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EU referendum live: Corbyn says Labour would veto TTIP trade deal EU referendum live: Corbyn says Labour would veto TTIP trade deal
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Earlier Boris Johnson sold a cow at the cattle market.
Boris Johnson has just sold this cow for £960. pic.twitter.com/oRTb8uklps
And here are two tweets from my colleague Rowena Mason, who is covering Johnson’s visit.
Quite difficult to hear questions above the mooing but I think a farmer has just said he doesn't trust Boris promises about subsidies
Again Boris Johnson making promises about what will happen post Brexit when he is not actually in a position of power to do so (yet)
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This is from the FT’s Jim Pickard.
Senior Labour figure says Corbyn speech amounts to "sabotage" of Remain camp.
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Here is the New Statesman’s Stephen Bush on Jeremy Corbyn’s speech. And here is an excerpt.
On that metric, Corbyn’s speech today went very well. He made enough pro-EU noises to make grumbling from Labour’s more committed pro-Europeans look insurrectionist rather than constructive. He chucked a bit of red meat at his core supporters, bashing TTIP – a treaty that is now looks to be dead on arrival in any case - and re-announcing that a Labour government would renationalise the railways. And, crucially, he did just enough to hint to those few Labour MPs and activists who are anti-European that he might just possibly remain on their side, really ...
And just as the Prime Minister’s skill in holding his party together will be largely underappreciated until after he’s gone, Corbyn’s tightrope-walk is further evidence that he is a better player of the game of Labour politics than many of his opponents might wish.
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Boris Johnson is speaking now at a Vote Leave event in Clitheroe, in Lancashire, at what seems to be a cattle market.
He says, if we left the EU, the government would maintain its support for farmers.
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Jeremy Corbyn's speech - Summary and analysisJeremy Corbyn's speech - Summary and analysis
Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised in some quarters for not being willing to campaign alongside David Cameron for EU membership but after today’s speech any such complaints are totally superfluous. Corbyn and Cameron could never share a platform because, in relation to their views on the EU, there is virtually no overlap at all.Jeremy Corbyn has been criticised in some quarters for not being willing to campaign alongside David Cameron for EU membership but after today’s speech any such complaints are totally superfluous. Corbyn and Cameron could never share a platform because, in relation to their views on the EU, there is virtually no overlap at all.
It is said by people who know him well that Corbyn would privately be quite happy to leave the EU (a view that he has has helped to substantiate by stressing that his position now is partly dictated by what the Labour party thinks) and some of the passages in this speech devoted to listing the benefits of the EU did sound half-hearted. But, given that he is not a Mandelsonian Europhile, it would be a great mistake to pretend that he was. Instead, Corbyn has identified a Remain argument that he can make with 100% conviction. He may not be opposed to Brexit, but does believe a Tory Brexit (ie, Brexit, combined with a Tory government likely to see this as an opportunity for a deregulatory free-for-all) would be “a disaster for the majority of people in Britain”. That’s not a case he could make credibly standing alongside Cameron.It is said by people who know him well that Corbyn would privately be quite happy to leave the EU (a view that he has has helped to substantiate by stressing that his position now is partly dictated by what the Labour party thinks) and some of the passages in this speech devoted to listing the benefits of the EU did sound half-hearted. But, given that he is not a Mandelsonian Europhile, it would be a great mistake to pretend that he was. Instead, Corbyn has identified a Remain argument that he can make with 100% conviction. He may not be opposed to Brexit, but does believe a Tory Brexit (ie, Brexit, combined with a Tory government likely to see this as an opportunity for a deregulatory free-for-all) would be “a disaster for the majority of people in Britain”. That’s not a case he could make credibly standing alongside Cameron.
The two men also disagree fundamentally on TTIP (the transatlantic trade and investment partnership, the proposed US/EU trade deal). Corbyn has expressed reservations about TTIP repeatedly in the past, but his commitment to opposing, or vetoing, it unless his concerns are met seemed stronger than anything said before. (Interestingly, it also opens up the question of whether a Corbyn-led government would continue to support EU membership after 2020 if TTIP were by then in place.) Corbyn was also quite powerful on the subject of immigration, arguing passionately that it was not migrant workers who undercut wages, but unscrupulous employers.The two men also disagree fundamentally on TTIP (the transatlantic trade and investment partnership, the proposed US/EU trade deal). Corbyn has expressed reservations about TTIP repeatedly in the past, but his commitment to opposing, or vetoing, it unless his concerns are met seemed stronger than anything said before. (Interestingly, it also opens up the question of whether a Corbyn-led government would continue to support EU membership after 2020 if TTIP were by then in place.) Corbyn was also quite powerful on the subject of immigration, arguing passionately that it was not migrant workers who undercut wages, but unscrupulous employers.
Corbyn also opened up a rift with the Tories on Remain tactics, rubbishing the Treasury’s “Project Fear” tactics and dismissing George Osborne’s warnings about the economy. Corbyn is, of course, right to say that some of the warnings from Remain have been hyperbolic, although whether is helpful to the campaign to say that now is another matter. And he was also rather vague, in his final answer in the Q&A, as to what he thought the negative consequences of Brexit would be. (See 10.56am.)Corbyn also opened up a rift with the Tories on Remain tactics, rubbishing the Treasury’s “Project Fear” tactics and dismissing George Osborne’s warnings about the economy. Corbyn is, of course, right to say that some of the warnings from Remain have been hyperbolic, although whether is helpful to the campaign to say that now is another matter. And he was also rather vague, in his final answer in the Q&A, as to what he thought the negative consequences of Brexit would be. (See 10.56am.)
Which takes us on to the way the journalists were treated at the event, the booing after ITV’s Chris Ship asked a question about the claim that Corbyn’s campaigning has been half-hearted (see 10.36am) and the hissing at the very mention of the name Laura Kuenssberg (see 11.19am.) This has happened before, and not just at Labour events, and compared to the hazards some reporters face in the course of their work, it is trivial. But it is also indicative of a growing tendency to demonise the media which ought to be worrying if people are still reliant on them (us) to inform the public.Which takes us on to the way the journalists were treated at the event, the booing after ITV’s Chris Ship asked a question about the claim that Corbyn’s campaigning has been half-hearted (see 10.36am) and the hissing at the very mention of the name Laura Kuenssberg (see 11.19am.) This has happened before, and not just at Labour events, and compared to the hazards some reporters face in the course of their work, it is trivial. But it is also indicative of a growing tendency to demonise the media which ought to be worrying if people are still reliant on them (us) to inform the public.
Here are the key points from the speech.Here are the key points from the speech.
There are just three weeks to go until the referendum vote on 23 June, but too much of the debate so far has been dominated by myth-making and prophecies of doom. In the final stage of this referendum, as we get closer to what is expected by many to be a very tight vote, it does not help the debate over such a serious issue if the hype and histrionic claims continue or worse intensify ...There are just three weeks to go until the referendum vote on 23 June, but too much of the debate so far has been dominated by myth-making and prophecies of doom. In the final stage of this referendum, as we get closer to what is expected by many to be a very tight vote, it does not help the debate over such a serious issue if the hype and histrionic claims continue or worse intensify ...
Just over a week ago, George Osborne claimed that the British economy would enter a year-long recession if we voted to leave. This is the same George Osborne who predicted his austerity policies would close the deficit by 2015. That’s now scheduled for 2021.Just over a week ago, George Osborne claimed that the British economy would enter a year-long recession if we voted to leave. This is the same George Osborne who predicted his austerity policies would close the deficit by 2015. That’s now scheduled for 2021.
It’s the same George Osborne who said the British economy would be “carried aloft by the march of the makers” yet the manufacturing sector has stagnated ever since, and manufacturing employment declined.It’s the same George Osborne who said the British economy would be “carried aloft by the march of the makers” yet the manufacturing sector has stagnated ever since, and manufacturing employment declined.
Too often the British government has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into acting to protect our own environment. As we know, we have a prime minister who has lurched from ‘hug a husky’ when he became Tory leader to, a decade on, ‘gas a badger’ and ‘poison the bees’. “Britain has dragged its heels, so much for David Cameron’s rhetoric of ‘leading the greenest government ever’.Too often the British government has had to be dragged kicking and screaming into acting to protect our own environment. As we know, we have a prime minister who has lurched from ‘hug a husky’ when he became Tory leader to, a decade on, ‘gas a badger’ and ‘poison the bees’. “Britain has dragged its heels, so much for David Cameron’s rhetoric of ‘leading the greenest government ever’.
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Here’s a clip of Laura Kuenssberg’s question, and the moment she was hissed by Labour supporters.Here’s a clip of Laura Kuenssberg’s question, and the moment she was hissed by Labour supporters.
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Global Justice Now, a campaign group, has welcomed Jeremy Corbyn’s statement about Labour’s opposition to TTIP. In a statement Nick Dearden, its director, said defeat of the deal was now “a real possibility”.Global Justice Now, a campaign group, has welcomed Jeremy Corbyn’s statement about Labour’s opposition to TTIP. In a statement Nick Dearden, its director, said defeat of the deal was now “a real possibility”.
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Q: [From the FT’s Jim Pickard] You said George Osborne’s warnings about recession are histrionic. Do you think there would be no negative effects from Brexit?Q: [From the FT’s Jim Pickard] You said George Osborne’s warnings about recession are histrionic. Do you think there would be no negative effects from Brexit?
Corbyn says there would be effects. But we have to have a serious discussion, not deal with the whole thing “on the basis of a fear agenda”, he says.Corbyn says there would be effects. But we have to have a serious discussion, not deal with the whole thing “on the basis of a fear agenda”, he says.
He says Labour is supporting Remain. But it is “not unconditional support for everything the European Union does”, he says.He says Labour is supporting Remain. But it is “not unconditional support for everything the European Union does”, he says.
He says he is putting the social Europe case, and the case for Remain and reform of the EU.He says he is putting the social Europe case, and the case for Remain and reform of the EU.
And that’s it.And that’s it.
I’ll post a summary and reaction shortly.I’ll post a summary and reaction shortly.
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Q: [From Channel 4 News’ Gary Gibbon] If TTIP were signed before the referendum, could you support Remain.Q: [From Channel 4 News’ Gary Gibbon] If TTIP were signed before the referendum, could you support Remain.
Corbyn says that is a hypothetical question.Corbyn says that is a hypothetical question.
Q: That sounds like half-hearted support ...Q: That sounds like half-hearted support ...
No, says Corbyn. He says he is just saying it is a hypothetical question.No, says Corbyn. He says he is just saying it is a hypothetical question.
He says TTIP is a “seminal moment” in the extension of corporate power. It is strongly opposed in the US, he says.He says TTIP is a “seminal moment” in the extension of corporate power. It is strongly opposed in the US, he says.
He says there is also an issue to do with the regulations on imported goods.He says there is also an issue to do with the regulations on imported goods.
What happens if you have tough regulations, but the same rules do not cover imports. “You can end up exporting pollution,” he says.What happens if you have tough regulations, but the same rules do not cover imports. “You can end up exporting pollution,” he says.
He says trade can be beneficial. But if corporations just have the whip hand, then rights are weakened.He says trade can be beneficial. But if corporations just have the whip hand, then rights are weakened.
He thanks Gibbon for his question.He thanks Gibbon for his question.
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Corbyn says EU rules protecting workers should be tougherCorbyn says EU rules protecting workers should be tougher
Q: A lot of people do not know about workers’ rights, and how they are relevant. What can we do about this? And how would you extend workers’ rights.Q: A lot of people do not know about workers’ rights, and how they are relevant. What can we do about this? And how would you extend workers’ rights.
Corbyn says the posting of workers’ directive is important. And he says the agency workers directive needs to be toughened. And he calls for some tightening of TUPE, the transfer of undertaking (protection of employees) rule.Corbyn says the posting of workers’ directive is important. And he says the agency workers directive needs to be toughened. And he calls for some tightening of TUPE, the transfer of undertaking (protection of employees) rule.
And he calls for tougher rules on zero-hours contracts. These are “cruel and unfair” because people do not know what hours they will get. He says he has come across far too many cases of constituents losing benefits because they did not know what hours they would be working. He says there should be basic rights across the EU. There are too many companies, especially in the fast food industry, making huge profits from the work of people on these contracts, he says.And he calls for tougher rules on zero-hours contracts. These are “cruel and unfair” because people do not know what hours they will get. He says he has come across far too many cases of constituents losing benefits because they did not know what hours they would be working. He says there should be basic rights across the EU. There are too many companies, especially in the fast food industry, making huge profits from the work of people on these contracts, he says.
He says Labour’s Workplace 2020 initiative is developing policies to address these problems.He says Labour’s Workplace 2020 initiative is developing policies to address these problems.
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Corbyn says we need to do more about air quality. If we do not take action, how many more children will have harmed lung capacity, he asks.Corbyn says we need to do more about air quality. If we do not take action, how many more children will have harmed lung capacity, he asks.
He says you can only deal with environmental pollution by working together.He says you can only deal with environmental pollution by working together.
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Corbyn is now taking questions from Labour activists in the audience.Corbyn is now taking questions from Labour activists in the audience.
Q: Are the Tories determined to slash workers’ rights if we leave the EU?Q: Are the Tories determined to slash workers’ rights if we leave the EU?
Corbyn says we can either enforce workers’ rights, or have a race to the bottom.Corbyn says we can either enforce workers’ rights, or have a race to the bottom.
He says he is convinced that the Tories leading the Leave campaign would, in their own words, start a “bonfire of regulations” on 24 June if the UK left the EU. Regulations do not sound very nice, he says. But he says they offer vital protections.He says he is convinced that the Tories leading the Leave campaign would, in their own words, start a “bonfire of regulations” on 24 June if the UK left the EU. Regulations do not sound very nice, he says. But he says they offer vital protections.
He says is is arguing for staying in the EU in order to build on what we have achieved, not destroy what we have achieved.He says is is arguing for staying in the EU in order to build on what we have achieved, not destroy what we have achieved.
UPDATE: Here Bloomberg’s Thomas Penny on the question.UPDATE: Here Bloomberg’s Thomas Penny on the question.
Question from the floor for Corbyn: "just how evil are the Tories?" (I only paraphrase slightly)Question from the floor for Corbyn: "just how evil are the Tories?" (I only paraphrase slightly)
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The BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg gets called.The BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg gets called.
She gets hissed by some in the audience. Corbyn urges people to stop.She gets hissed by some in the audience. Corbyn urges people to stop.
Q: This morning the GMB general secretary Tim Roache said you are failing to get your message across. Is he right?Q: This morning the GMB general secretary Tim Roache said you are failing to get your message across. Is he right?
Corbyn says he is speaking to a GMB event on Sunday. He is getting his message out, he says. He says he is campaigning to extend and defend workers’ rights. He says it is the government’s austerity policies that are causing problems.Corbyn says he is speaking to a GMB event on Sunday. He is getting his message out, he says. He says he is campaigning to extend and defend workers’ rights. He says it is the government’s austerity policies that are causing problems.
He says people should not blame migrants. It is unscrupulous employers who are to blame, he says. He says he will keep going on about the posting of workers directive. (See 10.21am.)He says people should not blame migrants. It is unscrupulous employers who are to blame, he says. He says he will keep going on about the posting of workers directive. (See 10.21am.)
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Q: [From Sky] Are you in danger of muddying the waters by attacking the Remain camp hype?
Corbyn says he does not accept that. He is putting a serious case for staying in the EU, he says.
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Corbyn's Q&A
Corbyn is now taking questions.
Q: [From ITV’s Chris Ship] If Labour voters are key to winning the referendum, why do only half of them know the Labour party supports Remain. And can you say hand on heart you have campaigned as hard as you can for Remain?
Corbyn says it is partly down to the media, and how they report the Labour party.
This gets a loud cheer from the Labour activists in the audience.
He says he has done a great deal of campaigning. There are no no-go areas for his campaign, he says. He says come the vote no one will be in any doubt what Labour’s views are.
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Corbyn is getting a standing ovation.
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Corbyn is now wrapping up.
There is an overwhelming case to remain and reform so that we build on the best that Europe has achieved.
But that will only happen if we elect a Labour government, committed to engaging with our allies to deliver real improvements in the lives of the people of our country.
That is why we established the Labour In campaign, because we have a distinct agenda, a vision to make Britain better and fairer for everyone, by engaging with our neighbours.
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Corbyn says Labour would re-establish the migrant impact fund
Corbyn turns to immigration, and he says Labour would re-establish the migrant impact fund.
On migration, we cannot deny the inevitable; we live in a smaller world. Most of us in Britain know someone who has studied, worked or retired abroad. We have reciprocal arrangements with the European Union. Our citizens, well over one million of them, live in other EU countries and EU citizens come to live and work here.
But it is not that simple, I’ve already talked about how some industries are affected by the undercutting of wages and the action that can be taken to tackle that. But some communities can change dramatically and rapidly and that can be disconcerting for some people. That doesn’t make them Little Englanders, xenophobes or racists. More people living in an area can put real pressure on local services like GPs surgeries, schools and housing.
This isn’t the fault of migrants. It’s a failure of government. The coalition government in 2010 abolished the Migrant Impact Fund; a national fund to manage the short term impacts of migration on local communities. By abolishing it, David Cameron’s Coalition undermined the proper preparation and investment that communities need to adapt.
We are clear, we would restore such a fund.
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Corbyn on TTIP
I’ve just received the text of Corbyn’s speech. Here is the passage on TTIP in full.
Many thousands of people have written to me, with their concerns about the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (or T-TIP) the deal being negotiated, largely in secret, between the US and the EU.
Many people are concerned rightly, that it could open up public services to further privatisation – and make privatisation effectively irreversible. Others are concerned about any potential watering down of consumer rights, food safety standards, rights at work or environmental protections and the facility for corporations to sue national governments if regulations impinged on their profits.
I share those concerns.
A few weeks ago the French President, Francois Hollande, said he would veto the deal as it stands and to become law any deal would have to be ratified by each member state. So today we give this pledge, as it stands, we too would reject TTIP – and veto it in government.
And there is a challenge to the prime minister, if it’s not good enough for France; it’s not good enough for Britain either.
David Cameron make clear now that if Britain votes to remain this month you will block any TTIP trade treaty that threatens our public services, our consumer and employment rights and that hands over power to giant corporations to override democratically elected governments.
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Corbyn says other EU countries have done better at protecting industries like the steel industry.
But he says he thinks EU rules are too restrictive.
He urges the UK government to act rapidly to protect the Port Talbot steelworks.
And he says Labour wants to bring the railways into public ownership.
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Corbyn says Labour opposed to TTIP “as it stands” and would veto it if it were in government
Corbyn says many people are concerned about the transatlantic trade and investment partnership, TTIP, the proposed EU-US trade deal.
He says he has read and thought a great deal about this, and that he shares all the concerns raised.
He says the French president has also expressed concerns about it.
He says Labour would reject TTIP “as it stands” and veto it if he were in government.
He challenges Cameron to say too that he would block TTIP if it threatened public services.
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Corbyn says he recently held talks with Alexis Tsipras, the Greek prime minister.
The Greeks want to stay in the EU, but in a reformed EU, he says.
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Corbyn says it is not migrants who undercut wages but unscrupulous employers
Corbyn says Labour wants the EU to reform.
He says there has to be a humanitarian response to the refugee crisis.
He says the EU should use its collective negotiating power “to stop corporations taking consumers to the cleaners”.
He says he recently asked Cameron at PMQs to reform the posting of workers directive. This would stop workers being sent abroad, and being paid less than the rate paid locally. The government must back this, he says. Abuses are rare, but this loophole only benefits unscrupulous employers, he says.
He says it is not migrants that undercut wages, but unscrupulous employers. Migrant workers are often victims of the worst exploitation, he says.