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| Republican debate live: Trump says 'some protesters are bad dudes' | |
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| 3.49am GMT | |
| 03:49 | |
| Trump is asked whether he would consider to reject major outside donations in a general election campaign. | |
| He says he’s not sure but “I don’t want anyone to control me but the people out there.” | |
| Cruz says Trump can’t point to a single special interest he would take on – Wall Street, ethanol, you name it. | |
| Trump replies that Cruz is supported by political action committees. “There is total control of the candidates,” he says. “I know the system far better than anyone else.. because I was on both sides of it... I’m the only one up here that is gonna be able to fix that system.” | |
| 3.46am GMT | |
| 03:46 | |
| Cruz: 'If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins' | |
| Kasich is asked about whether he has a path to the nomination. | |
| “Math doesn’t tell the whole story in politics... what’s true today is not necessarily true tomorrow,” Kasich says. “You just have to win enough delegates to be the nominee.” | |
| He recalls Reagan losing to Ford at the 1976 Republican convention. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We don’t know what’s going to happen because we still have about have the delegates to be selected.” | |
| Trump is asked if he arrives in Cleveland with a plurality but not a majority, would he agree to a brokered convention? | |
| Trump: “First of all I think I’m going to have the delegates. But if somebody doesn’t have the delegates... if two of us get up there. If Marco, if the governor, if Ted had more votes than me in terms of delegates ... I think that whoever gets the most delegates should win.” | |
| Cruz is asked about what would happen if there were a brokered convention. | |
| “There is some in Washington who are having fevered dreams of a brokered convention... I think that would be an absolute disaster,” Cruz says. | |
| “There are only two of us who have a path to the nomination... Donald and myself,” he says. | |
| And here’s his sales pitch: | |
| “If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins,” Cruz says flatly. | |
| Rubio said after getting no delegates Tuesday he was disappointed, but then his wife told him about a retired man who had surgery but holds a Marco Rubio sign outside. (That was the story.) “He’s not giving up on me and I’m not giving up on him,” RUbio says. | |
| 3.42am GMT | |
| 03:42 | |
| Mona Chalabi | |
| It’s frankly surprising to see climate change come up in a GOP debate at all. Polling has repeatedly shown that while Democrats and Republicans alike care about issues like the economy, climate change is a huge fault line politically. | |
| Last November, Pew Research found strong partisan divides on the issue, as the chart below shows. | |
| More recently, a poll from Quinnipiac University last month found that 7% of Democrats rate climate change as the most important issue in determining which candidate they support for the party’s presidential nominee. | |
| When Republicans were asked the same question, the results were so low (less than 1%) that Quinnipiac simply reported climate change issues with “–” in the results summary. | |
| 3.39am GMT | |
| 03:39 | |
| Cruz is asked about violence at rallies and he says he thinks it’s strange that Trump asked people to take a pledge to him because the role of the candidate is to pledge himself to the people. | |
| In a tacit criticism of Trump, Kasich says “you can either prey on that and be negative about it, or you can tell people that these things can be fixed.” | |
| Rubio says “I’m concerned about violence in general in our society” first against law enforcement. | |
| “Leadership is about using the anger to motivate us to take action, not to define us,” Rubio says. | |
| 3.37am GMT | |
| 03:37 | |
| Trump on supporters: 'They have anger that's unbelievable' | |
| Trump is asked about whether he has contributed to the climate of violence that attends some of his rallies. | |
| “I hope not. I truly hope not. People come with tremendous passion...” | |
| Trump says he has not seen video of a supporter last night sucker-punching a protester. Anybody who watches cable as much as Trump would seem to have seen it. | |
| “I haven’t seen, I heard about it, I don’t like it. | |
| But then Trump defends his protesters: “They have anger that’s unbelievable. They love this country. They don’t like seeing bad trade deals. They don’t like using their jobs.” | |
| As for the violence: “I certainly do not condone that at all.” | |
| But Tapper follows up, quoting inflammatory things Trump has said at rallies: “I’d like to punch him in the face.... Knock the crap out of him, would you. Just knock the hell?” | |
| Trump then blames the protesters: | |
| We have some protesters who are bad dudes... they are swinging, they are really dangerous. ... We had a couple big powerful strong guys doing damage to people. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.37am GMT | |
| 3.33am GMT | |
| 03:33 | |
| Megan Carpentier | |
| Tonight is apparently the night everyone ran out of talking points and started recycling! | |
| Ted Cruz, as he did on 17 February, repeated the myth that President Obama returned a bust of Winston Churchill to the British because of some sort of unstated ideological disagreement, but that he would totally demand the bust back. | |
| The truth, of course, is somewhat different. The bust in question was loaned to George W Bush by Tony Blair in 2001 and returned as a matter of diplomatic protocol because it was a personal loan to W. | |
| A separate bust of Churchill, given to then-President Lyndon B Johnson in the 1960s, remains in the White House today. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.34am GMT | |
| 3.31am GMT | |
| 03:31 | |
| Hillary Clinton weighs in on the climate change exchange. None of the candidates tonight used the “I’m not a scientist” line, but Rubio at least has in the past: | |
| Republican candidates deny climate change because they’re “not scientists.” #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/ApzqrcHleN | |
| Here’s Sanders’ last check-in. Unclear whether he’s watching this thing: | |
| The recklessness, greed and illegal behavior of Wall Street drove this country into the worst economic downturn in modern history. | |
| 3.29am GMT | |
| 03:29 | |
| Commercial break. They’re 90 minutes in. How are they looking to you? Rubio looks pretty good tonight? But they all are keeping pace. Pros this bunch. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.31am GMT | |
| 3.28am GMT | |
| 03:28 | |
| Kasich, Trump split on Tiananmen | |
| Trump is asked about positive things he’s said about Putin, and asked about his admiring comments for the Chinese government crackdown on the Tiananmen protesters. | |
| Trump says yes he said the Chinese response was strong but that’s not necessarily an admiring assessment. | |
| “Strong doesn’t mean good,” Trump says. “I say it as the fact.” | |
| Kasich gives a much more exciting and morally clear response to the question: | |
| I think that the Chinese government butchered those kids, and when that young man stood in front of that tank, we ought to build a statue of him over here. | |
| 3.27am GMT | |
| 03:27 | |
| Megan Carpentier | |
| Governor John Kasich has claimed that the world is calling for “a strong America”. | |
| Well… not all the world, it turns out. Take the people of Jordan – whose king has been heralded time and again as a great ally at both the Republican and Democratic debates. They have an overwhelmingly unfavorable opinion of the United States (83%). | |
| Other allies aren’t overwhelmingly supportive: 45% of Germans think we’re crappy, as do 58% of Turks. Even 26% of Canadians don’t like the US, and they never hate anyone. | |
| One suspects that’s not because we’re not invading and/or bombing enough places. | |
| 3.25am GMT | |
| 03:25 | |
| Megan Carpentier | |
| This is not the first time that Marco Rubio has suggested that Cuba needs to expel Assata Shakur (albeit not by name) before normalization of relations should happen. | |
| Of course, not mentioning her by name makes it harder to Google her, so to recap: | |
| Cuba considers her conviction political and has consistently refused to extradite her; Shakur was a member of the Black Liberation Army who was driving a vehicle with two other members when pulled over by New Jersey State troopers in 1973. Shakur and one trooper were shot and survived; Trooper Werner Foerster and one of Shakur’s passengers died of gunshot wounds. Shakur was convicted after a trial in 1977 that her lawyers have argued was prejudiced (and before and during which her lawyers believe that law enforcement interfered with her defense), but she escaped and fled to Cuba in 1979. | |
| She remains on the FBI’s Most Wanted Terrorist List today. | |
| You can read more here: | |
| Related: Assata Shakur: from civil rights activist to FBI's most-wanted | |
| 3.25am GMT | |
| 03:25 | |
| Cruz rejects the notion that the tone of the presidential election is hurting the US image overseas. On the contrary, Cruz says, it’s Barack Obama who has hurt the US image overseas. | |
| He says a president can change overnight and there’s hope for a “president who stands with our friends and allies... and demonstrates strength to our enemies.” | |
| 3.23am GMT | |
| 03:23 | |
| Kasich accepts the scientific consensus of a human role in climate change. | |
| “I do believe we contribute to climate change” but that doesn’t mean you have to hurt the economy to fix it, Kasich says. | |
| “You can have strong environmental policy at the same time as you have strong economic growth,” Kasich says. | |
| 3.22am GMT | |
| 03:22 | |
| Rubio denies climate change anomaly | |
| Climate change question: “Will you acknowledge the reality of the scientific consensus of climate change?” | |
| Guess what? No. | |
| Rubio: “Sure, the climate is changing... There was never a time when the climate was not changing.” | |
| Rubio says flooding in south Florida is caused by the fact that it’s built on a swamp and says he favors mitigation measures. | |
| “As far as a law that we can pass in Washington that can change the weather? There’s no such thing.” Then he decries Obama EPA and emissions regulations and “the war on coal.” | |
| “These laws that people are asking us to pass will do nothing for the environment and hurt the economy,” Rubio says. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.26am GMT | |
| 3.18am GMT | |
| 03:18 | |
| Kasich is asked whether he would encourage US companies to do business with Cuba. | |
| Kasich says he would not. Then he says US allies are confused by US foreign policy, which he says is inconsistent. He touches on Syria, Egypt, the Gulf, Syria, Egypt... | |
| “You need to support your friends, you need to hold your enemies out here and you need to negotiate better deals.” | |
| Kasich is on a foreign policy tear, arming Ukrainians, warning Vladimir Putin that America is fed up. | |
| 3.15am GMT | 3.15am GMT |
| 03:15 | 03:15 |
| Rubio clocks Trump on the Cuba question. He rattles down the list of anti-Castro grievances and is applauded absolutely wildly. | Rubio clocks Trump on the Cuba question. He rattles down the list of anti-Castro grievances and is applauded absolutely wildly. |
| Cruz gets the question. Would you break diplomatic relations with Cuba? “Yes I would,” Cruz says. | Cruz gets the question. Would you break diplomatic relations with Cuba? “Yes I would,” Cruz says. |
| Then Cruz says the question illustrates “a real difference between us” on foreign policy. Trump, Cruz says, supports the “same basic trajectory” of policy as Obama and Clinton have established. | Then Cruz says the question illustrates “a real difference between us” on foreign policy. Trump, Cruz says, supports the “same basic trajectory” of policy as Obama and Clinton have established. |
| Trump says again, “we would not do the deal unless it would be a very good deal for us.” Then he skips to Iran. Deal, deal, deal. How many times has Trump said “deal”? | Trump says again, “we would not do the deal unless it would be a very good deal for us.” Then he skips to Iran. Deal, deal, deal. How many times has Trump said “deal”? |
| 3.12am GMT | 3.12am GMT |
| 03:12 | 03:12 |
| Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts: | Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts: |
| I wonder how different the nomination race might have been if every GOP debate had been a civilised discussion of policy issues like this? | I wonder how different the nomination race might have been if every GOP debate had been a civilised discussion of policy issues like this? |
| I think part of the reason why this debate feels more substantive is they have longer to answer. Size of the field led to race to the bottom | I think part of the reason why this debate feels more substantive is they have longer to answer. Size of the field led to race to the bottom |
| 3.11am GMT | 3.11am GMT |
| 03:11 | 03:11 |
| Trump has said that opening Cuba is fine. “I want a much better deal with Cuba,” he now says. He lapses into his riff about “we don’t make any good deals.” | Trump has said that opening Cuba is fine. “I want a much better deal with Cuba,” he now says. He lapses into his riff about “we don’t make any good deals.” |
| “I do agree that something should take place. After 50 years it’s enough time folks. But we have to make a good deal here.” | “I do agree that something should take place. After 50 years it’s enough time folks. But we have to make a good deal here.” |
| 3.10am GMT | 3.10am GMT |
| 03:10 | 03:10 |
| Next question is about Obama’s trip later this month to Cuba. The question goes to Rubio, on why the United States must not engage further with Cuba. | Next question is about Obama’s trip later this month to Cuba. The question goes to Rubio, on why the United States must not engage further with Cuba. |
| Rubio says that the US changes allow money to flow to the Castro regime “and nothing will change for the Cuban people. ... In fact things are worse, than they were before this opening.” | Rubio says that the US changes allow money to flow to the Castro regime “and nothing will change for the Cuban people. ... In fact things are worse, than they were before this opening.” |
| Rubio says the only result of “the opening” is the Cuban government has more sources than money. | Rubio says the only result of “the opening” is the Cuban government has more sources than money. |
| Big huge applause line for Rubio, as he blasts the Cuban regime. | Big huge applause line for Rubio, as he blasts the Cuban regime. |