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Trump stumbles over Cuba as Rubio shines in Republican debate – as it happened | |
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The 12th Republican debate is done. Here’s how it went down: | |
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All Virgin Islands delegates to arrive at convention uncommitted | |
Ben Jacobs | |
All nine delegates from the U.S. Virgin Islands to the Republican National Convention in July will be uncommitted, writes Guardian politics reporter Ben Jacobs: | |
With final results from the U.S. territory’s Republican caucuses in, all six delegates up for election in the Virgin Islands will be uncommitted. Combined with the three delegates who owe their places at the convention to their rule in the territory’s Republican Party, the entire delegation will be up for grabs in July. | |
The delegates will be free to support any candidate they choose at the convention on the first ballot used to elect a nominee. | |
In a potential contested convention, the delegates would have disproportionate influence for being uncommitted. The delegation will include veteran Republican strategist John Yob, the author of the forthcoming book Convention Chaos about a potential contested convention. | |
The impact of these results goes beyond the fact that the six delegates up for election on Thursday will not be pledged to any candidate. Rule 40b of the Republican Party currently states that candidates need to win the support of a majority of the delegations in eight different states or territories to have their name placed into nomination at a convention. | |
Party insiders have long assumed that the rule, implemented solely to block Ron Paul’s name from being placed into nomination in 2012, would be modified before the 2016 convention. However, if that doesn’t happen, unpledged delegates, combined with the territory’s three RNC members, would be able to form a majority of Virgin Islands’ delegation. This means they could potentially serve as one of the eight states needed for a candidate to have their name placed into nomination. | |
But, regardless of the rule’s applicability, in what looks like a vicious dogfight for the GOP nomination, there are now a few more delegates who owe nothing to any candidate on the ballot. | |
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Dan Roberts | |
Donald Trump slipped into the spin room with a leonine prowl tonight, leading the candidates in to face a throng of cameras with few words but plenty of attitude, writes Guardian Washington bureau chief Dan Roberts: | |
Beneath a largely superfluous banner announcing his name, the increasingly confident Republican frontrunner took a few questions on recent violence at his rallies but did not pause long enough before each camera to add much of substance. | |
In contrast to the alleged assault of a reporter at his rally, this procession – which was followed by John Kasich and Ted Cruz some paces behind – saw most journalists kept away from the candidate by metal crush barriers and only television cameras allowed up close. | |
Spin rooms are often the place that advisers come to interpret and explain their candidates’ performance, but tonight’s appearance had more of the feel of a victory lap. | |
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Trump: I think 'she made it up' | Trump: I think 'she made it up' |
Here’s video of Trump saying a reporter allegedly assaulted by his campaign manager “made it up.” Below that is an audio recording of her before and after the incident, a photo of her injuries and the description of a Washington Post reporter who saw it. | Here’s video of Trump saying a reporter allegedly assaulted by his campaign manager “made it up.” Below that is an audio recording of her before and after the incident, a photo of her injuries and the description of a Washington Post reporter who saw it. |
VIDEO: Trump to @DylanByers on @MichelleFields incident. "I think she made it up." pic.twitter.com/VUB5LnbrTM | VIDEO: Trump to @DylanByers on @MichelleFields incident. "I think she made it up." pic.twitter.com/VUB5LnbrTM |
I guess these just magically appeared on me @CLewandowski_ @realDonaldTrump. So weird. pic.twitter.com/oD8c4D7tw3 | I guess these just magically appeared on me @CLewandowski_ @realDonaldTrump. So weird. pic.twitter.com/oD8c4D7tw3 |
Washington Post reporter account: | Washington Post reporter account: |
As security parted the masses to give him passage out of the chandelier-lit ballroom, Michelle Fields, a young reporter for Trump-friendly Breitbart News, pressed forward to ask the Republican front-runner a question. I watched as a man with short-cropped hair and a suit grabbed her arm and yanked her out of the way. He was Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s 41-year-old campaign manager. | As security parted the masses to give him passage out of the chandelier-lit ballroom, Michelle Fields, a young reporter for Trump-friendly Breitbart News, pressed forward to ask the Republican front-runner a question. I watched as a man with short-cropped hair and a suit grabbed her arm and yanked her out of the way. He was Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s 41-year-old campaign manager. |
Fields stumbled. Finger-shaped bruises formed on her arm. | Fields stumbled. Finger-shaped bruises formed on her arm. |
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Trump himself reportedly denies the allegation that his campaign manager manhandled a reporter. | Trump himself reportedly denies the allegation that his campaign manager manhandled a reporter. |
That would mean the reporter is lying, the Washington Post reporter who witnessed the incident is lying and the audio recording documenting it is fabricated. | That would mean the reporter is lying, the Washington Post reporter who witnessed the incident is lying and the audio recording documenting it is fabricated. |
#Break: Donald Trump just told me he thinks that the Michelle Fields incident didn't happen. "I think they made it up." | #Break: Donald Trump just told me he thinks that the Michelle Fields incident didn't happen. "I think they made it up." |
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From the comments / who won? | From the comments / who won? |
We asked, you answered. Well you didn’t all declare a winner – but here’s how some of you weighed in on what just happened: | We asked, you answered. Well you didn’t all declare a winner – but here’s how some of you weighed in on what just happened: |
Pretty boring debate!!! Trump win simply because the others need a knockout and really just not alot happened. | Pretty boring debate!!! Trump win simply because the others need a knockout and really just not alot happened. |
Carson endorsement main story of the day. | Carson endorsement main story of the day. |
Guardian says Rubio won, various other pundits say the same or Cruz ergo Trump won and Kasich came second by default other two performed horribly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | Guardian says Rubio won, various other pundits say the same or Cruz ergo Trump won and Kasich came second by default other two performed horribly ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
I don’t know that we have declared a Rubio victory... we did think he ran circles around Trump on Cuba: | I don’t know that we have declared a Rubio victory... we did think he ran circles around Trump on Cuba: |
Related: Marco Rubio scores at GOP debate with condemnation of Obama's Cuba policy | Related: Marco Rubio scores at GOP debate with condemnation of Obama's Cuba policy |
Trump pretty much mailed this one in, sort of just riding with the waves. Kasich was also pretty weak, disappointing as he is a candidate I have supported. | Trump pretty much mailed this one in, sort of just riding with the waves. Kasich was also pretty weak, disappointing as he is a candidate I have supported. |
Rubio easily won the debate, very eloquent. Where has he been all this time? Cruz also had a good debate, but not at the level of Rubio. | Rubio easily won the debate, very eloquent. Where has he been all this time? Cruz also had a good debate, but not at the level of Rubio. |
As others have said here, the other three candidates certainly should have gone after Donald on violence at these circus like Trump rallies. | As others have said here, the other three candidates certainly should have gone after Donald on violence at these circus like Trump rallies. |
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Lucia Graves | Lucia Graves |
Marco Rubio had an uncommonly strong debate night tonight – and he certainly needed it after poor performances in the last two and an embarrassing finish in Saturday’s primaries. His route to the nomination looks increasingly impossible, and perhaps that now-or-never realization was what unleashed his tongue. | Marco Rubio had an uncommonly strong debate night tonight – and he certainly needed it after poor performances in the last two and an embarrassing finish in Saturday’s primaries. His route to the nomination looks increasingly impossible, and perhaps that now-or-never realization was what unleashed his tongue. |
When a moderator asked Rubio about opening up diplomatic relations with Cuba and, specifically, why he thinks the president and Donald Trump and the American people are all wrong about their willingness to do so, Rubio said he would love for the US to change its relationship with Cuba, but that that ‘would first require the Cuban government to change’. | When a moderator asked Rubio about opening up diplomatic relations with Cuba and, specifically, why he thinks the president and Donald Trump and the American people are all wrong about their willingness to do so, Rubio said he would love for the US to change its relationship with Cuba, but that that ‘would first require the Cuban government to change’. |
Later, when Trump seemed to have no idea what to say about US policy with Cuba, Rubio seemed ready to explain it to him. | Later, when Trump seemed to have no idea what to say about US policy with Cuba, Rubio seemed ready to explain it to him. |
Earlier, when Trump accused him of being politically correct in his nuanced approach to relations with Muslims, Rubio had a clever retort: ‘I’m not interested in being politically correct – I’m interested in being correct.’ And on the question of climate change, he drew applause with more pithy bon mots. He said Miami was in trouble because it was built on a swamp and that ‘as far as a law we can pass in Washington to change the weather, there’s no such thing’. | Earlier, when Trump accused him of being politically correct in his nuanced approach to relations with Muslims, Rubio had a clever retort: ‘I’m not interested in being politically correct – I’m interested in being correct.’ And on the question of climate change, he drew applause with more pithy bon mots. He said Miami was in trouble because it was built on a swamp and that ‘as far as a law we can pass in Washington to change the weather, there’s no such thing’. |
Late in the debate Rubio acknowledged of his Not-So-Super Tuesday, ‘I didn’t do as well as I would have liked,’ but he added that a story his wife had told him about a supporter who believed in him through thick and thin had given him strength. | Late in the debate Rubio acknowledged of his Not-So-Super Tuesday, ‘I didn’t do as well as I would have liked,’ but he added that a story his wife had told him about a supporter who believed in him through thick and thin had given him strength. |
If losing is really what gives him strength, perhaps it’s too bad he didn’t do it earlier. | If losing is really what gives him strength, perhaps it’s too bad he didn’t do it earlier. |
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Michelle Fields, the Breitbart reporter yanked around and bruised by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on Tuesday, expresses disappointment that the debate moderators did not confront Trump about his campaign’s denial of the incident, despite an audio recording of it and witness account: | Michelle Fields, the Breitbart reporter yanked around and bruised by Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski on Tuesday, expresses disappointment that the debate moderators did not confront Trump about his campaign’s denial of the incident, despite an audio recording of it and witness account: |
Really a shame @hughhewitt @jaketapper | Really a shame @hughhewitt @jaketapper |
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Clinton posts her usual post-debate provocation: | Clinton posts her usual post-debate provocation: |
Debate one of these guys? Bring it on. #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/k9SNv0T3cL | Debate one of these guys? Bring it on. #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/k9SNv0T3cL |
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Closing statements | Closing statements |
Kasich: I’ve tried to be positive. I wanted to raise the bar in presidential politics. [This sounds like a valedictory.] “I will continue to run a positive campaign. I can fix it, I’ve done it before.” Federal power to the states. [This is a long closing statement.] My beloved Buckeyes. | Kasich: I’ve tried to be positive. I wanted to raise the bar in presidential politics. [This sounds like a valedictory.] “I will continue to run a positive campaign. I can fix it, I’ve done it before.” Federal power to the states. [This is a long closing statement.] My beloved Buckeyes. |
Rubio: Great to be home in Miami. My father was a bartender. I’m a presidential candidate. My parents wanted me to live their dream. That was possible because America is special. Now the moment has arrived for our generation to do our part. The single greatest nation ever. | Rubio: Great to be home in Miami. My father was a bartender. I’m a presidential candidate. My parents wanted me to live their dream. That was possible because America is special. Now the moment has arrived for our generation to do our part. The single greatest nation ever. |
Cruz: What an incredible nation we have. That the son of a bartender and the son of a mailman and the son of a dishwasher and a successful businessman” could be running for president. Who will best represent our values, who will best defend your values and fight for you? I cannot wait to stand on this stage [against Hillary Clinton]. Cops firefighters soldiers. | Cruz: What an incredible nation we have. That the son of a bartender and the son of a mailman and the son of a dishwasher and a successful businessman” could be running for president. Who will best represent our values, who will best defend your values and fight for you? I cannot wait to stand on this stage [against Hillary Clinton]. Cops firefighters soldiers. |
Trump: New Republican voters – they’re coming by the millions. We should seize that opportunity. These are people that will win us the election. Fabulous supreme court justices. If we lose... it will take centuries to recover. Unify. Be smart and unify. | Trump: New Republican voters – they’re coming by the millions. We should seize that opportunity. These are people that will win us the election. Fabulous supreme court justices. If we lose... it will take centuries to recover. Unify. Be smart and unify. |
Perfect close from Trump: Who you gonna believe, the pollsters or the arenas I'm filling with voters? | Perfect close from Trump: Who you gonna believe, the pollsters or the arenas I'm filling with voters? |
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Lucia Graves | Lucia Graves |
A classic bit of victim blaming: Trump, asked by a moderator about the repeated violence against protesters and members of the media at his rallies, did what you might expect – he vilified the protesters. | A classic bit of victim blaming: Trump, asked by a moderator about the repeated violence against protesters and members of the media at his rallies, did what you might expect – he vilified the protesters. |
‘We have some protesters. They are bad dudes. They are swinging,’ Trump said. | ‘We have some protesters. They are bad dudes. They are swinging,’ Trump said. |
This came on the heels of a report that his own campaign manager assaulted a member of the media at an event in Jupiter, Florida, this week, and multiple incidents – many videotaped – involving peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters. | This came on the heels of a report that his own campaign manager assaulted a member of the media at an event in Jupiter, Florida, this week, and multiple incidents – many videotaped – involving peaceful Black Lives Matter protesters. |
‘They get in there and they’re hitting people,’ Trump alleged of the protesters, adding: ‘They’ve got to be taken out, we’ve got to run something … and it’s not me, it’s usually the police.’ | ‘They get in there and they’re hitting people,’ Trump alleged of the protesters, adding: ‘They’ve got to be taken out, we’ve got to run something … and it’s not me, it’s usually the police.’ |
Related: Black protester detained after being sucker-punched at Trump rally | Related: Black protester detained after being sucker-punched at Trump rally |
Trump’s response is part of a larger culture of denying responsibility for the violence that takes place at his rallies. This week we saw just how far up into his campaign that culture extends. | Trump’s response is part of a larger culture of denying responsibility for the violence that takes place at his rallies. This week we saw just how far up into his campaign that culture extends. |
Most troubling of all, perhaps, was that none of the other candidates seemed to want to condemn the violence at Trump events, either. Instead his chief rival, Ted Cruz, used the opportunity to align Trump with Obama: ‘We’ve seen for seven years someone who believes he’s above the law, who thinks he’s an emperor.’ | Most troubling of all, perhaps, was that none of the other candidates seemed to want to condemn the violence at Trump events, either. Instead his chief rival, Ted Cruz, used the opportunity to align Trump with Obama: ‘We’ve seen for seven years someone who believes he’s above the law, who thinks he’s an emperor.’ |
What about whether anyone in his administration reportedly physically assaulted anyone? How about that? | What about whether anyone in his administration reportedly physically assaulted anyone? How about that? |
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