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Coalition flags no compromise on backpacker tax after Senate votes for 10.5% – politics live Coalition flags no compromise on backpacker tax after Senate votes for 10.5% – politics live
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Here is the magic of David Speers.
In failing to back in the treasurer’s assertion that foreign workers will pay less tax than Australians, finance minister Mathias Cormann looks as if he does not agree with Scott Morrison.
.@MathiasCormann: it's important foreign workers don't pay more tax than Australians #auspol https://t.co/RQmZCfDVhS https://t.co/f2aetdkYYk
Show me the numbers.
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Things got heated between @JacquiLambie and the president of the National Farmers Federation over #backpackertax https://t.co/KiuW3uF3YX
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Things got heated between @JacquiLambie and the president of the National Farmers Federation over #backpackertax https://t.co/KiuW3uF3YX
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BREAKING: Senate Cttee warns against "unfair and disproportionate" fines for non-compliance with #Census2016. https://t.co/fmfEmkEoGU
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There has been a blue in the senate courtyard between new National Farmers Federation president Fiona Simson and Jacqui Lambie.
The Tasmanian senator said if the NFF had done their job, farmers could have had a rate of 10.5%.
Simson said she would come and see her.
Lambie said don’t bother about me, go and see your farmers.
Brand new NFF Prez Fiona Simson intro'd self to Sen.Lambie. Is now getting bollocking on NFF's #backpackertax stance pic.twitter.com/xY9vjnH7CT
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David Speers of Sky News is valiantly trying to pin the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, down on the government’s arguments against the 10.5% tax rate.David Speers of Sky News is valiantly trying to pin the finance minister, Mathias Cormann, down on the government’s arguments against the 10.5% tax rate.
In the House, Scott Morrison repeatedly said foreign workers would pay less tax than Australian workers on 10.5%.In the House, Scott Morrison repeatedly said foreign workers would pay less tax than Australian workers on 10.5%.
Speers says given backpackers pay tax from the first dollar, does Cormann also assert backpackers would pay less tax than Australians?Speers says given backpackers pay tax from the first dollar, does Cormann also assert backpackers would pay less tax than Australians?
Cormann does not repeat the Morrison assertion.Cormann does not repeat the Morrison assertion.
Cormann won’t go there.Cormann won’t go there.
The closest he will go is this:The closest he will go is this:
Labor wants to deliver further tax cuts for foreign workers.Labor wants to deliver further tax cuts for foreign workers.
Speers tries the question every which way but Cormann sticks to his line. He is one of the most disciplined ministers in the government for sticking to his line. Often frustratingly so.Speers tries the question every which way but Cormann sticks to his line. He is one of the most disciplined ministers in the government for sticking to his line. Often frustratingly so.
Make of that what you will.Make of that what you will.
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Backpacker 4: the vote.Backpacker 4: the vote.
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Backpacker 3: the sprint.Backpacker 3: the sprint.
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Backpacker 2: Arm twisting.Backpacker 2: Arm twisting.
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Backpacker tax 1. RapproachmentBackpacker tax 1. Rapproachment
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One nation's Pauline Hanson during debate in the senate this afternoon @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/fGu1GhcPZjOne nation's Pauline Hanson during debate in the senate this afternoon @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/fGu1GhcPZj
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I have a veritable avalanche of Bowers magic so stay tuned.
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Labor to Turnbull: In question time yesterday, in answer to a question from the Member for Gorton, the PM said he had no choice over his investments in 7-Eleven because he has no control over what his managed funds invest in. Labor says Turnbull managed to divest himself from tobacco interests through managed funds. Why not 7/11 funds?
Turnbull says his managed funds do not invest where there is a “material interest” in tobacco. He says most MPs would have superannuation funds that invests in foreign shares including tobacco and 7/11.
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PHON Senator Culleton escorted from HofReps by helpful attendant. Not thrown out. Prob wanted to see if seats there more comfy.
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Labor’s Michelle Rowland to Turnbull: In 2013, the PM promised every Australian household would have access to the NBN by the end of this year. Is the PM at all concerned that, to deliver on his promise, he has to connect 7.8m premises in the next 37 days? Or does he have such a high opinion of his talents that he consider it is a breeze to connect 210,000 premises per day? That’s over 8,000 premises per hour or 140 premises per minute.
There is 3.5m premises that can get it now, and about 1.5m, somewhat more in fact are actually connected and activated. It is meeting its targets and it is beating it. The Labor party is relentless in its desire to mislead and spread falsehoods about the NBN.
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Another union question.
Meanwhile:
One Nation's Rod Culleton skips Senate QT to chat to Labor's Mark Dreyfus in the House of Reps #auspol (photo courtesy of @naomiwoodley) pic.twitter.com/VeELhAiGRt
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Labor to Turnbull: There is an emergency meeting between the PM and the South Australian Liberal leader today. Given the South Australian Liberal leader has today called on the PM to implement the Murray-Darling basin plan in full, including the 450 gigalitres, will the PM now pull his deputy and the leader of the Nationals into line over his divisive threats to the bipartisan basin plan?
Turnbull repeats that the Murray-Darling Basin plan has conditions which require any extra environmental water to only be taken if there are neutral or positive effects on communities along the river.
He does not tell us whether he had an emergency meeting with the South Australian Liberal leader.
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For those interested, Dreyfus has returned to the opposition benches and Culleton is alone, watching intently. #qt
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They continue to have a great old chat while the House is graced with a dixer on the ABCC #qt
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Mark Dreyfus has wandered over to Senator Rodney Culleton, who has inexplicably entered HoR #QT and is sitting up the back.
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Labor to Turnbull: The PM a few moments ago referred to the targeting of old people. Yesterday in question time, the PM was unaware that his government had threatened to sue a Sydney grandfather for his use of the Medicare logo and today the minister for human services said he wasn’t aware of his department’s threats to sue, so is the PM aware of whether the government has also threatened to sue the Liberal party, the minister for trade (among others) for their use of the Medicare logo, or are these actions limited to a Sydney grandfather?
Turnbull commits to speak to the minister, look at the legal advice and review it.
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