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Debate: Clinton delivers poised showing as Trump forced on the defensive – live | |
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Trump says he will 'absolutely' accept outcome of election | |
Trump walks through the spin room. He’s asked, “will you accept the outcome of this election?” | |
“Oh yes, absolutely I will,” he says. | |
From the horse’s mouth. | |
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Top three most-Tweeted debate moments, via the good folks at Twitter: | |
1. Trump says he has “good temperament”2. Trump comments on stop and frisk3. Trump and Clinton exchange over plan for defeating ISIS | |
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Snap reaction: | |
Just ran into Scott Walker who called it a "draw" but said Trump "spent too much time on defense, which really exposed his inexperience" | |
Notice Trump sniffing all the time. Coke user? | |
.@HillaryClinton is tough as nails. She put @realDonaldTrump in his place. Now let's put her in hers: the White House. #DebateNight | |
Donald Trump proved once and for all he cannot change: ignorant, bullying, dishonest -- even worse than I expected and I didn't expect much. | |
Most debates are all about the first 30 minutes. This one was about the last 30 minutes. | |
Trump might have been verge of blowing himself up there but pulled back | |
Clinton clearly won. But I emphasize that I have no idea how people will see it or how it will affect polls. That's just how I saw it. 3/3 | |
Who won tonite's debate?In my focus group, 6 people said Trump and 16 said Clinton. #DebateNightYou can say here: https://t.co/rFZYklEsdr | |
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Amber Jamieson | |
The cast of early 2000s hit sitcom Will & Grace reunited for a special election episode released Monday packed with 2016 campaign jokes - mocking Trump University and joking that voters should support Hillary Clinton because pop star Katy Perry does. | |
A nine-minute mini-episode was put online just an hour before the debate on Monday, although the actors had hinted it was coming earlier today. As Brian Moylan predicted in the Guardian this afternoon, the actors - several of whom are known Clinton backers - are basically just doing the show as a pro-Clinton ad - but at least it’s funny. As always, Karen Walker, the sardonic troublemaker who is the lone Trump supporter, gets all the best lines. | |
“You know Donald is one of my oldest friends. I helped him pick out Melania!” she says. | |
They talk about immigration and Latinos, and Karen, speaking about her maid Rosario (who was revealed as undocumented immigrant during the show), quips: “She owes me, I sent her to college.” | |
“You sent her to Trump University! To study dusting!” says Will. | |
“It’s what they teach,” replies Karen. | |
In the show, Karen had supposedly shot at Rosario, but that just became a comment about gun control. | |
“If Crooked Hillary had her way, I wouldn’t have that gun and I’d have to use my cannon and Rosario would be dead,” said Karen. | |
When Will complains that Trump uses hateful language to talk about people, Karen turns to Grace. | |
“Did you hear what your pussy gay Muslim boyfriend just said?” she asks. | |
Will’s friend Jack stars as the undecided voter who is considering not bothering to cast a ballot in November. | |
“But does my vote even matter? How can one unemployed white fella registered in Pennsylvania make a difference?” he asks. | |
Grace attempts to appeal as Clinton being the first female president. But Jack isn’t convinced, saying he hasn’t heard “the one thing that will convince me to vote for one candidate over the other”. | |
But Will knows exactly what to stay to win over the urban gay Jack. “Katy Perry likes Hillary,” he says. | |
At the end of the “episode”, the words #votehoney appears. Votehoney.com redirects viewers straight to hillaryclinton.com. | |
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It’s over. What do you think? Winner? Loser? Highlights? Lowlights? | |
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Fact check: ICE | |
Alan Yuhas | |
Trump: “I was just endorsed by ICE.” | |
Immigration and Customs Enforcement is a government agency. It does not endorse political candidates. A group of former customs officials endorsed Trump just before the debate. | |
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Last question: will you accept the outcome of the election? | |
Clinton says she will. But she’s asking for support because she believes livelihoods and families depend on it. | |
Trump says he wants to make America great again. | |
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Does Trump have the right temperament to be president? 35% said yes. How about Clinton? 58% said yes. https://t.co/xNSvANQbjA pic.twitter.com/77UcwY0Sj8 | |
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Fact check: the nuclear deal with Iran | |
Alan Yuhas | |
Trump on the Iran nuclear deal: “One of the worst deals ever made by any country in history.” He said $400m in cash was part of that deal – and Clinton was responsible. | |
Clinton had nothing to do with the delivery of $400m to Iran as part of a settlement for a failed arms deal that Tehran’s pre-revolutionary government had made with the US in the 1970s. | |
The State Department under John Kerry has admitted, however, that it wanted to use that money as “leverage” to secure the sailors’ release, although its transfer had been mediated through an international court. The money was delivered as foreign currency because US law bars any transaction in US dollars and sanctions make bank transactions difficult. | |
The US is not giving any of its own money to Iran as part of an international nuclear arms deal meant to prevent the construction of weapons. The deal gradually unfreezes assets that belong to Iran but were frozen under sanctions related to the nation’s nuclear program. Sanctions related to human rights, terrorism and other issues remain in place and still lock Iran out of billions. | |
Trump’s guess of how much Iran will benefit by unfrozen assets is far higher than most experts’ estimates, though not inconceivable. Treasury secretary Jack Lew has put the number at $56bn, and Iranian officials have said $32bn and $100bn. Independent economists have calculated that Iran will free up anything between $30bn to $100bn. Complicating the math are Iran’s debts: it will have to pay off tens of billions to countries such as China. | |
There is no evidence that the brief capture in January of 10 American sailors had any effect on the nuclear deal, which had been finalized five months earlier, although the incident rattled fragile relations between Washington and Tehran. A few days after the sailors were released, United Nations inspectors confirmed that Iran had complied with the deal. | |
What Iran does next remain an open question – subject to inspection by UN officials – and Clinton’s argument in favor of the deal hinges on a degree of good faith that Tehran will comply by the terms of the deal. | |
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Mona Chalabi | |
Donald Trump has questioned Hillary Clinton’s temperament, perhaps because voters are questioning Donald Trump’s temperament. A poll conducted by Monmouth University just last week found that 61% if respondents didn’t think Trump “has the right temperament to be president” while just 39% said the same of Clinton. | |
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Trump says the Iran deal “was one of the first deals ever made by any country in history.” | |
Holt tries to move on. | |
Trump: “I met with Bibi Netanyahu the other day. Believe me, he is not a happy camper. | |
Clinton: “I want to reassure our allies in Japan and South Korea and elsewhere that we have mutual defense treaties and we will honor them... I want to on behalf of myself and I think on behalf of the majority of the American people say that ‘our word is good.’ | |
“There’s no doubt that we have other problems with Iran... and Donald never tells you what he would do.. would he have bombed Iran? | |
“He should tell us what his alternative should be. It’s like his plan to defeat Isis. He says it’s a secret plan, but the only secret is that he has no plan... | |
“Are we going to lead the world with strength in accordance with our values? That’s what I intend to do... we cannot let those who would try to destabilize the world... to be given any opportunities at all.” | |
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Fact check: Nato and a hotel | |
Alan Yuhas | |
Trump has claimed that Nato must turn to a directly anti-terror campaign in the Middle East, and that his urging has already influenced the alliance. | |
But Nato has had a Defense Against Terrorism program since June 2004, almost a full 12 years before Trump called the alliance “obsolete”. In July its member nations decided to increase efforts against Isis, specifically, in Syria and Iraq, as its leaders had discussed for months. Trump was not involved. | |
Trump also claimed that his new Washington DC hotel came in before schedule and under budget. | |
Not quite. Per the AP: | |
A June 2013 press release posted on the Trump Organization’s website announced that the redevelopment of the old post office was “expected to start in 2014 with the hotel opening scheduled in 2016.” A few months later, the Trump Organization announced the expected grand opening of the hotel would happen at the end of 2015. The Trump Organization said in a third statement in 2013 ... completion was expected in late 2015. | |
In 2014, the Trump Organization went back to announcing the hotel would open in mid-2016. In February, in the midst of Trump’s presidential campaign, the organization shifted and announced the hotel was planned to open in September, “almost two years ahead of schedule, which is unheard of for a project of this size and complexity,” Ivanka Trump is quoted as saying. | |
And during a March visit to the site, Donald Trump said, “We’re two years ahead of schedule. We’re going to be opening in September.” | |
The hotel is now only partly open. | |
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Holt moves to the last segment. Do you support the current policy on “first use” of nuclear weapons? It’s a bit of a gotcha question. He’s talking about no first use. | Holt moves to the last segment. Do you support the current policy on “first use” of nuclear weapons? It’s a bit of a gotcha question. He’s talking about no first use. |
Trump blathers about Russia, then says, “I would certainly not do first strike.” | Trump blathers about Russia, then says, “I would certainly not do first strike.” |
He says China should “go into North Korea.” Then he says Iran has power over North Korea. He’s casting an extremely wide net for this answer. | He says China should “go into North Korea.” Then he says Iran has power over North Korea. He’s casting an extremely wide net for this answer. |
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As the candidates debate “securing America” with a particular focus on the threat of Isis and each candidate’s stance on the Iraq war, this chart offers some context: | As the candidates debate “securing America” with a particular focus on the threat of Isis and each candidate’s stance on the Iraq war, this chart offers some context: |
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Clinton quotes Trump as saying “you know if they taunted our sailors, I’d blow them out of the water...” referring to sailors taken captive by Iran. | Clinton quotes Trump as saying “you know if they taunted our sailors, I’d blow them out of the water...” referring to sailors taken captive by Iran. |
Clinton continues on Trump’s temperament: “The worst.. has been about nuclear weapons. He has said repeatedly that he does not care if other countries got nuclear weapons.. | Clinton continues on Trump’s temperament: “The worst.. has been about nuclear weapons. He has said repeatedly that he does not care if other countries got nuclear weapons.. |
His cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling... A man who could be provoked with a tweet should not have his finger anywhere near the button. | His cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling... A man who could be provoked with a tweet should not have his finger anywhere near the button. |
Trump: | Trump: |
That line is getting a little bit old. | That line is getting a little bit old. |
Clinton: | Clinton: |
It’s a good one, though. Well describes the problem. | It’s a good one, though. Well describes the problem. |