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Andrew Wilkie says he will support supply and confidence in Coalition government– politics live Andrew Wilkie says he will support supply and confidence in Coalition government– politics live
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Bill Shorten is entering the Labor caucus meeting in Canberra to a standing ovation from his party. The party rules that the party leadership can be opened after a loss, however it is expected he will be endorsed at the meeting to remain on as leader.
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Melissa Davey
A little more from the prime minister’s press conference in Melbourne earlier:
Australians have voted, we respect their decision. There are many lessons in that election for all of us, but for us, for the Liberal Party, we’re taking those lessons to heart very seriously and we respect the votes that have been cast and one way that we show that respect is by waiting for the counting to be completed or, you know, completed to the point where the decision is plain.
On his meeting with Independent Cathy McGowan he says:
I’ll be having discussions with all of the cross-benchers and looking forward to that and the aim is to ensure that we have a good, open working relationship and a constructive parliament that is perhaps, if not united on every measure, at least united in the determination to serve the Australian people in a very constructive and positive way over the next three years.
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Lots of posts around this morning showing how close the two party vote between the Coalition and Labor party is nationally – it is obviously constantly varying but only a handful of votes in it. Margins of eight and 14 votes have been common all morning.
Eight votes in it. Eight. Nationally. #ausvotes #auswaits pic.twitter.com/yo7apA8Zyv
People are a bit overexcited about it. It does not mean the election will be won or lost on five votes. We do not after all operate under a direct election system. So five votes in one seat – say a safe seat – can mean something very different in another.
The count also excludes 14 seats where the leading candidate are not Coalition or Labor so the votes for major parties in those seats are not counted.
@AnnaVidot @davidlipson And it's completely wrong
While the closeness of the two party vote nationally is interesting and worthy of note, the election is going to come down to the swing in key seats and perhaps some independents. It is not going to come down to eight, or 14, or five votes.
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I have had a quick dive below the line and I think dear reader raises a good point. How will Christopher Pyne go managing government business in a hung parliament?I have had a quick dive below the line and I think dear reader raises a good point. How will Christopher Pyne go managing government business in a hung parliament?
The smiling Christopher Pyne has to be admired for his gall if nothing else. If he stays on as Coalition manager of Reps business he won't be smiling for much longer! Herding cats would be easier.The smiling Christopher Pyne has to be admired for his gall if nothing else. If he stays on as Coalition manager of Reps business he won't be smiling for much longer! Herding cats would be easier.
It is possible he has the discipline and sense of humour to keep the cats in line most of the time. ‘Tis true though, not an enviable job (but remember the adage, worst day in government better than best day in opposition...)It is possible he has the discipline and sense of humour to keep the cats in line most of the time. ‘Tis true though, not an enviable job (but remember the adage, worst day in government better than best day in opposition...)
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The progressive response to the resuscitation of Pauline Hanson to the Senate has been messy. There has been many more attempts at nuance than when she was last in parliament, but it is messy nonetheless.The progressive response to the resuscitation of Pauline Hanson to the Senate has been messy. There has been many more attempts at nuance than when she was last in parliament, but it is messy nonetheless.
One of the popular lines is that people should not be dismissive of Hanson as “just another racist” but try to understand the people who have elected her and why. Many people have tried to go beyond her racism to find what else (anything else!) she stands for and work with that, and the response to the responses from parts of the left has been “why should we tolerate a racist?”One of the popular lines is that people should not be dismissive of Hanson as “just another racist” but try to understand the people who have elected her and why. Many people have tried to go beyond her racism to find what else (anything else!) she stands for and work with that, and the response to the responses from parts of the left has been “why should we tolerate a racist?”
John Howard has even joined the fray warning that dissing her only makes her stronger.John Howard has even joined the fray warning that dissing her only makes her stronger.
Obviously, we still do not know how to take her.Obviously, we still do not know how to take her.
Jeff Sparrow says it is not elitist to reject Hanson.Jeff Sparrow says it is not elitist to reject Hanson.
Fortunately, we don’t have to choose between embracing elitism to fight Hanson or embracing Hanson to fight elitism. It’s perfectly possible to reject both One Nation and the anti-democratic snobs – to embrace instead a progressive mass-based politics.Fortunately, we don’t have to choose between embracing elitism to fight Hanson or embracing Hanson to fight elitism. It’s perfectly possible to reject both One Nation and the anti-democratic snobs – to embrace instead a progressive mass-based politics.
Those who call for limitations on popular participation generally assume that the populace is incorrigibly bigoted. But that’s not necessarily the case at all – as a recent poll for the Australia Institute demonstrates. That survey revealed that 63% of respondents believed that refugees should be resettled within Australia.Those who call for limitations on popular participation generally assume that the populace is incorrigibly bigoted. But that’s not necessarily the case at all – as a recent poll for the Australia Institute demonstrates. That survey revealed that 63% of respondents believed that refugees should be resettled within Australia.
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In the event of a tie...In the event of a tie...
1) We have no Prime Minister.2) Taylor Swift is in the country.3) You know what must be done, Australia.1) We have no Prime Minister.2) Taylor Swift is in the country.3) You know what must be done, Australia.
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Dominic Knight is very enthusiastic about the prospect of a second election. As the counting stretches out and the future fill with uncertainty, his solution: let’s have a do over!Dominic Knight is very enthusiastic about the prospect of a second election. As the counting stretches out and the future fill with uncertainty, his solution: let’s have a do over!
This might sound like an exhausting prospect, and after a horrifyingly long campaign, it is. But if our footballers can pick themselves up at the end of a punishing season for a grand final replay, then so can our politicians. And with another election, at least there’s no prospect of Collingwood winning.This might sound like an exhausting prospect, and after a horrifyingly long campaign, it is. But if our footballers can pick themselves up at the end of a punishing season for a grand final replay, then so can our politicians. And with another election, at least there’s no prospect of Collingwood winning.
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Ben RaueBen Raue
Now we cross to Guardian Australia psephologist Ben Raue who has our latest seat count:Now we cross to Guardian Australia psephologist Ben Raue who has our latest seat count:
At the moment we have called 72 seats for the Coalition, 66 for Labor and 5 for others. We believe that Gilmore is almost certain to go to the Liberal party and Cowan (where Anne Aly faced a tough campaign) to go to Labor.At the moment we have called 72 seats for the Coalition, 66 for Labor and 5 for others. We believe that Gilmore is almost certain to go to the Liberal party and Cowan (where Anne Aly faced a tough campaign) to go to Labor.
If Gilmore and Cowan go as expected, that leaves the Coalition three seats short of a majority, with five seats left in play.If Gilmore and Cowan go as expected, that leaves the Coalition three seats short of a majority, with five seats left in play.
These five are:These five are:
These are the possible outcomes:These are the possible outcomes:
For a breakdown of what would happen in each scenario Raue has expanded here.For a breakdown of what would happen in each scenario Raue has expanded here.
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Fascinating movements in Tasmania where two senators could be elected ahead of their party colleagues thanks to below the line voting.Fascinating movements in Tasmania where two senators could be elected ahead of their party colleagues thanks to below the line voting.
Labor senator Lisa Singh and Liberal senator Richard Colbeck were both dropped down on their parties’ tickets to sixth and fifth respectively. These positions made it quite unlikely they would reelected to the Senate.Labor senator Lisa Singh and Liberal senator Richard Colbeck were both dropped down on their parties’ tickets to sixth and fifth respectively. These positions made it quite unlikely they would reelected to the Senate.
Both moves were controversial and their supporters voted below the line so they could vote for them and then put their colleagues in a different order, according to the Daily Mercury.Both moves were controversial and their supporters voted below the line so they could vote for them and then put their colleagues in a different order, according to the Daily Mercury.
From the Mercury:From the Mercury:
Polling analyst Kevin Bonham said that as well as seat balance there was a question of which major party candidates were elected.Polling analyst Kevin Bonham said that as well as seat balance there was a question of which major party candidates were elected.
“At present Catryna Bilyk is under threat from Singh in the event that Labor only win four, while David Bushby is under threat from Colbeck if the Liberals only win four,” he said.“At present Catryna Bilyk is under threat from Singh in the event that Labor only win four, while David Bushby is under threat from Colbeck if the Liberals only win four,” he said.
Tasmania traditionally had high below the line voting rates, a situation exacerbated by below the line voter rebellions against the preselection demotions.Tasmania traditionally had high below the line voting rates, a situation exacerbated by below the line voter rebellions against the preselection demotions.
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'Not conceivable' that Bill Shorten will become prime minister'Not conceivable' that Bill Shorten will become prime minister
Bridie JabourBridie Jabour
Christopher Pyne’s colleagues may not be as emphatic about victory as he is but the view is certainly consolidating that Malcolm Turnbull will remain prime minister.Christopher Pyne’s colleagues may not be as emphatic about victory as he is but the view is certainly consolidating that Malcolm Turnbull will remain prime minister.
Andrew Wilkie has released a statement saying “there is no conceivable way Bill Shorten will be in a position to form government”.Andrew Wilkie has released a statement saying “there is no conceivable way Bill Shorten will be in a position to form government”.
Wilkie will not vote against supply or confidence in the (likely Coalition) government.Wilkie will not vote against supply or confidence in the (likely Coalition) government.
To be absolutely clear, I remain steadfast that I will not enter into any deal with any party in order to help them form government. But nor will I be destructive, especially at a time like this when more than ever the country needs level heads and certainty.To be absolutely clear, I remain steadfast that I will not enter into any deal with any party in order to help them form government. But nor will I be destructive, especially at a time like this when more than ever the country needs level heads and certainty.
My focus now turns to doing what I can to help settle the situation down and foster stable government. To that end I repeat my position that I will continue to vote on parliamentary business on its merits, and consequently not support a vote against budget supply or confidence in the government unless clearly warranted, for example in a case of malfeasance.My focus now turns to doing what I can to help settle the situation down and foster stable government. To that end I repeat my position that I will continue to vote on parliamentary business on its merits, and consequently not support a vote against budget supply or confidence in the government unless clearly warranted, for example in a case of malfeasance.
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On that note, I’m handing back over to political-blog machine Bridie Jabour to bring you the rest of the political fun. Melissa Davey signing off from Melbourne, where Malcolm Turnbull is touring electorates and has plans to meet with Independent Cathy McGowan.
.@TurnbullMalcolm has responded to @cpyne calling the election by saying the minister is naturally optimistic https://t.co/pxgSk5VHz2
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'Christopher is entitled to his view that I am PM'
Turnbull is giving a press conference in Melbourne, where he has been asked if Christopher Pyne has jumped the gun by claiming victory already:
Christopher is a very confident colleague of mine and he’s entitled to express his naturally optimistic view that I’m the prime minister.
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Labor is holding its first caucus meeting since the election today. It’s expected Bill Shorten will be endorsed as ongoing leader of the party.
Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen has told reporters Shorten has the party’s support:
Is Mr Shorten the man to lead the party for the next three years?
Yes.
Are you conceding?
Conceding the election?
Yes.
There’s still lot of tight seats. Obviously Malcolm Turnbull as the incumbent prime minister has the opportunity to form government and that’s the convention and the way it should be. That gives him the opportunity to form government. Whether majority or minority, I think he’s got difficult times ahead.
Don’t you think it will be seen as a concession by meeting to discuss Bill Shorten’s leadership?
No, quite the contrary. I think we’re showing the stability, the unity of purpose we’ve shown for the last three years and we intend for that to continue.
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On the Today Show this morning, a positively gloating Christopher Pyne described the Liberal party as “an electorate winning machine”.
We’ve won again. That’s our sixth victory out of eight in the last 20 years. You’d say that we are an election-winning machine in the Liberal party. Labor has won one election out of the last eight. There has been one hung parliament.
Reaction from Labor's @tanya_plibersek to @cpyne's declaration the Coalition is an "election-winning machine" pic.twitter.com/z0oyumBh4r
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Another sporadic cut to Turnbull, where he is still in the cafe, now talking about women engineers.
It’s still very blokey. And that’s one of the big issues... not nearly enough women. It’s one of our election policies... supporting programs that encourages girls and young women to study science and engineering. Quantitative disciplines. It’s quite underdone.
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More brief and riveting scenes from Turnbull’s electorate tour of Chisholm thanks to Sky News. Someone is presenting Turnbull with some baked goods at what looks to be a cafe in Oakleigh.
“So this is what kept the campaign going,” Turnbull says. Laughter.
Someone offers him coffee.
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The ABC and Sky just broadcast some very brief live coverage of the prime minister doing a street walk in Oakleigh, 15 km south-east of Melbourne, where the Liberal’s Julia Banks will replace retiring Labor MP Anna Burke following a swing against Labor in the electorate of Chisholm.
Turnbull is told Oakleigh is “the epicentre of Greek culture in Melbourne”.
You’re OK with the Greek, prime minister?
Turnbull: “I can read a bit and speak a bit if I prepare, but I can read a bit of Greek. I studied Greek many years ago.”
Malcolm Turnbull greets new member for Chisholm Julia Banks in Oakleigh #ausvotes @abcnewsMelb @abcnews pic.twitter.com/kkIXp3gTbQ
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Meanwhile, an update from those hardworking folks at the Australian Electoral Commission.
An update on what's happening today and moving forward is available at https://t.co/1McL1EwHak #ausvotes #auspol pic.twitter.com/Cczkhf388q
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Good morning, Melissa Davey with you from Melbourne, where Turnbull is meeting with independent MP Cathy McGowan, who retained the electorate of Indi. I’m sure there will be details from that meeting later on, but what McGowan has consistently said is that she won’t be doing any deals with the new government. So it will be interesting to see what kind of commitment, if any, he gets from her.
Turnbull taking conciliatory approach to crossbench, says Coalition has a lot in common with McGowan, Katter + knows Xenophon well #ausvotes
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I am stepping away from the blog machine for about half an hour and will hand over to my fine colleague Melissa Davey. I’ll be back before you can say “woebetiding”.
Woebetidings is the word of the day, thanks Paul Keating. All the latest #politicslive with @bkjabour https://t.co/0mO6V9C8YL
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