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| EU referendum live: 'very real prospect' of defeat for remain, says Burnham | EU referendum live: 'very real prospect' of defeat for remain, says Burnham |
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| What Germany admires about UK - nonchalance, progress, inner independence and 'anti-authoritarian, defiant tendencies' | |
| Philip Oltermann’s story also highlights what the German magazine Der Spiegel is saying in its “Please don’t go” special bilingual Brexit edition. Its editorial talks about how much Germans value Britain. | |
| It turns out the Germans admire us for nonchalance, progress, inner independence and “myriad anti-authoritarian, defiant tendencies”. Here’s an excerpt from the editorial. | |
| [While it is too late] to convince the British to love the EU, perhaps we should use this opportunity to mention how much the rest of Europe admires them. It’s unbelievable that they don’t seem to see how much they’ve shaped the continent, how much we value them here, how close we Germans feel to them. | |
| Germany has always looked across the Channel with some degree of envy. On our emotional map of Europe, the Italians were responsible for love and good food, the French for beauty and elegance and the Brits for nonchalance and progress. They have an inner independence that we Germans lack, in addition to myriad anti-authoritarian, defiant tendencies. A lot of what happened in Britain spilled over to us sooner or later, reinforcing our cultural ties. | |
| But it could be exactly those “anti-authoritarian, defiant tendencies” that result in Britain voting to leave. | |
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| Germany has said that, if the UK leaves the EU, it will not be able to retain access to the single market. | Germany has said that, if the UK leaves the EU, it will not be able to retain access to the single market. |
| Here’s our story. | Here’s our story. |
| Related: No single market access for UK after Brexit, Wolfgang Schäuble says | Related: No single market access for UK after Brexit, Wolfgang Schäuble says |
| And here’s how it starts. | And here’s how it starts. |
| Germany’s finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, has slammed the door on Britain retaining access to the single market if it votes to the leave the European Union. | Germany’s finance minister, Wolfgang Schäuble, has slammed the door on Britain retaining access to the single market if it votes to the leave the European Union. |
| In an interview in a Brexit-themed issue of German weekly Der Spiegel, the influential veteran politician ruled out the possibility of the UK following a Swiss or Norwegian model where it could enjoy the benefits of the single market without being an EU member. | In an interview in a Brexit-themed issue of German weekly Der Spiegel, the influential veteran politician ruled out the possibility of the UK following a Swiss or Norwegian model where it could enjoy the benefits of the single market without being an EU member. |
| “That won’t work,” Schäuble told Der Spiegel. “It would require the country to abide by the rules of a club from which it currently wants to withdraw. | “That won’t work,” Schäuble told Der Spiegel. “It would require the country to abide by the rules of a club from which it currently wants to withdraw. |
| “If the majority in Britain opts for Brexit, that would be a decision against the single market. In is in. Out is out. One has to respect the sovereignty of the British people.” | “If the majority in Britain opts for Brexit, that would be a decision against the single market. In is in. Out is out. One has to respect the sovereignty of the British people.” |
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| Ed Miliband says Leave campaign a 'fraud' because they don't care about NHS and rights | Ed Miliband says Leave campaign a 'fraud' because they don't care about NHS and rights |
| Peter Walker | Peter Walker |
| I’ve had a quick chat with Ed Miliband before he speaks on behalf of the Remain camp at an event in London organised by the UK in a Changing Europe think tank. The former Labour leader said his address would be “a call to arms for Labour voters to vote for Remain, because I believe it’s the right thing for working people”. He continued: | I’ve had a quick chat with Ed Miliband before he speaks on behalf of the Remain camp at an event in London organised by the UK in a Changing Europe think tank. The former Labour leader said his address would be “a call to arms for Labour voters to vote for Remain, because I believe it’s the right thing for working people”. He continued: |
| I think it’s the right thing for our economy, for jobs, for social justice, for tackling climate change, for tackling tax avoidance, for all of the big things we need to deal with as a country. | I think it’s the right thing for our economy, for jobs, for social justice, for tackling climate change, for tackling tax avoidance, for all of the big things we need to deal with as a country. |
| Miliband criticised Brexiteers for, as he saw it, falsely taking on the slogans of the left to push for their goal: | Miliband criticised Brexiteers for, as he saw it, falsely taking on the slogans of the left to push for their goal: |
| It’s also calling out the fraud of the Leave campaign. What we’re seeing is Tory people in the Leave campaign trying to clothe themselves in Labour colours, trying to say that whether it’s the NHS, or inequality, or the rights of working people, that somehow they’re in the right place on this. | It’s also calling out the fraud of the Leave campaign. What we’re seeing is Tory people in the Leave campaign trying to clothe themselves in Labour colours, trying to say that whether it’s the NHS, or inequality, or the rights of working people, that somehow they’re in the right place on this. |
| I’ve got to ask: where were these people at the last general election? They certainly weren’t making that case. Actually, all of the record and all of the ideology of those who want us to leave is because they want to sweep away workers’ rights. They want a bonfire of those rights. | I’ve got to ask: where were these people at the last general election? They certainly weren’t making that case. Actually, all of the record and all of the ideology of those who want us to leave is because they want to sweep away workers’ rights. They want a bonfire of those rights. |
| The NHS would be weaker because our economy would be weaker. That need to be called out, and that’s what I’m doing today. | The NHS would be weaker because our economy would be weaker. That need to be called out, and that’s what I’m doing today. |
| Miliband agreed that people like Boris Johnson and Michael Gove were using arguments they knew to be false. | Miliband agreed that people like Boris Johnson and Michael Gove were using arguments they knew to be false. |
| Every time the Leave campaign gets exposed they say it’s project fear. It’s not project fear, it’s project fact. The fact is that Boris Johnson said two years ago that he was worried about the burden of regulations. He cited things like directives on part-time work, on agency work, on things that give vital rights to people. Whenever they get confronted with an inconvenient fact, they say it’s about fear. | Every time the Leave campaign gets exposed they say it’s project fear. It’s not project fear, it’s project fact. The fact is that Boris Johnson said two years ago that he was worried about the burden of regulations. He cited things like directives on part-time work, on agency work, on things that give vital rights to people. Whenever they get confronted with an inconvenient fact, they say it’s about fear. |
| Ed Miliband making his Labour case for staying in Europe speech in Westminster. pic.twitter.com/iTLixRbGRg | Ed Miliband making his Labour case for staying in Europe speech in Westminster. pic.twitter.com/iTLixRbGRg |
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| More than 400,000 applied to register to vote in 48-hour extension period | More than 400,000 applied to register to vote in 48-hour extension period |
| More than 436,000 people applied to vote in the EU referendum during the 48-hour extended registration period after the government-run website crashed, the Press Association reports. | More than 436,000 people applied to vote in the EU referendum during the 48-hour extended registration period after the government-run website crashed, the Press Association reports. |
| Some 238,903 voters applied to register online on Wednesday, joined by 191,508 on Thursday, and another 5,936 people using paper forms, bringing the total applications over the last four days to almost 1.2m. | Some 238,903 voters applied to register online on Wednesday, joined by 191,508 on Thursday, and another 5,936 people using paper forms, bringing the total applications over the last four days to almost 1.2m. |
| The deadline to register to vote was pushed back by MPs after thousands of voters were prevented from registering by the original deadline of midnight on Tuesday when the website failed. | The deadline to register to vote was pushed back by MPs after thousands of voters were prevented from registering by the original deadline of midnight on Tuesday when the website failed. |
| According to a live monitoring site there was a flurry of activity on the registration service webpage in the minutes before midnight on Thursday. | According to a live monitoring site there was a flurry of activity on the registration service webpage in the minutes before midnight on Thursday. |
| The monitor showed there were just under 5,000 people using the service at 11.55pm and more than 3,000 still on the site after the deadline had passed. | The monitor showed there were just under 5,000 people using the service at 11.55pm and more than 3,000 still on the site after the deadline had passed. |
| During the 24 hours leading up to the original deadline, more than half a million people applied to register, causing a system overload. | During the 24 hours leading up to the original deadline, more than half a million people applied to register, causing a system overload. |
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| Here’s a link to Labour’s Tory Brexit Budget document. | Here’s a link to Labour’s Tory Brexit Budget document. |
| Read the #ToryBrexit budget here ⛔ 💷 📉 #EUref https://t.co/pINK4JmdLC pic.twitter.com/NE8k2njmdN | Read the #ToryBrexit budget here ⛔ 💷 📉 #EUref https://t.co/pINK4JmdLC pic.twitter.com/NE8k2njmdN |
| Summary and analysis coming up soon ... | Summary and analysis coming up soon ... |
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| My colleague Rowena Mason is at the Labour briefing about the “Tory Brexit budget”. Labour have been spending money on Boris Johnson masks. | My colleague Rowena Mason is at the Labour briefing about the “Tory Brexit budget”. Labour have been spending money on Boris Johnson masks. |
| Just been handed a copy of a "Tory Brexit budget" by Boris-masked Labour activists. pic.twitter.com/fiZPMP7fCt | Just been handed a copy of a "Tory Brexit budget" by Boris-masked Labour activists. pic.twitter.com/fiZPMP7fCt |
| I will post a summary of the document, which has just been released, in a moment. | I will post a summary of the document, which has just been released, in a moment. |
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| Mann says Labour's problem is its supporters don't like its EU policy, not that they haven't heard it | Mann says Labour's problem is its supporters don't like its EU policy, not that they haven't heard it |
| The Labour MP John Mann’s declaration that he is voting Leave is a bit more suprising. He explains his thinking in an open letter to Sun readers. And in an interview on the Today programme he went into more detail. | The Labour MP John Mann’s declaration that he is voting Leave is a bit more suprising. He explains his thinking in an open letter to Sun readers. And in an interview on the Today programme he went into more detail. |
| Many Labour figures think the party’s problem in the EU referendum has been that it has not got its message across to voters; that it has not told them about the Labour case for staying in (to protect employment rights, in part), and that as a result Labour supporters are not backing Remain. | Many Labour figures think the party’s problem in the EU referendum has been that it has not got its message across to voters; that it has not told them about the Labour case for staying in (to protect employment rights, in part), and that as a result Labour supporters are not backing Remain. |
| Mann’s argument was different, and more worrying for the party. He said Labour’s problem is not that its supporters do not know about its polices; it’s that they do, and that they profoundly disagree. | Mann’s argument was different, and more worrying for the party. He said Labour’s problem is not that its supporters do not know about its polices; it’s that they do, and that they profoundly disagree. |
| Here are the key points. | Here are the key points. |
| I’ve attempted to put the case for and against in public forums, and I’ve found it impossible to argue the case for. It’s because the EU is fundamentally broken. It’s undemocratic. Even when you want to get changes, as David Cameron tried, you can’t get them. | I’ve attempted to put the case for and against in public forums, and I’ve found it impossible to argue the case for. It’s because the EU is fundamentally broken. It’s undemocratic. Even when you want to get changes, as David Cameron tried, you can’t get them. |
| It is not that Labour is not getting its message across to Labour voters. It’s that Labour voters are fundamentally disagreeing on this issue. | It is not that Labour is not getting its message across to Labour voters. It’s that Labour voters are fundamentally disagreeing on this issue. |
| It has got nothing to do with that. Jeremy Corbyn is far more in touch on this issue than Ed Miliband. Hence he’s been more equivocal in some of the things he’s said ... It is nothing to do with for or against Jeremy Corbyn. | It has got nothing to do with that. Jeremy Corbyn is far more in touch on this issue than Ed Miliband. Hence he’s been more equivocal in some of the things he’s said ... It is nothing to do with for or against Jeremy Corbyn. |
| Updated | Updated |
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| Here is the Labour MP Barry Sheerman on the “news” that his colleague Dennis Skinner if voting Leave. See 7.40am. (I’ve used the inverted commas, because Skinner is a diehard Eurosceptics, and so this is not much of a surprise.) | Here is the Labour MP Barry Sheerman on the “news” that his colleague Dennis Skinner if voting Leave. See 7.40am. (I’ve used the inverted commas, because Skinner is a diehard Eurosceptics, and so this is not much of a surprise.) |
| I'm very fond of Dennis Skinner but he's wrong on # Brexit & I fear that his Bolsover constituents would pay a high price if we left EU. | I'm very fond of Dennis Skinner but he's wrong on # Brexit & I fear that his Bolsover constituents would pay a high price if we left EU. |
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| According to the Birmingham Mail, the Labour MP Khalid Mahmood, who was once a Leave supporter, will announce today he is backing Remain. He abandoned Leave in February, because he said he did not like its negative focus on immigration, but now he has reportedly staged a full defection. | According to the Birmingham Mail, the Labour MP Khalid Mahmood, who was once a Leave supporter, will announce today he is backing Remain. He abandoned Leave in February, because he said he did not like its negative focus on immigration, but now he has reportedly staged a full defection. |
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| Labour claims a 'Brexit budget' would require tax rises or benefit cuts worth £18bn | Labour claims a 'Brexit budget' would require tax rises or benefit cuts worth £18bn |
| In another sign that the EU referendum is unfolding like a classic general election, today we’re getting an attack document that focuses on costing the other side’s plans. It comes from Labour, and it will set out what they claim would be the contents of a Tory “Brexit budget”. | In another sign that the EU referendum is unfolding like a classic general election, today we’re getting an attack document that focuses on costing the other side’s plans. It comes from Labour, and it will set out what they claim would be the contents of a Tory “Brexit budget”. |
| Using figures from the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ report on the economic impact of leaving the EU, Labour has tried to estimate what the cut to government revenues forecast by the IFS would mean for departmental spending, taxes and benefits. | Using figures from the Institute for Fiscal Studies’ report on the economic impact of leaving the EU, Labour has tried to estimate what the cut to government revenues forecast by the IFS would mean for departmental spending, taxes and benefits. |
| We will see the full document later but, according to a briefing note sent out by Labour overnight, they will claim a “Brexit budget” would mean: | We will see the full document later but, according to a briefing note sent out by Labour overnight, they will claim a “Brexit budget” would mean: |
| Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, will say: | Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, will say: |
| Working people across the UK face a double threat if we vote to Leave: a massive black hole in the public finances, and an unfair Tory government that will make ordinary families pay for it through further cuts and tax rises. | Working people across the UK face a double threat if we vote to Leave: a massive black hole in the public finances, and an unfair Tory government that will make ordinary families pay for it through further cuts and tax rises. |
| Labour is clear that Britain is better off in Europe. It brings us jobs, growth and investment, protects British workers and consumers and helps keep us safe. Leaving would put that at risk. | Labour is clear that Britain is better off in Europe. It brings us jobs, growth and investment, protects British workers and consumers and helps keep us safe. Leaving would put that at risk. |
| People like Boris Johnson and Michael Gove might be able to afford that risk – but millions of working people across our country simply can’t. | People like Boris Johnson and Michael Gove might be able to afford that risk – but millions of working people across our country simply can’t. |
| Leave will not accept these figures at all because they claim the IFS is simply wrong about Brexit reducing national income. | Leave will not accept these figures at all because they claim the IFS is simply wrong about Brexit reducing national income. |
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| The Ukip MEP Patrick O’Flynn thinks Ed Miliband’s appearance on the Today programme this morning proves Ed Miliband’s point about Labour being too Hampstead and not enough Hull. (See 7.16am.) | The Ukip MEP Patrick O’Flynn thinks Ed Miliband’s appearance on the Today programme this morning proves Ed Miliband’s point about Labour being too Hampstead and not enough Hull. (See 7.16am.) |
| Burnham says there is too much North London in Lab In campaign and then they wheel out Ed Miliband... | Burnham says there is too much North London in Lab In campaign and then they wheel out Ed Miliband... |