” she says. “I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild.”“I represented New York and I represented New York on 9/11,” she says. “I did spend a whole lot of time and effort helping them rebuild.”
Her voice rises. The crowd claps. It sounds like a successful turn of Sanders’ charge, as far as the audience is concerned.Her voice rises. The crowd claps. It sounds like a successful turn of Sanders’ charge, as far as the audience is concerned.
Good debate.Good debate.
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Clinton is asked, again, about speaking fees she has taken from Wall Street.Clinton is asked, again, about speaking fees she has taken from Wall Street.
“You’ve got two billionaire hedge fund managers who started a Super PAC and they’re advertising against me in Iowa as we speak,” she says.“You’ve got two billionaire hedge fund managers who started a Super PAC and they’re advertising against me in Iowa as we speak,” she says.
“I’ve laid out a very aggressive plan to rein in Wall Street,” she says. She says her plan is “much more comprehensive” than the others.“I’ve laid out a very aggressive plan to rein in Wall Street,” she says. She says her plan is “much more comprehensive” than the others.
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O’Malley sparked some Internet curiosity, according to Google Trends’ real-time tracker tool. (Part of his search traffic would be attributable to the fact that he is relatively little-known.)O’Malley sparked some Internet curiosity, according to Google Trends’ real-time tracker tool. (Part of his search traffic would be attributable to the fact that he is relatively little-known.)
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Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts reflects on the exchange on the economy:Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts reflects on the exchange on the economy:
O’Malley and Sanders are much more comfortable on the economy than Clinton, where they have more radical platforms. It is noticeable however that she refuses to get drawn into their competitive promises on higher taxes – almost certainly a sign she has her eye on the general election now rather than just the primary.O’Malley and Sanders are much more comfortable on the economy than Clinton, where they have more radical platforms. It is noticeable however that she refuses to get drawn into their competitive promises on higher taxes – almost certainly a sign she has her eye on the general election now rather than just the primary.
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Clinton gets in. She says that the questioner misrepresents the research she cited to show that a higher minimum wage could hurt employment.Clinton gets in. She says that the questioner misrepresents the research she cited to show that a higher minimum wage could hurt employment.
“If you go to $12 it would be the highest historical average we’ve ever had.”“If you go to $12 it would be the highest historical average we’ve ever had.”
Everybody is talking at once. It’s a true nerd smackdown on the minimum wage. Real electricity from all three on the issue. Dickerson takes it to commercial.Everybody is talking at once. It’s a true nerd smackdown on the minimum wage. Real electricity from all three on the issue. Dickerson takes it to commercial.
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Sanders is pressed on his call to raised the minimum wage, asked about the possibility of lost jobs from raising the federal minimum wage of $7.25 to $15.Sanders is pressed on his call to raised the minimum wage, asked about the possibility of lost jobs from raising the federal minimum wage of $7.25 to $15.
“I believe that this country needs to move toward a living wage,” Sanders says. “It is not a radical idea to somebody working 40 hours a week should not be living in poverty.”“I believe that this country needs to move toward a living wage,” Sanders says. “It is not a radical idea to somebody working 40 hours a week should not be living in poverty.”
He says the wage should be $15 “and I apologize to no one for that.”He says the wage should be $15 “and I apologize to no one for that.”
He’s pressed on the risk of job loss. He says the reason unemployment is high is that the average worker has no disposable income.He’s pressed on the risk of job loss. He says the reason unemployment is high is that the average worker has no disposable income.
“Put money in the hands of working people. Raise the minimum wage to $15,” he says.“Put money in the hands of working people. Raise the minimum wage to $15,” he says.
O’Malley jumps in and says Maryland was the first state to pass a minimum wage law – it was raised to $10.10. He agrees that if the middle class makes more money they will spend more.O’Malley jumps in and says Maryland was the first state to pass a minimum wage law – it was raised to $10.10. He agrees that if the middle class makes more money they will spend more.
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Clinton says Obama’s executive actions are legal according to her reading of the constitution and supreme court choices.Clinton says Obama’s executive actions are legal according to her reading of the constitution and supreme court choices.
“Net immigration from Mexico and south has basically zeroed out,” she says.“Net immigration from Mexico and south has basically zeroed out,” she says.
“Let’s move toward what we should be doing as a nation, and follow the values of our immigration history, and make it possible for them to come out of the shadows.”“Let’s move toward what we should be doing as a nation, and follow the values of our immigration history, and make it possible for them to come out of the shadows.”
Applause.Applause.
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O'Malley: Trump an 'immigrant-bashing carnival barker'O'Malley: Trump an 'immigrant-bashing carnival barker'
They’re back. O’Malley takes a question about immigration and border security.They’re back. O’Malley takes a question about immigration and border security.
“We’ve been focusing on border security to the exclusion of talking about comprehensive immigration reform,” he says.“We’ve been focusing on border security to the exclusion of talking about comprehensive immigration reform,” he says.
Then O’Malley refers to “that immigrant-bashing carnival barker Donald Trump,” who would never, he says, admit a basic truth:Then O’Malley refers to “that immigrant-bashing carnival barker Donald Trump,” who would never, he says, admit a basic truth:
The truth of the matter is net immigration from Mexico last year was zero.The truth of the matter is net immigration from Mexico last year was zero.
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Second commercial break. Fast-moving, substantive debate, with the heavily briefed candidates helping the moderators and audience limn their policy differences.Second commercial break. Fast-moving, substantive debate, with the heavily briefed candidates helping the moderators and audience limn their policy differences.
2.46am GMT02:46 9.46pm ET02:46
Megan CarpentierMegan Carpentier
From our US Opinion editor:From our US Opinion editor:
The thing about being president is that you can’t just focus on one thing in the world: you have to be looking at everything, all the time – or have people who do, and then get your attention. You can’t argue against going all-in on national security policy because it’s inconvenient, or because you aren’t prepared, which is essentially what Bernie Sanders’ team reportedly did today.The thing about being president is that you can’t just focus on one thing in the world: you have to be looking at everything, all the time – or have people who do, and then get your attention. You can’t argue against going all-in on national security policy because it’s inconvenient, or because you aren’t prepared, which is essentially what Bernie Sanders’ team reportedly did today.
Call her a technocrat, call her Tracy Flick, call her the former secretary of state with an advantage in a foreign policy debate by sheer virtue of having run the United States’ foreign policy for years, but the first 30 minutes of Saturday night’s debate was Hillary Clinton’s to lose, and she didn’t.Call her a technocrat, call her Tracy Flick, call her the former secretary of state with an advantage in a foreign policy debate by sheer virtue of having run the United States’ foreign policy for years, but the first 30 minutes of Saturday night’s debate was Hillary Clinton’s to lose, and she didn’t.
Sanders sounded like a lefty college professor talking about foreign policy from an ideological or theoretical perspective (overthrowing Allende led to unintended consequences, the Cold War is over so we should reduce our nuclear arsenal) and Clinton sounded like a presidential candidate who could keep an eye on military activity in the South China Sea and Isis in Iraq and Syria and still manage our relationships in Latin America.Sanders sounded like a lefty college professor talking about foreign policy from an ideological or theoretical perspective (overthrowing Allende led to unintended consequences, the Cold War is over so we should reduce our nuclear arsenal) and Clinton sounded like a presidential candidate who could keep an eye on military activity in the South China Sea and Isis in Iraq and Syria and still manage our relationships in Latin America.
Martin O’Malley was pretty good, too – credible, realistic and less rehearsed than in previous debates.Martin O’Malley was pretty good, too – credible, realistic and less rehearsed than in previous debates.
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Clinton says: “I want to build on and improve the Affordable Care Act.” She says the “cost issue” needs to be addressed, by injecting more competition in the market.Clinton says: “I want to build on and improve the Affordable Care Act.” She says the “cost issue” needs to be addressed, by injecting more competition in the market.
“There’s a significant difference that I have with senator Sanders of how best to provide health care to everyone.”“There’s a significant difference that I have with senator Sanders of how best to provide health care to everyone.”
Sanders says “we have made some good progress. Now what we have to take on is the pharmaceutical industry that is ripping off Americans every single day.”Sanders says “we have made some good progress. Now what we have to take on is the pharmaceutical industry that is ripping off Americans every single day.”
“At the end of the day the ACA is, no doubt, a step forward.”“At the end of the day the ACA is, no doubt, a step forward.”
First applause line of the night for anyone, from Sanders:First applause line of the night for anyone, from Sanders:
“I want to end the embarrassment of being the only developed country on earth not to provide affordable health care as a right, not a privilege.“I want to end the embarrassment of being the only developed country on earth not to provide affordable health care as a right, not a privilege.
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Sanders: 'I’m not that much of a socialist as Eisenhower' on taxesSanders: 'I’m not that much of a socialist as Eisenhower' on taxes
Sanders is asked how free college and infrastructure spending could be funded.Sanders is asked how free college and infrastructure spending could be funded.
He says in the last 30 years there has been a “massive redistribution of wealth ... in a wrong direction.”He says in the last 30 years there has been a “massive redistribution of wealth ... in a wrong direction.”
“I do believe that we must end corporate loopholes ... Yes I do believe there must be a tax on Wall Street speculation ... We pay for us by demanding that the wealthiest people and corporations that have gotten away with murder for years and it’s time for them to pay their fair share.”“I do believe that we must end corporate loopholes ... Yes I do believe there must be a tax on Wall Street speculation ... We pay for us by demanding that the wealthiest people and corporations that have gotten away with murder for years and it’s time for them to pay their fair share.”
He’s pressed on what his top tax bracket rate would be.He’s pressed on what his top tax bracket rate would be.
“It will not be as high as the number of Dwight D Eisenhower, which was 90%,” he says. “I’m not that much of a socialist as Eisenhower.”“It will not be as high as the number of Dwight D Eisenhower, which was 90%,” he says. “I’m not that much of a socialist as Eisenhower.”
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Dan RobertsDan Roberts
Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts, at the scene, submits this analysis of the exchanges on national security:Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts, at the scene, submits this analysis of the exchanges on national security:
After a shaky start, Sanders is showing that he can challenge Clinton on foreign policy – most effectively by focusing on her record of interventionism in Iraq and Libya. The former of secretary of state, meanwhile, is scoring points over him by showing a more nuanced understanding of world events – correcting Sanders over Jordan and tactical Russian nuclear weapons.After a shaky start, Sanders is showing that he can challenge Clinton on foreign policy – most effectively by focusing on her record of interventionism in Iraq and Libya. The former of secretary of state, meanwhile, is scoring points over him by showing a more nuanced understanding of world events – correcting Sanders over Jordan and tactical Russian nuclear weapons.
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The national security portion of the evening is over, after about a half hour.The national security portion of the evening is over, after about a half hour.
Clinton takes a question about who would pay for paid family leave and health care breaks.Clinton takes a question about who would pay for paid family leave and health care breaks.
“First of all it isn’t the middle class,” Clinton says. She says wages are stagnant. “I will pay for it by yes, taxing the wealthy more, closing corporate loopholes and deductions ... and I can do it without raising the debt, raising the taxes on the middle class.”“First of all it isn’t the middle class,” Clinton says. She says wages are stagnant. “I will pay for it by yes, taxing the wealthy more, closing corporate loopholes and deductions ... and I can do it without raising the debt, raising the taxes on the middle class.”
Then Clinton decries expensive drugs in the US. “We’re going to have to redo the way the prescription drug company does business,” she says.Then Clinton decries expensive drugs in the US. “We’re going to have to redo the way the prescription drug company does business,” she says.
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Commercial break. A quick first tranche in which neither Sanders nor O’Malley gave ground to Clinton as a potential commander-in-chief – and in fact at moments sounded more eager than she to get into a new fight.Commercial break. A quick first tranche in which neither Sanders nor O’Malley gave ground to Clinton as a potential commander-in-chief – and in fact at moments sounded more eager than she to get into a new fight.
Clinton’s Twitter, meanwhile, is live-tweeting her remarks in Spanish:Clinton’s Twitter, meanwhile, is live-tweeting her remarks in Spanish:
Esta elección no solo se trata de elegir a un presidente—también se trata de elegir a un comandante en jefe. —Hillary #DemDebateEsta elección no solo se trata de elegir a un presidente—también se trata de elegir a un comandante en jefe. —Hillary #DemDebate
Updated at 2.53am GMT Updated at 9.53pm ET
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O'Malley calls for accepting 65,000 Syrian refugeesO'Malley calls for accepting 65,000 Syrian refugees
Both Sanders and O’Malley stand by their calls on the United States to accept new Syrian refugees.Both Sanders and O’Malley stand by their calls on the United States to accept new Syrian refugees.
“I think the United States should keep its full responsibility,” Sanders says.“I think the United States should keep its full responsibility,” Sanders says.
O’Malley calls for accepting 65,000 new Syrian refugees, with proper security vetting.O’Malley calls for accepting 65,000 new Syrian refugees, with proper security vetting.
2.30am GMT02:30 9.30pm ET02:30
Clinton says no new war declaration required to fight IsisClinton says no new war declaration required to fight Isis
Clinton says that the authorization to use military force to fight al-Qaeda, passed after the 9/11 attacks, would cover a new fight against Isis.Clinton says that the authorization to use military force to fight al-Qaeda, passed after the 9/11 attacks, would cover a new fight against Isis.
“It certainly does cover it,” Clinton says. “I would like to see it updated ... Maybe now we can get it moving again, so that we can upgrade it.”“It certainly does cover it,” Clinton says. “I would like to see it updated ... Maybe now we can get it moving again, so that we can upgrade it.”
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Clinton: 'We are not at war with Islam or Muslims'Clinton: 'We are not at war with Islam or Muslims'
Sanders says that if the candidates are talking about war, they should “talk about the long-term consequences of war”, including veterans returning wounded or with PTSD.Sanders says that if the candidates are talking about war, they should “talk about the long-term consequences of war”, including veterans returning wounded or with PTSD.
Then Clinton is asked about Rubio’s characterization of the conflict as a clash of civilizations.Then Clinton is asked about Rubio’s characterization of the conflict as a clash of civilizations.
“I don’t think we’re at war with Islam, I don’t think we’re at war with all Muslims,” Clinton says. “You can talk about Islamists who are clearly also jihadists. I don’t think it’s particularly helpful ... to say that we are somehow against Islam.”“I don’t think we’re at war with Islam, I don’t think we’re at war with all Muslims,” Clinton says. “You can talk about Islamists who are clearly also jihadists. I don’t think it’s particularly helpful ... to say that we are somehow against Islam.”
She praises president George W Bush for declaring after the September 11 attacks that the US was not at war with Islam.She praises president George W Bush for declaring after the September 11 attacks that the US was not at war with Islam.
“We are not at war with Islam or Muslims,” Clinton says. “We are at war with violent extremism.”“We are not at war with Islam or Muslims,” Clinton says. “We are at war with violent extremism.”
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Clinton is asked whether she repeated the mistake of her Iraq vote – she has called it that – by backing regime change in Libya.Clinton is asked whether she repeated the mistake of her Iraq vote – she has called it that – by backing regime change in Libya.
She says that there was a plan in place for Libya but that the course of events on the ground and limits of the coalition plan, and a changing security situation, produced a different result.She says that there was a plan in place for Libya but that the course of events on the ground and limits of the coalition plan, and a changing security situation, produced a different result.
O’Malley calls for more development in the Middle East and Afghanistan.O’Malley calls for more development in the Middle East and Afghanistan.
Clinton says that might work so well. “Just because we are involved does not mean we will be able to dictate the outcome.”Clinton says that might work so well. “Just because we are involved does not mean we will be able to dictate the outcome.”
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Sanders finds a perhaps surprisingly aggressive lane in this debate. He has Clinton explaining her Iraq vote instead of her sliding into a commander-in-chief role to describe what the United States must do.Sanders finds a perhaps surprisingly aggressive lane in this debate. He has Clinton explaining her Iraq vote instead of her sliding into a commander-in-chief role to describe what the United States must do.
Sanders says that Arab and regional allies must do more to fight extremism in the region.Sanders says that Arab and regional allies must do more to fight extremism in the region.
Clinton then makes a strong point, saying Sanders is selling Jordan short. She makes a strong call on Turkey to decide where it stands in the fight against jihadist terror elements.Clinton then makes a strong point, saying Sanders is selling Jordan short. She makes a strong call on Turkey to decide where it stands in the fight against jihadist terror elements.
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Sanders: 'The invasion of Iraq led to the massive instability that we are seeing right now'Sanders: 'The invasion of Iraq led to the massive instability that we are seeing right now'
Sanders is up. Does he still think climate change is the greatest threat to national security?Sanders is up. Does he still think climate change is the greatest threat to national security?
“Absolutely,” Sanders says. “Climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism.”“Absolutely,” Sanders says. “Climate change is directly related to the growth of terrorism.”
Then he hits Clinton, objecting to Clinton’s statement that the USA is not essentially responsible. He says the invasion of Iraq destroyed the fabric of regional security.Then he hits Clinton, objecting to Clinton’s statement that the USA is not essentially responsible. He says the invasion of Iraq destroyed the fabric of regional security.
“I don’t think any sensible person would disagree that the invasion of Iraq led to the massive instability that we are seeing right now,” Sanders says.“I don’t think any sensible person would disagree that the invasion of Iraq led to the massive instability that we are seeing right now,” Sanders says.
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O’Malley steps up. He says he disagrees with Clinton. “This actually is America’s fight.” He calls Isis “evil”, and says “our role in the world is to confront evil when it arises”.O’Malley steps up. He says he disagrees with Clinton. “This actually is America’s fight.” He calls Isis “evil”, and says “our role in the world is to confront evil when it arises”.
“We must rise to this occasion,” he says. He calls for much better human intelligence.“We must rise to this occasion,” he says. He calls for much better human intelligence.
O’Malley manages to be more bellicose than Clinton.O’Malley manages to be more bellicose than Clinton.
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Clinton: 'I don’t think that the United States has the bulk of the responsibility'Clinton: 'I don’t think that the United States has the bulk of the responsibility'
Dickerson presses ClintonDickerson presses Clinton
Clinton said that the Iraqi army “was prepared to defend Iraq” when the Obama administration left, but premier Nouri al-Maliki decimated the army. Then the Syrian conflict erupted.Clinton said that the Iraqi army “was prepared to defend Iraq” when the Obama administration left, but premier Nouri al-Maliki decimated the army. Then the Syrian conflict erupted.
“I don’t think that the United States has the bulk of the responsibility. I really put that on Assad, and on Maliki, and on the region itself.”“I don’t think that the United States has the bulk of the responsibility. I really put that on Assad, and on Maliki, and on the region itself.”
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2.10am GMT02:10 9.10pm ET02:10
Clinton: 'This cannot be an American fight'Clinton: 'This cannot be an American fight'
First question is for Clinton. Did Obama underestimate Isis?First question is for Clinton. Did Obama underestimate Isis?
Clinton: Isis is the leading threat of an international network. “It cannot be contained it must be defeated.”Clinton: Isis is the leading threat of an international network. “It cannot be contained it must be defeated.”
If we summon all of our resources, not just military force, “which must be used as a last resort”, that we can bring people together.If we summon all of our resources, not just military force, “which must be used as a last resort”, that we can bring people together.
But it cannot be an American fight ... we will support those who will take the fight to Isis.But it cannot be an American fight ... we will support those who will take the fight to Isis.
Updated at 2.50am GMT Updated at 9.50pm ET
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Opening statements.Opening statements.
Sanders: We’re shocked and disgusted by what we saw in Paris. This country will rid our planet of Isis. I travel the country talking to people and they say the economy is rigged. Campaign finance is corrupt. Join the political revolution.Sanders: We’re shocked and disgusted by what we saw in Paris. This country will rid our planet of Isis. I travel the country talking to people and they say the economy is rigged. Campaign finance is corrupt. Join the political revolution.
Clinton: Our prayers are with the people of France. But that is not enough. We need to have a resolve that will bring the world together to root out the kind of radical jihadist ideology that motivates organizations like Isis. I will be laying out in detail what I think we need to do. To do a better job of coordinating efforts against the scourge of terrorism.Clinton: Our prayers are with the people of France. But that is not enough. We need to have a resolve that will bring the world together to root out the kind of radical jihadist ideology that motivates organizations like Isis. I will be laying out in detail what I think we need to do. To do a better job of coordinating efforts against the scourge of terrorism.
O’Malley: My heart goes out to the people of France in this moment of loss. Parents and sons and daughters. We must remember this. This is a new face of conflict and warfare. We must anticipate these threats. It requires new thinking and fresh leadership. As a mayor and governor I thought of the threat of a surprise attack every day.O’Malley: My heart goes out to the people of France in this moment of loss. Parents and sons and daughters. We must remember this. This is a new face of conflict and warfare. We must anticipate these threats. It requires new thinking and fresh leadership. As a mayor and governor I thought of the threat of a surprise attack every day.
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2.03am GMT02:03 9.03pm ET02:03
Dickerson has a diplomatically bipartisan tie – red and blue stripes.Dickerson has a diplomatically bipartisan tie – red and blue stripes.
#demdebate. @CBS Moderator and host of Face the Nation John Dickerson. pic.twitter.com/1wXkpOqjOI#demdebate. @CBS Moderator and host of Face the Nation John Dickerson. pic.twitter.com/1wXkpOqjOI
And immediately: commercial break.And immediately: commercial break.
Updated at 2.04am GMT Updated at 9.04pm ET
2.01am GMT02:01 9.01pm ET02:01
CBS opens its broadcast with John Dickerson, the host, asking for a moment of silence.CBS opens its broadcast with John Dickerson, the host, asking for a moment of silence.
“The debate you’ve tuned in to see tonight is a symbol of the freedom we all cherish,” he says.“The debate you’ve tuned in to see tonight is a symbol of the freedom we all cherish,” he says.
The three candidates are already on stage. They stand with heads bowed. Then they are introduced and applauded.The three candidates are already on stage. They stand with heads bowed. Then they are introduced and applauded.
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The debate is about to begin. We expect at least 20 minutes at the top about national security, counter-terrorism and the Paris attacks.The debate is about to begin. We expect at least 20 minutes at the top about national security, counter-terrorism and the Paris attacks.
The remainder of the debate is expected to run to topics including wealth inequality, health care and other core Democratic issues.The remainder of the debate is expected to run to topics including wealth inequality, health care and other core Democratic issues.
The Bernie Sanders campaign reportedly argued against a reorganization of the debate to begin with a relatively lengthy discussion of national security issues – but lost the argument.The Bernie Sanders campaign reportedly argued against a reorganization of the debate to begin with a relatively lengthy discussion of national security issues – but lost the argument.
It's kind of funny that after being penned into a debate at 9 o'clock on a Saturday, Sanders is the one who ends up looking badIt's kind of funny that after being penned into a debate at 9 o'clock on a Saturday, Sanders is the one who ends up looking bad
Even Bernie Sanders' top strategist says Clinton has a "huge advantage" on national security. https://t.co/RiXQtnZde6Even Bernie Sanders' top strategist says Clinton has a "huge advantage" on national security. https://t.co/RiXQtnZde6
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1.39am GMT01:39 8.39pm ET01:39
Google Trends is tracking real-time search interest in each candidate:Google Trends is tracking real-time search interest in each candidate:
1.30am GMT01:30 8.30pm ET01:30
The O’Malley campaign tweets a backstage shot:The O’Malley campaign tweets a backstage shot:
.@MartinOMalley prepping backstage for #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/q4WBTJ3Ng8.@MartinOMalley prepping backstage for #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/q4WBTJ3Ng8
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The crowd gathers in Des Moines. Via the Des Moines Register:The crowd gathers in Des Moines. Via the Des Moines Register:
Dem heavyweights in #Demdebate crowd include US Sens Claire McCaskill and Amy Klobuchar, philosopher Cornel West, strategist Donna Brazille.Dem heavyweights in #Demdebate crowd include US Sens Claire McCaskill and Amy Klobuchar, philosopher Cornel West, strategist Donna Brazille.
Democrats will discuss the economy, national security, higher education and more. Tune in. #DemDebate. @CBSNews. pic.twitter.com/zeSpL6VkYaDemocrats will discuss the economy, national security, higher education and more. Tune in. #DemDebate. @CBSNews. pic.twitter.com/zeSpL6VkYa
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Olivier Knox of Yahoo News poses five questions about Paris for Clinton, Sanders and O’Malley. Question 1:Olivier Knox of Yahoo News poses five questions about Paris for Clinton, Sanders and O’Malley. Question 1:
1. How would your approach to the Islamic State differ from President Obama’s?1. How would your approach to the Islamic State differ from President Obama’s?
This is a question about policy, but it has significant political ramifications.This is a question about policy, but it has significant political ramifications.
Hillary Clinton has already found some daylight between herself and the White House on foreign policy on Syria. She has called for no-fly zones and humanitarian corridors, options that Obama has rejected for years.Hillary Clinton has already found some daylight between herself and the White House on foreign policy on Syria. She has called for no-fly zones and humanitarian corridors, options that Obama has rejected for years.
Clinton may be mindful that securing a third term for the party in the White House is historically unlikely: In recent decades, only George H. W. Bush has succeeded. Clinton has forcefully rejected the idea that she would bring about Obama’s third term — or Bill Clinton’s. But showing is more powerful than telling.Clinton may be mindful that securing a third term for the party in the White House is historically unlikely: In recent decades, only George H. W. Bush has succeeded. Clinton has forcefully rejected the idea that she would bring about Obama’s third term — or Bill Clinton’s. But showing is more powerful than telling.
To date, her rhetoric on Obama’s domestic agenda has often sounded like “the same, but more of it.” [...]To date, her rhetoric on Obama’s domestic agenda has often sounded like “the same, but more of it.” [...]
Question 2 is, Will you promise to be more like President George W Bush? Read the full piece here.Question 2 is, Will you promise to be more like President George W Bush? Read the full piece here.
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Why are the Democrats holding this debate on a Saturday night, when fewer people are likely to watch?Why are the Democrats holding this debate on a Saturday night, when fewer people are likely to watch?
The Democratic forum last week fell on a Friday night.The Democratic forum last week fell on a Friday night.
The next Democratic debate is the Saturday before Christmas, and after that there’s one on the Sunday of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday weekend, Politico’s Hadas Gold points out:The next Democratic debate is the Saturday before Christmas, and after that there’s one on the Sunday of the Martin Luther King Jr. holiday weekend, Politico’s Hadas Gold points out:
In an interview, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said the weekend dates are because four of the DNC’s six debates are on broadcast networks, which are hesitant to move blockbuster prime-time shows like “NCIS” or “Scandal” — with guaranteed high ad dollars — in favor of a debate.In an interview, Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said the weekend dates are because four of the DNC’s six debates are on broadcast networks, which are hesitant to move blockbuster prime-time shows like “NCIS” or “Scandal” — with guaranteed high ad dollars — in favor of a debate.
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Critics have charged that the limited schedule protects Clinton, who has been bogged down by drama surrounding the homebrew email server she used in lieu of an official government email account during her time as secretary of state, by limiting exposure to her rivals.Critics have charged that the limited schedule protects Clinton, who has been bogged down by drama surrounding the homebrew email server she used in lieu of an official government email account during her time as secretary of state, by limiting exposure to her rivals.
Read the full piece here.Read the full piece here.
Update: And tonight they’re competing with a broadcast of a popular state college football game:Update: And tonight they’re competing with a broadcast of a popular state college football game:
Explanation of that CBS update on Iowa game: No 5 Hawkeyes playing Minnesota right now. DNC couldn't have assured smaller aud if it triedExplanation of that CBS update on Iowa game: No 5 Hawkeyes playing Minnesota right now. DNC couldn't have assured smaller aud if it tried
Updated at 2.48am GMT Updated at 9.48pm ET
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Some Bernie Sanders fan art at the debate, via Dan Roberts:Some Bernie Sanders fan art at the debate, via Dan Roberts:
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The WiFi password for media at the last Republican debate was StopHillary. Tonight it’s 13MillionNewJobs:The WiFi password for media at the last Republican debate was StopHillary. Tonight it’s 13MillionNewJobs:
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Iowa Democrats question preparedness for caucusesIowa Democrats question preparedness for caucuses
Ben JacobsBen Jacobs
Iowa Democrats are increasingly worried the state party may not be prepared for the caucuses on 1 February, putting Iowa’s first-in-the-nation status at risk, reports Ben Jacobs (@bencjacobs):Iowa Democrats are increasingly worried the state party may not be prepared for the caucuses on 1 February, putting Iowa’s first-in-the-nation status at risk, reports Ben Jacobs (@bencjacobs):
With a little more than 80 days left, a number of top Democrats in the state expressed their concerns to the Guardian that the party has not done the work necessary to ensure that the caucuses, run solely by the Iowa Democratic party, will go smoothly.With a little more than 80 days left, a number of top Democrats in the state expressed their concerns to the Guardian that the party has not done the work necessary to ensure that the caucuses, run solely by the Iowa Democratic party, will go smoothly.
Iowa Democrats described growing anxiety over a state party they said was drifting and unprepared to organize in 1,681 precincts to ensure the result of the contest to pick Iowa’s choice for the Democratic presidential nomination is promptly reported.Iowa Democrats described growing anxiety over a state party they said was drifting and unprepared to organize in 1,681 precincts to ensure the result of the contest to pick Iowa’s choice for the Democratic presidential nomination is promptly reported.
Read the full piece here. NBC News contributes a snapshot of the campaigns’ ground games in Iowa – with the Democrats appearing to be lapping the Republicans:Read the full piece here. NBC News contributes a snapshot of the campaigns’ ground games in Iowa – with the Democrats appearing to be lapping the Republicans:
Hillary: 78 paid Iowa organizers Sanders: 71 O'Malley: 34 Trump: 12 Bush: 11 Cruz: 9 Rubio: 4 https://t.co/ZUUt2lsEu0Hillary: 78 paid Iowa organizers Sanders: 71 O'Malley: 34 Trump: 12 Bush: 11 Cruz: 9 Rubio: 4 https://t.co/ZUUt2lsEu0
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Jessica LeeJessica Lee
In advance of tonight’s debate, each of the Democratic candidates released statements on the Paris attacks. Here are excerpts:In advance of tonight’s debate, each of the Democratic candidates released statements on the Paris attacks. Here are excerpts:
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Dan RobertsDan Roberts
The Bernie Sanders campaign team have described any suggestion that he does not want to talk about foreign policy as “nonsense”, after reports emerged of a backroom row over changes to tonight’s debate format, reports Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts (@robertsdan) in Des Moines:The Bernie Sanders campaign team have described any suggestion that he does not want to talk about foreign policy as “nonsense”, after reports emerged of a backroom row over changes to tonight’s debate format, reports Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts (@robertsdan) in Des Moines:
Yahoo News reported an allegedly heated discussion between campaign aides and CBS executives over their decision to increase the foreign policy component of the Democratic debate in the wake of the Paris attacks.Yahoo News reported an allegedly heated discussion between campaign aides and CBS executives over their decision to increase the foreign policy component of the Democratic debate in the wake of the Paris attacks.
Team Sanders don’t deny that conversations took place over various format tweaks but insist they were “very minor technical discussions” and they are “fine” with the changes now they know what they are.Team Sanders don’t deny that conversations took place over various format tweaks but insist they were “very minor technical discussions” and they are “fine” with the changes now they know what they are.
“After all the horrible events in Paris, CBS is wholly understandably going to make that a focus of the debate and Bernie is focused on that,” campaign spokesman Michael Briggs told The Guardian.“After all the horrible events in Paris, CBS is wholly understandably going to make that a focus of the debate and Bernie is focused on that,” campaign spokesman Michael Briggs told The Guardian.
A separate campaign source who spoke with the Guardian described the shift in focus as “jarring” and insisted that Sanders’ campaign did not get its way.A separate campaign source who spoke with the Guardian described the shift in focus as “jarring” and insisted that Sanders’ campaign did not get its way.
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We’ll hear tonight what the Democratic candidates have to say about the attacks and what should be done.We’ll hear tonight what the Democratic candidates have to say about the attacks and what should be done.
Republican candidates have issued statements on the attacks today, ranging from a condemnation of President Barack Obama’s decision to take more refugees from Syria to the diagnosis, by Florida senator Marco Rubio, of “a civilizational conflict with radical Islam”.Republican candidates have issued statements on the attacks today, ranging from a condemnation of President Barack Obama’s decision to take more refugees from Syria to the diagnosis, by Florida senator Marco Rubio, of “a civilizational conflict with radical Islam”.
From our news coverage:From our news coverage:
Ted Cruz led Republican criticism of White House policy on Syria on Saturday, in light of the devastating terror attacks in Paris, deriding President Obama’s pledge to take more refugees and calling for intensified action against Islamic State. Marco Rubio took a different tack, however, in declaring “a civilizational conflict with radical Islam”.Ted Cruz led Republican criticism of White House policy on Syria on Saturday, in light of the devastating terror attacks in Paris, deriding President Obama’s pledge to take more refugees and calling for intensified action against Islamic State. Marco Rubio took a different tack, however, in declaring “a civilizational conflict with radical Islam”.
“This is not a grievance-based conflict. This is a clash of civilizations,” Rubio said in a video released by his presidential campaign. “This is a clash of civilizations. And either they win, or we win.”“This is not a grievance-based conflict. This is a clash of civilizations,” Rubio said in a video released by his presidential campaign. “This is a clash of civilizations. And either they win, or we win.”
Cruz and presidential candidates including Donald Trump, Bobby Jindal and Mike Huckabee seized on the news to demand drastic action on immigration, a hot-button issue on the campaign trail. Rubio, however, has made foreign policy a central focus of his run for the White House. In that light, he said the attacks in Paris were “a wake-up call”.Cruz and presidential candidates including Donald Trump, Bobby Jindal and Mike Huckabee seized on the news to demand drastic action on immigration, a hot-button issue on the campaign trail. Rubio, however, has made foreign policy a central focus of his run for the White House. In that light, he said the attacks in Paris were “a wake-up call”.
“They literally want to overthrow our society and replace it with their radical, Sunni Islamic view of the future,” the Florida senator said. “They do not hate us because we have military assets in the Middle East.“They literally want to overthrow our society and replace it with their radical, Sunni Islamic view of the future,” the Florida senator said. “They do not hate us because we have military assets in the Middle East.
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USA Today reports that tonight’s debate will begin with at least 20 minutes on terrorism and the Paris attacks.USA Today reports that tonight’s debate will begin with at least 20 minutes on terrorism and the Paris attacks.
Campaign source tells me @CBSNews has pledged at least first 20 mins of #DemDebate in Des Moines will be on terrorism #ParisAttacksCampaign source tells me @CBSNews has pledged at least first 20 mins of #DemDebate in Des Moines will be on terrorism #ParisAttacks
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Our ongoing live blog coverage of the Paris attacks and the aftermath is here.Our ongoing live blog coverage of the Paris attacks and the aftermath is here.
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Tom McCarthyTom McCarthy
The Guardian team for tonight’s debate includes Dan Roberts and Sabrina Siddiqui, attending in Des Moines, and contributions from Ben Jacobs and opinion editor Megan Carpentier.The Guardian team for tonight’s debate includes Dan Roberts and Sabrina Siddiqui, attending in Des Moines, and contributions from Ben Jacobs and opinion editor Megan Carpentier.
Here’s a line from Dan and Ben’s debate preview, about whether Bernie Sanders’ campaign is running out of steam…Here’s a line from Dan and Ben’s debate preview, about whether Bernie Sanders’ campaign is running out of steam…
Two thirds of the way into one of the most unlikely political insurgencies of modern times, the once electrifying campaign to elect Bernie Sanders as Democratic nominee for president is looking for a new jolt of energy from Saturday’s second television debate.Two thirds of the way into one of the most unlikely political insurgencies of modern times, the once electrifying campaign to elect Bernie Sanders as Democratic nominee for president is looking for a new jolt of energy from Saturday’s second television debate.
But with poll numbers flatlining in the face of Hillary Clinton’s invigorated electoral machine, those close to team Bernie privately concede the momentum they really need to recapture can only come now from victories in early-voting states – particularly Iowa and New Hampshire…But with poll numbers flatlining in the face of Hillary Clinton’s invigorated electoral machine, those close to team Bernie privately concede the momentum they really need to recapture can only come now from victories in early-voting states – particularly Iowa and New Hampshire…
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Tom McCarthyTom McCarthy
Hello and welcome to our live coverage of the second Democratic presidential debate, convening tonight in Des Moines, Iowa – the first state to vote.Hello and welcome to our live coverage of the second Democratic presidential debate, convening tonight in Des Moines, Iowa – the first state to vote.
CBS News, which is hosting the debate with the Des Moines Register, has announced that moderators will focus on terrorism and national security issues, a day after co-ordinated attacks in Paris killed at least 129 people. The Islamic State group claimed responsibility.CBS News, which is hosting the debate with the Des Moines Register, has announced that moderators will focus on terrorism and national security issues, a day after co-ordinated attacks in Paris killed at least 129 people. The Islamic State group claimed responsibility.
At a candidates’ forum a week ago, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner, said she would not be more aggressive on foreign policy than President Barack Obama. She may be tested on that statement tonight.At a candidates’ forum a week ago, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner, said she would not be more aggressive on foreign policy than President Barack Obama. She may be tested on that statement tonight.
Clinton, a former secretary of state, senator and first lady, released a statement on Saturday calling on the US to “wage and win the struggle against terrorism and violent extremism” alongside global allies.Clinton, a former secretary of state, senator and first lady, released a statement on Saturday calling on the US to “wage and win the struggle against terrorism and violent extremism” alongside global allies.
The two other Democratic candidates, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, released statements of support for victims of the attacks and their loved ones.The two other Democratic candidates, Vermont senator Bernie Sanders and former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, released statements of support for victims of the attacks and their loved ones.
Tonight’s event is also expected to feature debate on domestic issues such as wealth inequality, wages, equal pay and healthcare, which until now have been the focus of the Democratic race.Tonight’s event is also expected to feature debate on domestic issues such as wealth inequality, wages, equal pay and healthcare, which until now have been the focus of the Democratic race.
Hosting the event at Drake University will be CBS News presenters John Dickerson, Nancy Cordes, Kathie Obradovich and Kevin Cooney.Hosting the event at Drake University will be CBS News presenters John Dickerson, Nancy Cordes, Kathie Obradovich and Kevin Cooney.
The debate is scheduled to start at 9pm ET. It will stream online at cbsnews.com.The debate is scheduled to start at 9pm ET. It will stream online at cbsnews.com.
Updated at 12.08am GMT Updated at 7.08pm ET