This article is from the source 'guardian' and was first published or seen on . It last changed over 40 days ago and won't be checked again for changes.

You can find the current article at its original source at https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2016/oct/19/nationals-call-for-import-of-rapid-fire-adler-with-restrictions-politics-live

The article has changed 17 times. There is an RSS feed of changes available.

Version 14 Version 15
Turnbull backs Brandis's administrative appeals tribunal appointments – politics live WA premier Colin Barnett does not support Adler gun coming into his state – politics live
(35 minutes later)
7.28am BST
07:28
Last week Mel Davey reported on this:
The One Nation leader, senator Pauline Hanson, will visit Norfolk Island next week on a four-day fact-finding mission on the invitation of Norfolk Island People for Democracy, a group opposed to the Australian government’s revoking of the island’s autonomy.
Hanson’s visit on Tuesday will mark the first time a crossbench or opposition senator or MP has been to the island following the Australian parliament’s decision last May to abolish its system of self-governance.
Now Hanson wants to dismiss the island’s administrator Gary Hargrave, a former Howard minister on the grounds of “serious misconduct”
BREAKING: The results of my Norfolk Island fact finding mission. I have written to the PM because the Administrator should be sacked #auspol pic.twitter.com/JtjCUC7tq7
7.05am BST
07:05
Just a couple more things on the Adler.
By putting the gun thing back on the table, David Leyonjhelm has opened up a further issue for Malcolm Turnbull with his Coalition partner, Barnaby Joyce. Not that Joyce has disagreed with Turnbull’s messages. But his National MPs have tried to remind everyone that this is a matter of categorisation of the gun - not the import. Because a number of the shotguns are already in the country. It looks like a Lib-Nat split.
Tony Abbott’s revelation that the sunset clause on the import ban was a result of internal pressure from the National party and presumably some Libs, rather than Leyonhjelm, reinforces the “split” story for the PM. Nationals have confirmed they did push back on Abbott. Whether Keenan plus Dutton independently used the agreed sunset clause to barter with Leyonhjelm (given it was going to happen anyway) or whether Abbott gave permission to do so, we don’t know.
So if the import ban is lifted – as at least some of the Nats would like – it will be painted as a watering down of the gun laws. Even though strictly speaking, it is not. It will also be painted as a win for the Nats over Turnbull.
Enter WA premier Colin Barnett. He has said this:
I’m far from being an expert on guns, but as a matter of policy, I do not support that gun. I saw some footage on television of it being fired; it’s obviously got a rapid-fire capacity. Australia has put in policies to contain gun ownership and use, and I do not support allowing a weapon like that into this state.
If Barnett is going to be a hold-out on the Adler, it may be the best political outcome for Turnbull. It could both fix the wider political issue and his issue with the Nats.
If the states cannot decide on the category – as they are required to do under the National Firearms Agreement – the import ban stays for the time being. This would solve the wider political problem by kicking it off into the long grass. The PM can tell the Nats his hands are tied by the states indecision – that is the condition of the Howard laws.
As an aside, shooters who favour the import of the Adler are privately pretty ropable with Leyonjhelm. He has put the Adler squarely in the middle of a wider political debate, ensuring it will not be discussed in any sort of rational way. But Leyonjhelm wins either way. If the shotgun is permanently banned, he fought the good fight for shooters. If the ban is lifted, it was all because of him.
The art of politics.
Updated
at 7.09am BST
6.20am BST6.20am BST
06:2006:20
The house is sitting until 8pm.The house is sitting until 8pm.
The VET bills are still in the house.The VET bills are still in the house.
6.03am BST6.03am BST
06:0306:03
In an attempt to rein-in rising private health insurance premiums, the health minister, Sussan Ley, has announced reforms aimed at cutting the costs of medical devices and prostheses, writes Mel Davey.In an attempt to rein-in rising private health insurance premiums, the health minister, Sussan Ley, has announced reforms aimed at cutting the costs of medical devices and prostheses, writes Mel Davey.
The high cost prostheses, which includes devices like pacemakers and replacement hips and knees, are currently being passed on to private patients through rising insurance premiums.The high cost prostheses, which includes devices like pacemakers and replacement hips and knees, are currently being passed on to private patients through rising insurance premiums.
5.58am BST5.58am BST
05:5805:58
Wayne Swan v BHP: Part four - the dummy spitWayne Swan v BHP: Part four - the dummy spit
You may remember last week Wayne Swan tore strips off BHP regarding their tax affairs last week.You may remember last week Wayne Swan tore strips off BHP regarding their tax affairs last week.
From our friends at AAP:From our friends at AAP:
Former treasurer Wayne Swan has accused BHP Billiton of a “dummy spit” over criticism of its tax affairs.The mining giant’s chief executive Andrew Mackenzie told a function in London on Monday the “continual questioning of our economic and social contribution” in Australia was “chilling” when compared to countries such as Chile.Mackenzie said the president of Chile, where BHP owns 57.5% of the Escondida copper mine, had recently praised the company’s economic and social contribution.Former treasurer Wayne Swan has accused BHP Billiton of a “dummy spit” over criticism of its tax affairs.The mining giant’s chief executive Andrew Mackenzie told a function in London on Monday the “continual questioning of our economic and social contribution” in Australia was “chilling” when compared to countries such as Chile.Mackenzie said the president of Chile, where BHP owns 57.5% of the Escondida copper mine, had recently praised the company’s economic and social contribution.
But in our home country of Australia where we have contributed hugely to employment, and through taxes and royalties, we still find ourselves blamed for problems that we didn’t cause and the target, if you like, of people who assume that we are the ones trying to avoid tax.But in our home country of Australia where we have contributed hugely to employment, and through taxes and royalties, we still find ourselves blamed for problems that we didn’t cause and the target, if you like, of people who assume that we are the ones trying to avoid tax.
Swan told parliament on Wednesday BHP could not claim to be transparent over its tax affairs “given their failure to clearly outline numerous back payments to the Australian taxation office as a result of tax audits over a decade”.Swan told parliament on Wednesday BHP could not claim to be transparent over its tax affairs “given their failure to clearly outline numerous back payments to the Australian taxation office as a result of tax audits over a decade”.
BHP are like that guest at the hotel. They have rented the penthouse, they have had full room service, but then they run off and leave a bill because they only paid for a standard room.BHP are like that guest at the hotel. They have rented the penthouse, they have had full room service, but then they run off and leave a bill because they only paid for a standard room.
The dummy spit by BHP executives in London last night is yet another example of how out of touch corporates are with ordinary people and why, around the world, many corporates are held in such low regard.The dummy spit by BHP executives in London last night is yet another example of how out of touch corporates are with ordinary people and why, around the world, many corporates are held in such low regard.
UpdatedUpdated
at 6.19am BSTat 6.19am BST
5.48am BST5.48am BST
05:4805:48
Shouting gives way to giggles.Shouting gives way to giggles.
Bowers reports that it was something on the phone that set them off.Bowers reports that it was something on the phone that set them off.
GIFs perhaps?GIFs perhaps?
5.43am BST5.43am BST
05:4305:43
STOP SHOUTING!STOP SHOUTING!
A very shouty #QT @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive https://t.co/oxbNNUVMau pic.twitter.com/9PNAyhIe7YA very shouty #QT @gabriellechan @GuardianAus #politicslive https://t.co/oxbNNUVMau pic.twitter.com/9PNAyhIe7Y
5.40am BST5.40am BST
05:4005:40
Scott Morrison will not buy into Xenophon’s amendments to the ABCC bill, such as nationally consistent payment rules for subcontractors.Scott Morrison will not buy into Xenophon’s amendments to the ABCC bill, such as nationally consistent payment rules for subcontractors.
We are back to the CFMEU.We are back to the CFMEU.
While he does not confirm the government will amend for Xenophon, it sounds like it will.While he does not confirm the government will amend for Xenophon, it sounds like it will.
Given NXT voted for the bill, no doubt some deal has been done.Given NXT voted for the bill, no doubt some deal has been done.
5.38am BST5.38am BST
05:3805:38
Morrison also refuses to say – following Xenophon’s rejection of the one month wait for the dole for young people – whether the government will take the savings out of the budget.Morrison also refuses to say – following Xenophon’s rejection of the one month wait for the dole for young people – whether the government will take the savings out of the budget.
There will be a point at which those decisions will be taken.There will be a point at which those decisions will be taken.
He says if the savings are not found with this cut, other cuts will need to be made.He says if the savings are not found with this cut, other cuts will need to be made.
UpdatedUpdated
at 6.17am BSTat 6.17am BST
5.36am BST5.36am BST
05:3605:36
Scott Morrison is speaking to David Speers on Sky. Nick Xenophon has indicated he will not support tax cuts for companies with turnovers above $10m. You may remember in this year’s budget the government’s enterprise tax plans cut company tax for big businesses as part of a 10-year plan.Scott Morrison is speaking to David Speers on Sky. Nick Xenophon has indicated he will not support tax cuts for companies with turnovers above $10m. You may remember in this year’s budget the government’s enterprise tax plans cut company tax for big businesses as part of a 10-year plan.
Morrison does not say whether the government will break up elements of the package to get the tax cuts through for those businesses under $10m.Morrison does not say whether the government will break up elements of the package to get the tax cuts through for those businesses under $10m.
UpdatedUpdated
at 6.16am BSTat 6.16am BST
5.31am BST5.31am BST
05:3105:31
5.29am BST5.29am BST
05:2905:29