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Labour-Plaid first minister deadlock talks continue | Labour-Plaid first minister deadlock talks continue |
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Talks are set to continue between the leaders of Labour and Plaid Cymru on Thursday after AMs failed to elect a first minister. | Talks are set to continue between the leaders of Labour and Plaid Cymru on Thursday after AMs failed to elect a first minister. |
The discussions between Carwyn Jones and Leanne Wood follow Wednesday's tied Senedd vote for the top job. | The discussions between Carwyn Jones and Leanne Wood follow Wednesday's tied Senedd vote for the top job. |
Meanwhile Liberal Democrat AM Kirsty Williams has said she has not "done a deal" with Labour. | Meanwhile Liberal Democrat AM Kirsty Williams has said she has not "done a deal" with Labour. |
She was the only opposition member to back Mr Jones, with UKIP and the Tories joining Plaid to vote for Ms Wood. | She was the only opposition member to back Mr Jones, with UKIP and the Tories joining Plaid to vote for Ms Wood. |
Mr Jones had been expected to be reinstated as first minister of a minority government in the first Senedd session of the new assembly term. | Mr Jones had been expected to be reinstated as first minister of a minority government in the first Senedd session of the new assembly term. |
But the meeting had to be adjourned to a later date after AMs voted 29-29. | But the meeting had to be adjourned to a later date after AMs voted 29-29. |
Presiding officer Elin Jones of Plaid Cymru and her deputy - Labour's Ann Jones - did not vote. | Presiding officer Elin Jones of Plaid Cymru and her deputy - Labour's Ann Jones - did not vote. |
Mr Jones and Ms Wood had already spoken prior to the tied vote, following last Thursday's election which left Labour on 29 seats, one short of a majority. | Mr Jones and Ms Wood had already spoken prior to the tied vote, following last Thursday's election which left Labour on 29 seats, one short of a majority. |
It is understood there is nothing new being offered to Plaid Cymru, and it is not clear where and when any talks might take place. | It is understood there is nothing new being offered to Plaid Cymru, and it is not clear where and when any talks might take place. |
Labour sources said Plaid was previously offered involvement in a formal process on the setting of the Welsh budget, as well as an opportunity to help design the legislative programme. | Labour sources said Plaid was previously offered involvement in a formal process on the setting of the Welsh budget, as well as an opportunity to help design the legislative programme. |
Plaid said Ms Wood had requested a week for further discussions at the meeting - an offer Plaid claimed was turned down by Labour. | Plaid said Ms Wood had requested a week for further discussions at the meeting - an offer Plaid claimed was turned down by Labour. |
'Not respectful' | 'Not respectful' |
Simon Thomas, Plaid AM, told BBC Radio Wales relationships between Plaid and Labour "are not at their best". | Simon Thomas, Plaid AM, told BBC Radio Wales relationships between Plaid and Labour "are not at their best". |
"They started to go downhill just before the election when our co-operation with Labour was dismissed by a Labour minister as a cheap date", he told the Good Morning Wales programme, referring to comments by former Rhondda AM Leighton Andrews that prompted Plaid AMs to oppose the Public Health Bill. | "They started to go downhill just before the election when our co-operation with Labour was dismissed by a Labour minister as a cheap date", he told the Good Morning Wales programme, referring to comments by former Rhondda AM Leighton Andrews that prompted Plaid AMs to oppose the Public Health Bill. |
Mr Thomas said "simply turning up in the assembly and nominating Carwyn Jones without a word as to what sort of government he will be leading" was "simply not good enough and it is not respectful enough of all parties involved". | Mr Thomas said "simply turning up in the assembly and nominating Carwyn Jones without a word as to what sort of government he will be leading" was "simply not good enough and it is not respectful enough of all parties involved". |
Labour AM Alun Davies told the same programme that Plaid's move came out of the blue and that his party had the "right and mandate to govern". | Labour AM Alun Davies told the same programme that Plaid's move came out of the blue and that his party had the "right and mandate to govern". |
But he added: "I accept completely that we need to be more open. | But he added: "I accept completely that we need to be more open. |
"We need to be transparent. We need to be inclusive. We have to reach out. That isn't in question." | "We need to be transparent. We need to be inclusive. We have to reach out. That isn't in question." |
'No deal' | 'No deal' |
On Wednesday, Labour accused Plaid of doing a deal with the Welsh Conservatives and UKIP - something which Plaid denied. | On Wednesday, Labour accused Plaid of doing a deal with the Welsh Conservatives and UKIP - something which Plaid denied. |
But Tory AM Paul Davies told BBC Radio Cymru's Post Cyntaf programme that no deal had been made between the opposition parties before the vote to elect a first minister. | But Tory AM Paul Davies told BBC Radio Cymru's Post Cyntaf programme that no deal had been made between the opposition parties before the vote to elect a first minister. |
"What we wanted to show yesterday is that Labour doesn't have some divine right to govern. | "What we wanted to show yesterday is that Labour doesn't have some divine right to govern. |
"At the end of the day, Labour doesn't have a majority." | "At the end of the day, Labour doesn't have a majority." |
Mr Davies added: "There will be some interaction between the opposition parties in the coming days. I think the people of Wales will expect that. Then, we'll see what comes next after those discussions." | Mr Davies added: "There will be some interaction between the opposition parties in the coming days. I think the people of Wales will expect that. Then, we'll see what comes next after those discussions." |
Meanwhile Liberal Democrat AM Kirsty Williams told BBC's The Wales Report: "I have not done a deal with the Labour Party. My decision was based on the reality of the election result." | Meanwhile Liberal Democrat AM Kirsty Williams told BBC's The Wales Report: "I have not done a deal with the Labour Party. My decision was based on the reality of the election result." |
When asked Labour had offered her a seat in the cabinet, she said: "No, I met with Carwyn Jones, as I met with Leanne Wood and I've met with Andrew RT Davies, but the basis of my vote was not on the basis of any deal." | When asked Labour had offered her a seat in the cabinet, she said: "No, I met with Carwyn Jones, as I met with Leanne Wood and I've met with Andrew RT Davies, but the basis of my vote was not on the basis of any deal." |
AMs are expected to meet again next week in order to repeat the first minister vote. | AMs are expected to meet again next week in order to repeat the first minister vote. |
Analysis by Nick Servini, BBC Wales political editor | |
Any idea that there could be a harmonious working relationship between Labour and Plaid over the next five years has been well and truly put to bed. | |
The damage to Labour is clear. On the first day of the assembly, it does not appear to be in control of the situation. | |
There is a difference between a minority government calling the shots and an administration being bounced around by the opposition parties. | |
If Labour can not put together a government when it wants to, the inevitable question is what that means for prospects for completing what it called the "decade of delivery" in the election campaign. | |
The danger for Plaid is also clear, and revolves around the question of how toxic the association with UKIP will be for the party. | |
Read more from Nick. |