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| 'I did no deal with Leyonhjelm on guns,' says Tony Abbott | |
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| We are running down the hill into question time. 3, 2, 1.... | |
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| Abbott: I did no deal with Leyonhjelm on guns, it was internal | |
| Katharine Murphy | |
| Tony Abbott’s been busy of late. Yesterday he entered the guns debate via social media. Then, later in the afternoon yesterday, we had a chat about gun control, which I wrote up last night, and Gabi has already linked you too. | |
| This evening he will appear on the ABC 730 program. Today he’s been stopped by journalists in the corridor. | |
| The theme is once again guns. | |
| The former prime minister has told reporters what he told me last night: he did not do a deal with David Leyonhjelm to put a sunset clause on an import ban of the Adler shotgun. Abbott said to me late yesterday the sunset clause was imposed because of internal pushback within the government - meaning of course, the Nationals – which we’ve seen play out over the course of today. | |
| He’s repeated a phrase he said to me last night – there was no way on God’s earth his government was going to allow “perhaps tens of thousands of rapid fire weapons into the country.” | |
| Tony Abbott: | |
| One of the reasons we have avoided a mass casualty terrorist event in this country is because it is very hard to get guns. It’s particularly hard to get guns that can do a lot of damage very quickly. If you allow rapid fire guns into the country under relatively loose conditions you obviously raise the danger. | |
| Asked whether Malcolm Turnbull should rule out allowing the gun to be imported, Abbott said: | |
| The federal government should do whatever it needs to do to ensure rapid fire guns are not readily available in this country. No-one needs a rapid fire gun other than perhaps our law enforcement agencies, the military, and just possibly people involved in serious pest extermination, but this idea that shooters generally should have access to rapid fire weapons is just crackers, and it should never happen as far as I am concerned. | |
| Abbott said farmers already have access to weapons allowing them to control feral animals. | |
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| Labor peanut gallery. | |
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| New best friends. On registered orgs. | |
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| Lunch time politics | |
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| Labor: Kate Ellis urges radical childcare system overhaul | Labor: Kate Ellis urges radical childcare system overhaul |
| Paul Karp | Paul Karp |
| Labor’s early education spokeswoman, Kate Ellis, is speaking at the National Press Club. | Labor’s early education spokeswoman, Kate Ellis, is speaking at the National Press Club. |
| She has suggested the government should consider abandoning the current childcare subsidy system in favour of alternatives including universal childcare or the government directly purchasing places. | She has suggested the government should consider abandoning the current childcare subsidy system in favour of alternatives including universal childcare or the government directly purchasing places. |
| Ellis said the problem with the current “fee and subsidy system” is the government has no “levers of control” over the costs and availability of places. | Ellis said the problem with the current “fee and subsidy system” is the government has no “levers of control” over the costs and availability of places. |
| If the government directly purchased places, it would see how many places are required in a particular area and tender for their delivery. | If the government directly purchased places, it would see how many places are required in a particular area and tender for their delivery. |
| Done correctly this could place downward pressure on costs by introducing competitive tendering for the service delivery and could cap the out-of-pocket costs of parents. This would incentivise new childcare places being created where they are required. | Done correctly this could place downward pressure on costs by introducing competitive tendering for the service delivery and could cap the out-of-pocket costs of parents. This would incentivise new childcare places being created where they are required. |
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| Bowers calls this “a touch of the Quirrells”. | Bowers calls this “a touch of the Quirrells”. |
| Naughty Bowers. | Naughty Bowers. |
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| I am a bad blogger for not posting this earlier. | I am a bad blogger for not posting this earlier. |
| This was Peta Credlin on the Adler: | This was Peta Credlin on the Adler: |
| Peta Credlin says there was no deal to allow Adler gun's into Australia between @TonyAbbottMHR and @DavidLeyonhjelm https://t.co/vO3NawO3xU | Peta Credlin says there was no deal to allow Adler gun's into Australia between @TonyAbbottMHR and @DavidLeyonhjelm https://t.co/vO3NawO3xU |
| This was senator Leyonhjelm’s response. | This was senator Leyonhjelm’s response. |
| Conflating licensed firearms owners with terrorists. When you don't know what you are talking about, you should STFU. https://t.co/Z4JXo8HtnG | Conflating licensed firearms owners with terrorists. When you don't know what you are talking about, you should STFU. https://t.co/Z4JXo8HtnG |
| If you don’t know what STFU is, google it. | If you don’t know what STFU is, google it. |
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| NSW government trolls education minister Birmingham | NSW government trolls education minister Birmingham |
| As we know, the commonwealth and the states are in the process of trying to agree to the years five and six of the school funding agreements. Birmingham flagged before the election he would not honour Labor’s agreements because more money does not equal results, in the Coalition mind. The states went ballistic, as expected. This is an ongoing battle. But here is the latest release from their NSW counterparts, which suggests more money does equal results if it is used in the right places. | As we know, the commonwealth and the states are in the process of trying to agree to the years five and six of the school funding agreements. Birmingham flagged before the election he would not honour Labor’s agreements because more money does not equal results, in the Coalition mind. The states went ballistic, as expected. This is an ongoing battle. But here is the latest release from their NSW counterparts, which suggests more money does equal results if it is used in the right places. |
| NSW public schools will receive a record $219 million in additional needs-based education funding in 2017, made possible by NSW signing the Gonski agreement. | NSW public schools will receive a record $219 million in additional needs-based education funding in 2017, made possible by NSW signing the Gonski agreement. |
| Announcing the funding boost at Hurstville South Public school, NSW Premier Mike Baird said needs-based funding helps schools and students facing the greatest challenge to lift their results. | Announcing the funding boost at Hurstville South Public school, NSW Premier Mike Baird said needs-based funding helps schools and students facing the greatest challenge to lift their results. |
| “There is absolutely no doubt that needs-based funding, made possible by Gonski, has been of enormous benefit to students right across NSW,” Mr Baird said. | “There is absolutely no doubt that needs-based funding, made possible by Gonski, has been of enormous benefit to students right across NSW,” Mr Baird said. |
| “That is why NSW signed the six-year agreement and why we continue to press the commonwealth government to honour its commitments. | “That is why NSW signed the six-year agreement and why we continue to press the commonwealth government to honour its commitments. |
| “The extra support students are receiving is showing real results. Funding now follows students and their needs and principals have the flexibility to make local decisions based on the specific needs of their students.” | “The extra support students are receiving is showing real results. Funding now follows students and their needs and principals have the flexibility to make local decisions based on the specific needs of their students.” |
| Minister for education Adrian Piccoli said Hurstville South Public school has used its additional needs-based funding to employ additional staff to provide targeted teaching for students who need extra support in literacy and numeracy. | Minister for education Adrian Piccoli said Hurstville South Public school has used its additional needs-based funding to employ additional staff to provide targeted teaching for students who need extra support in literacy and numeracy. |
| “At Hurstville South in 2016, 58% of Year 5 students were achieving results that put them in the top two bands of Naplan for reading and numeracy combined, up from 39% in 2012,” Mr Piccoli said. | “At Hurstville South in 2016, 58% of Year 5 students were achieving results that put them in the top two bands of Naplan for reading and numeracy combined, up from 39% in 2012,” Mr Piccoli said. |
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| Foreign minister Julie Bishop has been speaking about the battle to retake Mosul and fears that foreign nationals will return to home countries. | Foreign minister Julie Bishop has been speaking about the battle to retake Mosul and fears that foreign nationals will return to home countries. |
| That’s why we’re working to closely with partners throughout Europe and, particularly, in our region, to detect those who have been fighting, who are experienced terrorist fighters, and ensure that they cannot carry out a terrorist attack in Europe or, indeed, in our region. And, more particularly, here in Australia. | That’s why we’re working to closely with partners throughout Europe and, particularly, in our region, to detect those who have been fighting, who are experienced terrorist fighters, and ensure that they cannot carry out a terrorist attack in Europe or, indeed, in our region. And, more particularly, here in Australia. |
| She was at a Smart Traveller event this morning. | She was at a Smart Traveller event this morning. |
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| NSW premier Mike Baird has weighed into the gun debate following his deputy, Troy Grant. | NSW premier Mike Baird has weighed into the gun debate following his deputy, Troy Grant. |
| I think the prime minister made it very clear yesterday, there can be no dilution of the Howard gun laws and we totally and utterly support that. There are other issues that state ministers are considering. We’ll obviously play a constructive role in that but the principle of diluting the Howard gun laws, that is something that will not change and the prime minister made that clear yesterday. NSW, as always, is happy to play a constructive role, but on those sort of matters guided by experts and obviously consensus, any sort of changes would require consensus of all states. | I think the prime minister made it very clear yesterday, there can be no dilution of the Howard gun laws and we totally and utterly support that. There are other issues that state ministers are considering. We’ll obviously play a constructive role in that but the principle of diluting the Howard gun laws, that is something that will not change and the prime minister made that clear yesterday. NSW, as always, is happy to play a constructive role, but on those sort of matters guided by experts and obviously consensus, any sort of changes would require consensus of all states. |
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| Malcolm Turnbull has written to Bill Shorten asking him to back a bill which would impose mandatory jail terms on anyone caught trafficking in firearms. | Malcolm Turnbull has written to Bill Shorten asking him to back a bill which would impose mandatory jail terms on anyone caught trafficking in firearms. |
| Obviously this is pushback on the gun-law debate to pressure Labor, which has already blocked the bill twice before. | Obviously this is pushback on the gun-law debate to pressure Labor, which has already blocked the bill twice before. |
| The bill would mean those found guilty of trafficking illegal firearms would receive a mandatory minimum sentence of five years’ imprisonment with jail terms up to 20 years – double the existing maximum. | The bill would mean those found guilty of trafficking illegal firearms would receive a mandatory minimum sentence of five years’ imprisonment with jail terms up to 20 years – double the existing maximum. |
| Labor has opposed the bill because they oppose mandatory sentencing. | Labor has opposed the bill because they oppose mandatory sentencing. |
| In the letter reported in the Oz, Turnbull wrote to Shorten: | In the letter reported in the Oz, Turnbull wrote to Shorten: |
| The legislation has again been introduced to the parliament and I seek your support in ensuring its smooth passage. I urge you to reconsider your opposition to legislation for tougher gun penalties for gun smugglers. | The legislation has again been introduced to the parliament and I seek your support in ensuring its smooth passage. I urge you to reconsider your opposition to legislation for tougher gun penalties for gun smugglers. |
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| Hot socks DPM. | Hot socks DPM. |
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| Just another day in paradise. | Just another day in paradise. |
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| Now the foreign affairs and defence committee is on to defence force uniforms. | Now the foreign affairs and defence committee is on to defence force uniforms. |
| Major General David Coghlan says the uniform he is wearing is made in China. But the slouch hat and the combat uniform is made in Australia. | Major General David Coghlan says the uniform he is wearing is made in China. But the slouch hat and the combat uniform is made in Australia. |
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| In the foreign affairs estimates committee, Labor’s Kim Carr is pressing the secretary of defence Dennis Richardson and defence minister Marise Payne who is the senior minister between Payne and defence industry minister Christopher Pyne. | In the foreign affairs estimates committee, Labor’s Kim Carr is pressing the secretary of defence Dennis Richardson and defence minister Marise Payne who is the senior minister between Payne and defence industry minister Christopher Pyne. |
| Payne refused, even though Pyne is listed as higher in terms of cabinet. Payne then insists they are of equal rank. | Payne refused, even though Pyne is listed as higher in terms of cabinet. Payne then insists they are of equal rank. |
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| He did appear happier when leaving the chamber. | He did appear happier when leaving the chamber. |
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