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| Vice-presidential debate: Mike Pence and Tim Kaine to face off – live | Vice-presidential debate: Mike Pence and Tim Kaine to face off – live |
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| Mike Pence hosted a conservative talk show for five years in the 1990s after two failed congressional bids. (He went on to become a six-term congressman and a member of the Republican leadership.) | |
| On YouTube you can find footage of the final three minutes of Pence’s show. Trigger warning: it’s nuclear-grade patriotic and pretty sappy: “When those planes fly over speedway Indiana, there’ll be a little bit of mist in this American’s eyes, cause you got the job done.” | |
| When Tim Kaine gets around a microphone, meanwhile, a different kind of patriotism spills forth – the kind you blow through a harmonica on the Robert Johnson tune Travelling Riverside Blues: | |
| Let’s have an audience quiz: Who played it better? Tim Kaine – or Led Zeppelin? | |
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| Clinton: ‘Go get ’em, Tim’ | Clinton: ‘Go get ’em, Tim’ |
| .@TimKaine's spent his whole life fighting for working families, so I have no doubt he'll do the same tonight. Go get 'em, Tim. -H | .@TimKaine's spent his whole life fighting for working families, so I have no doubt he'll do the same tonight. Go get 'em, Tim. -H |
| And you know what, frankly? If he screws up, the Democrats can just... | And you know what, frankly? If he screws up, the Democrats can just... |
| (NB: this is not just a gratuitous Elvis Costello song embed in the blog. Kaine’s former body man told Politico in July that whenever Kaine was getting beat up in politics he would joke that Blame it on Cain was his favorite song, and then he’d play the song.) | (NB: this is not just a gratuitous Elvis Costello song embed in the blog. Kaine’s former body man told Politico in July that whenever Kaine was getting beat up in politics he would joke that Blame it on Cain was his favorite song, and then he’d play the song.) |
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| GOP announces Pence won debate | GOP announces Pence won debate |
| While you’re shooting pool, the national Republican party is playing three-dimensional chess. | While you’re shooting pool, the national Republican party is playing three-dimensional chess. |
| For example, tonight they have already released statements declaring Mike Pence the winner of the debate and Hillary Clinton the loser. | For example, tonight they have already released statements declaring Mike Pence the winner of the debate and Hillary Clinton the loser. |
| (The debate hasn’t happened yet.) | (The debate hasn’t happened yet.) |
| This seems a smidge premature. (v @becket) pic.twitter.com/wWGpawNyb0 | This seems a smidge premature. (v @becket) pic.twitter.com/wWGpawNyb0 |
| Update: | Update: |
| The GOP has replaced its premature "Mike Pence won and Tim Kaine is lame!" post with this error message: pic.twitter.com/G3BFJCudFb | The GOP has replaced its premature "Mike Pence won and Tim Kaine is lame!" post with this error message: pic.twitter.com/G3BFJCudFb |
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| Clinton camp: we're preparing for a better prepared Trump | Clinton camp: we're preparing for a better prepared Trump |
| Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook tells reporters before tonight’s debate that the campaign expects Trump to be better prepared next time around (even without, apparently, Nigel Farage’s help). | Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook tells reporters before tonight’s debate that the campaign expects Trump to be better prepared next time around (even without, apparently, Nigel Farage’s help). |
| Mook refers to two hours of videos of a Trump deposition in a lawsuit against a restaurateur that was released last week. In the deposition Trump is indeed poised. | Mook refers to two hours of videos of a Trump deposition in a lawsuit against a restaurateur that was released last week. In the deposition Trump is indeed poised. |
| Clinton manager Robby Mook, before VP debate: 'We are expecting [Donald Trump] to be better prepared for the next debate.' | Clinton manager Robby Mook, before VP debate: 'We are expecting [Donald Trump] to be better prepared for the next debate.' |
| Mook: 'We all saw those deposition tapes. We know that there is a calm, cool & collected Donald Trump that can show up, and we expect that.' | Mook: 'We all saw those deposition tapes. We know that there is a calm, cool & collected Donald Trump that can show up, and we expect that.' |
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| Meet the moderator: Elaine Quijano | Meet the moderator: Elaine Quijano |
| A veteran of the White House, Pentagon and supreme court beats and a former CNN talent, Elaine Quijano anchors politics coverage on CBSN, the live-streaming digital version of CBS News. | A veteran of the White House, Pentagon and supreme court beats and a former CNN talent, Elaine Quijano anchors politics coverage on CBSN, the live-streaming digital version of CBS News. |
| She grew up in a Chicago suburb, majored in engineering and “lucked into a broadcast journalism career”, she tells an interviewer in the Filipinas Magazine clip below: | She grew up in a Chicago suburb, majored in engineering and “lucked into a broadcast journalism career”, she tells an interviewer in the Filipinas Magazine clip below: |
| If Quijano can’t make it, there’s a backup: CSPAN’s Steve Scully, who has been hailed by comedian John Oliver as the most patient man on television: | If Quijano can’t make it, there’s a backup: CSPAN’s Steve Scully, who has been hailed by comedian John Oliver as the most patient man on television: |
| Politico’s Hadas Gold has spoken with Scully about his preparations for the big night: | Politico’s Hadas Gold has spoken with Scully about his preparations for the big night: |
| While covering the debates like the hundreds of other journalists who descend upon the four universities hosting the debates, Scully has also done the work to prepare his own separate sets of questions for every debate, as though he will be the moderator. That’s because he could end up being one. | While covering the debates like the hundreds of other journalists who descend upon the four universities hosting the debates, Scully has also done the work to prepare his own separate sets of questions for every debate, as though he will be the moderator. That’s because he could end up being one. |
| “I have the file with me,” Scully said ahead of the debate at Hofstra University last week. “If they call me at 8:59 p.m. I’m ready to go, and if they do in the next three debates I’m ready to go as well.” | “I have the file with me,” Scully said ahead of the debate at Hofstra University last week. “If they call me at 8:59 p.m. I’m ready to go, and if they do in the next three debates I’m ready to go as well.” |
| Read the full piece here. (thx @bencjacobs) | Read the full piece here. (thx @bencjacobs) |
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| Bill Clinton: 'don't lock him up. Vote' | Bill Clinton: 'don't lock him up. Vote' |
| The potential future first gentleman modifies a Barack Obama line – “don’t boo. Vote!” – to stop a crowd in Ohio from chanting “Lock Him Up” – a line in turn borrowed from Trump supporters who enjoy saying “Lock Her Up” about Hillary Clinton. | The potential future first gentleman modifies a Barack Obama line – “don’t boo. Vote!” – to stop a crowd in Ohio from chanting “Lock Him Up” – a line in turn borrowed from Trump supporters who enjoy saying “Lock Her Up” about Hillary Clinton. |
| Not calling for the imprisonment of one’s patently criminal opponent: this qualifies as high-level political discourse: | Not calling for the imprisonment of one’s patently criminal opponent: this qualifies as high-level political discourse: |
| Bill Clinton admonished audience member who says Trump should be "locked up""We don't do that," says WJC. "Don't lock him up. Vote." | Bill Clinton admonished audience member who says Trump should be "locked up""We don't do that," says WJC. "Don't lock him up. Vote." |
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| Trump say's he'll live-tweet the debate | Trump say's he'll live-tweet the debate |
| Trump, having just spoken in Arizona, is flying to Las Vegas to stay at a hotel and watch the debate, the pool of reporters covering his campaign says. | Trump, having just spoken in Arizona, is flying to Las Vegas to stay at a hotel and watch the debate, the pool of reporters covering his campaign says. |
| Trump has promised to live-tweet the debate: | Trump has promised to live-tweet the debate: |
| I will be watching the great Governor @Mike_Pence and live tweeting the VP debate tonight starting at 8:30pm est! Enjoy! | I will be watching the great Governor @Mike_Pence and live tweeting the VP debate tonight starting at 8:30pm est! Enjoy! |
| HOWEVER, we’d remind our readers that the last time Trump promised to live-tweet a debate, it was a kind of lame six-tweet dribble. | HOWEVER, we’d remind our readers that the last time Trump promised to live-tweet a debate, it was a kind of lame six-tweet dribble. |
| On the eve of a five-way Democratic debate on 13 October 2015, Trump tweeted: | On the eve of a five-way Democratic debate on 13 October 2015, Trump tweeted: |
| At the request of many, and even though I expect it to be a very boring two hours, I will be covering the Democrat Debate live on twitter! | At the request of many, and even though I expect it to be a very boring two hours, I will be covering the Democrat Debate live on twitter! |
| Here was Trump’s electrifying commentary: | Here was Trump’s electrifying commentary: |
| Should be interesting but too bad the three guys at《1% will be taking up so much time - but who knows, maybe a star will be born (unlikely) | Should be interesting but too bad the three guys at《1% will be taking up so much time - but who knows, maybe a star will be born (unlikely) |
| "@StreckerJosh: The Hillary love fest on CNN is ridiculous. I feel bad for the other candidates...especially the non-criminal ones." | "@StreckerJosh: The Hillary love fest on CNN is ridiculous. I feel bad for the other candidates...especially the non-criminal ones." |
| We will all have fun and hopefully learn something tonight. I will shoot straight and call it as I see it, both the good and the bad. Enjoy! | We will all have fun and hopefully learn something tonight. I will shoot straight and call it as I see it, both the good and the bad. Enjoy! |
| Can anyone imagine Chafee as president? No way. | Can anyone imagine Chafee as president? No way. |
| O'Malley, as former Mayor of Baltimore, has very little chance. | O'Malley, as former Mayor of Baltimore, has very little chance. |
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| From Lloyd Bentsen’s “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy” to Geraldine Ferraro’s “I almost resent, vice president Bush, your patronizing attitude” to Sarah Palin’s “Say it ain’t so, Joe” – USA Today has a medley of top moments from previous vice presidential debates (click through if video player below is not working for you): | From Lloyd Bentsen’s “Senator, you’re no Jack Kennedy” to Geraldine Ferraro’s “I almost resent, vice president Bush, your patronizing attitude” to Sarah Palin’s “Say it ain’t so, Joe” – USA Today has a medley of top moments from previous vice presidential debates (click through if video player below is not working for you): |
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| Michelle Obama: 'Clinton is tough' | Michelle Obama: 'Clinton is tough' |
| Michelle Obama campaigned for Clinton in Charlotte, North Carolina, today. | Michelle Obama campaigned for Clinton in Charlotte, North Carolina, today. |
| There’s a striking moment when the first lady is talking about Clinton’s resilience and taps her microphone in apparent reference to Trump’s blaming his lost debate Monday on a microphone malfunction: | There’s a striking moment when the first lady is talking about Clinton’s resilience and taps her microphone in apparent reference to Trump’s blaming his lost debate Monday on a microphone malfunction: |
| Hillary Clinton is tough. I watched her. When she gets knocked down, she doesn’t complain. She doesn’t cry foul. No, she gets right back up, comes back stronger. | Hillary Clinton is tough. I watched her. When she gets knocked down, she doesn’t complain. She doesn’t cry foul. No, she gets right back up, comes back stronger. |
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| Clinton hits Trump on PTSD remarks | Clinton hits Trump on PTSD remarks |
| Clinton convened a news conference after a rally today in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to discuss Trump’s remarks about veterans with PTSD, which vice president Joe Biden criticized passionately on Monday. | Clinton convened a news conference after a rally today in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, to discuss Trump’s remarks about veterans with PTSD, which vice president Joe Biden criticized passionately on Monday. |
| “Our troops deserve a commander-in-chief who respects and understands the sacrifices they make,” Clinton says. | “Our troops deserve a commander-in-chief who respects and understands the sacrifices they make,” Clinton says. |
| Then she takes a question about Trump’s taxes, saying “there are some very successful business people in America... but [Trump is] unable to release his tax records because there’s more in there... Someone who’s claiming to run for president based on his business success should be judged on his business success.” | Then she takes a question about Trump’s taxes, saying “there are some very successful business people in America... but [Trump is] unable to release his tax records because there’s more in there... Someone who’s claiming to run for president based on his business success should be judged on his business success.” |
| Then Clinton takes a softball question about how she will appeal to potentially crossover Republicans sick of Trump. And that’s where she mistakenly refers to the 35 days left in the election as 35 years (see earlier). | Then Clinton takes a softball question about how she will appeal to potentially crossover Republicans sick of Trump. And that’s where she mistakenly refers to the 35 days left in the election as 35 years (see earlier). |
| Clinton also says she’s “very confident and excited about Tim Kaine in the debate tonight.” | Clinton also says she’s “very confident and excited about Tim Kaine in the debate tonight.” |
| Clinton is asked what she learned from the first debate: | Clinton is asked what she learned from the first debate: |
| I learned that preparation is important.” | I learned that preparation is important.” |
| Here is the video of the Hillary Clinton news conference from today https://t.co/74toMNGALP | Here is the video of the Hillary Clinton news conference from today https://t.co/74toMNGALP |
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| Trump is done in Arizona. He tells people to vote on 8 November but doesn’t tell them they can start voting early in the state in about two weeks and doesn’t tell them they can vote by mail. | Trump is done in Arizona. He tells people to vote on 8 November but doesn’t tell them they can start voting early in the state in about two weeks and doesn’t tell them they can vote by mail. |
| Arizona is good for 11 electoral votes. Polling averages have Trump leading in the state, which voted for Bill Clinton in 1996 but before that had not gone Democratic in a presidential election year since Truman. | Arizona is good for 11 electoral votes. Polling averages have Trump leading in the state, which voted for Bill Clinton in 1996 but before that had not gone Democratic in a presidential election year since Truman. |
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| Each side has produced a video attacking the other side’s vice presidential nominee (the attack on Pence was produced by the Clinton campaign; the attack on Kaine was produced by the Republican national committee). | Each side has produced a video attacking the other side’s vice presidential nominee (the attack on Pence was produced by the Clinton campaign; the attack on Kaine was produced by the Republican national committee). |
| Here they are: | Here they are: |
| Mike Pence: a divisive, anti-woman, anti-LGBT, anti-worker extremist. No wonder Trump picked him. #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/icAN1P5DN2 | Mike Pence: a divisive, anti-woman, anti-LGBT, anti-worker extremist. No wonder Trump picked him. #VPDebate pic.twitter.com/icAN1P5DN2 |
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| What does the C stand for again? (That’s a joke at Clinton’s expense.) (And if you have to explain humor, it’s bad.) | What does the C stand for again? (That’s a joke at Clinton’s expense.) (And if you have to explain humor, it’s bad.) |
| Post-debate polls in PA, NC, and FL--basically must-wins for Trump:PA: C+10, C+9, C+4FL: C+5, C+4, C+2, C+1NC: C+6, C+3, C+2, C+2, C+1 | Post-debate polls in PA, NC, and FL--basically must-wins for Trump:PA: C+10, C+9, C+4FL: C+5, C+4, C+2, C+1NC: C+6, C+3, C+2, C+2, C+1 |
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| Trump is addressing a crowd now in Prescott Valley, Arizona. He’s talking about murders in Chicago. Watch it live here: | Trump is addressing a crowd now in Prescott Valley, Arizona. He’s talking about murders in Chicago. Watch it live here: |
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| Follow baseball? There’s a wildcard playoff game tonight between the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays. The game begins just after 8pm ET. And a lot of you out there on social media sound conflicted about what to watch... | Follow baseball? There’s a wildcard playoff game tonight between the Baltimore Orioles and Toronto Blue Jays. The game begins just after 8pm ET. And a lot of you out there on social media sound conflicted about what to watch... |
| You know we could just call this VP debate a tie and watch the AL wildcard instead. | You know we could just call this VP debate a tie and watch the AL wildcard instead. |
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| Andrew Anthony has interviewed Ann Coulter for the Guardian. Coulter is a perennially relevant conservative shock-jock whose inTENSE enthusiasm this election cycle for Donald Trump and his scorched-earth immigration policies was only temporarily shaken when Trump appeared this summer to be leaving those policies behind. | Andrew Anthony has interviewed Ann Coulter for the Guardian. Coulter is a perennially relevant conservative shock-jock whose inTENSE enthusiasm this election cycle for Donald Trump and his scorched-earth immigration policies was only temporarily shaken when Trump appeared this summer to be leaving those policies behind. |
| Then he got back in line and she got back in line. From the interview: | Then he got back in line and she got back in line. From the interview: |
| Do you think the Republican party will survive Donald Trump? | Do you think the Republican party will survive Donald Trump? |
| The only way it can survive is with Donald Trump. What’s really hurting his message more than anything else, especially among black voters, is that he’s a Republican. That’s what the Republican party has done to the brand. The sooner it gets rebranded the Trumpian Republican party the better. Finally, we have a candidate who cares about Americans and not just the donor class. | The only way it can survive is with Donald Trump. What’s really hurting his message more than anything else, especially among black voters, is that he’s a Republican. That’s what the Republican party has done to the brand. The sooner it gets rebranded the Trumpian Republican party the better. Finally, we have a candidate who cares about Americans and not just the donor class. |
| My testy interview w/ The Guardian! Ann Coulter on Trump: ‘Finally, we have a candidate who cares about Americans’ - https://t.co/hhTzDYoWee | My testy interview w/ The Guardian! Ann Coulter on Trump: ‘Finally, we have a candidate who cares about Americans’ - https://t.co/hhTzDYoWee |
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| Quick make a joke about this tweet: | Quick make a joke about this tweet: |
| Clinton slips and says it's 35 years, not 35 days until the election. | Clinton slips and says it's 35 years, not 35 days until the election. |
| BUZZER too late, that one’s been taken: | BUZZER too late, that one’s been taken: |
| you ok, tweeps? pic.twitter.com/c7tJFHASJ7 | you ok, tweeps? pic.twitter.com/c7tJFHASJ7 |
| (h/t @nicolepuglise) | (h/t @nicolepuglise) |
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| On the off chance your vice presidential debate night expectations are so low that they’re bringing you dangerously close to that territory of, “Hell, no, I’m not going to watch the vice-presidential debate! I’ve got closets to organize” – well, reminder: Tim Kaine has a Donald Trump impression up his sleeve. | On the off chance your vice presidential debate night expectations are so low that they’re bringing you dangerously close to that territory of, “Hell, no, I’m not going to watch the vice-presidential debate! I’ve got closets to organize” – well, reminder: Tim Kaine has a Donald Trump impression up his sleeve. |
| I wonder if Tim Kaine practiced his Donald Trump impression for tonight | I wonder if Tim Kaine practiced his Donald Trump impression for tonight |
| Sure, when he rolled it out at the national convention, it was widely panned, although most people gave him credit for trying, which was nice of them: | Sure, when he rolled it out at the national convention, it was widely panned, although most people gave him credit for trying, which was nice of them: |
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| Clinton hits Trump for body-shaming women | Clinton hits Trump for body-shaming women |
| At a town hall rally Tuesday, a student told Hillary Clinton that Trump does damage “when he talks about women and how they look” and asks how she would fix it. | At a town hall rally Tuesday, a student told Hillary Clinton that Trump does damage “when he talks about women and how they look” and asks how she would fix it. |
| Clinton says Trump has taken body shaming to a “new level of ..meanness.” | Clinton says Trump has taken body shaming to a “new level of ..meanness.” |
| “There are too many young women online who are being bullied about how they look. And who are being shamed and mistreated.” | “There are too many young women online who are being bullied about how they look. And who are being shamed and mistreated.” |