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| Hillary Clinton opens up 11-point lead in pre-debate poll – campaign live | Hillary Clinton opens up 11-point lead in pre-debate poll – campaign live |
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| My wife? Oh yeah, she’s voting for Trump, too. | |
| Only 33% of husbands say their wife is voting for Hillary Clinton, but 45% of wives say they're voting for Hillary Clinton. https://t.co/cvcqN4vcRP | |
| In the poll, 40% of married women said they’d support Trump. Does that seem high to you? Maybe it is – but it’s still really bad compared with past performances of Republican candidates among married women, a group Mitt Romney won in 2012 with a 53% majority. | |
| In 2008, unmarried women went 70-29 for Barack Obama, but married women went 50-47 for John McCain. | |
| So for a Republican to be losing married women – it could indicate a certain weakness in Trump’s candidacy. | |
| Married WOMEN who say they are voting for Hillary Clinton: 45%. Married MEN who think their SPOUSE is voting for Hillary Clinton: 33% pic.twitter.com/8mSotUSnWl | |
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| New Clinton ads feature Republicans crossing party lines | |
| At a moment when the presidential race looks very good for Clinton, and Democrats are talking anew about making inroads in Congress, the Clinton campaign releases at least three (that we’ve seen so far) new ads featuring Republicans – politicos, veterans, parents – who say they will vote for Clinton and explain why: | |
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| Here’s further on the revolt by some Republicans at the leadership’s perceived abandonment of the presidential nominee, via AP: | |
| Conservative House Republicans have complained to House Speaker Paul Ryan that he and other party leaders are being too negative about presidential candidate Donald Trump. | |
| The comments came in a conference call Monday. Two people involved in the call said California Rep. Dana Rohrabacher called Republican leaders “cowards” and said they must stop their defeatist attitude about Trump’s chances. | |
| Another person involved in the call said the head of the Republicans campaign organization, Greg Walden of Oregon, noted that Trump’s poll numbers have been falling since his first debate with Hillary Clinton. The person said Walden said he expects even more erosion in Trump’s numbers now. | |
| The people on the call spoke on condition of anonymity because the call was private. | |
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| Snubbed at the debate: Black Lives Matter | |
| Steven W Thrasher | |
| On Sunday night, I wanted Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump to delve into real talk about race in America. After all, they debated at Washington University in St Louis, just about 20 miles from the Canfield Apartments where Michael Brown was killed. | |
| It didn’t happen. | |
| There was no substantive conversation on race (or on much of anything, really). Racism and police killings were never addressed directly. Black Lives Matter was outrageously never brought up. An African American woman asked the first question on presidential behavior, and a brother asked a pabulum “all lives matter”-style question about each candidate’s ability to lead all people. | |
| Trump seemed to think that all black and Hispanic people live in the “inner city”, which have mostly been gentrified by white people. But he was right when he said black and hispanic Americans are “living in hell”. However, it’s a hell caused by 2016’s sorry political process in general and by Trump in particular. Muslims, queers, women, immigrants and the poor are also stuck in in this American Hades. | |
| Read the full piece here: | |
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| Note: we’ve deleted a block about an email from the purported John Podesta trove released by Wikileaks last week. The email expressed fear that Republicans would nominate someone other than Trump. But it was not sent by Podesta, as the blog block may have suggested. It came from a former aide with only a sideline voice in the campaign. Apologies for the confusion. | |
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| Ryan not conceding Clinton win, his office advises | |
| House speaker Paul Ryan’s office has nudged back at reports that he has effectively conceded that Hillary Clinton will win the presidential race. | |
| He’s not conceding that Hillary Clinton will be the next president, AP reports hearing from the speaker’s office. | |
| Ryan told members of Congress on a conference call this morning that he would be spending “his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress,” according to people on the call. | |
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| Trump campaign: 'nothing's changed' | Trump campaign: 'nothing's changed' |
| Trump spokesman Jason Miller echoes the candidate himself: we don’t need elected Republicans anyway, we have the people behind us. | Trump spokesman Jason Miller echoes the candidate himself: we don’t need elected Republicans anyway, we have the people behind us. |
| Re: today's Congressional call: Nothing's changed. Mr. Trump’s campaign has always been powered by a grassroots movement, not Washington. | Re: today's Congressional call: Nothing's changed. Mr. Trump’s campaign has always been powered by a grassroots movement, not Washington. |
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| Buffett slams Trump on taxes | Buffett slams Trump on taxes |
| Actual billionaire and actual philanthropist Warren Buffett has hit back at Donald Trump after Trump, at the debate last night, defended his (Trump’s) practice of carrying forward huge personal income losses to avoid paying future federal income taxes. | Actual billionaire and actual philanthropist Warren Buffett has hit back at Donald Trump after Trump, at the debate last night, defended his (Trump’s) practice of carrying forward huge personal income losses to avoid paying future federal income taxes. |
| I’ve never done that, Buffett says in a statement. Also, I gave $2.9bn to charity in 2015. Also, I’m currently under IRS audit but that does not prevent me from releasing tax records. | I’ve never done that, Buffett says in a statement. Also, I gave $2.9bn to charity in 2015. Also, I’m currently under IRS audit but that does not prevent me from releasing tax records. |
| New: Statement from Warren Buffett firing back at Trump on his tax returns: pic.twitter.com/bvolw6TpUo | New: Statement from Warren Buffett firing back at Trump on his tax returns: pic.twitter.com/bvolw6TpUo |
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| Republican revolt over notion of abandoning Trump – report | Republican revolt over notion of abandoning Trump – report |
| We have reports now of Republican fury after the conference call with speaker Paul Ryan in which he said he wouldn’t defend Trump and just wanted to prevent giving Hillary Clinton a blank check. Here’s the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin: | We have reports now of Republican fury after the conference call with speaker Paul Ryan in which he said he wouldn’t defend Trump and just wanted to prevent giving Hillary Clinton a blank check. Here’s the New York Times’ Jonathan Martin: |
| House conservatives are FURIOUS. Carter, McClintock, Long and especially Dana R angrily tell Rs they can't abandon Trump. LINK tk shortly | House conservatives are FURIOUS. Carter, McClintock, Long and especially Dana R angrily tell Rs they can't abandon Trump. LINK tk shortly |
| It seems like people are always saying the Republican party is falling apart / about to fall apart/ threatening to fall apart etc. But an open split with the presidential nominee that causes further splits between the leadership and rank-and-file as well as splits in the rank-and-file possibly culminating in historic losses up-and-down the ballot... well we’re getting ahead of ourselves aren’t we. | It seems like people are always saying the Republican party is falling apart / about to fall apart/ threatening to fall apart etc. But an open split with the presidential nominee that causes further splits between the leadership and rank-and-file as well as splits in the rank-and-file possibly culminating in historic losses up-and-down the ballot... well we’re getting ahead of ourselves aren’t we. |
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| Barack Obama: Clinton went high | Barack Obama: Clinton went high |
| Just like Michelle says, when they go low, we go high. @HillaryClinton went high and showed why she'll be a POTUS for all Americans. | Just like Michelle says, when they go low, we go high. @HillaryClinton went high and showed why she'll be a POTUS for all Americans. |
| After Trump listed accusations of assault against Bill Clinton at the debate last night, Hillary Clinton quoted a line from Michelle Obama in her speech at the DNC convention (the first lady has also used the line on the stump), which the Clinton campaign also tweeted before the debate: | After Trump listed accusations of assault against Bill Clinton at the debate last night, Hillary Clinton quoted a line from Michelle Obama in her speech at the DNC convention (the first lady has also used the line on the stump), which the Clinton campaign also tweeted before the debate: |
| Remember. #Debate pic.twitter.com/rlMbTt5WwY | Remember. #Debate pic.twitter.com/rlMbTt5WwY |
| At the debate Trump replied to Clinton by saying that Michelle Obama had made nasty ads against Clinton in the 2008 campaign. Fact check: wrong-o: | At the debate Trump replied to Clinton by saying that Michelle Obama had made nasty ads against Clinton in the 2008 campaign. Fact check: wrong-o: |
| Just for record, there were no ads in which @MichelleObama attacked @HillaryClinton. I know. I was there. #debates | Just for record, there were no ads in which @MichelleObama attacked @HillaryClinton. I know. I was there. #debates |
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| Reactions to Clinton landslide poll | Reactions to Clinton landslide poll |
| holy shit https://t.co/QZDrOLe4NH | holy shit https://t.co/QZDrOLe4NH |
| LOL https://t.co/OHFACv8KNF | LOL https://t.co/OHFACv8KNF |
| When was the last 14 point gap? https://t.co/ZegCU6GwWc | When was the last 14 point gap? https://t.co/ZegCU6GwWc |
| 🚨 https://t.co/bNGpqVEK5C | 🚨 https://t.co/bNGpqVEK5C |
| Jesus https://t.co/ACGgMrHO02 | Jesus https://t.co/ACGgMrHO02 |
| Should point out that the NBC/WSJ poll used a pretty small sample size, and has generally had good numbers for Clinton. But, yeah... | Should point out that the NBC/WSJ poll used a pretty small sample size, and has generally had good numbers for Clinton. But, yeah... |
| Live look at the Clinton campaign... pic.twitter.com/bx0KOuUwSq | Live look at the Clinton campaign... pic.twitter.com/bx0KOuUwSq |
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| Surely it couldn’t get worse for Trump? | Surely it couldn’t get worse for Trump? |
| Reminder: This poll was taken AFTER Friday news but before last night's debate. We also will be releasing results *after* the debate | Reminder: This poll was taken AFTER Friday news but before last night's debate. We also will be releasing results *after* the debate |
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| Clinton up 11 in NBC News poll of four-way race | Clinton up 11 in NBC News poll of four-way race |
| In a national poll conducted after the emergence of the Trump hot mic tapes but before the debate, Clinton led Trump by 11 points in a four-way race. | In a national poll conducted after the emergence of the Trump hot mic tapes but before the debate, Clinton led Trump by 11 points in a four-way race. |
| New natl NBC/WSJ poll (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 46Trump 35Johnson 9Stein 2Was Clinton +6 in Sept(Oct 8-9, LVs) | New natl NBC/WSJ poll (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 46Trump 35Johnson 9Stein 2Was Clinton +6 in Sept(Oct 8-9, LVs) |
| Clinton led by 14 points in a two-way race. | Clinton led by 14 points in a two-way race. |
| Two-way in new natl NBC/WSJ (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 52Trump 38Was Clinton +7 in SeptOct 8-9, LVs) | Two-way in new natl NBC/WSJ (conducted after Fri news but before debate)HRC 52Trump 38Was Clinton +7 in SeptOct 8-9, LVs) |
| And Republicans in Congress took a beating: | And Republicans in Congress took a beating: |
| Congressional preference in new NBC/WSJ: D+7 -- 49%-42%That is the highest Dem advantage in the NBC/WSJ poll since Oct '13 (gvt shutdown) | Congressional preference in new NBC/WSJ: D+7 -- 49%-42%That is the highest Dem advantage in the NBC/WSJ poll since Oct '13 (gvt shutdown) |
| The only other time we've seen a higher Dem advantage in the congressional preferene was in Oct. 2009 https://t.co/rCoRBcaIzo | The only other time we've seen a higher Dem advantage in the congressional preferene was in Oct. 2009 https://t.co/rCoRBcaIzo |
| October 2009 was still the Obama honeymoon. | October 2009 was still the Obama honeymoon. |
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| Trust the instruments... | Trust the instruments... |
| Best color so far, per an R on call. Walden said election was like landing plane in h'cane: "You've got to trust the instruments."Polling. | Best color so far, per an R on call. Walden said election was like landing plane in h'cane: "You've got to trust the instruments."Polling. |
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| Immigration = all the prizes. This year at least. | Immigration = all the prizes. This year at least. |
| Six Americans won the Nobel prize this year in various sciences. ALL of them immigrants. | Six Americans won the Nobel prize this year in various sciences. ALL of them immigrants. |
| 💪🏼🇺🇸 https://t.co/VE399g2gyZ | 💪🏼🇺🇸 https://t.co/VE399g2gyZ |
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| Ryan spokeswoman: 'there is no update in his position' | Ryan spokeswoman: 'there is no update in his position' |
| Ben Jacobs | Ben Jacobs |
| “The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” a spokeswoman for House speaker Paul Ryan tells the Guardian. | “The speaker is going to spend the next month focused entirely on protecting our congressional majorities,” a spokeswoman for House speaker Paul Ryan tells the Guardian. |
| On whether he still endorses Trump: “There is no update in his position at this time.” | On whether he still endorses Trump: “There is no update in his position at this time.” |
| According to someone on the call: | According to someone on the call: |
| The speaker told members, “you all need to do what’s best for you in your district.” | The speaker told members, “you all need to do what’s best for you in your district.” |
| He said he will not defend Trump or campaign with him for the next thirty days. | He said he will not defend Trump or campaign with him for the next thirty days. |
| He will spend his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress. | He will spend his entire energy making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check with a Democrat-controlled Congress. |
| So much for the idea that Trump stopped the bleeding last night https://t.co/DEYdpuqGM6 | So much for the idea that Trump stopped the bleeding last night https://t.co/DEYdpuqGM6 |
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| Ouch. Huma Abedin bestie and Bill Clinton aide / Clinton foundation operative Doug Band purportedly writes, in the trove of purported John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks, that Chelsea Clinton was acting “like a spoiled brat kid”: | Ouch. Huma Abedin bestie and Bill Clinton aide / Clinton foundation operative Doug Band purportedly writes, in the trove of purported John Podesta emails released by Wikileaks, that Chelsea Clinton was acting “like a spoiled brat kid”: |
| In new hacked emails dump, Doug Band vents about Chelsea Clinton. pic.twitter.com/oy1e6JwBMr | In new hacked emails dump, Doug Band vents about Chelsea Clinton. pic.twitter.com/oy1e6JwBMr |
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| Don’t go away! Upcoming various news teases: | Don’t go away! Upcoming various news teases: |
| NBC/WSJ has a post-Trump tape, pre-debate national poll coming out in less than 30 minutes.Eyes emoji https://t.co/7Kan1DF6D5 | NBC/WSJ has a post-Trump tape, pre-debate national poll coming out in less than 30 minutes.Eyes emoji https://t.co/7Kan1DF6D5 |
| Big news alert coming. | Big news alert coming. |
| Democratic trackers, reviewing their months of tape of Republicans grudgingly supporting Trump. pic.twitter.com/XRgg85vcN6 | Democratic trackers, reviewing their months of tape of Republicans grudgingly supporting Trump. pic.twitter.com/XRgg85vcN6 |
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| Ryan says he won't defend Trump, hints Clinton will win | Ryan says he won't defend Trump, hints Clinton will win |
| In a conference with Republican members of Congress, House speaker Paul Ryan has said he won’t defend Donald Trump in the 29 days until the election (he hadn’t been working overtime to do so), and he hinted that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency. | In a conference with Republican members of Congress, House speaker Paul Ryan has said he won’t defend Donald Trump in the 29 days until the election (he hadn’t been working overtime to do so), and he hinted that Hillary Clinton would win the presidency. |
| Ryan told members that they should do with regard to Trump whatever they needed to to win their own races. His focus, he said, was on maintaining a House majority to block a president Clinton. | Ryan told members that they should do with regard to Trump whatever they needed to to win their own races. His focus, he said, was on maintaining a House majority to block a president Clinton. |
| BREAKING: Speaker Ryan tells House GOP he will focus on ‘making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check’ | BREAKING: Speaker Ryan tells House GOP he will focus on ‘making sure that Hillary Clinton does not get a blank check’ |
| Clinton’s Twitter responded immediately to the news, pointing out that Ryan has not un-endorsed the presidential nominee: | Clinton’s Twitter responded immediately to the news, pointing out that Ryan has not un-endorsed the presidential nominee: |
| Ryan is still endorsing Trump. https://t.co/L30EZvUbm0 | Ryan is still endorsing Trump. https://t.co/L30EZvUbm0 |
| BREAKING: @SpeakerRyan tells House Rs he is NOT rescinding @realDonaldTrump endorsement for now, but won't campaign with him either | BREAKING: @SpeakerRyan tells House Rs he is NOT rescinding @realDonaldTrump endorsement for now, but won't campaign with him either |
| King Solomon would be proud... https://t.co/uZDsUdDVMw | King Solomon would be proud... https://t.co/uZDsUdDVMw |
| Memo to Congressional Republicans: The doors of hell are locked on the inside. | Memo to Congressional Republicans: The doors of hell are locked on the inside. |
| Ryan does seem open to charges of wishy-washiness on the Trump question. He has not campaigned with Trump; their first event together, scheduled for Friday, fell apart with the emergence of the Trump hot mic video. But Ryan has endorsed Trump and repeatedly voiced optimism about their ability to work together. | Ryan does seem open to charges of wishy-washiness on the Trump question. He has not campaigned with Trump; their first event together, scheduled for Friday, fell apart with the emergence of the Trump hot mic video. But Ryan has endorsed Trump and repeatedly voiced optimism about their ability to work together. |
| Politico reported this morning that Ryan has gone as far as discussing revoking his Trump endorsement, an action dozens of his colleagues have taken. But not Ryan – not yet. | Politico reported this morning that Ryan has gone as far as discussing revoking his Trump endorsement, an action dozens of his colleagues have taken. But not Ryan – not yet. |
| Updated | Updated |
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