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| Republican debate live: Rubio shines in Florida as Trump stumbles over Cuba | |
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| 4.17am GMT | |
| 04:17 | |
| From the comments / who won? | |
| We asked, you answered. Well you didn’t all declare a winner – but here’s how some of you weighed in on what just happened: | |
| Pretty boring debate!!! Trump win simply because the others need a knockout and really just not alot happened. | |
| Carson endorsement main story of the day. | |
| Guardian says Rubio won, various other pundits say the same or Cruz ergo Trump won and Kasich came second by default other two performed horribly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | |
| I don’t know that we have declared a Rubio victory... we did think he ran circles around Trump on Cuba: | |
| Related: Marco Rubio scores at GOP debate with condemnation of Obama's Cuba policy | |
| Trump pretty much mailed this one in, sort of just riding with the waves. Kasich was also pretty weak, disappointing as he is a candidate I have supported. | |
| Rubio easily won the debate, very eloquent. Where has he been all this time? Cruz also had a good debate, but not at the level of Rubio. | |
| As others have said here, the other three candidates certainly should have gone after Donald on violence at these circus like Trump rallies. | |
| 4.08am GMT | |
| 04:08 | |
| Lucia Graves | |
| Marco Rubio had an uncommonly strong debate night tonight – and he certainly needed it after poor performances in the last two and an embarrassing finish in Saturday’s primaries. His route to the nomination looks increasingly impossible, and perhaps that now-or-never realization was what unleashed his tongue. | |
| When a moderator asked Rubio about opening up diplomatic relations with Cuba and, specifically, why he thinks the president and Donald Trump and the American people are all wrong about their willingness to do so, Rubio said he would love for the US to change its relationship with Cuba, but that that ‘would first require the Cuban government to change’. | |
| Later, when Trump seemed to have no idea what to say about US policy with Cuba, Rubio seemed ready to explain it to him. | |
| Earlier, when Trump accused him of being politically correct in his nuanced approach to relations with Muslims, Rubio had a clever retort: ‘I’m not interested in being politically correct – I’m interested in being correct.’ And on the question of climate change, he drew applause with more pithy bon mots. He said Miami was in trouble because it was built on a swamp and that ‘as far as a law we can pass in Washington to change the weather, there’s no such thing’. | |
| Late in the debate Rubio acknowledged of his Not-So-Super Tuesday, ‘I didn’t do as well as I would have liked,’ but he added that a story his wife had told him about a supporter who believed in him through thick and thin had given him strength. | |
| If losing is really what gives him strength, perhaps it’s too bad he didn’t do it earlier. | |
| 4.08am GMT | |
| 04:08 | |
| Michelle Fields, the Breitbart reporter yanked around and bruised by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on Tuesday, expresses disappointment that the debate moderators did not confront Trump about his campaign’s denial of the incident, despite an audio recording of it and witness account: | |
| Really a shame @hughhewitt @jaketapper | |
| Updated | |
| at 4.09am GMT | |
| 4.05am GMT | |
| 04:05 | |
| Clinton posts her usual post-debate provocation: | |
| Debate one of these guys? Bring it on. #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/k9SNv0T3cL | |
| 4.02am GMT | |
| 04:02 | |
| Closing statements | |
| Kasich: I’ve tried to be positive. I wanted to raise the bar in presidential politics. [This sounds like a valedictory.] “I will continue to run a positive campaign. I can fix it, I’ve done it before.” Federal power to the states. [This is a long closing statement.] My beloved Buckeyes. | |
| Rubio: Great to be home in Miami. My father was a bartender. I’m a presidential candidate. My parents wanted me to live their dream. That was possible because America is special. Now the moment has arrived for our generation to do our part. The single greatest nation ever. | |
| Cruz: What an incredible nation we have. That the son of a bartender and the son of a mailman and a successful businessman could be running for president. Who will best represent our values, who will best defend your values and fight for you? I cannot wait to stand on this stage [against Hillary Clinton]. Cops firefighters soldiers. | |
| Trump: New Republican voters – they’re coming by the millions. We should seize that opportunity. These are people that will win us the election. Fabulous supreme court justices. If we lose... it will take centuries to recover. Unify. Be smart and unify. | |
| Perfect close from Trump: Who you gonna believe, the pollsters or the arenas I'm filling with voters? | |
| Updated | |
| at 4.20am GMT | |
| 3.59am GMT | |
| 03:59 | |
| Lucia Graves | |
| A classic bit of victim blaming: Trump, asked by a moderator about the repeated violence against protesters and members of the media at his rallies, did what you might expect – he vilified the protesters. | |
| ‘We have some protesters. They are bad dudes. They are swinging,’ Trump said. | |
| This came on the heels of a report that his own campaign manager assaulted a member of the media at an event in Jupiter, Florida, this week, and multiple incidents – many videotaped – involving peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters. | |
| ‘They get in there and they’re hitting people,’ Trump alleged of the protesters, adding: ‘They’ve got to be taken out, we’ve got to run something … and it’s not me, it’s usually the police.’ | |
| Related: Black protester detained after being sucker-punched at Trump rally | |
| Trump’s response is part of a larger culture of denying responsibility for the violence that takes place at his rallies. This week we saw just how far up into his campaign that culture extends. | |
| Most troubling of all, perhaps, was that none of the other candidates seemed to want to condemn the violence at Trump events, either. Instead his chief rival, Ted Cruz, used the opportunity to align Trump with Obama: ‘We’ve seen for seven years someone who believes he’s above the law, who thinks he’s an emperor.’ | |
| What about whether anyone in his administration reportedly physically assaulted anyone? How about that? | |
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| at 3.59am GMT | |
| 3.54am GMT | |
| 03:54 | |
| Last break. What did you think about that exchange on the delegate math? | |
| Trump says whoever gets the most delegates should win. He describes getting a majority as "an artificial number" | |
| Trump believes 1237 is artificial number — he thinks whoever has the most delegates at the end should be nominee even if short of 1237 | |
| Kasich: Math doesn't tell the whole story | |
| 3.49am GMT | 3.49am GMT |
| 03:49 | 03:49 |
| Trump is asked whether he would consider to reject major outside donations in a general election campaign. | Trump is asked whether he would consider to reject major outside donations in a general election campaign. |
| He says he’s not sure but “I don’t want anyone to control me but the people out there.” | He says he’s not sure but “I don’t want anyone to control me but the people out there.” |
| Cruz says Trump can’t point to a single special interest he would take on – Wall Street, ethanol, you name it. | Cruz says Trump can’t point to a single special interest he would take on – Wall Street, ethanol, you name it. |
| Trump replies that Cruz is supported by political action committees. “There is total control of the candidates,” he says. “I know the system far better than anyone else.. because I was on both sides of it... I’m the only one up here that is gonna be able to fix that system.” | Trump replies that Cruz is supported by political action committees. “There is total control of the candidates,” he says. “I know the system far better than anyone else.. because I was on both sides of it... I’m the only one up here that is gonna be able to fix that system.” |
| 3.46am GMT | 3.46am GMT |
| 03:46 | 03:46 |
| Cruz: 'If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins' | Cruz: 'If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins' |
| Kasich is asked about whether he has a path to the nomination. | Kasich is asked about whether he has a path to the nomination. |
| “Math doesn’t tell the whole story in politics... what’s true today is not necessarily true tomorrow,” Kasich says. “You just have to win enough delegates to be the nominee.” | “Math doesn’t tell the whole story in politics... what’s true today is not necessarily true tomorrow,” Kasich says. “You just have to win enough delegates to be the nominee.” |
| He recalls Reagan losing to Ford at the 1976 Republican convention. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We don’t know what’s going to happen because we still have about have the delegates to be selected.” | He recalls Reagan losing to Ford at the 1976 Republican convention. “Let’s not get ahead of ourselves. We don’t know what’s going to happen because we still have about have the delegates to be selected.” |
| Trump is asked if he arrives in Cleveland with a plurality but not a majority, would he agree to a brokered convention? | Trump is asked if he arrives in Cleveland with a plurality but not a majority, would he agree to a brokered convention? |
| Trump: “First of all I think I’m going to have the delegates. But if somebody doesn’t have the delegates... if two of us get up there. If Marco, if the governor, if Ted had more votes than me in terms of delegates ... I think that whoever gets the most delegates should win.” | Trump: “First of all I think I’m going to have the delegates. But if somebody doesn’t have the delegates... if two of us get up there. If Marco, if the governor, if Ted had more votes than me in terms of delegates ... I think that whoever gets the most delegates should win.” |
| Cruz is asked about what would happen if there were a brokered convention. | Cruz is asked about what would happen if there were a brokered convention. |
| “There is some in Washington who are having fevered dreams of a brokered convention... I think that would be an absolute disaster,” Cruz says. | “There is some in Washington who are having fevered dreams of a brokered convention... I think that would be an absolute disaster,” Cruz says. |
| “There are only two of us who have a path to the nomination... Donald and myself,” he says. | “There are only two of us who have a path to the nomination... Donald and myself,” he says. |
| And here’s his sales pitch: | And here’s his sales pitch: |
| “If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins,” Cruz says flatly. | “If we nominate Donald Trump, Hillary wins,” Cruz says flatly. |
| Rubio said after getting no delegates Tuesday he was disappointed, but then his wife told him about a retired man who had surgery and uses a walker but holds a Marco Rubio sign outside annyway. (That was the story.) “He’s not giving up on me and I’m not giving up on him,” RUbio says. | |
| name the gentleman with the aluminum walking chair or he doesn't exist Marco. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.51am GMT | |
| 3.42am GMT | 3.42am GMT |
| 03:42 | 03:42 |
| Mona Chalabi | Mona Chalabi |
| It’s frankly surprising to see climate change come up in a GOP debate at all. Polling has repeatedly shown that while Democrats and Republicans alike care about issues like the economy, climate change is a huge fault line politically. | It’s frankly surprising to see climate change come up in a GOP debate at all. Polling has repeatedly shown that while Democrats and Republicans alike care about issues like the economy, climate change is a huge fault line politically. |
| Last November, Pew Research found strong partisan divides on the issue, as the chart below shows. | Last November, Pew Research found strong partisan divides on the issue, as the chart below shows. |
| More recently, a poll from Quinnipiac University last month found that 7% of Democrats rate climate change as the most important issue in determining which candidate they support for the party’s presidential nominee. | More recently, a poll from Quinnipiac University last month found that 7% of Democrats rate climate change as the most important issue in determining which candidate they support for the party’s presidential nominee. |
| When Republicans were asked the same question, the results were so low (less than 1%) that Quinnipiac simply reported climate change issues with “–” in the results summary. | When Republicans were asked the same question, the results were so low (less than 1%) that Quinnipiac simply reported climate change issues with “–” in the results summary. |
| 3.39am GMT | 3.39am GMT |
| 03:39 | 03:39 |
| Cruz is asked about violence at rallies and he says he thinks it’s strange that Trump asked people to take a pledge to him because the role of the candidate is to pledge himself to the people. | Cruz is asked about violence at rallies and he says he thinks it’s strange that Trump asked people to take a pledge to him because the role of the candidate is to pledge himself to the people. |
| In a tacit criticism of Trump, Kasich says “you can either prey on that and be negative about it, or you can tell people that these things can be fixed.” | In a tacit criticism of Trump, Kasich says “you can either prey on that and be negative about it, or you can tell people that these things can be fixed.” |
| Rubio says “I’m concerned about violence in general in our society” first against law enforcement. | Rubio says “I’m concerned about violence in general in our society” first against law enforcement. |
| “Leadership is about using the anger to motivate us to take action, not to define us,” Rubio says. | “Leadership is about using the anger to motivate us to take action, not to define us,” Rubio says. |
| 3.37am GMT | 3.37am GMT |
| 03:37 | 03:37 |
| Trump on supporters: 'They have anger that's unbelievable' | Trump on supporters: 'They have anger that's unbelievable' |
| Trump is asked about whether he has contributed to the climate of violence that attends some of his rallies. | Trump is asked about whether he has contributed to the climate of violence that attends some of his rallies. |
| “I hope not. I truly hope not. People come with tremendous passion...” | “I hope not. I truly hope not. People come with tremendous passion...” |
| Trump says he has not seen video of a supporter last night sucker-punching a protester. Anybody who watches cable as much as Trump would seem to have seen it. | Trump says he has not seen video of a supporter last night sucker-punching a protester. Anybody who watches cable as much as Trump would seem to have seen it. |
| “I haven’t seen, I heard about it, I don’t like it. | “I haven’t seen, I heard about it, I don’t like it. |
| But then Trump defends his protesters: “They have anger that’s unbelievable. They love this country. They don’t like seeing bad trade deals. They don’t like using their jobs.” | But then Trump defends his protesters: “They have anger that’s unbelievable. They love this country. They don’t like seeing bad trade deals. They don’t like using their jobs.” |
| As for the violence: “I certainly do not condone that at all.” | As for the violence: “I certainly do not condone that at all.” |
| But Tapper follows up, quoting inflammatory things Trump has said at rallies: “I’d like to punch him in the face.... Knock the crap out of him, would you. Just knock the hell?” | But Tapper follows up, quoting inflammatory things Trump has said at rallies: “I’d like to punch him in the face.... Knock the crap out of him, would you. Just knock the hell?” |
| Trump then blames the protesters: | Trump then blames the protesters: |
| We have some protesters who are bad dudes... they are swinging, they are really dangerous. ... We had a couple big powerful strong guys doing damage to people. | We have some protesters who are bad dudes... they are swinging, they are really dangerous. ... We had a couple big powerful strong guys doing damage to people. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.37am GMT | at 3.37am GMT |
| 3.33am GMT | 3.33am GMT |
| 03:33 | 03:33 |
| Megan Carpentier | Megan Carpentier |
| Tonight is apparently the night everyone ran out of talking points and started recycling! | Tonight is apparently the night everyone ran out of talking points and started recycling! |
| Ted Cruz, as he did on 17 February, repeated the myth that President Obama returned a bust of Winston Churchill to the British because of some sort of unstated ideological disagreement, but that he would totally demand the bust back. | Ted Cruz, as he did on 17 February, repeated the myth that President Obama returned a bust of Winston Churchill to the British because of some sort of unstated ideological disagreement, but that he would totally demand the bust back. |
| The truth, of course, is somewhat different. The bust in question was loaned to George W Bush by Tony Blair in 2001 and returned as a matter of diplomatic protocol because it was a personal loan to W. | The truth, of course, is somewhat different. The bust in question was loaned to George W Bush by Tony Blair in 2001 and returned as a matter of diplomatic protocol because it was a personal loan to W. |
| A separate bust of Churchill, given to then-President Lyndon B Johnson in the 1960s, remains in the White House today. | A separate bust of Churchill, given to then-President Lyndon B Johnson in the 1960s, remains in the White House today. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.34am GMT | at 3.34am GMT |
| 3.31am GMT | 3.31am GMT |
| 03:31 | 03:31 |
| Hillary Clinton weighs in on the climate change exchange. None of the candidates tonight used the “I’m not a scientist” line, but Rubio at least has in the past: | Hillary Clinton weighs in on the climate change exchange. None of the candidates tonight used the “I’m not a scientist” line, but Rubio at least has in the past: |
| Republican candidates deny climate change because they’re “not scientists.” #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/ApzqrcHleN | Republican candidates deny climate change because they’re “not scientists.” #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/ApzqrcHleN |
| Here’s Sanders’ last check-in. Unclear whether he’s watching this thing: | Here’s Sanders’ last check-in. Unclear whether he’s watching this thing: |
| The recklessness, greed and illegal behavior of Wall Street drove this country into the worst economic downturn in modern history. | The recklessness, greed and illegal behavior of Wall Street drove this country into the worst economic downturn in modern history. |
| 3.29am GMT | 3.29am GMT |
| 03:29 | 03:29 |
| Commercial break. They’re 90 minutes in. How are they looking to you? Rubio looks pretty good tonight? But they all are keeping pace. Pros this bunch. | Commercial break. They’re 90 minutes in. How are they looking to you? Rubio looks pretty good tonight? But they all are keeping pace. Pros this bunch. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 3.31am GMT | at 3.31am GMT |
| 3.28am GMT | 3.28am GMT |
| 03:28 | 03:28 |
| Kasich, Trump split on Tiananmen | Kasich, Trump split on Tiananmen |
| Trump is asked about positive things he’s said about Putin, and asked about his admiring comments for the Chinese government crackdown on the Tiananmen protesters. | Trump is asked about positive things he’s said about Putin, and asked about his admiring comments for the Chinese government crackdown on the Tiananmen protesters. |
| Trump says yes he said the Chinese response was strong but that’s not necessarily an admiring assessment. | Trump says yes he said the Chinese response was strong but that’s not necessarily an admiring assessment. |
| “Strong doesn’t mean good,” Trump says. “I say it as the fact.” | “Strong doesn’t mean good,” Trump says. “I say it as the fact.” |
| Kasich gives a much more exciting and morally clear response to the question: | Kasich gives a much more exciting and morally clear response to the question: |
| I think that the Chinese government butchered those kids, and when that young man stood in front of that tank, we ought to build a statue of him over here. | I think that the Chinese government butchered those kids, and when that young man stood in front of that tank, we ought to build a statue of him over here. |