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Citizenship laws likely to survive constitutional challenge, says expert – politics live Labor pursues handling of Man Haron Monis's letter – question time live
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2.27pm AEST05:27
Julie Bishop, for George Brandis.
2.25pm AEST05:25
Barnaby Joyce is giving a dissertation on how the government is helping farmers in a Dixer.
2.23pm AEST05:23
Tony Burke to Tony Abbott: Can the PM confirm that on 1 June at 5:30pm his own department sent an email to attorneys-general to indicate that minister Bishop had referred to provision of the Man Monis letter in Parliament and to ask about the need to correct the record?
I can also confirm that the Director-General ofASIO has said publicly that the letter in question was handled perfectly appropriately by the Attorney-General.
Abbott is avoiding the question, repeating his words about how “soft” the system is. He says it was acted on “at the earliest opportunity”.
2.20pm AEST05:20
Joe Hockey is asked about fixing the budget.
This is not Joe Hockey.
Updated at 2.23pm AEST
2.18pm AEST05:18
Cathy McGowan asks Malcolm Turnbull about the regional mobile blackspot program, which promised to provide money for regional blackspots. Apparently she has a drop as Turnbull says it will be announced tomorrow.
2.16pm AEST05:16
Plibersek to Julie Bishop: Today the minister said she was informed during question time after 3pm on Thursday, 4 June that the letter written by Man Haron Monis had not been provided to the Martin Place siege inquiry. So why did the Attorney-General say in this statement, ‘The foreign minister was advised shortly before question time’?
Bishop says an email was sent to the committee at 2:55pm. After question time, that is 14 minutes later, at 3:09pm, she corrected the record.
I had no earlier opportunity to correct the record as I was in France until 4 June.
2.13pm AEST05:13
Just on the Monis letter, Daniel Hurst explains the greater detail here. The government was forced to correct the record regarding a letter Man Haron Monis had written to the attorney general, George Brandis, about a desire to contact Islamic State (Isis) two months before the deadly attack. The first issue was the letter was not picked up as alarming in the AG’s office. Also, Brandis said the letter had been provided to the Martin Place inquiry. Turns out it had not been done.
2.10pm AEST05:10
Bill Shorten asks Tony Abbott why the parliamentary record on the Monis letter was not corrected for four days.
Tony Abbott says nothing to see here.
There has been nothing untoward here. There has been no impropriority here and and if members opposite are trying to suggest that in some way our possession of that letter would have averted the atrocity in Martin Place in December I think that suggestion, if it’s being made is fanciful to say the least.
2.07pm AEST05:07
Plibersek asks Julie Bishop as AG rep in the lower house:
I refer to the letter the attorney-general refer received from Man Haron Monis on October 2014. According to Senate testimony last night the attorney-general’s department knew on Monday, 1 June, that the department had not provided the letter to the Martin Place siege inquiry. Give the attorney-general knew on Monday that both he and the minister for foreign affairs had misled the Parliament, why wasn’t the record corrected before Thursday, 4 June?
This goes to the government’s claim that it had provided the Monis letter to the Martin Place inquiry.
Julie Bishop:
The record was corrected at the earliest opportunity after receiving formal confirmation from the secretary of the attorney-general’s department on 4 June, 2015. That information was received in writing at 2:43pm. And the advice was that the earlier advice from the department was wrong.
Catherine Jones, deputy secretary of the attorney-general’s department, on 4 June, by email to the committee, advised the committee at 2:55pm. I received information during question time after 3pm that the record had been corrected, as far as the committee was concerned and, at 3:09pm, minutes later, at the end of question time I corrected the record.
The attorney-general sent a letter to the committee on 4 June at3:15pm, again hand delivered.The initial advice to the attorney-general on 1 June was that it appeared that the evidence was wrong. He immediately asked the secretary of the Attorney-General’s department to conduct a review. And the outcome of that review was the information provided to the Attorney-General on the afternoon of the 4th of June as I’ve just outlined.
Updated at 2.07pm AEST
2.01pm AEST05:01
Labor is back to Monis in question time, via Tanya Plibersek.
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Lunchtime politicsLunchtime politics
It’s that time already and with question time coming up, here is your political wrap:It’s that time already and with question time coming up, here is your political wrap:
1.43pm AEST04:431.43pm AEST04:43
Joe Hockey has announced that Australia will sign on next week to join the Asian Infrastructure Bank as a founding member. This was the bank that split the cabinet. Hockey reportedly wanted to join while the foreign minister Julie Bishop was not so keen. Here is the money bit:Joe Hockey has announced that Australia will sign on next week to join the Asian Infrastructure Bank as a founding member. This was the bank that split the cabinet. Hockey reportedly wanted to join while the foreign minister Julie Bishop was not so keen. Here is the money bit:
Australia will contribute around A$930 million as paid-in capital to the AIIB over five years and will be the sixth largest shareholder. The AIIB will have paid-in capital of US$20 billion ($A25.2 billion) with total authorised capital of US$100 billion (A$126.2 billion).Australia will contribute around A$930 million as paid-in capital to the AIIB over five years and will be the sixth largest shareholder. The AIIB will have paid-in capital of US$20 billion ($A25.2 billion) with total authorised capital of US$100 billion (A$126.2 billion).
The Treasurer will attend the Articles of Agreement signing ceremony at the Great Hall of the People, Beijing on Monday 29 June.The Treasurer will attend the Articles of Agreement signing ceremony at the Great Hall of the People, Beijing on Monday 29 June.
1.38pm AEST04:381.38pm AEST04:38
Back to negotiating, Leyonjhelm makes an interesting point on the difference between Labor and the government. Remember Labor has not had a majority in the senate in recent history.Back to negotiating, Leyonjhelm makes an interesting point on the difference between Labor and the government. Remember Labor has not had a majority in the senate in recent history.
I think there’s a cultural difference between Labor and the Libs in terms of their willingness to negotiate. Labor’s used to it, they negotiate everything, the Liberals usually take their tablets of stone from the leader and go out and promote them.I think there’s a cultural difference between Labor and the Libs in terms of their willingness to negotiate. Labor’s used to it, they negotiate everything, the Liberals usually take their tablets of stone from the leader and go out and promote them.
Lambie says Labor is good but they are not in government.Lambie says Labor is good but they are not in government.
It comes down to a matter of trust and if I find out you’re lying to me and trying to sell the legislation you’re trying to put through and it’s been a blatant lie, you’ve said that in front of my face then that trust is just blown out the window and you’ll have to start from the ground level and that’s the biggest issue, there is very little trust.It comes down to a matter of trust and if I find out you’re lying to me and trying to sell the legislation you’re trying to put through and it’s been a blatant lie, you’ve said that in front of my face then that trust is just blown out the window and you’ll have to start from the ground level and that’s the biggest issue, there is very little trust.
1.33pm AEST04:331.33pm AEST04:33
Nick Xenophon has compared Jaqui Lambie to a rockstar in Tasmania. A cross between Katy Perry and Nana Mouskouri.Nick Xenophon has compared Jaqui Lambie to a rockstar in Tasmania. A cross between Katy Perry and Nana Mouskouri.
But a little less love between Nick and David.But a little less love between Nick and David.
1.29pm AEST04:291.29pm AEST04:29
The three indies are asked about the life in parliament.The three indies are asked about the life in parliament.
Leyonjhelm:Leyonjhelm:
It has its moments of sheer pleasure but they’re a bit like a Wagner opera, moments of sheer bliss interspersed by utter boredom. The one aspectof the job they hadn’t anticipated is the hours and the intensity of life in parliament house. I am really good we don’t do that 52 weeks of the year, it would kill me.It has its moments of sheer pleasure but they’re a bit like a Wagner opera, moments of sheer bliss interspersed by utter boredom. The one aspectof the job they hadn’t anticipated is the hours and the intensity of life in parliament house. I am really good we don’t do that 52 weeks of the year, it would kill me.
Lambie thinks it is a bit like defence headquarters.Lambie thinks it is a bit like defence headquarters.
And Xenophon calls for more transparency, given the relentless pace of federal politics.And Xenophon calls for more transparency, given the relentless pace of federal politics.
One reason why so manyAustralians hate so many politicians is we’re not transparent enough and it won’t kill us to publish details of our entertainment, of where we travel, online and do it frequently and rather than you guys as journalists having to trawl through FIO requests and I don’t think it will hurt us to do that. Rhat’s one thing that once it’s done, it’s like ripping off a band aid. Most think “why didn’t we do it earlier?”One reason why so manyAustralians hate so many politicians is we’re not transparent enough and it won’t kill us to publish details of our entertainment, of where we travel, online and do it frequently and rather than you guys as journalists having to trawl through FIO requests and I don’t think it will hurt us to do that. Rhat’s one thing that once it’s done, it’s like ripping off a band aid. Most think “why didn’t we do it earlier?”
1.25pm AEST04:251.25pm AEST04:25
On Khaled Sharrouf’s family coming back to Australia, Leyonhjelm does not believe in collective punishment, Lambie thinks his wife Tara Nettleton should be charged with sedition.On Khaled Sharrouf’s family coming back to Australia, Leyonhjelm does not believe in collective punishment, Lambie thinks his wife Tara Nettleton should be charged with sedition.
Nick Xenophon believes:Nick Xenophon believes:
You can’t make judgments without knowing the full facts and I think it also highlights the need for the government making a concerted effort, a greater effort in terms of deradicalisation of Islamic extremism.You can’t make judgments without knowing the full facts and I think it also highlights the need for the government making a concerted effort, a greater effort in terms of deradicalisation of Islamic extremism.
1.22pm AEST04:221.22pm AEST04:22
Crossbenchers on citizenship lawsCrossbenchers on citizenship laws
On citizenship law, David Leyonjhelm says he is opposed to ministerial discretion,On citizenship law, David Leyonjhelm says he is opposed to ministerial discretion,
There are issues about who it applies to, when it applies, what appeal rights they have.There are issues about who it applies to, when it applies, what appeal rights they have.
Nick Xenophon wants terrorists under lock and key in Australia rather than causing trouble around the world.Nick Xenophon wants terrorists under lock and key in Australia rather than causing trouble around the world.
What concerns me is if someone is stripped of their citizenship, they’re there, they’ve been fighting for ISIS or Daesh, they can’t come back to Australia, will they then spend the rest of their miserable lives trying to work out how many Australians they can harm somewhere overseas? I’d rather they be brought back to Australia and kept under lock and key for a very, very long time when they’re no longer a threat to Australians anywhere and I think outsourcing the problem is not necessarily the wisiest thing to do.What concerns me is if someone is stripped of their citizenship, they’re there, they’ve been fighting for ISIS or Daesh, they can’t come back to Australia, will they then spend the rest of their miserable lives trying to work out how many Australians they can harm somewhere overseas? I’d rather they be brought back to Australia and kept under lock and key for a very, very long time when they’re no longer a threat to Australians anywhere and I think outsourcing the problem is not necessarily the wisiest thing to do.
Jacqui Lambie wants terrorists sent to their other country.Jacqui Lambie wants terrorists sent to their other country.
You bring them back here, this is where the terrorist cells feed, that’s how it happens. So I don’t believe that’s the answer, but if you have a dual citizenship, we don’t want you. You go back to whenever you come from. That one to me is straight down the line.You bring them back here, this is where the terrorist cells feed, that’s how it happens. So I don’t believe that’s the answer, but if you have a dual citizenship, we don’t want you. You go back to whenever you come from. That one to me is straight down the line.
With Labor likely to support the bill however, their votes won’t make much difference.With Labor likely to support the bill however, their votes won’t make much difference.
1.14pm AEST04:141.14pm AEST04:14
Nick Xenophon nominates Labor senator Sam Dastyari, as doing good work.Nick Xenophon nominates Labor senator Sam Dastyari, as doing good work.
Dasher Dastyari #Live #NotAReenactment at the press club @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/ApNZEwy5hiDasher Dastyari #Live #NotAReenactment at the press club @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/ApNZEwy5hi
Xenophon is up for a compromise on the senate reforms.Xenophon is up for a compromise on the senate reforms.
Simply one above the line as recommended by the majority position, I think that will make it difficult for diverse voices. I think a better way is to at least require three above the line, as easy as 1, 2, 3, it’s the sort of thing some say could work and you get rid of the group voting tickets.Simply one above the line as recommended by the majority position, I think that will make it difficult for diverse voices. I think a better way is to at least require three above the line, as easy as 1, 2, 3, it’s the sort of thing some say could work and you get rid of the group voting tickets.
1.11pm AEST04:111.11pm AEST04:11
Jacqui Lambie suggests the government is very hard to deal with.Jacqui Lambie suggests the government is very hard to deal with.
I have struggled to communicate with them. Compared to Labor, I’ll give it to Labor, they’re very easy to communicate with, very easy. They sell things very easily, but right now you have the Coalition. They’re difficult to communicate with and to be honest they couldn’t sell Avon at a bargain price, that’s what I’m up against.I have struggled to communicate with them. Compared to Labor, I’ll give it to Labor, they’re very easy to communicate with, very easy. They sell things very easily, but right now you have the Coalition. They’re difficult to communicate with and to be honest they couldn’t sell Avon at a bargain price, that’s what I’m up against.
1.10pm AEST04:101.10pm AEST04:10
The independents are asked to nominate whether they are feeling the love from the government.The independents are asked to nominate whether they are feeling the love from the government.
David Leyonhjelm says the government is getting better at negotiating but nominates Scott Morrison as the standout on temporary protection visas. It took ScoMo a while to come to it but he finally did according to Leyonhjelm.David Leyonhjelm says the government is getting better at negotiating but nominates Scott Morrison as the standout on temporary protection visas. It took ScoMo a while to come to it but he finally did according to Leyonhjelm.
In the beginning, my exchanges with Scott he was a bit like the old story about Australians talking to people who don’t speakEnglish, they speak louder. Scott was a bit like that, he just kept repeating it and repeating it. After a while, he’s quite a smart guy, it dawned on him maybe he needed to listen to what I was saying and maybe some of my concerns were legitimate and worth addressing.In the beginning, my exchanges with Scott he was a bit like the old story about Australians talking to people who don’t speakEnglish, they speak louder. Scott was a bit like that, he just kept repeating it and repeating it. After a while, he’s quite a smart guy, it dawned on him maybe he needed to listen to what I was saying and maybe some of my concerns were legitimate and worth addressing.
1.06pm AEST04:061.06pm AEST04:06
Ricky Muir watches fellow crossbenchers.Ricky Muir watches fellow crossbenchers.
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Independents day.Independents day.
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Nick Xenophon has pushed back at David Leyonjhelm’s claim that he always votes with Labor and the Greens.Nick Xenophon has pushed back at David Leyonjhelm’s claim that he always votes with Labor and the Greens.
It’s a bit misleading to speak in terms of voting with The Greensand with the Government only 30% of the time. I have voted with the government on key pieces of legislation. The carbon tax, the Emissions Reduction Fund (Direct Action), the RET and border protection. My voting record is not as good or as bad as David’s, because I voted against the government when it came to issues of metadata, press freedom, Section 35P of our anti-terror laws has a chilling effect on press freedom in this country and I make no apology for that.It’s a bit misleading to speak in terms of voting with The Greensand with the Government only 30% of the time. I have voted with the government on key pieces of legislation. The carbon tax, the Emissions Reduction Fund (Direct Action), the RET and border protection. My voting record is not as good or as bad as David’s, because I voted against the government when it came to issues of metadata, press freedom, Section 35P of our anti-terror laws has a chilling effect on press freedom in this country and I make no apology for that.
12.58pm AEST03:5812.58pm AEST03:58
The point of the shopping trolley joke is her assertion that journalists are somehow keeping a lid on secret reports.The point of the shopping trolley joke is her assertion that journalists are somehow keeping a lid on secret reports.
The secret reports I’d like to talk about are the ones that you the Canberra media haven’t talked about all that much, and my question to you is why not?The secret reports I’d like to talk about are the ones that you the Canberra media haven’t talked about all that much, and my question to you is why not?
Lambie quotes the interim report on the royal commission into trade unions.Lambie quotes the interim report on the royal commission into trade unions.
This is unfortunate because the confidential volume reveals grave threats to the power and authority of the Australian state.This is unfortunate because the confidential volume reveals grave threats to the power and authority of the Australian state.
Amended: Lambie wants a briefing on the interim report. I am also happy to take delivery of a copy.Amended: Lambie wants a briefing on the interim report. I am also happy to take delivery of a copy.
Updated at 1.03pm AESTUpdated at 1.03pm AEST
12.52pm AEST03:5212.52pm AEST03:52
Jacqui Lambie goes through her achievements which include a raise in defence force pay, an increase in funding to the freight equalisation scheme and Tasmanian manufacturing,Jacqui Lambie goes through her achievements which include a raise in defence force pay, an increase in funding to the freight equalisation scheme and Tasmanian manufacturing,
I begin most of my conversation with government ministers who want to meet with me by saying, “What’s in this deal for Tasmania?”I begin most of my conversation with government ministers who want to meet with me by saying, “What’s in this deal for Tasmania?”
Perhaps from now on if they don’t come up with the cash, I’ll just say “Let’s pretend I’m an Indonesian people-smugglers” , and you can be Tony Abbott.Perhaps from now on if they don’t come up with the cash, I’ll just say “Let’s pretend I’m an Indonesian people-smugglers” , and you can be Tony Abbott.
12.49pm AEST03:4912.49pm AEST03:49
Lambie also has a joke about Canberra journalists, given to her by her mother.Lambie also has a joke about Canberra journalists, given to her by her mother.
What’s the difference between a journalist and a shopping trolley? Apparently a shopping trolley has a mind of its own.What’s the difference between a journalist and a shopping trolley? Apparently a shopping trolley has a mind of its own.
12.48pm AEST03:4812.48pm AEST03:48
Jacqui Lambie puts it this way:Jacqui Lambie puts it this way:
In the lead-up to the next federal election the conservatives parties will run a scare campaign about a hung parliament and a feral Senate. The Liberal election ads will scream a hung Senate means chaos. Have Tony or Malcolm, or Julie, or Scott as prime minister, because we have a long-term economic plan, same, same . And my question to those ads is simply this, a hung Australian parliament will and has guaranteed consultation, not chaos. A hung Australian senate will and has guaranteed greater accountability, less political corruption and a better deception.In the lead-up to the next federal election the conservatives parties will run a scare campaign about a hung parliament and a feral Senate. The Liberal election ads will scream a hung Senate means chaos. Have Tony or Malcolm, or Julie, or Scott as prime minister, because we have a long-term economic plan, same, same . And my question to those ads is simply this, a hung Australian parliament will and has guaranteed consultation, not chaos. A hung Australian senate will and has guaranteed greater accountability, less political corruption and a better deception.
12.45pm AEST03:4512.45pm AEST03:45
Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm is at the National Press Club with his crossbench colleagues, Nick Xenophon and Jacqui Lambie.Liberal Democrat senator David Leyonhjelm is at the National Press Club with his crossbench colleagues, Nick Xenophon and Jacqui Lambie.
The speeches so far have revolved around the proposed reforms to stop so called gaming of the senate and the achievements of crossbenchers. The joint committee on electoral matters have recommended optional preferential voting in the senate.The speeches so far have revolved around the proposed reforms to stop so called gaming of the senate and the achievements of crossbenchers. The joint committee on electoral matters have recommended optional preferential voting in the senate.
Leyonjhelm suggests such a reform will:Leyonjhelm suggests such a reform will:
wipe out the minor parties and keep the major parties in power. The Senate will be permanently deadlocked between the Coalition on one side, Labor and the Greens on the other. The only crossbencher who would survive is Nick who votes with the Greens and Labor most of the time.wipe out the minor parties and keep the major parties in power. The Senate will be permanently deadlocked between the Coalition on one side, Labor and the Greens on the other. The only crossbencher who would survive is Nick who votes with the Greens and Labor most of the time.
Updated at 12.46pm AESTUpdated at 12.46pm AEST
12.32pm AEST03:3212.32pm AEST03:32
Project host Waleed Aly took on Zaky Mallah regarding his statements on Q&A.Project host Waleed Aly took on Zaky Mallah regarding his statements on Q&A.
Rather than shouting at the ABC, it was a much more effective way of addressing the content of Mallah’s ridiculous statements, such as this one, in my opinion.Rather than shouting at the ABC, it was a much more effective way of addressing the content of Mallah’s ridiculous statements, such as this one, in my opinion.
The majority of the #qanda audience tonight was pro Libs and pathetic. I would pay to see that Minister dumped on #ISIS territory in Iraq!The majority of the #qanda audience tonight was pro Libs and pathetic. I would pay to see that Minister dumped on #ISIS territory in Iraq!
The whole Project interview is here.The whole Project interview is here.
12.18pm AEST03:1812.18pm AEST03:18
Back to the RET.Back to the RET.
Senator Janet Rice, Australian Greens forests spokesperson, says the RET legislation will drive additional native forest logging and allow the burning of whole logs.Senator Janet Rice, Australian Greens forests spokesperson, says the RET legislation will drive additional native forest logging and allow the burning of whole logs.
This deal between Labor and the Coalition has thrown a lifeline to the native forest logging industry at the expense of taxpayers, genuine clean energy and plantation timber jobs. The Abbott government’s claims that this is just about ‘wood waste’, ‘branches’ or ‘offcuts’ is absolute rubbish. It simply won’t be worth the transport costs to use anything but whole logs. Our native forests are worth much more standing for our climate, our most threatened animals and for the local communities that rely on them.This deal between Labor and the Coalition has thrown a lifeline to the native forest logging industry at the expense of taxpayers, genuine clean energy and plantation timber jobs. The Abbott government’s claims that this is just about ‘wood waste’, ‘branches’ or ‘offcuts’ is absolute rubbish. It simply won’t be worth the transport costs to use anything but whole logs. Our native forests are worth much more standing for our climate, our most threatened animals and for the local communities that rely on them.
12.10pm AEST03:1012.10pm AEST03:10
Shalailah MedhoraShalailah Medhora
Shalailah Medhora is on the case of the offshore processing loophole which the government is scrambling to close on this second last day of this parliamentary sitting.Shalailah Medhora is on the case of the offshore processing loophole which the government is scrambling to close on this second last day of this parliamentary sitting.
A High Court challenge could derail the government’s policy of processing asylum seekers on Nauru, sending both Labor and the Coalition into a tailspin.A High Court challenge could derail the government’s policy of processing asylum seekers on Nauru, sending both Labor and the Coalition into a tailspin.
The court heard a directions hearing on Wednesday, ascertaining the factual basis of the case, which claims that the government does not have the authority to detain people offshore or put money towards that goal.The court heard a directions hearing on Wednesday, ascertaining the factual basis of the case, which claims that the government does not have the authority to detain people offshore or put money towards that goal.
11.57am AEST02:5711.57am AEST02:57
Constitutional lawyer George Williams: new citizenship laws have lower risk of being struck downConstitutional lawyer George Williams: new citizenship laws have lower risk of being struck down
Lenore Taylor has spoken to University of NSW law professor George Williams, who says he believes the citizenship bill as it is now drafted is unlikely to be struck down by the high court on constitutional grounds.Lenore Taylor has spoken to University of NSW law professor George Williams, who says he believes the citizenship bill as it is now drafted is unlikely to be struck down by the high court on constitutional grounds.
It has a much lower constitutional risk that the original plan. At best the minister can exempt someone from the operations of the act which does not raise the same considerations.It has a much lower constitutional risk that the original plan. At best the minister can exempt someone from the operations of the act which does not raise the same considerations.
Updated at 12.12pm AESTUpdated at 12.12pm AEST
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In a brief love affair with the ABC, Tony Abbott praised the national broadcaster for Sarah Ferguson’s excellent series The Killing Season, documenting the sorry leadership mess of the last government. That was before he hit the treason button.In a brief love affair with the ABC, Tony Abbott praised the national broadcaster for Sarah Ferguson’s excellent series The Killing Season, documenting the sorry leadership mess of the last government. That was before he hit the treason button.
The series was compelling - though I always had the feeling that it was a little too soon to provide perspective. Timeframes notwithstanding, Rob Manwaring of Flinders University has a nice comparison on The Conversation to the Akira Kurosawa film Rashomon, which retells a story four different ways by “unreliable and self-serving narrators”.The series was compelling - though I always had the feeling that it was a little too soon to provide perspective. Timeframes notwithstanding, Rob Manwaring of Flinders University has a nice comparison on The Conversation to the Akira Kurosawa film Rashomon, which retells a story four different ways by “unreliable and self-serving narrators”.
The final episode revealed that Bill Shorten was talking to Kevin Rudd before the latter’s return to the prime ministership in 2013. It would appear the clincher of the deal was that Kevin wanted a change to the leadership rules, which made it much harder for the party to get rid of a leader. Shorten, possibly calculating future scenarios, agreed to swing his support behind Rudd.The final episode revealed that Bill Shorten was talking to Kevin Rudd before the latter’s return to the prime ministership in 2013. It would appear the clincher of the deal was that Kevin wanted a change to the leadership rules, which made it much harder for the party to get rid of a leader. Shorten, possibly calculating future scenarios, agreed to swing his support behind Rudd.
Shorten was asked about it this morning, most particularly whether he was a liar for supporting Julia Gillard when he was talking behind the scenes to Kevin Rudd.Shorten was asked about it this morning, most particularly whether he was a liar for supporting Julia Gillard when he was talking behind the scenes to Kevin Rudd.
It is history. It is not my job as leader of the opposition to be the curator of the museum of Labor. What I am determined to do is work with my team to develop the best possible vision for Australia. What has happened in the past is exactly that, the past. I think all reasonable commentators would say that in the last two years the Labor Party has been much more united than it has for the years previously. That is the first step of Labor’s rebuilding of trust with the Australian community.It is history. It is not my job as leader of the opposition to be the curator of the museum of Labor. What I am determined to do is work with my team to develop the best possible vision for Australia. What has happened in the past is exactly that, the past. I think all reasonable commentators would say that in the last two years the Labor Party has been much more united than it has for the years previously. That is the first step of Labor’s rebuilding of trust with the Australian community.
I am not sure two year old history is worthy of a museum analogy myself.I am not sure two year old history is worthy of a museum analogy myself.
11.25am AEST02:2511.25am AEST02:25
Tony Abbott was not in the parliament when the citizenship legislation was presented but he was at a classified briefing at Asio headquarters. While the briefing was classified, some lucky photographers were allowed in the room, one of whom was Lukas Coch of AAP. Sadly, Mike Bowers was not invited.Tony Abbott was not in the parliament when the citizenship legislation was presented but he was at a classified briefing at Asio headquarters. While the briefing was classified, some lucky photographers were allowed in the room, one of whom was Lukas Coch of AAP. Sadly, Mike Bowers was not invited.
Here is a map.Here is a map.
11.18am AEST02:1811.18am AEST02:18
Destination: classified.Destination: classified.
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Wow. Govt has discovered a loophole in offshore processing legislation and needs a bill passed by the end of the day. Labor caucus to meet.Wow. Govt has discovered a loophole in offshore processing legislation and needs a bill passed by the end of the day. Labor caucus to meet.
Just checking what this is about.Just checking what this is about.
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Labor will meet at 11.30am for a special caucus on the citizenship legislation.Labor will meet at 11.30am for a special caucus on the citizenship legislation.
Labor is being briefed by the government right now, two hours after the bill was presented to the house.Labor is being briefed by the government right now, two hours after the bill was presented to the house.
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Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Amendment Bill 2015 introducedAboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Amendment Bill 2015 introduced
While the lawyers pore over the citizenship legislation, other stuff is happening.While the lawyers pore over the citizenship legislation, other stuff is happening.
The white paper on developing northern Australia was only released last week and one of its recommendations was:The white paper on developing northern Australia was only released last week and one of its recommendations was:
More efficient native title processes that create more certainty for investors and opportunities for native title claimants and holders (through the Council of Australian Governments (COAG) Indigenous land review).More efficient native title processes that create more certainty for investors and opportunities for native title claimants and holders (through the Council of Australian Governments (COAG) Indigenous land review).
The white paper said:The white paper said:
Many Indigenous Australians say that native title rights do not provide a basis for active participation in the economy. Indigenous Australians sometimes talk about being ‘land rich, dirt poor’. In many cases, native title does not currently provide a secure asset that promotes investment, unlike most Australians who can borrow against their freehold title in their own home or business.Many Indigenous Australians say that native title rights do not provide a basis for active participation in the economy. Indigenous Australians sometimes talk about being ‘land rich, dirt poor’. In many cases, native title does not currently provide a secure asset that promotes investment, unlike most Australians who can borrow against their freehold title in their own home or business.
This issue was raised with the prime minister during his first trip to Arnhem Land, where he spent five days in an Indigenous community. The community of Yirrkala was particularly keen to change the powers in order to develop their land.This issue was raised with the prime minister during his first trip to Arnhem Land, where he spent five days in an Indigenous community. The community of Yirrkala was particularly keen to change the powers in order to develop their land.
The government must have had the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Amendment Bill 2015 sitting in the bottom drawer as it has been introduced to parliament this morning. We are working through this one now.The government must have had the Aboriginal Land Rights (Northern Territory) Amendment Bill 2015 sitting in the bottom drawer as it has been introduced to parliament this morning. We are working through this one now.
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Julie Bishop says as a matter of course, the Coalition would not support retrospectivity. Except.Julie Bishop says as a matter of course, the Coalition would not support retrospectivity. Except.
As a matter of course, the Coalition would not support retrospectivity but there are certain circumstances where, for example, people convicted of terrorist offences currently serving time in prison, their circumstances should be considered on their release from prison.As a matter of course, the Coalition would not support retrospectivity but there are certain circumstances where, for example, people convicted of terrorist offences currently serving time in prison, their circumstances should be considered on their release from prison.
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Labor yet to be briefed on citizenship lawsLabor yet to be briefed on citizenship laws
Bill Shorten has not been briefed on the citizenship laws yet. He is asked about the family of Khaled Sharrouf, who was reported killed. His wife Tara Nettleton and their children want to return to Australia. Shorten is not committing on a Labor position.Bill Shorten has not been briefed on the citizenship laws yet. He is asked about the family of Khaled Sharrouf, who was reported killed. His wife Tara Nettleton and their children want to return to Australia. Shorten is not committing on a Labor position.
I do not as a parent understand how on earth anyone, no matter how twisted their own view, would subject their children to that sort of trauma and child abuse. Also as a parent I know that with these children to return they were going to need a lot of working through what they have seen and done. As a parent I wouldn’t feel comfortable with these children reinserting in a playground with my children or anyone else’s children. But I reckon the sins of the father should not be visit and treated as the sins of the children. We just need to work through this issue intelligently. We will take the advice of the security agencies and that is what Australians want.I do not as a parent understand how on earth anyone, no matter how twisted their own view, would subject their children to that sort of trauma and child abuse. Also as a parent I know that with these children to return they were going to need a lot of working through what they have seen and done. As a parent I wouldn’t feel comfortable with these children reinserting in a playground with my children or anyone else’s children. But I reckon the sins of the father should not be visit and treated as the sins of the children. We just need to work through this issue intelligently. We will take the advice of the security agencies and that is what Australians want.
Updated at 10.33am AESTUpdated at 10.33am AEST
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Under the current Australian Citizenship Act, a minister can revoke the citizenship of a child if their parents’ citizenship is revoked. Exceptions include if there is another responsible parent who is an Australian citizen or if the child is left stateless.Under the current Australian Citizenship Act, a minister can revoke the citizenship of a child if their parents’ citizenship is revoked. Exceptions include if there is another responsible parent who is an Australian citizen or if the child is left stateless.
The current act is here.The current act is here.
Updated at 10.31am AESTUpdated at 10.31am AEST
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PDuddy and his learned friend the Bull, perusing the bill dutifully.PDuddy and his learned friend the Bull, perusing the bill dutifully.
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Parallel universeParallel universe
Just by way of contrast, Philip Ruddock, the special minister for citizenship discussion, is presenting the parliamentary joint committee on human rights to the parliament.Just by way of contrast, Philip Ruddock, the special minister for citizenship discussion, is presenting the parliamentary joint committee on human rights to the parliament.
Updated at 10.34am AESTUpdated at 10.34am AEST
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Natural justice? Need not applyNatural justice? Need not apply
The legislation contains some general notes about the minister’s powers overseeing the “renunciation” of citizenship, which for the wonks is section 33AA.The legislation contains some general notes about the minister’s powers overseeing the “renunciation” of citizenship, which for the wonks is section 33AA.
It states that the minister holds the powers personally – in other words, back off courts.It states that the minister holds the powers personally – in other words, back off courts.
And it states:And it states:
The rules of natural justice do not apply in relation to the powers of the minister under this section.The rules of natural justice do not apply in relation to the powers of the minister under this section.
Updated at 10.17am AESTUpdated at 10.17am AEST
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A child can lose their citizenship under the new lawsA child can lose their citizenship under the new laws
This is directly from the legislation:This is directly from the legislation:
Where a person renounces their Australian citizenship under this section, the renunciation takes effect, and the Australian citizenship of the person ceases, immediately upon the person engaging in the conduct referred to in subsection (2).Where a person renounces their Australian citizenship under this section, the renunciation takes effect, and the Australian citizenship of the person ceases, immediately upon the person engaging in the conduct referred to in subsection (2).
Note: A child of the person may also cease to be an Australian citizen.Note: A child of the person may also cease to be an Australian citizen.
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While we trawl through the bill, this from National MP Darren Chester, bless him.While we trawl through the bill, this from National MP Darren Chester, bless him.
First in class! Important to grab your seat early when they're taking a photo of the cabinet team @cpyne #auspol pic.twitter.com/FRYAY0pDDfFirst in class! Important to grab your seat early when they're taking a photo of the cabinet team @cpyne #auspol pic.twitter.com/FRYAY0pDDf
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No notice required for loss of citizenshipNo notice required for loss of citizenship
The bill also limits sections of the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation Act for the new provisions.The bill also limits sections of the Australian Security and Intelligence Organisation Act for the new provisions.
These sections relate to giving notice of a loss of citizenship or rescinding a notice and exempting a person from loss.These sections relate to giving notice of a loss of citizenship or rescinding a notice and exempting a person from loss.
Dutton:Dutton:
This means that the minister may rely on any information provided by Asio, whether it is in a preliminary form or information or whether it amounts to a security assessment or qualified security assessment.This means that the minister may rely on any information provided by Asio, whether it is in a preliminary form or information or whether it amounts to a security assessment or qualified security assessment.
Updated at 10.16am AESTUpdated at 10.16am AEST
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Australian citizens by birth can lose citizenship under new lawsAustralian citizens by birth can lose citizenship under new laws
Immigration minister Dutton introduces the allegiance to Austrailia bill @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/s8gOIRchNmImmigration minister Dutton introduces the allegiance to Austrailia bill @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/s8gOIRchNm
The bill makes it clear that the new loss provisions apply to all Australian citizens, regardless of how they acquired that citizenship ... Legislation has long provided that Australian citizens by birth can lose their citizenship.The bill makes it clear that the new loss provisions apply to all Australian citizens, regardless of how they acquired that citizenship ... Legislation has long provided that Australian citizens by birth can lose their citizenship.
Updated at 10.16am AESTUpdated at 10.16am AEST
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Here is the minister’s formulation regarding a declared terrorist organisation:Here is the minister’s formulation regarding a declared terrorist organisation:
A declared terrorist organisation will be a subset of those which are proscribed for the purposes of the criminal code. The minister will declare those organisations that are opposed to Australia or Australia’s values, democratic beliefs, rights and liberties.A declared terrorist organisation will be a subset of those which are proscribed for the purposes of the criminal code. The minister will declare those organisations that are opposed to Australia or Australia’s values, democratic beliefs, rights and liberties.
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OK citizen journalists, here is the link to the Allegiance to Australia bill.OK citizen journalists, here is the link to the Allegiance to Australia bill.
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Peter Dutton says the loss of citizenship will be immediate, upon the person engaging in the relevant conduct.Peter Dutton says the loss of citizenship will be immediate, upon the person engaging in the relevant conduct.
The minister must give notice that a person has ceased to be an Australian citizen once the minister becomes aware of the person’s conduct, giving rise to that outcome.The minister must give notice that a person has ceased to be an Australian citizen once the minister becomes aware of the person’s conduct, giving rise to that outcome.
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The definitions which will cause citizenship renunciationThe definitions which will cause citizenship renunciation
Here’s the definitions for actions which will cause citizenship renunciation, via Peter Dutton.Here’s the definitions for actions which will cause citizenship renunciation, via Peter Dutton.
The relevant conduct is engaging in international terrorist activities using explosive or lethal devices, engaging in a terrorist act, providing or receiving training connected with preparation for, engagement in or assistance in a terrorist act.The relevant conduct is engaging in international terrorist activities using explosive or lethal devices, engaging in a terrorist act, providing or receiving training connected with preparation for, engagement in or assistance in a terrorist act.
Directing the activities of a terrorist organisation, recruiting for a terrorist organisation, financing terrorism, financing a terrorist, and engaging in foreign incursions and recruitment. Automatic loss of citizenship will be triggered whether the conduct takes place inside or outside Australia.Directing the activities of a terrorist organisation, recruiting for a terrorist organisation, financing terrorism, financing a terrorist, and engaging in foreign incursions and recruitment. Automatic loss of citizenship will be triggered whether the conduct takes place inside or outside Australia.
(Bear with me, there is a lot of detail and I need to get it right.)(Bear with me, there is a lot of detail and I need to get it right.)
Updated at 9.11am AESTUpdated at 9.11am AEST
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Dutton:Dutton:
The bill proposes three mechanisms for automatic loss of citizenship.The bill proposes three mechanisms for automatic loss of citizenship.
First, a new provision where a person renounces their citizenship if they act inconsistently with their allegiance to Australia by engaging in certain terrorist conduct.First, a new provision where a person renounces their citizenship if they act inconsistently with their allegiance to Australia by engaging in certain terrorist conduct.
Second, an extension of the provision for a person fighting in the armed forces of another country against Australia. In that situation a person ceases to be an Australian citizen if they fight for or are in the services of a specified terrorist organisation overseas.Second, an extension of the provision for a person fighting in the armed forces of another country against Australia. In that situation a person ceases to be an Australian citizen if they fight for or are in the services of a specified terrorist organisation overseas.
Third, a new loss of citizenship provision if the person has been convicted of a specified terrorism offence by an Australian court.Third, a new loss of citizenship provision if the person has been convicted of a specified terrorism offence by an Australian court.
Updated at 10.14am AESTUpdated at 10.14am AEST
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Peter Dutton is delivering a second reading speech, with Malcolm Turnbull sitting behind him.Peter Dutton is delivering a second reading speech, with Malcolm Turnbull sitting behind him.
[Citizenship] is a common bond that unites us all, whether we were born here or chose to make Australia our home. Citizenship shows a commitment to this country, its people and its democratic rights an privileges. Australian citizenship should not be taken lightly.[Citizenship] is a common bond that unites us all, whether we were born here or chose to make Australia our home. Citizenship shows a commitment to this country, its people and its democratic rights an privileges. Australian citizenship should not be taken lightly.
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Citizenship bill in da house.Citizenship bill in da house.
Speaker Bishop is in the chair.Speaker Bishop is in the chair.
Here comes the bill.Here comes the bill.
The Australian citizenship amendment (allegiance to Australia) bill 2015 is in the house.The Australian citizenship amendment (allegiance to Australia) bill 2015 is in the house.
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Twitter friend and wag:Twitter friend and wag:
@gabriellechan we need to know. These Pro Bono lawyers which side are the on? Also why r they such fans of U2 anyway?@gabriellechan we need to know. These Pro Bono lawyers which side are the on? Also why r they such fans of U2 anyway?
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From our colleague down at Sky, the Daily Tele’s spread on Q&A.From our colleague down at Sky, the Daily Tele’s spread on Q&A.
Is this a real qanda panel? pic.twitter.com/EbvNgWMXKzIs this a real qanda panel? pic.twitter.com/EbvNgWMXKz
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PM: Plenty of pro-bono lawyers will rush to help the first person affected by lawsPM: Plenty of pro-bono lawyers will rush to help the first person affected by laws
Tony Abbott does not seem to be worried about anyone inadvertently getting caught up by national security laws.Tony Abbott does not seem to be worried about anyone inadvertently getting caught up by national security laws.
I am sure there will be all sorts of pro-bono lawyers who will be rushing to help the first person for whom this takes place but the fact is if you’re a terrorist, you’ve left our country to fight with a movement that regards our way of life as in some way satanic, it is saying to us, submit or die, which hates our freedom, which hates our tolerance, which hates the welcome that we give to minorities, which hates everything about the way we live, frankly why should we consider you to be one of us?I am sure there will be all sorts of pro-bono lawyers who will be rushing to help the first person for whom this takes place but the fact is if you’re a terrorist, you’ve left our country to fight with a movement that regards our way of life as in some way satanic, it is saying to us, submit or die, which hates our freedom, which hates our tolerance, which hates the welcome that we give to minorities, which hates everything about the way we live, frankly why should we consider you to be one of us?
Updated at 8.52am AESTUpdated at 8.52am AEST
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Tony Abbott: All too often the ABC seems to be on everyone's side but Australia'sTony Abbott: All too often the ABC seems to be on everyone's side but Australia's
The citizenship legislation will be introduced to the parliament at 9am.The citizenship legislation will be introduced to the parliament at 9am.
Meantime, here is Tony Abbott, who was speaking to Sunrise this morning.Meantime, here is Tony Abbott, who was speaking to Sunrise this morning.
Our supposed national broadcaster is giving a platform to someone who hates us, hates our way of life, supports the terrorists that would do us harm and again I say, the issue for the ABC, our national broadcaster, is whose side are you on because all too often the ABC seems to be on everyone’s side but Australia’s.Our supposed national broadcaster is giving a platform to someone who hates us, hates our way of life, supports the terrorists that would do us harm and again I say, the issue for the ABC, our national broadcaster, is whose side are you on because all too often the ABC seems to be on everyone’s side but Australia’s.
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Daniel HurstDaniel Hurst
The GST is back on the agenda. Here is Daniel Hurst’s report:The GST is back on the agenda. Here is Daniel Hurst’s report:
The Abbott government has reignited debate about the carve-up of the goods and services tax after releasing a reform blueprint that includes the option of tying allocations to the population of states and territories.The Abbott government has reignited debate about the carve-up of the goods and services tax after releasing a reform blueprint that includes the option of tying allocations to the population of states and territories.
Another option is a new “floor” to ensure that no state or territory’s allocation fell below a set level – an issue Western Australia has complained about given its share is set to fall below 30 cents for every dollar it contributes next financial year.Another option is a new “floor” to ensure that no state or territory’s allocation fell below a set level – an issue Western Australia has complained about given its share is set to fall below 30 cents for every dollar it contributes next financial year.
The ideas are outlined in a new discussion paper on federation reform (pdf), which also floats a federal takeover of state responsibilities for universities and the potential for the states to take charge of all homelessness services..The ideas are outlined in a new discussion paper on federation reform (pdf), which also floats a federal takeover of state responsibilities for universities and the potential for the states to take charge of all homelessness services..
The paper presents three options:The paper presents three options:
The third is the most radical option for change to the GST carve-up. The paper says it would require the unanimous support of the states and territories to move to a simple per-capita formula.The third is the most radical option for change to the GST carve-up. The paper says it would require the unanimous support of the states and territories to move to a simple per-capita formula.
Updated at 10.15am AESTUpdated at 10.15am AEST
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Renewable energy target hair cut: is it a mullet?Renewable energy target hair cut: is it a mullet?
The renewable energy target has been cut from 41,000 gigawatt hours to 33,000 gigawatt hours. The Greens and Labor tried to exclude wood waste from the RET to no avail as the government got the support of the Senate crossbenchers by appointing a windfarm commissioner. Lenore Taylor broke that story last week.The renewable energy target has been cut from 41,000 gigawatt hours to 33,000 gigawatt hours. The Greens and Labor tried to exclude wood waste from the RET to no avail as the government got the support of the Senate crossbenchers by appointing a windfarm commissioner. Lenore Taylor broke that story last week.
Industry groups welcomed the slashing of the RET, with Kate Carnell, chief executive of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, describing the new target as an:Industry groups welcomed the slashing of the RET, with Kate Carnell, chief executive of the Australian Chamber of Commerce and Industry, describing the new target as an:
enormous relief to energy users … The reduction of the target from 41,000 gigawatt hours is a sensible reform that acknowledges the changed circumstances of lower overall demand for energy than originally anticipated.enormous relief to energy users … The reduction of the target from 41,000 gigawatt hours is a sensible reform that acknowledges the changed circumstances of lower overall demand for energy than originally anticipated.
I will bring you more reaction through the morning on whether the new RET target haircut represents a trim or a mullet.I will bring you more reaction through the morning on whether the new RET target haircut represents a trim or a mullet.
Updated at 10.12am AESTUpdated at 10.12am AEST
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The ABC is in deep doodoo again. As anticipated, the warriors are out. From the highest office in the land to a wide range of media commentators, swords have been drawn to hang, draw and quarter the national broadcaster for treason.The ABC is in deep doodoo again. As anticipated, the warriors are out. From the highest office in the land to a wide range of media commentators, swords have been drawn to hang, draw and quarter the national broadcaster for treason.
This sort of thing really helps, though I’m not sure the advertiser at the bottom would be pleased.This sort of thing really helps, though I’m not sure the advertiser at the bottom would be pleased.
The front page of tomorrow's Courier-Mail. pic.twitter.com/2kRB0YcRlTThe front page of tomorrow's Courier-Mail. pic.twitter.com/2kRB0YcRlT
Peter Dutton has his metaphorical night stick out and giving the ABC a whack.Peter Dutton has his metaphorical night stick out and giving the ABC a whack.
I think people want to see a balanced Q&A, because as I say, it has been a good format, but in recent month it is has lost the plot ... They do have serious questions to answer and that’s the idea of this independent process because people need to have confidence restored into the public broadcaster because there are lots of people across the community that shouldn’t be ignored, that do have significant concerns about the composition of the audience, about now the safety aspect of going into that audience or as a panel member.I think people want to see a balanced Q&A, because as I say, it has been a good format, but in recent month it is has lost the plot ... They do have serious questions to answer and that’s the idea of this independent process because people need to have confidence restored into the public broadcaster because there are lots of people across the community that shouldn’t be ignored, that do have significant concerns about the composition of the audience, about now the safety aspect of going into that audience or as a panel member.
Updated at 10.11am AESTUpdated at 10.11am AEST
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Good morning citizens,Good morning citizens,
Hang on to your citizenship tightly this morn. The immigration minister, Peter Dutton, has been staring down at me from every television in the joint, explaining the new laws to strip citizenship, which we have yet to sight.Hang on to your citizenship tightly this morn. The immigration minister, Peter Dutton, has been staring down at me from every television in the joint, explaining the new laws to strip citizenship, which we have yet to sight.
The legislation is expected first thing this morning so it will be refreshing to have facts in front of us.The legislation is expected first thing this morning so it will be refreshing to have facts in front of us.
Dutton has told various outlets that if a dual national “serves or fights” in the name of a proscribed terrorist organisation, “by their very act” they renounce their citizenship.Dutton has told various outlets that if a dual national “serves or fights” in the name of a proscribed terrorist organisation, “by their very act” they renounce their citizenship.
Evidence for that action will be provided from intelligence agencies to the minister, who will “notify” the person. On receiving the notification, the (former) dual national may then challenge the circumstances in a court.Evidence for that action will be provided from intelligence agencies to the minister, who will “notify” the person. On receiving the notification, the (former) dual national may then challenge the circumstances in a court.
The change from the previous “ministerial discretion” option is that rather than the minister cancelling the citizenship on agency intelligence, the citizenship is stripped “automatically” by their conduct.The change from the previous “ministerial discretion” option is that rather than the minister cancelling the citizenship on agency intelligence, the citizenship is stripped “automatically” by their conduct.
Dutton says the “person themselves make the decision” and “renunciation takes place at the time of the conduct”.Dutton says the “person themselves make the decision” and “renunciation takes place at the time of the conduct”.
While I am nothing more than a bush lawyer, which is no lawyer at all, the automatic button seems troublesome.While I am nothing more than a bush lawyer, which is no lawyer at all, the automatic button seems troublesome.
It may be all well and good if the person declares they have been fighting with Isis or other orgs but I still come back to the fact that proving the conduct for someone who does not self-declare surely is still an issue.It may be all well and good if the person declares they have been fighting with Isis or other orgs but I still come back to the fact that proving the conduct for someone who does not self-declare surely is still an issue.
The other interesting development which Dutton has expanded on this morning is the fact that Australians who are dual nationals and now in jail for terrorism-related offences could have their citizenship stripped under the laws.The other interesting development which Dutton has expanded on this morning is the fact that Australians who are dual nationals and now in jail for terrorism-related offences could have their citizenship stripped under the laws.
The legislation presented this morning will not be retrospective but after it is introduced, it will go straight to the parliamentary joint committee on security and intelligence, which will be asked to look at whether the law should be retrospective.The legislation presented this morning will not be retrospective but after it is introduced, it will go straight to the parliamentary joint committee on security and intelligence, which will be asked to look at whether the law should be retrospective.
PDutton says there are now 23 Australians in jail for terrorism related offences and about half are dual nationals.PDutton says there are now 23 Australians in jail for terrorism related offences and about half are dual nationals.
There is a question about whether or not there should be some applicability to the 23 or those who are serving jail sentences now and that’s an issue for the committee which is a joint committee between Liberal and Labor to have a look at that question, but we don’t propose retrospectivity in its current form.There is a question about whether or not there should be some applicability to the 23 or those who are serving jail sentences now and that’s an issue for the committee which is a joint committee between Liberal and Labor to have a look at that question, but we don’t propose retrospectivity in its current form.
The other thing that happened while we were having a life was the passage of the renewable energy target through the Senate. You now have a windfarm commissioner, who will be paid for out of “existing savings” in the environment department, so kick back and relax.The other thing that happened while we were having a life was the passage of the renewable energy target through the Senate. You now have a windfarm commissioner, who will be paid for out of “existing savings” in the environment department, so kick back and relax.
Jump into the conversation below, or on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers.Jump into the conversation below, or on the Twits @gabriellechan and @mpbowers.
Second-last sitting day of parliament before the winter break. Giddy up.Second-last sitting day of parliament before the winter break. Giddy up.
Updated at 10.09am AESTUpdated at 10.09am AEST