This article is from the source 'guardian' and was first published or seen on . It last changed over 40 days ago and won't be checked again for changes.
You can find the current article at its original source at https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/nov/08/plebiscite-bill-fails-politics-live-penny-wong-george-brandis
The article has changed 18 times. There is an RSS feed of changes available.
Version 13 | Version 14 |
---|---|
Coalition to establish inquiry into section 18C of Racial Discrimination Act – politics live | Coalition to establish inquiry into section 18C of Racial Discrimination Act – politics live |
(35 minutes later) | |
5.20am GMT | |
05:20 | |
The Greens have announced they will move their own amendments to the backpacker tax bill which seeks to tax backpackers at the same rate as Australians. | |
Greens senator Peter Whish-Wilson has been consistent on not wanting change on the tax - as opposed to Labor, which opposed but without stating their alternative position. But without the numbers, the Greens amendment will not pass. | |
So, the Greens will support the crossbench/Labor amendment for a 10.5% backpacker tax. | |
The treasurer Scott Morrison has said if the bill is amended, the government will knock it off in the lower house. | |
Which means it will be status quo. Or will it? | |
Morrison says in the absence of the changes, the default tax will be 32.5% - which was what the Abbott government originally proposed in 2015 (where it all started). | |
Whish-Wilson was claiming the win, no matter what happens. | |
The Greens have led on this issue. We were the first party to oppose the backpacker tax. We were the only one to take a costed policy to the election. We were the ones who discovered legislation was required and that the automatic default is not 32.5%. | |
Now the default position of the tax is complicated. The key thing to remember is that though the Abbott government originally proposed the tax in 2015, this has been argued about ever since. No backpacker legislation has passed the house since then. | |
That means there is no change to the existing position. | |
Which means some backpackers will continue to qualify as residents for tax purposes, getting a lesser rate. And some will continue to qualify as non-residents, getting a higher rate. | |
Whish-Wilson: | |
Barnaby Joyce is talking bulldust that a default rate of 32.5% will start on January 1, 2017. The only thing due to come in on January 1 was the Government’s law if their legislation passed both houses of Parliament. If the legislation fails to pass then the status quo remains unchanged, that is some backpackers are treated as residents, and some are not. | |
Tasmanian farmers, at an individual level, have told me they want this bill dead. They will never trust the government again. Barnaby Joyce did not even visit Tasmania during this debate. He has done nothing to fix the mess his government created. | |
4.55am GMT | |
04:55 | |
No props. | |
Labor loses the right to ask a question by using props. | |
4.53am GMT | 4.53am GMT |
04:53 | 04:53 |
Just to keep you going ... the Senate committee report into attorney general George Brandis’ legal direction to the solicitor general Justin Gleeson will be tabled tonight at around 5pm. | |
That was the committee that saw very fiery exchanges between Gleeson and LNP senator Ian Macdonald and in which Gleeson admitted he considered the Brandis direction invalid. Gleeson also revealed he spoke to the opposition shadow attorney general, Mark Dreyfus, during the election campaign – the person who appointed him solicitor general in 2013. | |
You can find the committee website here. The inquiry examines the nature and scope of the consultations prior to the making of the Legal Services Amendment (Solicitor-General Opinions) Direction 2016. | |
This is the direction that led to the stoush that led to Gleeson resigning. His resignation became effective yesterday. | This is the direction that led to the stoush that led to Gleeson resigning. His resignation became effective yesterday. |
Updated | |
at 5.16am GMT | |
4.40am GMT | 4.40am GMT |
04:40 | 04:40 |
4.36am GMT | 4.36am GMT |
04:36 | 04:36 |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.37am GMT | at 4.37am GMT |
4.32am GMT | 4.32am GMT |
04:32 | 04:32 |
Bowers really is enjoying the new Senate photography rules. | Bowers really is enjoying the new Senate photography rules. |
RUOK Senator? | RUOK Senator? |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.38am GMT | at 4.38am GMT |
4.28am GMT | 4.28am GMT |
04:28 | 04:28 |
Paul Karp | Paul Karp |
Malarndirri McCarthy has asked the attorney general, George Brandis, what the government has done to ensure Andrew Robb keeps to rules about lobbying in his new gig at the Landbridge Group. | Malarndirri McCarthy has asked the attorney general, George Brandis, what the government has done to ensure Andrew Robb keeps to rules about lobbying in his new gig at the Landbridge Group. |
Brandis replied that – absent any evidence that Robb hasn’t complied – he’s not really sure what McCarthy is referring to. Robb has already said he understands his obligations and will abide by them. | Brandis replied that – absent any evidence that Robb hasn’t complied – he’s not really sure what McCarthy is referring to. Robb has already said he understands his obligations and will abide by them. |
Don’t seek to besmirch by innuendo an honourable man. | Don’t seek to besmirch by innuendo an honourable man. |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.38am GMT | at 4.38am GMT |
4.26am GMT | 4.26am GMT |
04:26 | 04:26 |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.39am GMT | at 4.39am GMT |
4.24am GMT | 4.24am GMT |
04:24 | 04:24 |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.25am GMT | at 4.25am GMT |
4.23am GMT | 4.23am GMT |
04:23 | 04:23 |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.25am GMT | at 4.25am GMT |
4.18am GMT | 4.18am GMT |
04:18 | 04:18 |
I feel they should be singing ... | I feel they should be singing ... |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.25am GMT | at 4.25am GMT |
4.13am GMT | 4.13am GMT |
04:13 | 04:13 |
I have a power of Bowers to share now ... | I have a power of Bowers to share now ... |
Updated | Updated |
at 4.26am GMT | at 4.26am GMT |
4.12am GMT | 4.12am GMT |
04:12 | 04:12 |
A government question to assistant treasurer Kelly O’Dwyer: Is the Minister aware of any (Labor) threats to improving superannuation balances? | A government question to assistant treasurer Kelly O’Dwyer: Is the Minister aware of any (Labor) threats to improving superannuation balances? |
See Labor superannuation policy announced overnight. | See Labor superannuation policy announced overnight. |