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| Has the glass ceiling for women finally been shattered by Hillary Clinton? – live | Has the glass ceiling for women finally been shattered by Hillary Clinton? – live |
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| That is the colossal event that guarantees Clinton a unique place in US history | |
| Anne Perkins | |
| How slowly revolutions seem to happen when you live through them. Nearly100 years after women’s suffrage first arrived in the US, two generations after feminism began the gradual transformation of its public face, Hillary Clinton has at last become the first woman to win the presidential nomination of one of the two main parties. | |
| That is the colossal, historic event that, win or lose, will guarantee Clinton a unique place in American history. The scale of it cannot be overstated. The world’s biggest economy might now be led by a woman; the world’s mightiest military may have a female commander in chief. There are many different versions of justice, but for women this is surely the pinnacle. | |
| Already, Clinton is no longer a former first lady, nor a former secretary of state. If she wins, she will not be thought of as second or subordinate or wife of or mother of anyone. She will be It. | |
| But her triumph means more than that. It is an astonishing personal achievement. The resilience she has shown throughout her public life is nothing short of an inspiration. As first lady, she has survived the wretched period of the Monica Lewinsky affair, the threat of impeachment, and two gruelling campaigns as wife of the nominee. She has been a senator, she has fought for her party’s nomination and been defeated by a challenger she had not seen coming. She was secretary of state for nearly four years. | |
| That means the six months between now and polling day will be even more testing than they will be for her rival. She has so much to overcome – miscalls on Syria and Libya as secretary of state, questions over her use of a private email account, her huge income from public speaking, her chill public demeanour and the political challenge left to the Democrats by Bernie Sanders. | |
| It means something else, though. She has been through so much already. She is truly fired in the unrelenting heat of the public gaze. She is not likely to crack now. | |
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| This job will never be open to those not born into class privilege | |
| Julie Bindel | |
| I do not care about the glass ceiling while millions of women and girls live in abject poverty. No working class girl who is growing up in this cruel, neoliberal world will look at Clinton and think, “I could be president/prime minister one day” because this job will never be open to those not born into class privilege. | |
| Clinton is no feminist, and has betrayed the women that accused Bill Clinton of sexual assault in order to further her career. I would vote for any Democrat to keep the Republicans out, including Clinton, but she is no friend to women. | |
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| Here are a few responses to Clinton’s victory from popular social media platform Twitter. Lots of people expressing their admiration for the achievement, but plenty of dissenting voices too. | |
| If you want to share you views on the debate via Twitter, we’re on @GuardianOpinion | |
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| A lot of little girls are in bed right now dreaming for the first time, without limits. You broke the mold @HillaryClinton 🇺🇸 | |
| Couldn't help thinking of my 12 year old daughter when I heard Hilary Clinton's speech. Today is an historic day. | |
| Bull. Not under the plutocracy u represent. As a feminist, I should feel a thrill right now. I grieve that I don't. https://t.co/uz0y08mbbi | |
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| Sarah Marsh | |
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| Welcome to the debate | Welcome to the debate |
| Sarah Marsh | Sarah Marsh |
| Last night Hillary Clinton claimed the Democratic nomination, embracing her role as the first woman in history to lead a major party’s bid for the White House. | Last night Hillary Clinton claimed the Democratic nomination, embracing her role as the first woman in history to lead a major party’s bid for the White House. |
| The former secretary of state celebrated her victory in the nominating race over rival Bernie Sanders with supporters in New York. She described it as a “milestone” moment for women. | The former secretary of state celebrated her victory in the nominating race over rival Bernie Sanders with supporters in New York. She described it as a “milestone” moment for women. |
| This comes despite the fact Sanders is still running, and the party’s nominee won’t be official until the delegate votes at the parties’ national conventions next month. | This comes despite the fact Sanders is still running, and the party’s nominee won’t be official until the delegate votes at the parties’ national conventions next month. |
| Clinton tweeted: “Tonight we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break.” | Clinton tweeted: “Tonight we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break.” |
| Tonight, we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break. pic.twitter.com/7vbGPJe543 | Tonight, we can say with pride that, in America, there is no barrier too great and no ceiling too high to break. pic.twitter.com/7vbGPJe543 |
| Many women voters reacted to the news with emotion. “To paraphrase Neil Armstrong, this is one big step for women, and a bigger step for America,” said Barbara Lee, founder and president of the nonpartisan Barbara Lee Family Foundation which researches women’s races for executive office. | Many women voters reacted to the news with emotion. “To paraphrase Neil Armstrong, this is one big step for women, and a bigger step for America,” said Barbara Lee, founder and president of the nonpartisan Barbara Lee Family Foundation which researches women’s races for executive office. |
| “A woman at the head of the table changes the conversation,” Lee continued. “A woman at the top of the ticket changes our perception of leadership – and the narrative about what girls can aspire to be.” | “A woman at the head of the table changes the conversation,” Lee continued. “A woman at the top of the ticket changes our perception of leadership – and the narrative about what girls can aspire to be.” |
| Certainly evidence would suggest that women in office inspire other women to run. Amelia Showalter, a political consultant specialising in data and analytics, studied the impact of electing women to statewide offices and found that the presence of a recruiting campaign could increase the share of women in the state legislature by about a percentage point. But what’s the impact beyond the political sphere? | Certainly evidence would suggest that women in office inspire other women to run. Amelia Showalter, a political consultant specialising in data and analytics, studied the impact of electing women to statewide offices and found that the presence of a recruiting campaign could increase the share of women in the state legislature by about a percentage point. But what’s the impact beyond the political sphere? |
| Outside of the highest echelons of power, around the world women still face great challenges, including economic inequality, domestic violence, and other forms of violence against women. | Outside of the highest echelons of power, around the world women still face great challenges, including economic inequality, domestic violence, and other forms of violence against women. |
| What’s more, it’s been argued that Clinton does not represent values that help women, especially those from diverse racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. Speaking to The Guardian Anoa Changa said: “I’m sure for a certain class of women [Hillary Clinton] is perfect ... But there are a lot of issues that affect low-income women, immigrant women and women of color that her brand of doing things is not going to address.” | What’s more, it’s been argued that Clinton does not represent values that help women, especially those from diverse racial and socioeconomic backgrounds. Speaking to The Guardian Anoa Changa said: “I’m sure for a certain class of women [Hillary Clinton] is perfect ... But there are a lot of issues that affect low-income women, immigrant women and women of color that her brand of doing things is not going to address.” |
| Changa said Sanders’ campaign for free tuition and a $15 minimum wage (among other things) tackles the roots of poverty, an issue that disproportionately affects women, better than Clinton’s platform. | Changa said Sanders’ campaign for free tuition and a $15 minimum wage (among other things) tackles the roots of poverty, an issue that disproportionately affects women, better than Clinton’s platform. |
| Join us 12pm to 2pm to discuss the significance of this moment, as well as the challenges women still face today. Which industries are still rife with sexism? What can we do about the equal pay debate? How might Clinton be able to improve the situation? | Join us 12pm to 2pm to discuss the significance of this moment, as well as the challenges women still face today. Which industries are still rife with sexism? What can we do about the equal pay debate? How might Clinton be able to improve the situation? |
| Comments will be open at noon. Looking forward to kicking off at lunchtime, email ahead any comments to sarah.marsh@theguardian.com. | Comments will be open at noon. Looking forward to kicking off at lunchtime, email ahead any comments to sarah.marsh@theguardian.com. |
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