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| Bill Shorten expects Coalition to 'scrape over the line' – politics live | Bill Shorten expects Coalition to 'scrape over the line' – politics live |
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| Politically, the day is winding down with flags nailed to masts and whispers of concession in the way Labor MPs spoke and tentative (or in the case of Christopher Pyne outright) declarations of victory on the Coalition side. | |
| As an Independent, I stand by my principles of no deals. And a deal is when you agree to do something in exchange for something else. | |
| Clearly there were swings against us, there was a swing against us nationally but swings against us in a number of seats, obviously we’ve lost a number of seats. We are heeding that. I do have to say again, that, and I don’t think any of you would argue with this, the Labor party ran a shockingly dishonest campaign on Medicare. | |
| The take out is that unless something drastic happens over the weekend the Coalition are well on track to retain government. They have Independents who have guaranteed them supply and confidence and as Andrew Wilkie said it is “not conceivable” Shorten will become prime minister. | |
| It is, however, conceivable that the blog rest for a while, perhaps for the entire weekend depending on how events unfold. Until next time political nerds and nerdettes. | |
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| at 6.48am BST | |
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| The drawn out count is not just a drag for politicians and pundits alike, it’s actually affecting work on the international stage. Defence minister, Marise Payne, missing a Nato meeting in Poland today because of the uncertainty, Fairfax Media reports. | |
| Engagement in Afghanistan was discussed at the meeting and the Australian government announced troops will remain until at least next year. | |
| Senator Payne’s spokesman confirmed that she had planned to attend the Warsaw meeting, subject to the election outcome and caretaker provisions, and in consultation with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop. | |
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| Below is a great gif showing the growth in Greens votes in Melbourne from 2004 to 2016 – look at those little green people spread. I also thought the clear divide between Labor and Coalition voters was interestingly stark too. | |
| The greens are spreading - booths won by 1st preference. @mrcjohnston @myriamrobin @michellegriff @mickresearch pic.twitter.com/VMierL942m | |
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| at 6.27am BST | |
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| Meanwhile, the Labor caucus meeting where the leadership is being spilled carries on. Still waiting for the result, although it is expected nobody will challenge Shorten. | Meanwhile, the Labor caucus meeting where the leadership is being spilled carries on. Still waiting for the result, although it is expected nobody will challenge Shorten. |
| 5.26am BST | 5.26am BST |
| 05:26 | 05:26 |
| Nick Xenophon is talking on Sky at the moment. He says Christopher Pyne’s claim that the Coalition has won “lacks humility”. | Nick Xenophon is talking on Sky at the moment. He says Christopher Pyne’s claim that the Coalition has won “lacks humility”. |
| Pyne though is trumpeting his foresight | Pyne though is trumpeting his foresight |
| Antony Green predicts 77 seats for the Coalition. As I said this morning on @TheTodayShow. That's majority government. #ausvotes #auspol | Antony Green predicts 77 seats for the Coalition. As I said this morning on @TheTodayShow. That's majority government. #ausvotes #auspol |
| 5.11am BST | 5.11am BST |
| 05:11 | 05:11 |
| A Coalition victory is very likely, Malcolm Turnbull is saying it, key independents are saying it, even Bill Shorten is saying it. | A Coalition victory is very likely, Malcolm Turnbull is saying it, key independents are saying it, even Bill Shorten is saying it. |
| So what exactly has Turnbull got himself in for? Kristina Keneally and I recorded a podcast discussing the result and who could end up as the Speaker, which will be an important question in a hung parliament or slim majority government. | So what exactly has Turnbull got himself in for? Kristina Keneally and I recorded a podcast discussing the result and who could end up as the Speaker, which will be an important question in a hung parliament or slim majority government. |
| You can listen below or find it in iTunes. | You can listen below or find it in iTunes. |
| Related: Kristina Keneally: what has Malcolm Turnbull got himself into? - Behind the Lines podcast | Related: Kristina Keneally: what has Malcolm Turnbull got himself into? - Behind the Lines podcast |
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| at 5.23am BST | at 5.23am BST |
| 4.43am BST | 4.43am BST |
| 04:43 | 04:43 |
| Malcolm Turnbull has given a brief press conference, answering just one question after giving a statement on the “thoroughly independent” Cathy McGowan. | Malcolm Turnbull has given a brief press conference, answering just one question after giving a statement on the “thoroughly independent” Cathy McGowan. |
| We’ve known each other for a long time. We’ve always had a good relationship ... she recognises the importance of a stable parliament and she can provide support, consistent with what she’s done in the past by supporting the government. That’s my government, on matters of supply and confidence. | We’ve known each other for a long time. We’ve always had a good relationship ... she recognises the importance of a stable parliament and she can provide support, consistent with what she’s done in the past by supporting the government. That’s my government, on matters of supply and confidence. |
| Turnbull is asked why the Coalition did quite well in Victoria and uses the opportunity to attack the Medicare campaign. | Turnbull is asked why the Coalition did quite well in Victoria and uses the opportunity to attack the Medicare campaign. |
| I won’t run a commentary on it other than to say clearly there were swings against us in – there was a swing against us nationally but swings against us in a number of seats, obviously we’ve lost a number of seats. We are heeding that. I do have to say again, that, and I don’t think any of you would argue with this, the Labor party ran a shockingly dishonest campaign on Medicare. | I won’t run a commentary on it other than to say clearly there were swings against us in – there was a swing against us nationally but swings against us in a number of seats, obviously we’ve lost a number of seats. We are heeding that. I do have to say again, that, and I don’t think any of you would argue with this, the Labor party ran a shockingly dishonest campaign on Medicare. |
| There are lessons to be learned for all concerned. We are taking very careful note of the outcome, we respect the judgment of the people. This election is not really about Michael or me or any of the members and candidates. It’s about the Australian people. We are determined to bring people together to ensure the 45th parliament is stable, productive and governing and legislating in the national interest. | There are lessons to be learned for all concerned. We are taking very careful note of the outcome, we respect the judgment of the people. This election is not really about Michael or me or any of the members and candidates. It’s about the Australian people. We are determined to bring people together to ensure the 45th parliament is stable, productive and governing and legislating in the national interest. |
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| We have a photo from the meeting between Cathy McGowan and Malcolm Turnbull earlier today. | We have a photo from the meeting between Cathy McGowan and Malcolm Turnbull earlier today. |
| McGowan has already said she is not going to do any deals, but one wonders if the Wangaratta hospital is going to get the funding Sophie Mirabella says it lost when she did not win Indi in 2013. | McGowan has already said she is not going to do any deals, but one wonders if the Wangaratta hospital is going to get the funding Sophie Mirabella says it lost when she did not win Indi in 2013. |
| Met w/ @TurnbullMalcolm agreed to continue supporting Gov of the day, proudly maintaining my independence #indivotes pic.twitter.com/OvxcjMWrmw | Met w/ @TurnbullMalcolm agreed to continue supporting Gov of the day, proudly maintaining my independence #indivotes pic.twitter.com/OvxcjMWrmw |
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| at 4.21am BST | at 4.21am BST |
| 3.39am BST | 3.39am BST |
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| Cathy McGowan will guarantee supply and confidence | Cathy McGowan will guarantee supply and confidence |
| Independent Cathy McGowan has met with Malcolm Turnbull this morning and in an announcement consistent with her previous position she says she will guarantee supply and confidence to whichever party forms government. | Independent Cathy McGowan has met with Malcolm Turnbull this morning and in an announcement consistent with her previous position she says she will guarantee supply and confidence to whichever party forms government. |
| She will vote on legislation on a case-by-case basis. | She will vote on legislation on a case-by-case basis. |
| I appreciate how important it is for this current situation to be resolved in a timely manner. The country wants stable and settled government to enable everybody to get on with their lives and business. As an Independent, I stand by my principles of no deals. And a deal is when you agree to do something in exchange for something else. | I appreciate how important it is for this current situation to be resolved in a timely manner. The country wants stable and settled government to enable everybody to get on with their lives and business. As an Independent, I stand by my principles of no deals. And a deal is when you agree to do something in exchange for something else. |
| I will continue to work with the government of the day and I will continue to consider each piece of legislation on merits, both according to my conscience and the needs of my electorate and the country. | I will continue to work with the government of the day and I will continue to consider each piece of legislation on merits, both according to my conscience and the needs of my electorate and the country. |
| She calls her discussion with Turnbull “solid” and said her preference is not to go back to an election. | She calls her discussion with Turnbull “solid” and said her preference is not to go back to an election. |
| We talked about professionalism in politics and how important it is for people to be able to trust each other and that’s certainly what I bring as an Independent, an open, trusting willingness to work with the government of the day to do the business of the country that needs to be done. | We talked about professionalism in politics and how important it is for people to be able to trust each other and that’s certainly what I bring as an Independent, an open, trusting willingness to work with the government of the day to do the business of the country that needs to be done. |
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| at 3.41am BST | at 3.41am BST |
| 3.31am BST | 3.31am BST |
| 03:31 | 03:31 |
| Bill Shorten also used his pre-Labor caucus meeting speech to defend the campaign on Medicare, a key platform. He calls Malcolm Turnbull’s election night speech an “extraordinary outburst” and the Liberals are blaming the Australian people for their “disastrous” campaign. | Bill Shorten also used his pre-Labor caucus meeting speech to defend the campaign on Medicare, a key platform. He calls Malcolm Turnbull’s election night speech an “extraordinary outburst” and the Liberals are blaming the Australian people for their “disastrous” campaign. |
| The Liberals think that a massive swing against them was a matter of perception alone, that somehow there weren’t enough negative Liberal TV ads and everything would have been right. They think it’s a problem with their message, their image. | The Liberals think that a massive swing against them was a matter of perception alone, that somehow there weren’t enough negative Liberal TV ads and everything would have been right. They think it’s a problem with their message, their image. |
| Mr Turnbull is not a person of substance. For him it is always just a matter of style. But Saturday cannot be put down by our opponents to a failure of communication alone. It wasn’t that the Liberals didn’t talk about Medicare, it was what they were doing to Medicare. | Mr Turnbull is not a person of substance. For him it is always just a matter of style. But Saturday cannot be put down by our opponents to a failure of communication alone. It wasn’t that the Liberals didn’t talk about Medicare, it was what they were doing to Medicare. |
| Freezing the GP rebate so that 14.5 million Australians will have to pay more to see their doctor. Raising the price of medicine by cutting the PBS, imposing new up front fees and charges for blood tests, mammograms, x-rays, diagnostic imaging. At every turn, undermining and hollowing out Medicare as we know it, pushing the price of healthcare back on to families and individuals. | Freezing the GP rebate so that 14.5 million Australians will have to pay more to see their doctor. Raising the price of medicine by cutting the PBS, imposing new up front fees and charges for blood tests, mammograms, x-rays, diagnostic imaging. At every turn, undermining and hollowing out Medicare as we know it, pushing the price of healthcare back on to families and individuals. |
| And then when these fresh offences added to their 40-year history of attacking and undermining Medicare, we know when the Liberal Party set up a taskforce to investigate privatising parts of Medicare, then we are entitled to query their motive, to question the outcome and to stand up for Australians. | And then when these fresh offences added to their 40-year history of attacking and undermining Medicare, we know when the Liberal Party set up a taskforce to investigate privatising parts of Medicare, then we are entitled to query their motive, to question the outcome and to stand up for Australians. |
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| at 3.52am BST | at 3.52am BST |
| 3.24am BST | 3.24am BST |
| 03:24 | 03:24 |
| Bill Shorten: Coalition will likely win | Bill Shorten: Coalition will likely win |
| It’s likely in coming days that the Liberals will scrape over the line but the combination of a PM with no authority, a Government with no direction and a Liberal party at war with itself, will see Australians back at the polls within the year. | It’s likely in coming days that the Liberals will scrape over the line but the combination of a PM with no authority, a Government with no direction and a Liberal party at war with itself, will see Australians back at the polls within the year. |
| We will fight for our positive plans in the 45th Parliament, we will respect the judgement of the people and be true to our policies and propositions upon which we sought the support, which we received. But we will be campaign-ready from this day onwards. | We will fight for our positive plans in the 45th Parliament, we will respect the judgement of the people and be true to our policies and propositions upon which we sought the support, which we received. But we will be campaign-ready from this day onwards. |
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| at 3.27am BST | at 3.27am BST |
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| 03:22 | 03:22 |
| Shorten speaks to issues of diversity and division, and acknowledges that there are swathes of voters not supporting either major party. | Shorten speaks to issues of diversity and division, and acknowledges that there are swathes of voters not supporting either major party. |
| Grappling with the uncertainty of a transforming economy, a society where old norms and institutions seem less permanent than they once did and undoubtedly there are Australians who do feel left out, excluded, alienated from a political process which does not seem to speak to the issues in their lives. In such a climate, it’s easy for the extremists, for the people with the simple solutions to emerge and thrive, to foster division, to blame minorities, to demonise difference to appeal to the dark angels of our national character. This is not the Labor way. | Grappling with the uncertainty of a transforming economy, a society where old norms and institutions seem less permanent than they once did and undoubtedly there are Australians who do feel left out, excluded, alienated from a political process which does not seem to speak to the issues in their lives. In such a climate, it’s easy for the extremists, for the people with the simple solutions to emerge and thrive, to foster division, to blame minorities, to demonise difference to appeal to the dark angels of our national character. This is not the Labor way. |
| He seems among other things to be making reference to the election of Pauline Hanson and ensuing debate of how to handle her. | He seems among other things to be making reference to the election of Pauline Hanson and ensuing debate of how to handle her. |
| 3.19am BST | 3.19am BST |
| 03:19 | 03:19 |
| Bill Shorten addresses caucus | Bill Shorten addresses caucus |
| Unlike our opponents we fought this election as team the results of your hard work and there for all to see. | Unlike our opponents we fought this election as team the results of your hard work and there for all to see. |
| Bill Shorten gives the media a nudge before talking about an election fought on “Labor issues”. | Bill Shorten gives the media a nudge before talking about an election fought on “Labor issues”. |
| Our wise friends in the media told us we were wasting out time talking about Labor issues. We should be proud standing up for jobs, education, health and schools are considered Labor issues. | Our wise friends in the media told us we were wasting out time talking about Labor issues. We should be proud standing up for jobs, education, health and schools are considered Labor issues. |
| We should be proud that standing up for Australian jobs and apprenticeships is considered a Labor issue. We should be proud that education, schools, university and TAFE is considered a Labor issue. | We should be proud that standing up for Australian jobs and apprenticeships is considered a Labor issue. We should be proud that education, schools, university and TAFE is considered a Labor issue. |
| We should be proud building a first class fibre NBN, taking real action on climate change, a royal commission into the banks and delivering marriage equality that these are considered Labor issues. | We should be proud building a first class fibre NBN, taking real action on climate change, a royal commission into the banks and delivering marriage equality that these are considered Labor issues. |
| Then to big cheers: | Then to big cheers: |
| I’m particularly proud that saving Medicare is seen as a Labor issue. | I’m particularly proud that saving Medicare is seen as a Labor issue. |
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| at 3.52am BST | at 3.52am BST |
| 3.15am BST | 3.15am BST |
| 03:15 | 03:15 |
| Bill Shorten is making public remarks at a caucus meeting where the leadership will be spilled (as party rules dictate). | Bill Shorten is making public remarks at a caucus meeting where the leadership will be spilled (as party rules dictate). |
| He is going through key seats that were won acknowledging the new, and in some cases returned, MPs to cheers. As noted beside me it is kind of like a school awards ceremony where a whole roll of names have to be clapped and the enthusiasm starts to flag halfway through. | He is going through key seats that were won acknowledging the new, and in some cases returned, MPs to cheers. As noted beside me it is kind of like a school awards ceremony where a whole roll of names have to be clapped and the enthusiasm starts to flag halfway through. |
| When Anne Aly is mentioned, who ran in the Western Australia seat of Cowan where counting is still going, it gets a big cheer. He goes through formalities of thanking the leadership group. | When Anne Aly is mentioned, who ran in the Western Australia seat of Cowan where counting is still going, it gets a big cheer. He goes through formalities of thanking the leadership group. |
| What we’ve accomplished we’ve accomplished together. | What we’ve accomplished we’ve accomplished together. |
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| at 3.53am BST | at 3.53am BST |