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| Turnbull and Abbott trade barbs on guns-for-votes issue – as it happened | |
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| Night time politics | |
| That’s enough for tonight. Here is a string of magnificence from Michael Bowers to give you a flavour of the day. Thanks to Paul Karp, Gareth Hutchens, Ben Doherty and Katharine Murphy for their input. | |
| See you in two weeks time when parliament resumes on 7 November. | |
| Go well. | |
| Scenes from a personal explanation #DealOrNoDeal @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive pic.twitter.com/BFAtVHTAtT | |
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| Does the member claim to have been misrepresented? | Does the member claim to have been misrepresented? |
| Most egregiously Mr Speaker. | Most egregiously Mr Speaker. |
| Julie Bishop trains her death stare at Tony Abbott. | Julie Bishop trains her death stare at Tony Abbott. |
| 5.47am BST | 5.47am BST |
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| Turnbull insists the Justice Minister acted with the full knowledge of PMO when brokering deal on Alder shotguns. https://t.co/7Ioso12b2p | Turnbull insists the Justice Minister acted with the full knowledge of PMO when brokering deal on Alder shotguns. https://t.co/7Ioso12b2p |
| 5.46am BST | 5.46am BST |
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| Abbott says claims he 'connived' to broker a deal on shotgun imports are 'utterly false'. https://t.co/5gJ6jS6PkH | Abbott says claims he 'connived' to broker a deal on shotgun imports are 'utterly false'. https://t.co/5gJ6jS6PkH |
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| So to recap, Labor asked a series of detailed questions of the prime minister, immigration minister and justice minister relating to the Adler gun. | So to recap, Labor asked a series of detailed questions of the prime minister, immigration minister and justice minister relating to the Adler gun. |
| In the process of answering, Malcolm Turnbull, Peter Dutton and Michael Keenan confirmed that Leyonhjelm was offered a sunset clause on an import ban on Adler shotgun in return for supporting a migration bill. | In the process of answering, Malcolm Turnbull, Peter Dutton and Michael Keenan confirmed that Leyonhjelm was offered a sunset clause on an import ban on Adler shotgun in return for supporting a migration bill. |
| Tony Abbott then rose to make a personal explanation, which is a process that allows members to claim they were misrepresented. | Tony Abbott then rose to make a personal explanation, which is a process that allows members to claim they were misrepresented. |
| Malcolm Turnbull, Kelly O’Dwyer, foreign minister Julie Bishop, treasurer Scott Morrison and environment energy minister Josh Frydenberg – who had been walking out – stopped to listen to the answer. | Malcolm Turnbull, Kelly O’Dwyer, foreign minister Julie Bishop, treasurer Scott Morrison and environment energy minister Josh Frydenberg – who had been walking out – stopped to listen to the answer. |
| PM Turnbull halts on his way out as Tony Abbott makes a personal explanation about the Adler shotgun @gabriellechan pic.twitter.com/yzyDVuwGfT | PM Turnbull halts on his way out as Tony Abbott makes a personal explanation about the Adler shotgun @gabriellechan pic.twitter.com/yzyDVuwGfT |
| Abbott said there was no deal and quotes security advice which said the Adler should be banned. | Abbott said there was no deal and quotes security advice which said the Adler should be banned. |
| This leaves us at a stalemate. They said-he said. | This leaves us at a stalemate. They said-he said. |
| If you have Sky, it might be worth tuning into Peta Credlin tonight. | If you have Sky, it might be worth tuning into Peta Credlin tonight. |
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| at 5.46am BST | at 5.46am BST |
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| The point to make about Abbott’s note is that just because there were security grounds for Abbott’s import ban, this does not mean a deal was not done between Keenan-Dutton and Leyonhjelm. The two factors are not mutually exclusive. | The point to make about Abbott’s note is that just because there were security grounds for Abbott’s import ban, this does not mean a deal was not done between Keenan-Dutton and Leyonhjelm. The two factors are not mutually exclusive. |
| In fact, if there were such strong grounds for stopping the Adler imports, then it made no sense to put a sunset clause on it. | In fact, if there were such strong grounds for stopping the Adler imports, then it made no sense to put a sunset clause on it. |
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| Tony Abbott quotes his advisor’s note on security. It said of the Adler shotgun: | Tony Abbott quotes his advisor’s note on security. It said of the Adler shotgun: |
| Abbott said had order gone ahead it would have more than doubled the number of Adlers. | Abbott said had order gone ahead it would have more than doubled the number of Adlers. |
| An old shotgun had been used in the Lindt seige and shut down the city, he says. | An old shotgun had been used in the Lindt seige and shut down the city, he says. |
| The advisor’s note relates to the security reasons for keeping the guns off the streets. | The advisor’s note relates to the security reasons for keeping the guns off the streets. |
| The note said the Adler would have gone into the same category as an air rifle. | The note said the Adler would have gone into the same category as an air rifle. |
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| He says any Leyonhjelm deal for a vote is false. | He says any Leyonhjelm deal for a vote is false. |
| Essentially calling his former ministers liars. | Essentially calling his former ministers liars. |
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| OMG Tony Abbott is giving a personal explanation. | OMG Tony Abbott is giving a personal explanation. |
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| Of course the government shut down the Labor motion below. The government gets one more question. Turnbull delivers a firm and fairly defiant answer on his economic plan, looking at the opposition but directed at his backbench. | Of course the government shut down the Labor motion below. The government gets one more question. Turnbull delivers a firm and fairly defiant answer on his economic plan, looking at the opposition but directed at his backbench. |
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