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Paul Ryan says he won't defend Trump, hints Clinton will win – campaign live Hillary Clinton opens up 11-point lead in pre-debate poll – campaign live
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Trump campaign: 'nothing's changed'
Trump spokesman Jason Miller echoes the candidate himself: we don’t need elected Republicans anyway, we have the people behind us.
Re: today's Congressional call: Nothing's changed. Mr. Trump’s campaign has always been powered by a grassroots movement, not Washington.
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Buffett slams Trump on taxes
Actual billionaire and actual philanthropist Warren Buffett has hit back at Donald Trump after Trump, at the debate last night, defended his (Trump’s) practice of carrying forward huge personal income losses to avoid paying future federal income taxes.
I’ve never done that, Buffett says in a statement. Also, I gave $2.9bn to charity in 2015. Also, I’m currently under IRS audit but that does not prevent me from releasing tax records.
New: Statement from Warren Buffett firing back at Trump on his tax returns: pic.twitter.com/bvolw6TpUo
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Purported Clinton emails show fear that Trump might not win nomination
A new one from the trove of purported emails to and from Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta, leaked on Friday by Wikileaks.
“Right now I am petrified that Hillary is almost totally dependent on Republicans nominating Trump”:
From new Wikileaks dump: Team Hillary was terrified GOP would nominate anyone other than Trump. GOP came through in the end. pic.twitter.com/4L4Sl0ejEb
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Republican revolt over notion of abandoning Trump – report
We have reports now of Republican fury after the conference call with speaker Paul Ryan in which he said he wouldn’t defend Trump and just wanted to prevent giving Hillary Clinton a blank check. Here’s the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin:
House conservatives are FURIOUS. Carter, McClintock, Long and especially Dana R angrily tell Rs they can't abandon Trump. LINK tk shortly
It seems like people are always saying the Republican party is falling apart / about to fall apart/ threatening to fall apart etc. But an open split with the presidential nominee that causes further splits between the leadership and rank-and-file as well as splits in the rank-and-file possibly culminating in historic losses up-and-down the ballot... well we’re getting ahead of ourselves aren’t we.
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Barack Obama: Clinton went high
Just like Michelle says, when they go low, we go high. @HillaryClinton went high and showed why she'll be a POTUS for all Americans.
After Trump listed accusations of assault against Bill Clinton at the debate last night, Hillary Clinton quoted a line from Michelle Obama in her speech at the DNC convention (the first lady has also used the line on the stump), which the Clinton campaign also tweeted before the debate:
Remember. #Debate pic.twitter.com/rlMbTt5WwY
At the debate Trump replied to Clinton by saying that Michelle Obama had made nasty ads against Clinton in the 2008 campaign. Fact check: wrong-o:
Just for record, there were no ads in which @MichelleObama attacked @HillaryClinton. I know. I was there. #debates
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Reactions to Clinton landslide pollReactions to Clinton landslide poll
holy shit https://t.co/QZDrOLe4NHholy shit https://t.co/QZDrOLe4NH
LOL https://t.co/OHFACv8KNFLOL https://t.co/OHFACv8KNF
When was the last 14 point gap? https://t.co/ZegCU6GwWcWhen was the last 14 point gap? https://t.co/ZegCU6GwWc
🚨 https://t.co/bNGpqVEK5C🚨 https://t.co/bNGpqVEK5C
Jesus https://t.co/ACGgMrHO02Jesus https://t.co/ACGgMrHO02
Should point out that the NBC/WSJ poll used a pretty small sample size, and has generally had good numbers for Clinton. But, yeah...
Live look at the Clinton campaign... pic.twitter.com/bx0KOuUwSqLive look at the Clinton campaign... pic.twitter.com/bx0KOuUwSq
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Surely it couldn’t get worse for Trump?Surely it couldn’t get worse for Trump?
Reminder: This poll was taken AFTER Friday news but before last night's debate. We also will be releasing results *after* the debateReminder: This poll was taken AFTER Friday news but before last night's debate. We also will be releasing results *after* the debate
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Clinton up 11 in NBC News poll of four-way raceClinton up 11 in NBC News poll of four-way race
In a national poll conducted after the emergence of the Trump hot mic tapes but before the debate, Clinton led Trump by 11 points in a four-way race.In a national poll conducted after the emergence of the Trump hot mic tapes but before the debate, Clinton led Trump by 11 points in a four-way race.
New natl NBC/WSJ poll (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 46Trump 35Johnson 9Stein 2Was Clinton +6 in Sept(Oct 8-9, LVs)New natl NBC/WSJ poll (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 46Trump 35Johnson 9Stein 2Was Clinton +6 in Sept(Oct 8-9, LVs)
Clinton led by 14 points in a two-way race.Clinton led by 14 points in a two-way race.
Two-way in new natl NBC/WSJ (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 52Trump 38Was Clinton +7 in SeptOct 8-9, LVs)Two-way in new natl NBC/WSJ (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 52Trump 38Was Clinton +7 in SeptOct 8-9, LVs)
And Republicans in Congress took a beating:And Republicans in Congress took a beating:
Congressional preference in new NBC/WSJ: D+7 -- 49%-42%That is the highest Dem advantage in the NBC/WSJ poll since Oct '13 (gvt shutdown)Congressional preference in new NBC/WSJ: D+7 -- 49%-42%That is the highest Dem advantage in the NBC/WSJ poll since Oct '13 (gvt shutdown)
The only other time we've seen a higher Dem advantage in the congressional preferene was in Oct. 2009 https://t.co/rCoRBcaIzoThe only other time we've seen a higher Dem advantage in the congressional preferene was in Oct. 2009 https://t.co/rCoRBcaIzo
October 2009 was still the Obama honeymoon.October 2009 was still the Obama honeymoon.
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Trust the instruments...Trust the instruments...
Best color so far, per an R on call. Walden said election was like landing plane in h'cane: "You've got to trust the instruments."Polling.Best color so far, per an R on call. Walden said election was like landing plane in h'cane: "You've got to trust the instruments."Polling.
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Immigration = all the prizes. This year at least.Immigration = all the prizes. This year at least.
Six Americans won the Nobel prize this year in various sciences. ALL of them immigrants.Six Americans won the Nobel prize this year in various sciences. ALL of them immigrants.
💪🏼🇺🇸 https://t.co/VE399g2gyZ💪🏼🇺🇸 https://t.co/VE399g2gyZ
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Ryan spokeswoman: 'there is no update in his position'Ryan spokeswoman: 'there is no update in his position'
Ben JacobsBen Jacobs
“The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” a spokeswoman for House speaker Paul Ryan tells the Guardian.“The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” a spokeswoman for House speaker Paul Ryan tells the Guardian.
On whether he still endorses Trump: “There is no update in his position at this time.”On whether he still endorses Trump: “There is no update in his position at this time.”
According to someone on the call:According to someone on the call:
The speaker told members, “you all need to do what’s best for you in your district.”The speaker told members, “you all need to do what’s best for you in your district.”
He said he will not defend Trump or campaign with him for the next thirty days.He said he will not defend Trump or campaign with him for the next thirty days.
He will spend his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress.He will spend his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress.
So much for the idea that Trump stopped the bleeding last night https://t.co/DEYdpuqGM6So much for the idea that Trump stopped the bleeding last night https://t.co/DEYdpuqGM6
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Ouch. Huma Abedin bestie and Bill Clinton aide / Clinton foundation operative Doug Band purportedly writes, in the trove of purported John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks, that Chelsea Clinton was acting “like a spoiled brat kid”:Ouch. Huma Abedin bestie and Bill Clinton aide / Clinton foundation operative Doug Band purportedly writes, in the trove of purported John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks, that Chelsea Clinton was acting “like a spoiled brat kid”:
In new hacked emails dump, Doug Band vents about Chelsea Clinton. pic.twitter.com/oy1e6JwBMrIn new hacked emails dump, Doug Band vents about Chelsea Clinton. pic.twitter.com/oy1e6JwBMr
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Don’t go away! Upcoming various news teases:Don’t go away! Upcoming various news teases:
NBC/WSJ has a post-Trump tape, pre-debate national poll coming out in less than 30 minutes.Eyes emoji https://t.co/7Kan1DF6D5NBC/WSJ has a post-Trump tape, pre-debate national poll coming out in less than 30 minutes.Eyes emoji https://t.co/7Kan1DF6D5
Big news alert coming.Big news alert coming.
Democratic trackers, reviewing their months of tape of Republicans grudgingly supporting Trump. pic.twitter.com/XRgg85vcN6Democratic trackers, reviewing their months of tape of Republicans grudgingly supporting Trump. pic.twitter.com/XRgg85vcN6
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Ryan says he won't defend Trump, hints Clinton will winRyan says he won't defend Trump, hints Clinton will win
In a conference with Republican members of Congress, House speaker Paul Ryan has said he won’t defend Donald Trump in the 29 days until the election (he hadn’t been working overtime to do so), and he hinted that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency.In a conference with Republican members of Congress, House speaker Paul Ryan has said he won’t defend Donald Trump in the 29 days until the election (he hadn’t been working overtime to do so), and he hinted that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency.
Ryan told members that they should do with regard to Trump whatever they needed to to win their own races. His focus, he said, was on maintaining a House majority to block a president Clinton.Ryan told members that they should do with regard to Trump whatever they needed to to win their own races. His focus, he said, was on maintaining a House majority to block a president Clinton.
BREAKING: Speaker Ryan tells House GOP he will focus on ‘making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check’BREAKING: Speaker Ryan tells House GOP he will focus on ‘making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check’
Clinton’s Twitter responded immediately to the news, pointing out that Ryan has not un-endorsed the presidential nominee:Clinton’s Twitter responded immediately to the news, pointing out that Ryan has not un-endorsed the presidential nominee:
Ryan is still endorsing Trump. https://t.co/L30EZvUbm0Ryan is still endorsing Trump. https://t.co/L30EZvUbm0
BREAKING: @SpeakerRyan tells House Rs he is NOT rescinding @realDonaldTrump endorsement for now, but won't campaign with him eitherBREAKING: @SpeakerRyan tells House Rs he is NOT rescinding @realDonaldTrump endorsement for now, but won't campaign with him either
King Solomon would be proud... https://t.co/uZDsUdDVMwKing Solomon would be proud... https://t.co/uZDsUdDVMw
Memo to Congressional Republicans: The doors of hell are locked on the inside.Memo to Congressional Republicans: The doors of hell are locked on the inside.
Ryan does seem open to charges of wishy-washiness on the Trump question. He has not campaigned with Trump; their first event together, scheduled for Friday, fell apart with the emergence of the Trump hot mic video. But Ryan has endorsed Trump and repeatedly voiced optimism about their ability to work together.Ryan does seem open to charges of wishy-washiness on the Trump question. He has not campaigned with Trump; their first event together, scheduled for Friday, fell apart with the emergence of the Trump hot mic video. But Ryan has endorsed Trump and repeatedly voiced optimism about their ability to work together.
Politico reported this morning that Ryan has gone as far as discussing revoking his Trump endorsement, an action dozens of his colleagues have taken. But not Ryan – not yet.Politico reported this morning that Ryan has gone as far as discussing revoking his Trump endorsement, an action dozens of his colleagues have taken. But not Ryan – not yet.
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Trump tried to arrange showdown between women and Bill Clinton
After a splashy media appearance prior to the debate in which Donald Trump appeared with accusers of Bill Clinton, the plan was to have the women file in with Trump’s family, so they would come face-to-face with Clinton on national TV, the Washington Post reports. But the debate commission intervened:
Donald Trump’s campaign sought to intimidate Hillary Clinton and embarrass her husband by seating women who have accused former president Bill Clinton of sexual abuse in the Trump family’s box at the presidential debate here Sunday night, according to four people involved in the discussions.
The campaign’s plan, which was closely held and unknown to several of Trump’s top aides, was thwarted just minutes before it could be executed when officials with the Commission on Presidential Debates intervened. The commission officials warned that, if the Trump campaign tried to seat the accusers in the elevated family box, security officers would remove the women, according to the people involved, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the discussions were confidential.
The gambit to give Bill Clinton’s accusers prime seats was devised by Trump campaign chief executive Stephen K. Bannon and Jared Kushner, the candidate’s son-in-law, and approved personally by Trump. The four women — three of whom have alleged Bill Clinton sexually assaulted or harassed them years ago — were to walk in the debate hall at the same time as the 42nd president and confront him in front of a national television audience.
Read the full piece here.
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“Charisma Ken” Bone strikes again:
Ken Bone says he wore the red sweater as a plan B to the debate because he “split the seat of my pants wide open” https://t.co/H9eL2wi5as
If you watched the debate last night you may have noticed a question near the end about energy policy posed by Mr Bone, above. The Internet thought he was cute and made of him a meme, and now he’s on CNN.
What do you think? Are we allowed this moment of KenBoneReprieve? Or are we hiding?
We tweet about Ken Bone because we can't handle what's really happening.
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Nebraska governor nixes Pence fundraiser
The governor of Nebraska, Pete Ricketts, has nixed a fundraiser with Mike Pence scheduled for Tuesday, Politico reports.
Ricketts is part of an influential clan of Republican mega-donors headed up by his father, Ameritrade founder Joe Ricketts, that has been extremely wary of Donald Trump this election cycle, although they tossed $1m Trump’s way last month.
In the primaries the family gave millions to outside groups supporting Wisconsin governor Scott Walker and then funded efforts to block Trump.
Trump did not like that:
I hear the Rickets family, who own the Chicago Cubs, are secretly spending $'s against me. They better be careful, they have a lot to hide!
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A journalist encountered a survivor of abuse weeping in a bathroom at the debate and interviewed her about why she was crying:
A young survivor asked Omarosa to defend Trump's tape and his embrace of rape culture. The response upset her deeply. Everyone, watch this. https://t.co/OGReVGqGGR
came in restroom to get ready for news. Young woman crying. She was not expecting media but shared... #Debates2016 pic.twitter.com/4ZZqMjlBTy
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Trump camp dismisses jail threat for Clinton as mere "quip"
Donald Trump’s campaign manager is walking back the Republican candidate’s threat during presidential debate to throw Hillary Clinton in jail if he is elected, the AP reports:
Kellyanne Conway said Monday that such a decision isn’t up to Trump. She said Trump’s threat “was a quip.”
Trump made the threat in Sunday’s debate, after Clinton said it’s good that someone with Trump’s temperament isn’t president. Trump responded: “Because you’d be in jail.”
Conway, speaking on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” also stopped short of confirming Trump’s vow to appoint a special prosecutor to look into Clinton’s email practices if he becomes president.
Conway said Trump was “channeling the frustration of thousands of voters he hears every day.”
Why does it seem so frequently to take so many people to explain what Trump means by what Trump says?
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Do you think this is too blue for the blog?
Now I know why Trump took that married woman to a furniture store ... pic.twitter.com/yqX2RuInOe
(h/t @bencjacobs)
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The Cincinnati, Ohio, paper has a pretty great write-up of watching last night’s debate at home with the chairman of the state Republican party, who has not been particularly enjoying the election, and the chairman’s wife, who is no Democrat but won’t allow any Trump signs in their yard:
Kate leans forward, her mouth tight, her eyes wide. “It’s locker room talk,” Trump insists. A hint of a wry smile forms. “No, I have not” acted in the way described, Trump says. Kate chuckles ruefully.
One of Matt and Kate’s dogs vomits.
“Trump was so bad, he made the dog throw up,” Kate calls, dashing for the paper towels.
You can’t make this stuff up.
Read the full piece here. (h/t: @bencjacobs)
The single most-repeated tidbit of electoral college trivia may be that no Republican has won the White House without winning Ohio, where Clinton has just passed Trump, sort of (it’s such a tight race), in the polling averages:
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Pro athletes: that's not locker room talk
Nicole Puglise
Current and former professional athletes have spoken out after Donald Trump defended his comments on using fame to grope women without their consent as “locker room” talk during Sunday’s presidential debate, reports the Guardian’s Nicole Puglise:
“As an athlete, I’ve been in locker rooms my entire adult life and uh, that’s not locker room talk,” Oakland Athletics pitcher Sean Doolittle wrote on Twitter. Many others echoed his sentiments.
Clippers coach Doc Rivers, when asked by TMZ about Trump’s comments, quipped : “That’s a new locker room for me.”
Please stop saying "locker room talk"
Locker room?
Just for reference. I work in a locker room (every day)... that is not locker room talk. Just so you know...
Read the full piece here:
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Pence: 'absolutely false' he considered dropping out
Donald Trump’s running mate Mike Pence has forcefully batted down speculation that he considered dropping from the Republican ticket after video emerged on Friday of Trump bragging about touching women without their consent.
Pence, a family values Christian and a discriminatory sexual moralist, said at the weekend that he was “offended” by Trump’s remarks about grabbing “pussy”, that he did not “condone” the remarks and could not defend them – which last bit rang quite true.
But Pence told CNN this morning that being tapped by Trump had been “the greatest honor of my life”.
He also said he was nominated by his party, which is technically true:
It’s absolutely false to suggest that at any point in time we considered dropping off this ticket. It’s the greatest honor of my life, to have been nominated by my party to be the next vice president of the United States of America.
"It's absolutely false" -- Mike Pence on reports he considered dropping out. Watch live: https://t.co/Tk64moV9b1 https://t.co/yLa72UOaEE
Update for the record: Pence remains horrified and disgusted by Bill Clinton:
So Pence followed Trump in going there via CNN pic.twitter.com/RBfCPfuSZa
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Hello and welcome to our live-wire coverage of the 2016 race for the White House. Hillary Clinton is to make stops in Detroit, Michigan, and in Columbus, Ohio, today, while Donald Trump will be in Ambridge and Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania.
Other campaign trail events include Clinton running mate Tim Kaine appearing with musician Dave Matthews in the Denver Metro area; Chelsea Clinton campaigning in Racine, Wisconsin, and Rochester, Minnesota; and Trump running mate Mike Pence in Charlotte and Fayetteville, North Carolina.
Did you watch the debate? Clinton spoke with reporters aboard her plane afterward:
‘Nothing surprises me about him’
Our news coverage of the big night is here:
Pence not dropping out – report
A cancellation by Trump running mate Mike Pence of a fundraising event on Monday, and Trump’s announcement onstage that he had not spoken with and totally disagreed with Pence about their Syria policy vis-à-vis Russia, and Trump’s coarse hot mic video, and the exodus of Republicans from the Trump cause, fuelled speculation that perhaps Pence would ditch Trump too.
Pence is staying, reports CNN:
JUST IN: A top Pence aide confirms to @tomlobianco that tweet after debate means he is staying on the ticket through the election.
Clinton ad: ‘Locker room talk’
A new ad from the Clinton campaign hits Trump for denying that he had described on a hot mic tape touching women without their consent. “I don’t think you understood what was said,” Trump says, flatly:
Read Lucia Graves this morning for analysis:
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