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Presidential debate: Clinton-Trump race tight as hour approaches – election live
Debate live: Clinton and Trump face off in much-anticipated event – updates
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In the house:
Trump: “she talks about solar panels.. we invested in solar panels, that was a disaster... our energy policies are a disaster... you can’t do what you’re looking to do with $20tn in debt... [Obama] has doubled it in almost eight years... seven and a half years to be semi-exact.”
The Trump pool reporter, Time magazine’s Zeke Miller, sends a list of people spotted in the room:
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Mark Cuban (who appears to be seated in the front row)
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Dan Malloy
Clinton: “Donald thinks that climate change is a hoax perpetrated by the Chinese.”
Jesse Jackson
Trump: I did not say that. I did not say that. I did not say that.
Andrew cuomo and Sandra Lee
Clinton just continues.
Reince and Sally Priebus
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Donna Brazile
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Don King
Clinton: 'Donald... rooted for the housing crisis'
Rudy Giuliani in conversation with Sheldon Adelson
Clinton says, “Let’s stop for a second and remember where we were eight years ago.”
Eliot Engel
She says the recession was owing to “tax policies that slashed taxes on Wall Street... in fact Donald was one of the people who rooted for the housing crisis...
Chuck Schumer
Trump: That’s called business, by the way.
Steve Israel
Clinton: 9 million people lost their jobs... The last thing we need to do is to go back to policies that failed us. She cites a nonpartisan tax study saying his plan would create a $5tn debt over ten years.
Mike Flynn
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One of the Baldwin brothers with a Trump button
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Bill de Blasio
Trump is sniffling a lot. He’s on to Nafta. He says “secretary Clinton and others, politicians, should have been doing this for years... what’s happened to our jobs and our economy... we are $20tn, we cannot do it.
Ray Washbourne
Holt: How do you bring back American manufacturing.
Charles Rangel calling out to Don King “welcome home, welcome home, we missed you.”
Trump: Don’t let the companies leave... “You say, fine... if you think you’re going to make... whatever you make and bring them into our country without a tax, you’re wrong.”
Mike Pence sitting up front
Clinton is watching him respectfully, attentively. He’s repetitious.
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Video streams
Trump falls for it. He says his father gave him “a small amount of money” in the 1970s and he built it into buildings. He’s a bit tetchy on the inheritance issue, and on his own brilliant record as a businessman.
Twenty minutes or so to go. Here are live video streams of the action, via Reuters and PBS:
“Let me give you the example of Mexico,” he says, and starts talking about the Vat tax.
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Does he have a sniffle? Is he sick?
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Mona Chalabi
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Donald Trump could have an inherent advantage in this presidential debate purely because his speaking voice is a couple of notes lower than his opponent Hillary Clinton’s. Don’t take my word for it (you probably wouldn’t if I was reading this aloud) - this is based on a study into human voice pitch research conducted in 2012. The methodology couldn’t be more relevant to this debate.
Clinton: 'Donald is very fortunate in his life'
In the study, 10 women and 10 men were recorded saying the phrase “I urge you to vote for me this November” - a sentence that’s about elections and yet is politically neutral. The researchers then manipulated the sounds of the recordings to be lower or higher and played them to a bunch of men and women who were asked which hypothetical candidate they’d vote for. They found that male and female leaders with lower-pitched voices (ie those that are more stereotypically masculine) were preferred by both men and women.
“Donald is very fortunate in his life, and that’s all to his benefit... he borrowed $14m from his father, he really believes the more you help wealthy people, the better off you’ll be.”
Here’s how the authors interpreted the results: “This bias could be a consequence of lower-pitched female voices being perceived as more competent, stronger, and more trustworthy … [and] in the case of men’s voices, men with lower-pitched voices are larger, stronger, and more aggressive.”
Clinton contrasts her father’s experience dying drapery fabrics.
The findings can be corroborated by any woman who has ever spoken in a meeting.
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Trump on child care: 'I think Hillary and I agree'
We’ve asked for your favorite music to fact-check to. (Is this turning into your favorite Ramones to fact-check to? Hampstead’s not so far from Forest Hills...)
Now Trump. “Our jobs are fleeing the country,” he says. “They’re going to Mexico. You look at what China is doing... they’re using our country as a piggy bank to rebuild China.”
Here’s a winner:
He returns to Mexico. They’re building plants. “With the United States, not so much... thousands of jobs...
.@TeeMcSee if you're going to listen to the Ramones when you fact check, maybe Bonzo goes to Bitberg might work https://t.co/59YkGuB6zT
As far as child care is concerned.. I think Hillary and I agree on that... but we have to stop our jobs from being stolen from us.
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He returns to Mexico. Then he says “I’ll be reducing taxes tremenodously,” and that’s “going to be a job creator.”
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Two minutes is tough for him?
It's debate time
Trade is an important issue,” Clinton says. We are 5% of the world’s population. We have to trade with the other 95%.”
If you’re just joining us – welcome to our live-wire coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2016 general election.
She says, “The kind of plan Donald has put forth would be trickle-down economics, all over again.”
Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are scheduled to take the stage at Hofstra University in Hempstead, New York, at 9pm ET. The debate will last 90 minutes and be moderated by Lester Holt, host of NBC Nightly News. Clinton has won a coin flip and will take the first question.
Then she tries, clumsily, a pseudo-zinger: “I call it Trumped-up trickle down economics.”
The Commission on Presidential Debates has announced three amorphous topics for debate: America’s Direction, Achieving Prosperity and Securing America. So … anything, basically.
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What must the candidates do this evening? In one version of the prevailing punditry, Clinton must avoid feeding voter doubts about her trustworthiness, while Trump must avoid coming across as a massive [redacted]. Sense a double standard? You’re not alone.
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The goal for the candidates, of course, is to capture those voters who have yet to make up their minds, especially those living in swing states like Florida and Ohio and Pennsylvania. Such a voter may not react to the same thing the crowd reacts to, the campaigns react to or, needless to say, the media reacts to. Watch and judge for yourself, America ... and the world.
Let’s begin. Achieving prosperity. Holt frames the question. There’s been six years of jobs growth and increasing incomes.
They’re going to start soon. Both candidates arrive onstage as practiced debaters, though Trump does not have any experience facing just one other person. He participated in a dozen primary-season debates this cycle, while Clinton participated in nine … plus the two dozen she showed up for in 2008.
This question is for Clinton. “Why are you a better choice to create jobs to put $$ in the pockets of American workers?”
Thank you for reading, and please join us in the comments!
Clinton thanks the moderator and crowd. What kind of country will we be, she asks. She says she thinks about her granddaughter, who’s turning two.
Brb getting Oreos.
“I want to invest in you. I want to invest in the future.”
“We also have to make the economy fairer,” she says.
She’s quite poised. She is speaking not quickly. Paid family leave, earned sick days, affordable child care, wealthy pay their fair share.
Finally we tonight are on the stage tonight, Donald Trump and I. Donald it’s good to be with you... you have to judge us, who can shoulder the immense, awesome responsibilities of the presidency...
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Here are the candidates. He’s in a blue tie, she’s in a red pantsuit. So that’s different.
They shake hands. They are both smiling ear-to-ear. 72 teeth between them.
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Candidates take stage
Holt begins. He announces six segments, 15 minutes long. He’ll begin each segment with identical leadoff questions. Each candidate will have two minutes to respond. They’ll go from there.
Here come the candidates.
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Here’s Clinton aide Philippe Reines – best-known among journalists as the state department spokesman who told a reporter to fuck off – playing Trump in a debate prep session:
Go time... we’re within a minute, Holt has just informed the audience.
There are multiple Trumps. But only one Philippe. (h/t @jmpalmieri) pic.twitter.com/I5cY3QW40B
go time. pic.twitter.com/VBYEZpkmLo
Re-upping from before:
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In Clinton mock debate, Philippe Reines wore red tie & did "the cobra" -- a hand gesture Trump often makes, per aide pic.twitter.com/qEgIDzy75u
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Can Trump clear the “adequately competent” bar?
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.@realDonaldTrump will pass the test of being adequately competent & will get a big boost in acceptability. https://t.co/IjwV9chPax #debates pic.twitter.com/PzJT2ToIcP
Clinton won tonight’s coin toss – and will get the first question of the night:
Clinton wins coin toss, gets first question at tonight's debate: https://t.co/xKA6pkSdqH @SunlenSerfaty on #TheLead
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One hour to the opening bell
Here’s one way to look at it:
tonight, we are pretty much sending Hillary Clinton to drill into a giant asteroid & nuke it from the inside before it can destroy the earth
.@MELANIATRUMP on the scene for #debatenight #debates #Debates2016 pic.twitter.com/nsKnUO1Gld
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Hillary Clinton engages in some pre-debate trolling by tweeting footage of the 2011 White House correspondents’ dinner, in which Barack Obama skewered Donald Trump, who attended the dinner and who that year had become the foremost exponent of birther babble.
“Trump was so humiliated by the experience, they say, that it triggered some deep, previously hidden yearning for revenge,” wrote Roxanne Roberts, who was seated nearby, in the Washington Post.
“You didn’t blame Little John or Meat Loaf. You fired Gary Busey.These are the kinds of decisions that would keep me up at night." pic.twitter.com/njW7YAxf5I
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Ninety minutes to go until the candidates take the stage. What’s your favorite fact-checking music?
How’s everyone feeling out there tonight?
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Historic video of Trump, capless and tieless, exiting his vehicle, giving a thumbs up, giving a second, more vigorous thumbs up, and then walking away.
VIDEO: Donald Trump arrives at Hofstra University for #Debatenight.https://t.co/vZT1RazpjT
In Clinton mock debate, Philippe Reines wore red tie & did "the cobra" -- a hand gesture Trump often makes, per aide pic.twitter.com/qEgIDzy75u
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What would you ask the candidates?
What do you want moderator Lester Holt to ask? Tell us in the comments.
Here’s Dan Roberts with his list of 10 awkward debate questions to put Clinton and Trump on the spot:
For Donald Trump
How can you be trusted with the nuclear codes?
Did you support US intervention in Iraq and Libya?
Why would Mexico pay for you to build a wall?
Is there anyone you regret offending?
What evidence do you have against climate change?
For Hillary Clinton:
What single policy should your campaign be known for?
Do you believe in globalisation?
How would your counter-terrorism policy differ from Obama’s?
Why are you so secretive?
How would you reduce income inequality?
Click through for Dan’s analysis of each question:
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Make or break: the defining moments of presidential debates
David Smith
Here’s David Smith writing on watershed moments from presidential debates past:
1980: Carter accused Republican Ronald Reagan of planning to cut Medicare healthcare funding for the elderly. Reagan, who had complained that Carter was misrepresenting his positions on numerous issues, said with a chuckle: “There you go again.” The audience erupted. The duel attracted 80.6 million viewers, the most ever for a presidential debate, according to Nielsen, though Clinton v Trump is expected to shatter that record.
Read the full piece here:
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Take it from a guy who was in Congress for 60 years:
Donald Trump couldn't pour piss out of a boot if the instructions were printed on the heel. Looking forward to this debate.
