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| Coalition flags no compromise on backpacker tax after Senate votes for 10.5% – question time live | |
| (35 minutes later) | |
| 3.43am GMT | |
| 03:43 | |
| Paul Karp | |
| Greens leader Richard Di Natale has asked attorney general George Brandis about his answer yesterday on the immigration minister’s comments about allowing Lebanese migrants to come to Australia was “a mistake”. Brandis had said the remarks did not prejudice engagement with the Lebanese community. | |
| Di Natale suggests the Australian Federal Police have reached out to Muslim leaders who are concerned about Peter Dutton’s remarks that 22 of 33 people charged with terror offences are a second or third generation Lebanese immigrants. | |
| Brandis doubles down that “no such concerns have been expressed to me ... by either my department or my agencies”. | |
| Brandis demands Di Natale to reveal what his source is for the claim the AFP has contacted Muslim leaders and to quote it, then makes a great deal of the fact he chooses not to. | |
| Asked whether Dutton got his numbers right, Brandis said he is “confident any statement made by my ministerial colleague is accurate”, and said the AFP had not given him any advice Dutton’s claim is wrong. | |
| 3.42am GMT | |
| 03:42 | |
| Just back a point before the last few questions. | |
| The speaker Tony Smith admits an error in ruling out the question but flags in future, he will be tougher. | |
| That question - the final part of it is just in order, but I want to caution those asking questions that I will in future rule out of order questions that are, you know, a substantial proportion out of order just with a tag at the end. | |
| 3.40am GMT | |
| 03:40 | |
| Labor to Turnbull: Is the PM aware that the publisher of the former prime minister’s book has said, and I quote, “I expect Tony to make the case for the Liberal Party to return to its conservative roots about his new book.” Isn’t it now clear that no matter how many concessions the PM makes to extreme right of his party, it will always be followed by new policy demands? Why does the policy of this government always reflect the demands of the Liberal Party’s extreme right? | |
| Turnbull: | |
| What does it say about the Opposition that when we have great matters of financial management, when we have a ministerial statement and a bitter and virulent reply on infrastructure today, when we’ve had a ministerial statement on national security, and again another bitter and inflammatory reply from the Opposition Leader, the Opposition does not have the courage to ask one question on either matter? And instead, what we get is these childish, undergraduate questions about trying to play political games. | |
| 3.30am GMT | |
| 03:30 | |
| Labor to Morrison: I refer to reports the former prime minister, the member for Warringah, is having a range of policy ideas costed by the Parliamentary Budget Office. Has the PM been helpfully presented with any of these costed policies? | |
| The speaker rules the question out of order and moves to a government question, which relates to export trade deals though I suspect we are heading to the backpacker tax. | |
| Updated | |
| at 3.35am GMT | |
| 3.27am GMT | |
| 03:27 | |
| Paul Karp | |
| In Senate question time, Labor is asking the communications minister, Mitch Fifield, about statements on government websites that the NBN “only requires $29bn of public funding”, after the government gave it a further $19.5bn from taxpayer-backed loans. | |
| Fifield said that the equity cap of $29.5bn “remains the case”. A loan is “entirely different” because it is repaid, he said. | |
| Labor leader in the Senate, Penny Wong, interjects that this amounts to arguing “a taxpayer funded loan is not taxpayer funding!” | |
| After a follow up on whether the loan means NBN wasn’t able to borrow on commercial terms, Fifield responds that its credit ratings are good but “the government can borrow at better rates”. | |
| Ian MacDonald then repeatedly shouts “Penny! Penny!” to stop the interjections. We’re now onto a Dorothy Dixer about the ABCC bill. | |
| 3.26am GMT | |
| 03:26 | |
| Scott Morrison gets a question on the balancing the budget and threats to the AAA rating. | |
| 3.25am GMT | |
| 03:25 | |
| Rebekha Sharkie, Nick Xenophon Party to Christopher Pyne: My constituent Rick is 63 years of age. He was unemployed on Newstart and registered with Max Employment. He looked for work for over two years. Max stood to receive up to $10,000 for placing Rick in work. Max Employment sent Rick to a so-called job interview with Soft Tech Homes and won the role but he realised he was not an employee but required to pay invoices. Rick is now owed more than $12,000. He has no money nor a lawyer, no longer hears from Max Employment an...Soft Tech Homes. What checks and balances are in place so that people like Rick are not taken advantage of? | |
| Pyne, who represents employment minister Cash, says he will check on the individual and get back to Sharkie. | |
| He also says the Coalition has created 500,000 jobs since coming to government. | |
| (I would like fact check on that figure...) | |
| 3.20am GMT | |
| 03:20 | |
| Labor’s Jim Chalmers to Scott Morrison: Given no Australian worker pays any tax onthe first $18,200 of earnings, isn’t it the case that under Labor’s sensible backpacker tax proposal, there is no income level at which Australians would pay more tax than working holiday-makers? Why is the Government misleading the Australian people? | |
| Morrison says foreign workers will pay less tax than Australian workers. | |
| 3.14am GMT | |
| 03:14 | |
| Government question to Barnaby Joyce: Can the Deputy PM explain to the house why it is important for hard-working Australian farmers and workers, that the Parliament passes the 19% tax rate for backpackers? | |
| Joyce said industries had settled on the 19% tax rate and now Bill Shorten is favouring “Alberto from Milano” over local workers.. | |
| The Member for Maribyrnong is going to punish Australian workers by having somebody working beside them on a half to a third of the tax rate, doing exactly the same job. | |
| 3.09am GMT | 3.09am GMT |
| 03:09 | 03:09 |
| Chris Bowen to Turnbull: Can the PM explain to the House why he would prefer to have an internationally, uncompetitive backpacker tax rate of 32.5%, instead of agreeing to the Senate’s resolution that it should be the same as New Zealand at 10.5% why would the PM prefer to punish Australia’s tourism, agriculture and hospital apt sectors, rather than swallow his pride and accept a compromised rate of 10.5%? | Chris Bowen to Turnbull: Can the PM explain to the House why he would prefer to have an internationally, uncompetitive backpacker tax rate of 32.5%, instead of agreeing to the Senate’s resolution that it should be the same as New Zealand at 10.5% why would the PM prefer to punish Australia’s tourism, agriculture and hospital apt sectors, rather than swallow his pride and accept a compromised rate of 10.5%? |
| Turnbull flicks the question to Scott Morrison. | Turnbull flicks the question to Scott Morrison. |
| Those opposite come into this place everyday, lecturing about the need for more revenue measures, and in the other place, and in here, Mr Speaker, they have voted to give foreign workers a tax cut at the cost to the Australian taxpayer of $500m. That’s the priority of those opposite. | Those opposite come into this place everyday, lecturing about the need for more revenue measures, and in the other place, and in here, Mr Speaker, they have voted to give foreign workers a tax cut at the cost to the Australian taxpayer of $500m. That’s the priority of those opposite. |
| 3.07am GMT | 3.07am GMT |
| 03:07 | 03:07 |
| The first government question calls on Labor to support the ABCC. | The first government question calls on Labor to support the ABCC. |
| 3.06am GMT | 3.06am GMT |
| 03:06 | 03:06 |
| Coalition will not compromise on backpackers tax rate | Coalition will not compromise on backpackers tax rate |
| Question time right now in both chambers. | Question time right now in both chambers. |
| Shorten to Turnbull: Today the Senate has delivered a humiliating defeat to the government on the backpacker tax. Will the PM now accept the sensible compromise offered by the Senate? Or will the PM instead confirm that because of his government’s actions and budget incompetence, Australia will have an internationally uncompetitive 32.5% backpacker tax from the beginning of next year if the PM cannot compromise? | |
| Turnbull says Labor’s support of a 10.5% rate is economic vandalism and they will cause backpackers to pay 32.5%. | |
| The only reason backpackers would pay 32.5 cents tax is because the Labor party ... | |
| This is a plain act of economic vandalism by the Labor party, a plain act of undermining – undermining Australian businesses, Australian horticultural businesses, Australian tourism businesses. | |
| This means the government will block the amended 10.5% tax rate. | This means the government will block the amended 10.5% tax rate. |
| It is a signal that the government will not compromise on the 19% rate. | It is a signal that the government will not compromise on the 19% rate. |
| Updated | |
| at 3.17am GMT | |
| 2.58am GMT | 2.58am GMT |
| 02:58 | 02:58 |
| Richard Di Natale says it’s great to hear of the new coalition between the government and One Nation. | Richard Di Natale says it’s great to hear of the new coalition between the government and One Nation. |
| He says for all the people in and out of Senator Hanson’s office, | |
| We weren’t one of them ... you have been dudded ... you are right out of the mould of the National party. | |
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| at 3.10am GMT | |
| 2.56am GMT | 2.56am GMT |
| 02:56 | 02:56 |
| Pauline Hanson says Wong is indulging in “political grandstanding”. | Pauline Hanson says Wong is indulging in “political grandstanding”. |
| It’s all right for Brendan O’Connor or Anthony Albanese to come to my office. | It’s all right for Brendan O’Connor or Anthony Albanese to come to my office. |
| All of us have got new staff and we are trying to learn the ropes. | All of us have got new staff and we are trying to learn the ropes. |
| I have appreciated all the help we have received from mainly the Coalition. | I have appreciated all the help we have received from mainly the Coalition. |
| 2.54am GMT | 2.54am GMT |
| 02:54 | 02:54 |
| The passenger movement charge $5 increase passes. | The passenger movement charge $5 increase passes. |
| Finance minister Mathias Cormann commits to move One Nation’s amendment to freeze the passenger movement charge for five years. | Finance minister Mathias Cormann commits to move One Nation’s amendment to freeze the passenger movement charge for five years. |
| But he says he will do it in the lower house because that is the best place to do it. | But he says he will do it in the lower house because that is the best place to do it. |
| Penny Wong yells, this is the deal! One Nation has been had! | Penny Wong yells, this is the deal! One Nation has been had! |
| Two cabinet ministers were trying to get the deal on the floor of the senate, she says. | Two cabinet ministers were trying to get the deal on the floor of the senate, she says. |
| Any future government can simply make a change. It is worthless. This is a stunt. Labor will oppose this amendment. | Any future government can simply make a change. It is worthless. This is a stunt. Labor will oppose this amendment. |
| This is a stunt...the things that matter to the Australian people are ignored by the government. | This is a stunt...the things that matter to the Australian people are ignored by the government. |
| 2.48am GMT | 2.48am GMT |
| 02:48 | 02:48 |
| Don’t you criticise me with your crap. | Don’t you criticise me with your crap. |
| 2.46am GMT | 2.46am GMT |
| 02:46 | 02:46 |
| Now the Senate has the second vote on the passenger movement charge (PMC) increase – the one that was botched last night. | Now the Senate has the second vote on the passenger movement charge (PMC) increase – the one that was botched last night. |
| By way of explanation ... | By way of explanation ... |
| After the Coalition changed its planned backpacker tax from 32.5% to 19%, Scott Morrison said in order to make up the difference in the budget, he would raise the PMC by $5 to $60 and raise the tax rate on backpackers’ superannuation – when they leave the country – to 95%. | After the Coalition changed its planned backpacker tax from 32.5% to 19%, Scott Morrison said in order to make up the difference in the budget, he would raise the PMC by $5 to $60 and raise the tax rate on backpackers’ superannuation – when they leave the country – to 95%. |
| So the PMC is one of the savings measures coupled to the backpacker tax. | So the PMC is one of the savings measures coupled to the backpacker tax. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 2.53am GMT | at 2.53am GMT |
| 2.42am GMT | 2.42am GMT |
| 02:42 | 02:42 |
| Labor facilitates an explanation from Pauline Hanson and Brian Burston as to why they missed the passenger movement charge vote. They both say they thought it was a quorum bell, not a vote. | Labor facilitates an explanation from Pauline Hanson and Brian Burston as to why they missed the passenger movement charge vote. They both say they thought it was a quorum bell, not a vote. |
| Apologies, fellow senators. | Apologies, fellow senators. |
| Labor’s Senate leader, Penny Wong, says Labor will grant the new vote, but: | Labor’s Senate leader, Penny Wong, says Labor will grant the new vote, but: |
| a government that can’t run the chamber can’t run the country. | a government that can’t run the chamber can’t run the country. |
| Greens leader Richard Di Natale answers Mathias Cormann’s accusation that he missed his speech on the vote. | Greens leader Richard Di Natale answers Mathias Cormann’s accusation that he missed his speech on the vote. |
| Senator Cormann misleads the parliament here by suggesting I was not in the chamber. | Senator Cormann misleads the parliament here by suggesting I was not in the chamber. |
| No Senator Cormann, you messed it up, like so many other things, and you reap what you sow. | No Senator Cormann, you messed it up, like so many other things, and you reap what you sow. |
| Cormann rises to speak but his alarm goes off. *general laughter and tittering* | Cormann rises to speak but his alarm goes off. *general laughter and tittering* |
| He says of Di Natale’s charge, no such thing. | He says of Di Natale’s charge, no such thing. |
| Updated | Updated |
| at 2.48am GMT | at 2.48am GMT |